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Cuir | The Bruery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
The Bruery
California, United States
thebruery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Cuir is our third anniversary ale. It is the same recipe as Papier, but again created using the Solera method. Each year we will continue to blend old barrels of anniversary ale with a new batch of the same beer, adding an additional layer of complexity that will grow over time as we continue to age and blend with each anniversary, creating an older average age to the ale.

Added by Halcyondays on 05-07-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.73/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to dsgolovin for this brew.

750ml
Black Wax/Capped
2011 Vintage
Bottle No: 9335

Poured into goblet a very nice grapy color, very nice carbonation, with a HUGE two-finger foamy off-white head, and leaves a HUGE island of thick creamy sticky lacing in the middle of the glass. The nose is very nice malty, slightly yeast, with lots of cherries, plums, raisins, and figs. The taste is malty, sweet, with lots of dark fruits, very nice cherry note. Full/Medium Body, a slightly dry finish. ABV is hidden very well, definitely a sipper. One of the best Old Ales I've had to date, highly recommended. Thanks Dave!

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Photo of Domingo
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at the Bull & Bush of all places.
Arrived a deep brown with just a fine sheen of foam on the top. As I worked my way down, the sheen does hang onto the glass a bit, but this stuff is pretty slick.
The flavor profile on this one is massive. Liquor barrels, molasses, dried fruits, chocolate, coconut, and even a little bit of strawberry jam. The nose definitely screams boozy, and while there's no doubt it's strong stuff, it's not as hot as some other huge beers I've had lately. I'd say the strongest flavor I keep getting is molasses and maybe a brown sugar character. Styles be damned, but this is akin to an old ale/huge brown hybrid partially tossed into barrels.
Certainly not an everyday beer, but very enjoyable. Probably my favorite from the Bruery thus far, too.
I can see this being a substitute for brandy or cognac at the end of the night or with dessert.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.67/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

opaque except for just the smallest amount of reddish brown that peaked through on the sides when you held it up directly to the light, but still this was enormously big looking. Deep mahogany tones

deep caramel smell coming off of this, literally took me by surprise. Nice aroma of oak and alcohol mixing and swirling around with it now, really starting to pick up steam the warmer it got. So complex, with rich earthy tones running rampant through it. Warm oak infused notes of brandy like alcohol running over the tongue, so sweet and sugary. As you roll it around you start to notice there is a little bit of a bitter bite to this one. Way down deep under all of the malt, there was a subtle bitter hoppiness, very grainy and earthy, but it was there, and really pushed through on the finish. Long drawn out finish it was, soo complex, with every sip letting you discover more and more flavors. Deep dark fruit now coming through for me, really started to actually dominate the scene all together. Huge raisin and plum notes giving it that sweet but yet tart dark fruit flavor we all come to love. A spicy touch in the back perhaps, but here comes that little bit of bitterness to wrap it all up. Wow, this was amazing.

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Photo of Ryan011235
3.47/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into an Ommegang flute on 7/3/11

Thanks to Arbitrator for leaving the bottle in care of our tasting group.

Dense, rusty, copper brown. Fluffy, one finger cap of foam. Drops to a thin layer of bubbly foam, bunched up around the collar. Specs of sediment at the bottom.

Deep aromas of darker fruit tones - raisins, figs and a hint of prune. Leather and a slight notion of earth. Sugary; brown sugar and some toasty caramel. Starts to booze up as it warms further. Overtones of oak barrel. It has more of rum-soaked fruit bent than bourbon. Several strong whiffs begin to agitate the nostrils.

Leads off with a fruity inkling. Tastes a lot like rum-soaked figs and raisins. Candy sweetness in the mid-section. Toasty sugars - brown sugar and molasses. Damn sweet. It's nearly at the threshold for sweetness I can take. Tones of leather, tobacco, earth and a subtle charred note. The abv is decently masked but it builds appreciably over time. Lingerings of bread.

Full, slow-moving feel. Granular underpinnings. It makes for an all-encompassing, coating feel. Carbonation is fairly low, at least in proportion to the body. Full, long-lingering flavors on the finish. Rather smooth towards the end.

