Charbon
Brouwerij De Dochter van de Korenaar

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Style:
Stout - Sweet / Milk
Ranked #759
ABV:
7%
Score:
86
Ranked #31,045
Avg:
3.76 | pDev: 12.23%
Reviews:
33
Ratings:
100
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Brouwerij De Dochter van de Korenaar
 
Belgium
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Rotating/Seasonal
Wants
  3
Gots
  14
SCORE
86
Very Good
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JonnoWillsteed from England

3.4/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

L- Ultra-dark, one of the blackest beers I've seen, barely a photon gets through this when held to a halogen bulb. Pours with 3mm fine-bubble mid-tan head.
S- Wow, intense coffee. I imagine not much else can get passed that and I don't register the suggested vanilla aspect in this.
T- Very coffee indeed, pungent smoked/smokey coffee as drunk in the Middle-East, wouldn't surprise me if coffee has been added to this.
F- This would work better for me in winter than summer when the pungent flavour might be over-bearing. I'm glad that it is quite a dry (ie non sweet) beer
O- It's interesting to try but I'm not sure if I'd buy more as it is around the limit of serious intensity of flavour depth that I can enjoy. No really, I enjoy stouts/porters, heavy beers, many smoked beers, 'but this thing is INTENSE maaan'.
Ps. You really need to enjoy very strong coffee to enjoy this beer, it's that intense. 330ml bottle BB: May/2021
Bought from BeersOfEurope (UK).

Mar 19, 2020
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Brutaltruth from Ohio

3.87/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Form the 22 oz bottle in a snifter via Weiland's in Columbus from our
Columbus brew extravaganza. This nice brew pours a murky brownish
black with a nice head of pink tinged tan foam that subsides to a thick ring,
thin pooling layer, and shows subtle lacing in a snifter. Nose of light char and
smoke, subtle vanilla, and subtle coffee. Flavors ever so lightly exceed the nose
with a char, smoke, and leather laden brew mixed nicely with dark bakers
chocolate and mixed with dark coffee verging on espresso with touches of
dark fruit and a smoked background that lingers long. Vanilla is light
which is a plus making this one more smoke than heavy vanilla, Decent mouth
feel; medium full body, light carbonation, and a wet lightly dry finish.

Overall, a decent smoked ale from Belgium.

Cheers

Oct 18, 2018
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sjrider from California

3.69/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap- pours a dark cola color with thick beige head leaving significant lacing. Nose is mild espresso, roasty malt and vanilla. Taste follows with more vanilla, toasted grains and hints of leather and chocolate, all rather mild. Feels a bit thin.

Jun 04, 2018
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DJ-Hophead from England

4.18/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

330 ml bottle, Etre Gourmet - Pours dark brown with a medium tanned head. Nice lacing. Medium carbonation. Aroma - Vanilla front, roasted coffee, roasted malts. Taste - Sweet, lactose, vanilla, smoke, oaky notes, dark chocolate, dry,bitter finish. Good well balanced smoked vanilla stout.

Jan 04, 2018
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SpongeHop from Belgium

3.82/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

L - black, with a compactly bubbled finger of hazel head that dissipates slowly but steadily
S - roasted malts, a hint of smokiness. Espresso, rather than the cafe latte that I expected from it being a milk stout.
T - more complicated in the mouth than it smelled at first glance. Roasted grains and espresso, joined by a fair amount of milk chocolate, beautiful, pure vanilla and some tobacco
F - not thick or syrupy at all, and doesn’t have any alcohol sting or warmth.

O - definitely not a bad beer, but as I let it sit and come up to temperature the more the aromas seemed to fade to become somewhat watery even after re-swirling the glass.
DISCLAIMER: we were enjoying some Easter chocolate at the time, which may have overpowered my palate at the end (chocolate is not a bad pairing, I might add)

I do recommend this one.

Jun 06, 2017
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byronic from Canada

4.63/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Pours black as night with a nice dark tan head, good retention and minimal lacing. A bouquet of sweetness with chocolate and coffee really present. A really nice balance of roasted coffee, a touch of bitterness that is offset by notes of chocolate and vanilla which really comes forward as it warms. Often I find smoke is an unnecessary addition, however in this beer it shines. The mouthfeel is almost velvet, but just enough carbonation to keep it interesting.

