Wineification II
The Bruery

Wineification IIWineification II
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Style:
Stout - American Imperial
ABV:
13.7%
Score:
95
Avg:
4.32 | pDev: 10.19%
Reviews:
20
Ratings:
164
From:
The Bruery
 
California, United States
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
Wants
  60
Gots
  30
SCORE
95
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Wineification IIWineification II
Notes: In this second rendition of Wineification, the Rues and Parkers continue to vanquish the boundaries between wine and beer. Again they have combined their brains and brawn on a blend of juicy Rodney's Vineyard Petite Sirah grapes with The Bruery's imperial stout, then aged this wine/beer hybrid in French Oak barrels. The flavor profile is remarkable. Notes of black cherry, vanilla, cinnamon, oak, aged balsamic, port wine and a sherry-like oxidation from the barrels. This beer is like nothing that you have ever tried before...besides, perhaps, Wineification I.
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superspak from Michigan

4.37/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into snifter, bottled on 9/11/2014. Pours opaque ruby red/purple/black color with a small fairly foamy and fluffy pink head with poor retention, that reduces to nothing pretty quickly. Minimal lacing on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of huge tart/tangy red grape/wine, blackberry, black currant, fruit skin/seed, cherry, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, apricot, chocolate, cocoa, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted oak, and dark bread; with lighter notes of vanilla, molasses, licorice, coffee, smoke, leather, tobacco, herbal, grass, peppercorn, and yeast/oak/toasted earthiness. Amazing aromas with fantastic complexity and balance of dark grapes, dark/bready/light roasted malts, french oak, and fruity yeast notes; with huge strength. Taste of huge tart/tangy red grape/wine, blackberry, black currant, fruit skin/seed, cherry, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, apricot, chocolate, cocoa, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted oak, and dark bread; with lighter notes of vanilla, molasses, licorice, coffee, smoke, leather, tobacco, herbal, grass, peppercorn, and yeast/oak/toasted earthiness. Light grape tang/tartness; herbal, roasted bitterness; and grape/oak tannin spiciness on the finish. lingering notes of tart/tangy red grape/wine, blackberry, black currant, fruit skin/seed, cherry, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, apricot, chocolate, cocoa, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted oak, dark bread, molasses, licorice, coffee, smoke, leather, tobacco, herbal, grass, peppercorn, and yeast/oak/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Amazing complexity, robustness, and balance of dark grapes, dark/bready/light roasted malts, french oak, and fruity yeast flavors; with zero cloying flavors after the finish. Lightly increasing dryness from lingering bitter/tang/tartness, and spicy oak. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full body; with a very smooth, moderately creamy/bready/acidic/tannic, and lightly sticky/chalky balanced mouthfeel that is fantastic. Mild increasing warmth of 13.7%, with minimal lingering booze after the finish. Overall this is an amazing oak aged fruited imperial stout. All around amazing complexity, robustness, and balance of dark grapes, dark/bready/light roasted malts, french oak, and fruity yeast flavors; very smooth and dangerously easy to sip on for the huge ABV, with the mellowly acidic/tangy/tannic/drying finish. Fantastic soft feel for the ABV, and not overly tannic. Perfectly balanced between super juicy/jammy grapes, dark/bready malts, and French oak presence. Not a ton of roast, but the base beer is the same way. Tastes just like a 50/50 blend of Petite Sirah wine and Black Tuesday. A highly amazing experimental offering. This hit all expectations.

Sep 12, 2019
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colts9016 from Idaho

4.71/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

I had an opportunity to purchase this beer two years back. I decided to fork over the cash for this bottle. Today is Christmas it is fitting to try this beer with family. The beer is 50 degrees and served in a tulip glass. The pour on the beer produced a pinkish tan head that fizzled quickly. Pouring the beer into the glass, it looked like well use cutting oil for a pipe machine. The beer has this dark brown murkiness and is opaque.

The initial aromas of the beer are fruity and earthy with dark roasted malts. Next, I smell chocolate, raisins, anise, bready, oaky, vanilla, molasses, and toffee. Lastly, I detect yeast alcohol and citrus.

Oh wow, what flavors this beer has. I taste the Syrah grapes, jammy notes, fruity, and earthy/dirt. Next, I taste the stout anise, bready, oaky, vanilla, molasses, toffee, chocolate, raisins, dark roasted malts, and oranges.

The mouthfeel of the beer is thick and round.

The body of the beer is full, low-plus carbonation, and a full finish.