Overall impression: pretty solid as a sipper. Almost too sweet. It makes me want a cigar.

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Photo of bbeane
4.27/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Poured into an oversized snifter... starts with a thick partially fizzy head that disappears quickly. Beer is a very dark amber color, crimson when held up to the light

S- Very sweet smelling of caramel, figs, and molasses with some definite notes coming through from the bourbon barrels

T- Very sweet taste going along with the nose... caramel, sweet malts, cinnamon, and bourbony boozy heat

M- Slick, medium body with light carbonation

O- Loved it. Lived up to all the noteriety. Had lots of flavor with just the right amount of boozy heat to accompany it

CHEERS!!

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Photo of Daniellobo
4.17/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hefty, rich, and complex brew with a long sweet and fruity range.

Presentation: 750 ml brown waxed and capped bottle. Label with an intricate Bruery emblem in gold, ocher, and brown. It offers a small description of the brew, and anniversary context, with thanks to supporters. Back label has cellaring, and serving notes. Shows bottling year (2011), bottle number (06115), and Alc. by. Vol. (14.5%). Served in a snifter.

A - Amber brown pour, with a fair if short lived head, which leaves a faint surface memory with more persistent memory ring and little lacing.

S - Rich nose, this time it does hint at the intensity below. Fruity sense, cherries, figs, dried prunes, plenty of caramel sense.

T - Still the nose does not quite anticipate the intensity on the palate. Hefty range with an assertive sugary and fruity-boozy note. The bourbon barely touches on the sweetness, way at the bottom of the undercurrent with a fain note of vanilla that turn to more quad like notes of plums, honey, prunes, hint of butterscotch, more prunes, and again back to the rich boozy sugar.

M - Medium-full body, with light carbonation, caramel-sugary textured sense with a boozy finish. Again a bit hot around the alcohol.

O - Long complex sipper, the fruit and booze are a bit raspy, and at this point the sugary edge in that context might be a bit overwhelming.

Notes: Coton hit the right spot on the fly, Cuir not so much for me. The first time around as an after meal brew it felt overtly sweet, hefty and rough, a second tasting on another occasion gave a resemblance to the enjoyment of Coton while still feeling it could do with someā€¦ balancing? It is not the mellowing, this one is beautifully a hefty and complex sipper but has, again to me, a bigger rough edge than its predecessor. My memory could be betraying me though...

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Bruery Provisions in Orange, CA on 7/6/11

A - Poured a dark amber colour with a small amount of off-white head.

S - Brown sugar, burnt caramel, some noticeable alcohol. Very sweet nose.

T - Very sweet overall yet not overly sweet. Caramel, brown sugar, oak and some vanilla. Some noticeable alcohol as well. Complex.

M - Medium body. Smooth. Chewy. Light carbonation.

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Photo of Krakistophales
4.42/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a dark plum color with a bit of a tan head that recedes quickly into a halo and bubbles.

S: Candied fruit, caramel, toffee, cherries, grapes, sherry booziness

T: Fruity sweetness, mostly cherries and grapes, this one bites nicely at 14.5%. After the fruity sweetness comes a bit of a vanilla/oakish character and then recedes into a slightly dry finish, and a hint of bourbon.

O: Nice brew. It lacks a bit of complexity for me but it's still a mighty fine brew.

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Photo of bum732
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

S: Dark fruits, some tanginess, rich breadiness, some sherry notes.

L: Very dark cloudy brown, light tan head that dissipates to a ring of foam.

T: Dark fruit malt with a oxidized sherry notes. Lots of dark breadiness. Medium fruity bitterness with a touch of roastiness and bourbon oak "cheesiness". Some alcohol spiciness.

M: Medium full body, medium carbonation.

Very old ale like, really enjoyed the sherry notes.

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Photo of jwinship83
3.97/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml waxed capped bottle drank from my stone IRS snifter. my wife gave me this bottle for fathers day. to be honest, its kind of scared me. massive ABV, not my favorite style, no one to drink it with me, overall bruey skepticism...oh well, here it goes.