This is a fantastic stout, one I'd love to have more of

Oct 14, 2016
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MoohMooh from France

4.68/5  rDev +24.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Pours jet black, with a three-finger tan creamy head that turns into a nice layer of foam, light lacing. It smells sweet; there's milk chocolate, some coffee and a touch of vanilla. The whole thing is a bit boozy but not overly so. Tastes very roasty and smokey, lots of coffee, some chocolate and vanilla; a bit spicy and slightly bitter. Body is light and a bit prickly.

Oh Charbon, where have you been all my life? This is absolutely terrific.

Sep 18, 2016
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emincems from Turkey

3.79/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

light-med bodied, slightly sweet stout. taste is roasted malt, dark chocolate and slight vanilla. Aftertaste is overly soft. Easy to drink for a stout.

May 25, 2016
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JackieKu from Taiwan

4.32/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

330ml bottle. Best before 2017-02.

A: Opaque dark brown. Poured 3 fingers high of head and fine retention.
S: Moderate roasted aroma. Tobacco. Dried longan.
T: Medium roasted flavor. Slightly smokey. Some citrus and longan. Dry. Medium bitterness. Long and coffee like finish.
M: Medium high body. Creamy.
O: Great and flavorful stout. Enjoyed its complex and pleasant flavors.

Feb 11, 2016
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Timothy_Scott_Goeft from Taiwan

4.18/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Has slight chocolate nose. Head lasts a brown color with a dark brown nearly black body, not opague, can taste smoked malts, subtle vanilla notes slight dry but bitte finish almost like a chocolate,. Medium body med low carbbonation.hides 7 ABV perfectly

Nov 27, 2015
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uvachief from Virginia

3.78/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle into a red plastic solo cup. Poured a dark mahogany deep chocolate brown with lots of head that lingered. Tons of lacing in the cup. Smells of roasted malts, toasted maybe, chocolate and mild coffee. Hint of cream and vanilla. Definitely milk stout. Tastes like a milk stout. Not sweet. Little vanilla. More char an smoke than i expected. Interesting. Right fullness. Not bitter. Better warmed up. Just not a ton of flavor or spice. Good effort. Not grand.

Sep 13, 2015
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qrazvan from Romania

3.08/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark colour, very little acid, similar to a standard stout beer. A light smoke flavour. The vanilla taste is very subtle. Especially for stout lovers.

Aug 09, 2015
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LiquidAmber from Washington

3.94/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours a very dark mahogany brown, appearing nearly opaque in the glass, with a fine two finger light brown head with great retention and lots of lacing. Aroma of dark toasted malt, light lactose, milk chocolate, mild coffee. Flavor of milky toasted malt with a hint of char, cocoa, light coffee and vanilla. Finish is toasted malt with light smokiness and a light grassy hop bitterness. Medium bodied with light creaminess. A nice, moderately flavored milk stout with some earthiness and smoke that doesn't develop completely until the finish. This gives it a good flavor progression from sweet lactose maltiness into a deeper, smokier, charred finish. The smoke and char are reserved, but add good character. An enjoyable milk stout.

Jul 11, 2015
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mdagnew from Northern Ireland

4.18/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

660ml bottle bought from The Vineyard, Belfast

Poured completely black even when held up to the light. Mocha head poured tight, thick and foamy then faded slowly to nice thickish covering... some light sticky lines of lacing around the glass...

Aroma - Nice roasted malts, milk chocolate mixed with vanilla, mocha coffee, nice smokey notes, treacle / burnt sugar sweetness, leathery, toasted nuts, faint liquorice, some pepperiness...

Taste - Sweet milk chocolate maltiness, toasted bread, nice charred smokey notes, some creamy / milky traces, vanilla, woody, light treacle notes, some grassy / peppery traces, some oatiness, sweet nutty notes...

Feel - Pretty smooth and creamy... medium / full bodied... very drinkable even at 7% as the alcohol is very well hidden

Overall - A really really good smoked stout which has the perfect balance of chocolate malts, smoke and vanilla... not sure why this only averages around 3.6 ?! Definitely recommended...