This beer is an incredible feat in the craft movement. The wine barrel and stout flavors are harmoniously like professional ballroom dancer winning competitions. I loved the flavors in the beer, but sad to see the head showing rather poor. This beer was worth the money spent, I want another to one to enjoy. I loved this beer.

Dec 26, 2018
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Sabtos from Ohio

3.74/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

I never thought I'd see a relatively clear, red tinged Black Tuesday, especially one with a bubbly pinkish-tan collar.

Smell is toasted yet milky oak with cedary, almost smoked, red wine.

Taste and body is exceptionally wine-like, gliding into a smooth, slick fluid. I know, look at the name--but I really wasn't expecting this, especially via the delivery method of Black Tuesday. I'm quite surprised by how sweet and juicy it has become. The grapes have a cabernet note that helps mellow out the intensity of BT while adding some seedy berries and dry tannins in the finish.

Overall, the stout is actually drowned out, and it's also less hot. It's a unique experience, but also sort of confusing.

Oct 15, 2018
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rudzud from Massachusetts

3.72/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Finally split with JLindros.

A - Poured into a standard tulip a nice ruby mud light head but really phenomenal legs.

S - Aromas of nice juicy Syrah grapes, light chocolate, old almost stale beer. Almost metallic and tinny. Super fruity and juicy grapes. Stale bread too

T - Taste is similar to the nose with light dark chocolate. Sticky sweet, little grape jelly, light wine notes. The grapes are tart and little sour. Fair amount of stale bread as well.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, little sweet and sticky. Finish is really flemmy.

O -Overall this was a rather solid black Tuesday treatment. Interesting wine notes but sadly sour.

Serving Type: bottle

Aug 11, 2018
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jlindros from Massachusetts

3.66/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Split with rudzud
Light fizzy head fades sticky, dark murky chestnut color

Nose sour grapes, red musty grapes that went sour but super juicy, weird acidity with like a cinnamon spice and light metallic thing, stale bread,

Taste tart but big juicy grapes, reddish sweet grapes and little candy sweet wine, little port wine, little chocolate cocoa, syrupy molasses, toffee butterscotch, oak and wine barrel notes, finish sticky sweet

Mouth is heavy bod sticky sweet, decent carb

Overall eh

Aug 11, 2018
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THANAT0PSIS from Wisconsin

4.64/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 5

The Bruery Wineification II

A: This wine-stout hybrid pours not unlike a deep red wine. It is not quite black like its base beer but rather it takes on a deep, purple hue, reminiscent of dusk after a day of storms has finally cleared away. The scant finger of head also showcases purple tinges, appearing the color of a blueberry muffin before disappearing quickly and completely. Lacing is spotty at best, but at 13.7% ABV, this is unsurprising. Alcohol legs are prominent. The lack of head and lacing is fitting for a wine hybrid. Still, it would be nice to have a little more head and lacing, even in a hefty, barrel-aged beer like this one. 4.5/5

A: it is difficult to determine which element of the beer is most prominent, as both Black Tuesday and he Syrah grapes (not to mention the wine barrel) are present in spades. They do not fight, however; it is more of an intimate discussion between two perfectly complimentary components. There are the classic BT notes of caramel, toffee, dark fruits, tobacco, molasses, smoke, and chocolate, of course. Seamlessly, the wine shows up with black currants, blackberries, cherry, leather, spice box, cedar, rich grape jelly, almond, and plenty of oak. It is subtle, intense, refined, and classy. The wine does end up winning our eventually, making this taste perhaps a little too much like wine and not enough like beer. Fantastic, sexy, and alluring. 4.75/5

T: If possible, the taste is shifted even more toward wine. Given a blind tasting, many would probably peg this as a wine alone, as the imperial stout characteristics are quite subdued. Slightly tart berries greet the tongue up front, raspberry and blackberry, with tobacco, currants, cherry, raisin, almond, and spicy oak all following up. Black Tuesday bleeds through with toffee sweetness, rich cigar smoke, caramel, plenty of dark fruits, and gives an impression of sweetness to the otherwise quite dry profile. Dark chocolate is also present, giving the overall impression of a chocolate-covered, candied black currant. Many drinkers will wonder where the beer is, but it is still wonderful overall. 4.5/5

M: Here again, it feels more like wine than beer. The carbonation is so low that it could be mistaken for typical wine acidity, and the body is medium light yet oily (though not in a bad way) and with a slight stickiness that lingers. Alcohol warmth is moderate but not oppressive. The finish is mostly dry and very pleasant, but it is a little thin and a little too wine-y 4.25/5