A- the pour yields a very dark mahogany brown with a surprisingly large khaki colored head. as expected, the head fizzles away before my eyes to form no more than a thin skin on the top of my glass. small spots of lacing get left on the sides of my glass.

S- the nose is potent and complex. the alcohol certainly makes itself known, but this beer is a massive 14.5% and "fresh" so ill give it a pass. bready malts mixed with toffee and a little sweet caramel. brown sugar, vanilla (oak), the bourbon comes out a little. decently fruity. raisins/tobacco, cherries, figs, a little bit of green apple skins. earthy and leafy hops.

T- the taste starts out with a ton of sweet malts. caramel, toffee, and fresh baked bread. after that it moves onto the fruits. raisins/tobacco, cherries, figs, dates, and green apple skins, which add a slightly sour character to this. the bourbon and vanilla from the oak are more apparent in the taste than in the nose. earthy and floral hops at the end. alcohol can be tasted throughout.

M- the body is on the extreme upper end of medium. the carbonation is nice and subdued. intense warming from the alcohol, but once again, that is expected.

O- this beer wasnt nearly the monstrosity that i was expecting. very drinkable for the massive beer that it is. especially for how fresh it is. this gives me hope for the bottles of coton i have saved in the cellar. i cant wait do acquire some papier and do a complete mini-vertical (with plenty of people) in a few years.

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Photo of zaphodchak
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Half finger of offwhite head, red-brown cloudy body. Swirly surface memory.

Plum on the nose, dark fruit, faintly sour grape.

Taste is sweet with some hops to balance it. Some dark fruit and powerful malt. Peach and fig? Dates. Faintly tart. Some alcohol burn, faintly. Similar to Samichlaus, but less sticky and sweet.

Smooth mouthfeel, decent for the style.

Overall a nice American strong-- paired with Fritos Flavor Twists.
Overall decent

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Photo of ColForbinBC
3.77/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750mL champagne style bomber, bottle #04575; poured into a Sniffer

The body sits a muddy brown with maroon/purple highlights. A thin, less than a finger off-white cap. No discernable lacing.

The nose is rich and sweet. Brown sugar, plums, raisins/figs, loads of toffee and a hearty amount of booze. As this warms, I get additional notes of grapes, leather, and vanilla. Extremely complex and deep, but really sweet and boozey.

On the palate, this pretty much follows the nose. Brown sugar, vanilla and raisins/figs dominate with plums, grapes, toffee and leather rounding everything out. Big and boozey and cloyingly sweet.

Full body, oily, with minimal carbonation. Finish is overly sweet.

Overall, this is a complex old ale; lots going on. It's just entirely too sweet. If the sweetness was tuned back a notch, this beer would be leaps and bounds better.

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Photo of Scrumtralecent
4.06/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bottle into a snifter.

A - A light brown pour with a rose colored tinge to it. Off white head that lingers.

S - Plenty of old ale smell in here. Toffee, caramel, candied malts, and what reminds me of a musty forest, but in a good way. Not much bourbon on the nose.

T - Lots of caramel with notes of toffee, malts, brown sugar, and plum. A nice sweet taste that does a good job of being bold but not overstated. For the ABV, it isn't sitting as hot as I expected this fresh. Bourbon still not coming through on the taste however, but still delicious for an old ale.

M - Kind of silky for an old ale which usually sit pretty heavy. The bourbon can be felt here with that bourbon lining the cheeks and lower lip. Kind of welcome actually and adds to the silkiness for me.

O - From slightly cold to room temperature, I like this beer. Tastes are ever evolving with some coming to the forefront with the temperature. I have one aging and interested to see how this beer will meld.

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Photo of Gmann
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a murky dirty brown color with golden highlights when held to a light. The head is tan, tight bubbled and settles into a solid ring.

The aroma is of plumes and raisins, with some tart lemon. Some light hints of bourbon, vanilla, and brown sugar. There is an overall mustiness.