Jul 06, 2015
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superspak from Michigan

3.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22.7 ounce bottle into snifter, best before 6/2016. Pours nearly opaque dark brown color with a 2 finger fairly dense light tan head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings around the glass, with a good amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, wood smoke, toast, dark bread, vanilla, light char, plum, berry, light pepper, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Nice and pleasant aromas with good complexity and balance of roast/smoked malt, vanilla, and light-moderate yeast ester notes; with solid strength. Taste of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, wood smoke, toast, dark bread, vanilla, light char, plum, berry, light pepper, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Fair amount of roasted bitterness and yeast spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, wood smoke, toast, dark bread, vanilla, light char, plum, berry, light pepper, and yeast/roasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice complexity, robustness, and balance of roasted/smoked malt, vanilla, and light-moderate yeast ester flavors; with a great roasted bitterness/sweetness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a very smooth, creamy, and lightly chalky/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is a very nice Belgian influenced smoked stout style. All around good robustness, balance, and complexity roast/smoked malt, vanilla, and light-moderate yeast ester flavors; and very smooth to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

Mar 29, 2015
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TheBrewo from New York

3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew is poured from a bomber into three-quarter sized tasting snifters. It pours out a thin soy sauce color and consistency, and holds a two finger head of medium taupe colored foam. This descends at a medium pace, leaving spotty cords of lacing in its wake. No haze or sediment is noted, and carbonation appears to be moderate. The aroma gives fiery smokiness, soured lactic milkiness, dried tobacco leafiness, tart cherry skin, charred barley and roasted black malts, heavy lye soapiness, deeply metallic vanilla extract, biscuity butters, fermented soy, and tamari. Flavors include that same drying, fiery smoke and char, old oak and brass, raw espresso beans, plastic wrap, dense and frothy soapiness wafting curiously off of the vanilla inclusions, metallic and mineral-heavy clay, soured white vinegar acidity, lactic milkiness, chalked cherry fruitiness, candied cashews, bittering cacao powder, dingy coconut husk, heavily roasted coffee and chocolate malts, graphite, sulfur, and white sugar. The body is thinner, and carbonation nears extreme. The latter comes especially hard on the swirl around the mouth, as it foams into waves across the palate. Slurp and smack remain intact, with wet finishing pop. The mouth is left chalky and tightly astringent. The abv is appropriate, and the beer drinks at a reasonable pace.

Overall, we’ve finally made it back to Connecticut on a trip of leisure to visit friends and family, and decided to raid the cellar. We’ve been meaning to clean out a bunch of boxes, and this was the first one we reached for. It has been a cold, precipitation-heavy winter thus far in the northeast, so we were obviously looking for something dark and warming. To this goal we were not entirely disappointed. You get a ton of roast and smoke (appropriate for a beer named “coal”), but little in the way of vanilla, or any real balancing sweetness for that matter. The age on the beer seems to have killed the vanilla, turning it bitter, plastic, and harshly soapy. Aside from this, the carbonation is over the top, and the body is thin. Ultimately, not wonderful, but not a disaster either. Worth checking out if you’re in the mood and nothing otherwise dark would satisfy you. Just keep in mind it isn’t as sweet as many others in the style.

Feb 10, 2015
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safaricook from Netherlands

3.92/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

l: clear dark brown body, little fine carbonation, brown voluminous head

s: coffee, toffee, little smoke

t: malt, sweet, coffee, balancing clean bitterness

f: medium to thin body, little fine tickling

o: nice Stout that brings a little extra complexity

Jan 24, 2015
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dcmchew from Romania

4.21/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours black, with a big fluffy tan head, that visibly decreases to a thin lace and leaves some traces on the glass.
Smells mostly of smoked dark malts, burnt bread crust, dark chocolate and coffee bean. Vanilla is pretty hard to detect, a bit more obvious (still faint tho) later on.
Taste is pretty complex, starting with a bit sour red dark fruit (blackcurrants), coffee acidity and a lactic sourness. Roasted malts follow, with dark chocolate, cocoa powder, ground coffee, and a hint of smoke that anticipates the finish. This is where the smokiness shines: ash, earthiness, dry coffee sediment, smoked wood. The astringency from the start lasts, but gets way in the back and it's barely felt in the finish. Vanilla brings a bit of sweetness also, but it's hard to get it at first, revealing itself just when the beer warms, but still faint (gets more chocolatey and sweeter tho).
Smooth body, medium carbonation, dry finish and the aftertaste isn't too rough, but flavorful. Not a smoke bomb either, just a pleasant amount that enriches the malts.
A tasty smoked stout, with a minimum of the advertised vanilla, but solid enough as it is.