O: So here is where my personal bias for this sub-substyle will be perfectly clear: despite not giving it glowing remarks above (which were necessary since even as a wine-influenced stout, it should exhibit a little bit more stout character), I love this beer. Wine barrel-aged imperial stouts are one of my favorite things in beer, and this one toes (and even steps over) the line better than any before it (save MAYBE Goose Island Napa County Stout). This is totally worth seeking out of you are at all interested in wine, as it drinks much more like a very rich red than Black Tuesday. The most remarkable thing is how not cloying it is (in contrast with the base beer). Leave it to the Bruery to pull off a beer of this off the deep end. Pair with the refined, genre-bending masterpiece "California" by Mr. Bungle. 5/5

Nov 12, 2016
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cooch69 from Pennsylvania

4.64/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

I liked this option much better that the first one they made mainly because the grapes were redonk in this one. Super packed full of wine flavor. Very nice nose of fresh fruits, dry oak and chocolate.

Mar 13, 2016
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Rollzroyce21 from California

4.77/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

- 2014 vintage (aged one year)
- Poured into tasting snifter off tap at the Tasting Room (Placentia, CA) on 30-Dec-15

Very nice Petite Syrah grape notes, which happens to be my top 3 grape varietal. I'm a lover of fine red wines and Black Tuesday has a special place in my heart. This is a very enjoyable marriage between the two. The BT doesn't dominate, which makes this variation unique and preferable. Those that do not like wine will most likely not enjoy this.

Oct 30, 2015
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dar482 from New York

4.46/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

As advertised the beer is very much a wine. From it's ABV, it matches. It purely tastes of grape juicy and red wine poured into Black Tuesday. The sweetness of Black Tuesday, the oak, boisterous roast, and richness complements the grapes to follow with a result of a meaty and rich red wine and port.

Oct 02, 2015
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WorldWideStout from Pennsylvania

3.95/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Background info you need to know: I really like Black Tuesday and sours. I rarely drink wine. I did not have Wineification I. Most importantly, I have over-aged malt bombs on many an occasion, and am thus quite used to sipping stouts with vinous notes.

A: Very dark violet. Violet since it has a bit of blue in with the black and purple. A vigorous pour actually yielded a two-finger purplish head, though it soon subsided without leaving lacing.

S: Notes of sherry are most prominent. Also some caramel, and a few red fruit notes. It actually reminds me a bit of a tootsie roll pop.

T: Starts off just like a fruited sour; fairly tart and with some red fruits, maybe raspberries. In the middle the caramel comes in and combines nicely with the fruit, but I'm still not getting any real stout characteristics. At the end I finally get a bit of roast, as well as the sherry qualities, which I guess is vinous notes and some booze in this case.

M: Body is thinner than I expected. I think it's good for the flavors present, has some creaminess, some carbonation, and some heft.

O: It's a good beer. Not a great beer, but a tasty one. It really is quite similar to a slightly oxidized stout. I would say it's different in that there are no soy or cardboard notes, and I get some red fruit along with the grapes.

May 03, 2015
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Kramerbarthomer from Colorado

3.33/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Apparently my rating was an outlier and required a review, so here we go.

L: Pitch black, similar to all of the Bruery stouts
S: Odd to me, yes wine grapes are there, it just didn't sit well to begin with
T: Off, I'm not a huge BT fan to begin with, but the addition of wine grapes was odd and off putting
F: Thick, but not like the other BT variants
O: Underwhelmed, not a huge fan of this beer, and my opinion was shared by multiple people in my tasting group. Did not live up to the hype, at all

Mar 29, 2015
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largadeer from California

4.05/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This edition of Wineification feels a bit heavier on the wine side of things compared to the previous version. Tasty, but quite fruity and tannic with just a touch of Black Tuesday's characteristic chocolate caramel richness shining through. Could use more stout, but it's still a really interesting and enjoyable beverage.

Mar 15, 2015
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Alieniloquium from Florida

3.6/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Deep red body. Almost black. But you get the deep red edges and a lightly pink head.

Smell - Whoa. Red wine. Intense red wine. Like it's all red wine. Fruity red wine.

Taste - Again,it's all red wine. The flavor is of a heavier wine than the fruity red wine aroma. Some chocolate. Then it gets tart, which I don't think lends itself to the wine or chocolate flavor.

