White Oak | The Bruery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
The Bruery
California, United States
thebruery.com

Style: Wheatwine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
White Oak is a blended beer-- 50% wheatwine aged in Bourbon barrels (we call it "White Oak Sap"), and 50% Mischief (our Golden Strong Ale). Vivid caramel, coconut and vanilla flavors blanketed in a crisp yet robust wheat ale, White Oak is an exercise of balance.

Added by OlieIPA on 07-12-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,310
Reviews:
303
Avg:
3.94
pDev:
11.68%
 
 
Wants:
107
Gots:
332
For Trade:
26
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1/5  rDev -74.6%

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1.75/5  rDev -55.6%

Photo of corby112
1.91/5  rDev -51.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Pours a very dark and hazy burnt orange color with golden yellowish orange hues when held to a light source and a frothy, pillowy two finger white foam head. Excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting cap that leaves chunks of soapy lacing behind.

Earthy aroma with a prominent honey presence as well as a very strong barrel character. Lots of ashy charred wood with a heavy dose of boozy bourbon and some subtle vanilla. Plenty of alcohol sweetness and earthy spice in the nose along with light fruit notes. Smells slightly damp and funky and just a weird combination of scents.

Medium bodied with very tight carbonation up front that is immediately countered by a blast of bourbon and burnt wood that overpower almost everything and lingers throughout into a very hot, burning finish. The barrel character is way too strong in this beer creating an overly hot, boozy, astringent mess. Lots of earthy oak and hot bourbon flavor with a decent bit of vanilla flavor that surprisingly doesn't mellow things out much at all. Underneath all of the heat there is a slightly creamy presence with hints of crisp light fruit and zesty, peppery spice. This beer is not very well balanced and is kind of an abrasive assault on the palate. It doesn't taste very good and is tough to choke down. It improves a bit as it warms but it is still a one dimensional failure.

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1.94/5  rDev -50.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Room-temperature (55 F in my place) bottle into a glass. Courtesy of Overlord. Many thanks, Mike.

A: Pours a murky golden-amber color with a short-lived finger of off-white fluffy head. It collapses into a thin film on the brew with a thick collar that deposits sheets of non-sticky bubbles during each swig. Not mindblowing for a BSPA, but decent.

S: Vanilla, cinnamon, honey, oak, wheat, caramel, toffee, mango, and a light ethanol scent. I can't find any bourbon.

T: Begins with yeast, vanilla, and cinnamon. Other spices (cardamom?) that I can't quite figure out. Mid-taste is honey, wheat, and more "traditional" malts of caramel and toffee. I also detect mango throughout, but it pops up at strange times. The finish reveals a light, peppery bourbon character with oak, but there is also a booze burn that pulls into the finish. Very strong-tasting. Unfortunately, the powerful and cloying combination of honey, vanilla, and booze in the aftertaste is pretty tough to swallow. Initially a 3, but after drain-pouring a lot of the beer I can't really give it anything higher than a 1.

M: This is sticky as hell. It clings to the mouth. A forced sipper no matter how you look at it. Unfortunately you do feel the 11% throughout, and it adds an unpleasant aftertaste to an already heavy beer. The style should be fluffier. A semi-dry finish.

D: Lots of strong tastes here. But it's very heavy on the palate, and the finish is challenging. I'm not sure barrel-aging was a good idea for this one. Also, I really should have split this with people. I was unable to finish the bottle and poured out about 40% of it. Gah. I hate throwing away expensive beer.

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Photo of MrFootstones
1.98/5  rDev -49.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 1.5

I was excited to open my painstakingly acquired White Oak (and Black Tuesday). I couldn't drink this one though. I split it with two BA's and luckily, they were able to polish off my bottle for me to avoid the alcohol abuse of a drain pour.

For me, a beer as delicate as this is just not appropriate for bourbon bbl aging. The poor beer was completely overwhelmed and it was just a boozy bourbon bomb. Both the smell and taste were overpowering sweet whisky. I had the same problem with Allagash Curieux before they toned it down (or maybe it was just more mellow on tap).

I feel bad giving a poor review to such a revered brewery but this one was unpalatable to me.

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2/5  rDev -49.2%

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2/5  rDev -49.2%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

From 750mL bottle to Portsmouth glass on 5/24/12
*From notes

-- Thanks for crackin' this one, Billiam --

A: Cloudy, murky Saison yellow. A good pour yields a white and loost 1.25 finger head that fades to a meager bubbly collar and no lacing. Meh.