May 25, 2014
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Absumaster from Netherlands

3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A vanilla smoked stout. The beer pours a black color with a settling head. The foam leaves a small layer of foam on the side of the glass.

The smell is mainly roasted with notes of black malt. The vanilla is more pronounced as the beer warms. The smoke is light and only adds a smokey smell.

The taste is quite roasted, a typical black malt taste. The bitterness is clean and adds a nice balance to the roast. The vanilla is not very apparent.

Nov 15, 2013
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SteveTheDog from California

3.64/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Nice smooth pour, less head than expected. Subtle aroma - I was expecting more of a vanilla extract strength but not the case. The taste was full of smokiness and vanilla but didnt taste like dessert. It had a great non-syrupy finish which is unique for a dessert beer. I really liked this one. I think I'll have another!

Aug 01, 2013
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StJamesGate from New York

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big puffy tan head over chocolate black with ruby highlights.
Smoke, cocoa nibs, peat, cranberry and meat juice on the nose - complex.
Char, blackberry, slight peat, slight iodine, and gentle roasty bite.
Full, chewy, silky.

Smooth and round. Good body, not overly sweet, and not the usual chocolate-coffee stout dichotomy. Smoke did kinda kill the vanilla, though.

Still, best of this brewery.

Jun 15, 2013
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ATLbeerDog from Georgia

4.18/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Best before June 2014

Pours an opaque dark brown almost Coca-Cola color but darker in the glass. A one finger frothy tan head tops the beer and slowly recedes leaving heavy lacing. Sweet malty smells are slightly over powered by smoke and a splash of vanilla. First sip is more smoky than vanilla but pretty darn balanced. The body like most De Dochter’s is very thin but it is perfectly carbonated and quite tasty so I can live with the thin body. A very tasty yummy beer indeed.

May 07, 2013
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CwrwAmByth from England

3.79/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 660ml bottle into a straight pint glass and topped up.

Pours a dark brown, verging on black colour, with an off-white head.

Smells sweet, roasted and malty, with a hint of vanilla.

Tastes of roasted malts - quite sweet and dry on the finish, with a slight hint of vanilla lingering in the background.

Overall quite a nice stout, simple and easy going without being too plain and 'balanced'.

Mar 21, 2013
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TMoney2591 from Illinois

3.68/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Served in a Lagunitas mason jar.

Smoky and sweet, both in a stout. I'm prepping my knee for a potential proposal if this first date works out as well in reality as it does in my expectations. This stuff pours a murkily deep black-brown topped by a couple fingers of sandy khaki foam. The nose comprises roasted malts, beech smoke, dark molasses, cocoa powder, and a hint of vanilla bean in the background. The taste emphasizes the smoke, which seems to drown out the sweeter portions, but melds with the roasty ones. Some dark chocolate powder still pokes through, but the vanilla is utterly demolished. An unfortunate result of this smoke focus is a sharp phenolic bitterness that pervades the finish and lingers into the aftertaste. It's not enough to completely ruin the tasting experience, but it does sound a sour note. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a drying finish. Overall, though I'm not immediately putting a ring on this beer, I will say that our relationship is generally a good one. I wish the smoke and sweetness could exist more genially, but at least, as it stands, the two aren't exactly actively battling it out on the tongue. Instead, the smoke just cuckolds the rest. Again, it's not optimally pleasant, but it really isn't all that bad, either.

Jan 28, 2013
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BlackHaddock from England

3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

66cl Bottle: shared with the wife and Doug (an American chap from near Boston) on 20 Oct 2012 @ The Diester Bierfestival.

Dark brown body with a lightly tanned, creamy head of foam.

The nose and taste were of dark chocolate and burnt coffee beans, couldn't find any vanilla, the burnt esters overshaddowed anything that wasn't equally as powerful and nothing else was!

Rich enough but a little drier than I thought a 'Vanilla Stout' should be: enjoyed it, but moved on fairly quickly and the beer was easily forgotten, my notes being my only sour of information. I usually have some thoughts about a beer to add when I transfer from book to web-page, sadly I don't really remember much about this at all (and I wasn't bladdered either).

Nov 20, 2012
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Beer rating: 86 out of 100 with 100 ratings