The taste is of caramel malt, perhaps some scorched caramel. Next comes a way of sour oak flavors, mostly lemon and some green apple. Another wave or caramel and bourbon come next. This brings along some dark fruit flavors; prunes and sour cherries. Some light earthy bitterness in the end.

The feel is light with fairly soft carbonation. There is a maltiness to the brew but it sits light. There is some stickiness in the finish and the ABV can be detected in the finish.

An interesting beer, reminds me very much of a BSDA but perhaps more sour. Good mix of sweet and sour.

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Photo of AgentZero
3.83/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Smallbar Division

A - Chocolate brown beer that turns a deep red on the edges. Great looking beige head that didn't leave much in the way of stick on the sides.

S - Caramel, sweet brown sugar. I get some dark fruit and a ton of pears with apples on this one. It smells particularly rich, but not boozy at all considering how high the ABV is.

T - Exceptionally rich. A lot of vanilla, dark fruit, apple core. I don't really get much bourbon on this, and the base seems to be brown sugar and dark fruits.

M - Smooth, mildly carbonated, very full feeling.

O - Solid beer, I really had to try to get through the glass, but at 14.5% this could be a killer if it were easier. It's a very rich beer that you can only take in small doses, but seems to be one of the better ones of this series so far.

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Photo of MbpBugeye
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This bottle was left in my care by Arbitrator with instructions to share it with the members of my tasting group. So I shared with Spider889, Schwaeh and Ryan011235.

Appearance
Deep mahogany red with plenty of tobacco brown. Its capped with a short, slippery parchment colored head. Not much lacing, but some glasses sat looking more like a brandy than a beer.

Aroma
Malty, but perhaps not as malty as I had expected. Cinnamon-raisin is big. Vanilla, coconut and leather are there in spades as well. Bourbon aroma is light, giving off only disjointed notes commonly associated with it.

Taste
This is very rich and extremely smooth for a beer this big. Its sweet and sugary, getting dangerously close to sugar bomb territory. Sugared dried fruits, vanilla, and oak. The cinnamon-raisin is back and I like it. Figgy fruits soaked in rum bring lots of sweet alcohol. Sweet tobacco, some dried orange and toasted coconut.

Mouthfeel
Full bodied and quite chewy. This beer is sugary and you can even feel it. There is a noticeable grittiness. The beer is hot, but not as bad as I had thought. The alcohol is actually well kept in check.

Overall
I think I liked this much better than Coton. This beer is mellow and smooth. Easy as hell to drink.

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Photo of Spider889
4.02/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle was left for us Columbus BA's by Arbitrator.

Poured into a Lost Abbey tulip.
Bottle #01502

This is a dark, chocolatey looking beer. Good clarity. Nice tall balsa colored head with good retention and leaving spotty flecks of lace.

Smells of thick gooey black strap molasses at first. The name means "boiled leather," and leather is really big in the aroma. Sweet pipe tobacco, toffee, and mild ripe fruit make this a potent, but interesting brew.

The flavor here is really complex. Sweet molasses and tobacco. Brown sugar and snickerdoodle. Chocolate and oaky tannins are also fairly prominent. I don't get much bourbon influence - I can only imagine how delicious the 100% barrel aged version is. Sweet but not unpleasant.

Very dry with a bitter finish. A little sticky from all the sweetness.

Overall I was quite impressed.

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Photo of cetherid
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured into a tulip

A.

Beer is a dark brown color, with ruby highlights when held up to the light. A couple fingers worth of frothy off-white head going down to just a small film of head after a minute or so. Decent lacing going on as well.

S.

Dominant booze aroma with dark fruits such as raisins/figs with a little brown sugar. Barrel aging is evident as there is a nice little oak aroma in there. A few more sniffs bring out aromas of leather as well. Complex smelling brew, however a little hot. Cellaring this one would probably be ideal...lets have a look at the taste.

T.