S: Sage, mint, herbs. Not a lot of booze, yet this is lacking a significant amount of oomph. I mean why does a damn Wheatwine smell like an herb garden? Where's the bourbon? 50% is aged in bourbon barrels, yet I would've never known had the label not told me.

T: Wheat, booze, an imperial amount of clove and some overripe banana. There's a real Belgian quality to that just doesn't mesh well with the base beer. Again, no bourbon to speak of. Kind of a mess, to be honest.

M: What am I drinking? This feels like a bubbly summer session lager or Pale Wheat Ale. Where's the viscosity? Where's the body and complexity? This seems to be a running theme with the current batches of the Bruery's specialty suds: thin and underwhelming.

O: What a train wreck of a beer. This isn't anywhere close to good. It feels lazy and uninspired, and it disappoints in most every facet. Do your palate a favor and introduce Mr. White Oak to Ms. Drain, pronto.

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2/5  rDev -49.2%

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2/5  rDev -49.2%

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2/5  rDev -49.2%

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2/5  rDev -49.2%

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2.24/5  rDev -43.1%

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2.25/5  rDev -42.9%

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2.39/5  rDev -39.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

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2.46/5  rDev -37.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

750 ml brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a Guinness goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average; I'm usually very underwhelmed by beers from this brewery - with the exception of Black Tuesday, which I was quite fond of. I hope this isn't overpriced mediocrity like many of The Bruery's other beers.

Served refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a 3.5 finger head of slight soft cream, decent thickness, and very impressive retention considering the high ABV. Colour is a murky hazy dark yellow. Nontransparent. Non-opaque. It looks rather nice; I'm excited to try it. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Floral, with clean wheat presence, cream, very light vague coconut, and tropical fruit esters. Pleasant, clean, and generally inviting - though not unique or special. A mild strength aroma.

T: Wheat is definitely the base, with strange bourbon and wood notes. Some light floral fruit notes are backgrounded. Coconut is distinct and recognizable, but I don't know that it's a good addition to the flavour profile. No alcohol comes through - quite a feat. The balance is off. Lacks a clear focus or emphasis, as though the brewers combined a bunch of difficult processes without any real regard for the balance of the end product. The wheat is nice and well executed, but the coconut mixed with the bourbon really bothers me. Complex but not at all subtle. Far too sweet. I get some vanilla, but it's not like it is in dark beers; here vanilla is troublesome.

Their own description on the label hints at the problem; "esque" and "ish" and "like" are used, but there are no solid firm flavours. It's a hodge podge of would-be notes, and the result is less appealing than the label makes it sound. Vaguely evocative of malibu coconut rum mixed with poor bourbon.

Mf: Smooth, wet, and somewhat creamy. Too thin. Adequately carbonated. Complements the flavour generally.

Dr: To its credit, the ABV is well hidden. That's probably the best element of this beer. It's difficult to drink; coconut is quickly overwhelming and far too sweet - especially over the course of repeated sips. Far too expensive for its quality (a staple of The Bruery). Another disappointment from The Bruery. I may never know why people like their beers so much. I wouldn't get this again, and I'd caution friends from trying it as well. Wasn't there supposed to be oak in the taste?

See Koko Brown from Kona Brewing for a far better (and motivated) use of coconut in the brewing process.

D+

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%

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2.5/5  rDev -36.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of BeTheBall
2.61/5  rDev -33.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 750, very frothy head with golden color and dense carbonation. Smell was mostly of bourbon barrel, with some vanilla? Taset was heavy on the bourbob, not my favorite. Also sweet and fairly alcoholic. This should be served in 2 or 4 oz. size for me, as that's plenty. Not a refreshing or tasty beer. Mouthfeel was fine, but the taste missed for me.

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2.63/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Courtesy of the RS. 6-7 oz. of the bomber poured into a Cantillon flute on May 6th, 2012.

A - Semi-clear golden coloring with a huge 4-finger, white, creamy head. Decent retention and great lacing. Looks a bit like a hefty geuze.

S - Lots of sharp lemon peel and vinegar with light malt sweetness and vanilla. A touch of oak and wheat-bread yeast underneath. Much, much less barrel character than I expected.

T - Front palate wheat grass, citrus, and tart sweetness. Mid palate transitions into caramel, light vanilla, and finally some semblance of barrel notes. Rear end is a wierd mixture of sweet, sour, and malty bread that leads into the finish.

M - Light-medium body, moderate carbonation, a bit smooth, tart and lightly-dry finish.

D - Undoubtedly the strangest beer I've had from the Bruery yet. There are a lot of different elements within the aroma and taste, but I find them to clash rather the meld/blend. Ultimately that makes this pretty poor for drinkability, imo.

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