Brouwerij De Dochter van de Korenaar

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Belgian Strong Dark Ale
Ranked #15
Ranked #2,126
4.21 | pDev: 9.74%
Brouwerij De Dochter van de Korenaar
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Photo of josanguapo
3.79/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

En caliz La Trappe. Viendo Black Summer 1x01-02. 16 meses pasada. Notas ahumadas le dan cierta originalidad, pero echo en falta mayor intensidad en el perfil de frutas oscuras que esperaba

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Photo of lmaduells
4.29/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

did not know about beer or beer. I am surprised by the quality of the product. It is always nice to find a good beer produced with a good job. Live the good Belgian beer!

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Photo of jmdrpi
4.64/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

330 ml bottle, poured into the proper stemmed glass from the brewery.

very dark brown, thick cream colored head. wonderful aroma of dark caramel and a touch of plum, black cherry, raisin. similarly complex malt flavor but not too sweet. great mouthfeel, medium bodied but smooth drinking.

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Photo of REVZEB
4.04/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Drier and highly carbonated for the style. Has rich typical toffee, dark fruits, booze and yeast, yet it also incorporates some wood, herbs and honey. Smell is more sweet than taste. Certainly different flavors complexion but nicely done together.

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Photo of Choppr
4.55/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Raisins, toasted malt and a little smoke on the nose. Looks like black tea steeped a little long and very little, if any, lacing but that may be my glass. Good bit of toasted malt some dark fruit some smoke... Lots of layered flavors that are well balanced. I love this.

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Photo of mmilyko
3.5/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Love BSDAs,and was looking forward to this rare opportunity, however something in the finish was unexpected and not particularly style specific for me. Reading some other BA reviews nailed it for me....smokey. Credit to the brew master for trying something unique, but not what I'm looking forward to in a Belgian Strong. Points for uniqueness and creativity, but ultimately slightly disappointing.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.77/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2014 edition, not surviving the years as well as i hoped this would, but still a treat to drink a beer from this hard to find belgian operation. the beer is a pale reddish brown color, lively head, and some lacing as it drinks. it doesnt look as heavy or thick as a lot of barleywine types, and one sniff suggests a weird style hybrid here before me. there are the belgian dark sugar elements here, the added gravity spike non grain sugars happening, at least to my nose, not as heavy malty as some, but still rich and mature and complex. the yeast has an english breadiness to it, is very hearty, but also brings just a little bit of warmer fermented belgian fruitiness, which is predictably lovely with the caramelized malts in here. i get some dried apple, toffee, and more hops than i expected, a weird bitterness arises in the finish in what seems to be a shallow attempt to balance the sugars, but its not to be, and the bitterness seems out of place to me. there is also a darker malt element at work, a roasted sort, adding a lot of depth to this, molasses and raisin notes in there with it. a neat beer, different than what i was expecting, and a cool belgian and english sort of fusion between strong dark and barleywine. i would have like to try this fresh, as it seems to be coming apart just a bit at this point three years on...

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Photo of Holderness
3.44/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Very overpriced for what it is. Smoke, compost, raspberry, oak, toffee, belgian yeast funk, earth. Pretty decent pour and head retention. Friend described it as a poopy campfire, and I entirely agree. It's not terrible (it's actually pretty complex, in an unexpected way), just overpriced. Might have spent too long in the bottle... seems like it's from 2015.


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Photo of Bruno74200
3.94/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was expecting more from this one. It tastes lighter than it looks. Lots of honey, some estery presence and a bit of chocolate. Light in tastes but it's balanced

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Photo of Squidretired
4.85/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

The version of this ale that I had was the peated oak aged version. If you like Scotch you will enjoy this ale. The nose is a very strong peat. The taste is smooth and again has a peat flavor. The feel on the palate is smooth and warming. Pours dark with a nice head which thins somewhat quickly. There are hints of wine and fruit.

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Photo of Dzu
4.31/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from bottle.
L: pitch black with a weak foam head.
S: wine notes , plums, raisin.
T: again wine , caramel, rich and complex.
F: full body and carbonation.
O: very good Belgian.

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Photo of polloenfuego
4.16/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark molasses black with a thin root beer head. The smell is one that I found unique for a BSDA. It had the typical elements of dark fruit and molasses, but there was a peaty and woody smell to it as well. The taste followed the nose and more. The dark fruits are more pronounced and the peat is a great compliment. Treacle and a bit of caramel were also present. The feel was full bodied with a nice carbonation, and there was a tail of a slight bitterness.

Damn nice beer, I really enjoyed the peat elements which I think separate this beer from many Belgian BSDAs.