Mouthfeel - Heavy and boozy. Kinda sour. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Like Wineification I, it's a very interesting beer, but unlike the first, it doesn't seem to work as well.

Feb 17, 2015
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Original_Gravity from California

3.25/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Was super excited to have the opportunity to try this at Rare Barrel during SF beer week. However, the taste is much too much like wine, not beer. Would have liked to have tasted more Black Tuesday.

Feb 09, 2015
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ThickNStout from Georgia

4.26/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Dull lavender wax capped 750mL bottle acquired through the Bruery's Society. Bottled 9/11/14. Served in a Bruery snifter.

Pours near black with a finger and a half crown of violet hued sandy froth. The head fades to a cloudy surface haze and leaves almost no lace at all.

Aromas of red wine, chocolate, grapes, oak and faint cherry. Very wine-like but a little more barrel aged stout creeps through as it approaches room temperature.

Taste is dominated by red wine. Wine, grapes, chocolate, tannin, oak, leather, fruit skins, faint coffee, trace vanilla and a decent nip of booze. As it warms the red wine comes out more as well as more of the stout aspects like molasses and a hint of bourbon. A crazy blend that works much better than I'd anticipated.

Syrupy yet smooth, heavy feel with softly tingling carbonation. Red wine, dark chocolate, oaky tannins and fruit skins dance on the tongue for an interesting aftertaste.

Seemingly brewed to bridge the gap between beer and wine, Wineification II is a very different kind of beer. If you're looking for another Black Tuesday variant this will be dissapointing. But I was able to appreciate this as a wholly disparate experience. More fine work from The Bruery.

Jan 21, 2015
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Igotmypistola from California

4.8/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

I absolutely thought this beer was the bees knees. It's unlike any beer I've ever had. And to be honest, for some that is not a good thing. My wife hated it and she loves Black Tuesday. Me.. I couldn't stop loving this beast. Unreal. It's a red wine fusion stout, no doubt about it. Just everything that I love about red wine and stouts.

Jan 10, 2015
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GRG1313 from California

3.81/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

I love The Bruery - period. I probably have a prejudice towards it and I go out of my way to find the good. However, this time, there is simply more "simple wine character" than any beer character. I found no Black Tuesday tones whatsoever and much more of the simple red/purple grape tones of petite sirah. I need/want more "beer" in this beer. This is the first Bruery beer I've graded this harshly - I'm calling this one an exception to the rule of really finely produced beers from this great company.

Note EDIT to above: Went back to this one recently and changed scores. Doing much better than when first released.

Jan 06, 2015
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UCLABrewN84 from California

4.38/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mrbubbler for sharing this one at Retsinis' tasting.

Pours an opaque super dark reddish-purple with a foamy reddish-white head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of roasted malt, red wine, port wine, wood, and slight cocoa aromas. Taste is much the same with red wine, port wine, caramel, and cocoa flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of wood bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with tasty wine forward characteristics that definitely take precedence in this beer.

Serving type: bottle.

Dec 15, 2014
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ford0626 from Washington

2.5/5  rDev -42.1%

Either someone tricked us or this beer was horrible.
It tasted like someone literally poured half glass of bt and half glass of petite sirah into my glass. Im an RS member and love bruery beers...... not this one!

Dec 10, 2014
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SirElton from California

4.75/5  rDev +10%

On tap at the Bruery 10/10

I loved the first Wineification and I don't think I've had another beer quite like it. This is more of a comparison to last year's than a strict review of this year's. The wine used for the base of this beer has changed since last year from Late Harvest Syrah to Petite Syrah. With the late harvest being more Port-esque in quality, and from what I can tell either a higher ratio of wine to beer/longer time in wine barrels/maybe both, this version is, IMO, easier to drink but less complex than last year's. There is more carbonation up front, less BT flavor, and this ends up tasting similar to a very good chilled dolcetto-style slightly sparkling red wine. As it warms, it becomes more and more like the red wine at its base, to the point that once the beer got near room temperature I don't know if I would be able to distinguish it from a heavier red wine blend.

Again, there is not really anything out there that comes close to this beer in terms of the flavor profile. The play of the bourbon stout and the red wine is an inspired combo. I was the only one of the people I talked to who preferred last year's version to this year's, but I love port and anything that tastes like it. I will be very interested to see how this ages as I think the carbonation could calm down and the BT could come out a little more.

Oct 13, 2014
Wineification II from The Bruery
Beer rating: 95 out of 100 with 164 ratings