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Photo of cjgiant
4.21/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

On tap:
Pours a very dark brown, maybe a slight rusty hue. As the beer goes down, I notice a deep burgundy side of it (as well as its relative clarity). By the very end, a lovely chestnut brew sat in my glass. Light beige head forms a thick foamy collar andvprovides spiderweb lacing.

Nose isn't too strong, but there is a toffee backbone and a bit of licorice. I also get a little peat in there.

Taste is an earthy backbone without any of the toffee sweetness I thought I might get. The wet peat is in there, but not heavily. I do get anise and maybe a little something like allspice. Root spices generically, with warmth I get a little date. Other things I notice is there is a hint of smokiness going on and even a little berry brightness in some sips.

There is a bitter ending I didn't notice in the first few sips - a piney wood like bitterness. A nice tickling carbonation on an above medium thick beer. Body is about the same level.

There was a lot to get to in the taste of this beer. The nose had some nuances, but wasn't quite as easily to detect them. I'm not sure if I wanted a little less bitter or dry, but I'm not going to think much about it. This is a beer to sip and savor each taste, take some time to explore this one.

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Photo of sjdevel
3.97/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Look: Deep and Dark Brown/Copper with a reddish hue. 1 finger head that dissipates but great lacing continues along with a good solid foam ring.
Smell: Sweet caramel malt, some dark ripe fruit, some spice, and charred wood.
Taste: Not what I expected at all. I was expecting a Gulden Draak style of a Belgian Dark. This one is stout-like. There's a nice hop bite upfront. Goes right into some dark fruit (plum, grape) and a tiny bit of malt sweetness. Tons of dark roasted grains throughout.
Feel: Full bodied like a stout. Stays interesting and effervescent.
Overall: Not as impressed with this one as I thought I would be (looking at the 100 score from the Bros). It is a really good beer, but just doens't hit the marks for the style as far as I can tell (but I'm no BJCP judge). I really didn't get any Belgian-ness - some spice maybe, but was looking for nice Belgian yeast tang.

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Photo of ajm5108
3.91/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a deep cola brown with light foamy head that settles into a fine lace. The aroma is all sorts of wonderful fruity esters dancing around with each other - lingonberry, blackberry, dashes of more traditional dark Belgian aromas like raisin & fig to provide depth. Tongue has more of those darker fruit notes, very classical with fig & Belgian yeast phenol with a touch of chocolate. Where it lost me at the bit was at the end, it is surprisingly dry and has a grassy hop twinge that is chalky & lightly bitter, which clashes with the rest of the beer. It doesn't ruin the beer by any stretch but it stops it from being a truly great beer.

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Photo of MoohMooh
4.1/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown, one finger head. Nice lacing. Smells funky, boozy, caramel, coffee, chocolate, biscuit, a touch of cinnammon. Taste is a bit bitter, with coffee and chocolate dominating. Some dark fruit as well, and alcohol but not so much for a 9% ABV. Body is medium with very little carbonation, smooth yet somewhat sticky.

It's really good, and yet I feel like there's something missing... That probably comes from the very, very high expectations I had after tasting some of their other stuff. In any case, the fact that I'm giving it a 4.1 while at the same time saying it's the weakest I've had from them certainly says something about this brewery's overall quality!

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Photo of Saviour
4.43/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L - deep dark brown with a small head;
S - notes of coffee, berries (especially strawberry) and tropical fruits;
T - first you taste strawberry juice, after that the coffee and chocolate comes. Quite surprisingly, actually;
F - nice bittersweet aftertaste like you are sucking the berries out of the chocolate;
O - really surprising and uncommon beer. Absolutely must try.

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Photo of Arthuros
4.74/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Delicious delicious delicious.

Dark Belgian ale but reminds me of a Stout / oatmeal Stout, a good blend of sorts.

Hints of berries (roasted), coffee, caramel.

A winner.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.22/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

In a beautiful display of both quality in brewing and maturity in age, De Dochter's Embrasse blends what's best about Belgian stronger, darker ale; English olde ale and perhaps barleywine. But hosting a breadth of complexity, the malt balanced ale remains supremely palatable, friendly and refined.

Deep honey in amber, the beer's dense foam stance eventually collapses and allows the beer to look more of port wine than of beer. But with the nose gracing the rim of the glass, a whole circus of malt ensues. Toffee, caramel, toasted poundcake, maple and honey all captivate the nose and the early palate.

But as the earthy components joining the weave, the middle opens with notions of ripe tobacco leaf, orange marmalade, grape jam and honey biscuit before the herbal hop balance begins to carry flavors of tea leaf and broad woodsy bark.

Full in body, but finishing surprisingly dry and effortless on the palate, the beer's creamy-sweet upstart concludes with an herbal fruitiness with peps of dry sherry wine, pepper and savory worcestershire sauce. No mistake about it- this is a beer that's chocked full of understated complexity that won't likely get the praise that it deserves.

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Photo of superspak
4.47/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

660 ml bottle into tulip glass, bottled in 12/2014. Pours slightly hazy dark reddish brown color with a 2-3 finger dense and fluffy khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice dense soapy lacing clings around the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big plum, fig, date, pear, apple, caramel, toffee, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, cocoa, pepper, light nuttiness, herbal, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Incredible aromas with awesome complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast and dark/bready malt flavors; with good strength. Taste of huge plum, fig, date, pear, apple, caramel, toffee, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, cocoa, pepper, light nuttiness, herbal, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Light-moderate yeast spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of plum, pear, apple, caramel, toffee, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, cocoa, pepper, light nuttiness, and yeast/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Incredible robustness and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast and dark/bready malt sweetness; with a fantastic yeast/malt balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very smooth, moderately creamy and lightly slick mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is amazingly well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is an absolutely incredible Belgian dark ale. All around fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of fruit/spicy yeast and dark/bready malt sweetness; and very smooth to sip on for the big ABV. An insanely amazing offering.

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Photo of cpetrone84
3.2/5  rDev -24%

Pour is dark brown with red edges and a tight tan head. Nose is big, dark fruits, dry fig, dark berries and dry bakers chocolate. Taste is even sweeter, tons of berry and dry fig, dry malt and hints of bitter chocolate. Full bodied and soft carbonation and a silk oily feel.

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Photo of Sludgeman
3.16/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Served in a small 4oz serving glass at Pizzaria Paradisio/Dupont Circle

Maybe I have this beer all wrong but my taste is not lining up with what I have read or what most others consider a supposedly great beer. Not catching the cinnamon that the brewer tells me is there. 3

A - Dark amber almost opaque but not cloudy. 4

S - A smokey nose, dark fruits. 3

T - Definite smokey flavor, slightly sweet, a little spicy, very little alcohol evident. Tasting the Belgian yeast which sort of puts a lactic twist on the smoke. 3

MF - Well carbonated but smooth. 4

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Photo of smcolw
4.11/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Deep, dark brown--on the pale side of a stout. Light passes only on the very edge of the glass. Good starting head that leaves a combination of webs and spots for lace.

Dry nose with a nearly bakers chocolate aroma. I'm reminded of brownie dough.

Strong alcohol warmth to a complex flavor. There's the dark chocolate but there's also sweet cherry flavor. Although it tastes chewy, the body is really neutral. The carbonation is similarly middle of the road. The swallow lasts as a continuation of these flavors.

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Photo of dcmchew
4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Very fresh, bottled february 2014.
Pours dark brown with copper, 1 finger bubbly head, almost no retention, but a nice thin lace of foam sticks around (and on the glass) for a very long time.
A stoutish smell, with coffee, dark chocolate and roasted malts, with an extra smokey note. Dry wood also.
Weirdly, smoked grains (close to bacon) are the first to come up in the taste. Dark fruit character follows, with some zingy juiciness, but mostly with dry smoked plums, raisins, dry figs and faint sweet dry apricots. Rich roasted malts, multi-grain bread, rich coffee and cocoa powder. Belgian yeasts provide a nice spicy feel, lifting the stoutish earthiness. Hops manage to give voice in the finish, after the whole malt festival, green and mildly bitter.
Medium body, robust and rich malts balanced with a crisp and sharp yeastiness. Alcohol nowhere to be found.
Pretty unique. A kind of smoked Belgian stout so perfectly balanced that it should be considered a totally separate beer style.

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Photo of SLeffler27
4.14/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Embrasse is murky and very dark brown with red highlights (SRM 23-25). Effervescence pushes out of the bottle before pouring and builds a one-inch, creamy khaki head that lasts a long while. A nice curtain of lace forms above a slight viscous film in an Offero glass.

Deep roasted malt and molasses are up front with pumpernickel, dates, and fig against a constant backdrop of peat smoke. Some baker’s chocolate comes out late.

The flavors pick up what the nose originally detected. This is well-balanced between bitter and sweet. The character has layers of black coffee, while the molasses shines. Warmth brings out pumpernickel and Jewish rye. A long building finish adds to roasted bitterness.

The early explosive carbonation becomes well-controlled while warming alcohol is below expectation. A medium body and cotton texture.

This addition of Embrasse is excellent for contemplation on a sad day. The symbolism of its name adds to the experience. A strong gorgonzola or cured meat would pair well.

Bottle #21103 September 2012. I will enjoy this bottle while reminiscing about my Grandmother, Ruby, and contemplating her continuing journey.

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Embrasse from Brouwerij De Dochter van de Korenaar
Beer rating: 92 out of 100 with 232 ratings