Up front is booze soaked dark fruits...not as sweet as the nose had me to believe but definitely a noticeable sweetness..however the towards the end I get a weird tartness to it...almost like there are some cherries in there. More tart than sour....checking out some posts regarding this beer, a few others noticed the tartness and led them to believe it was infected. I actually enjoy the tartness to this. Just as the nose however, the booziness is a little too warming. It's not really like a bourbon booze taste but more straight up everclear/vodka.

M.

A little on the thin side however good carbonation for the style. I would like a little more thickness to it...maybe a little more stickiness/syrupiness...like I'm drinking a barrel aged 4D. It actually drinks pretty dangerously as the booziness is more up front than in the finish. It goes down pretty easily....surprising for a 14.5% brew.

O.

Overall its a decent beer but drinking a little hot right now. I would like the booziness to die down a bit and have more of the sweet malt/fruit come out. The tart cherry taste was not expected but kind of enjoyable. If it's infected, it didn't really hurt it. If I get another bottle it will be to age for at least 1 year.

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Photo of schwaeh
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle shared by Mbpbugeye.

A: Pours a dark tobacco brown. Nice light beige half inch head that fades into some nice lace.

S: Smells somewhat hot with tobacco, rum soaked fruit, sugar, and molasses. Smells like bourbon syrup. I get mesquite BBQ sauce once it warms all the way up.

T: The taste starts as leather, molasses, tobacco, and raisins. The alcohol is very noticable but not off-putting. The bourbon notes are very minimal in this blended version but add to the complexity.

M: Small amount of carbonation. Thick and viscous mouthfeel. Somewhat hot, but not overly so at 14.5%.

O: This is a slow complex sipper with plenty to offer. I'm very happy that I got to try this behemoth of a beer. Consume near room temperature to get the most out of this one.

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Photo of jrallen34
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Small Bar... pours a dark mahogany, good seductive color, light tan head, very creamy, great lacing... the nose is a bit weird but grows on me, lots of star anise and other spices, brown sugar, basically spice and malt... the nose is the same malty and spicy, theres a slight medicinal note that's a bit distracting but this is very drinkable and much better than Coton

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Photo of homebrew311
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: deep brown, ruby highlights, thin white head, little lacing

S: lactic acid, almond, maple, and cherry. A whole lot I going on here, subtle vanilla comes through at the end

T: starts off with fig, cherry, and tobacco. A little tartness starts gaining momentum, the end is very acidic with a bit of booziness

Mf: thick syrupy body, low carbonation

O: lots of flavor, nice flavors, heavy on the booziness

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Photo of axeman9182
4.21/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, #5098 was allowed to warm for 20+ minutes before being poured into my Duvel tulip.

Cuir pours a hazy rust color. There's a voluminous khaki colored head, must top out at over four fingers in height. There's above average head retention, and plenty of lacing left all over the glass. Especially given the high ABV it's all quite impressive, and if not for the slightly unattractive color I'd probably give it a 5 for appearance. The nose highlights the barrel aging, even though only 25% of the beer spent time in bourbon barrels. Oak and vanilla are dominant, with bourbon and slightly burnt sugar providing background support. The flavor adds a pronounced fruitiness to the proceedings, plum and raisin notes that I'm guessing come from some highly kilned crystal malts, and that sweet, brown sugary flavor has more of a central role this time around. There's also a slight warming from the alcohol, but it's not nearly as much as I might have anticipated from a nearly 15% beer. Just as the lack of booziness is a pleasant surprise, so is the absence of a syrupy body. I only had about a half pour of Coton on tap last year, but I remember the body coming across as quite thick. The attenuation seems a bit better this time around, as with the low level of carbonation the mouthfeel comes across as full, but not overbearing. Cuir is a very well brewed beer for being such a big Old Ale, and remarkably smooth for its youth. I may have to grab more than the one bottle I already have set aside for my cellar.

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Photo of marqoid
4.32/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured on tap at 1702 in Tucson, reviewed from memory.

Poured a deep red amber with minimal head and light carbonation. The smell is molasses, brown sugar, and dried fruits. The taste is...WOW... fruity, tons of dark fruit, figs, plum, raisin, and just a pleasant bit of sweetness. Mouthfeel is appropriate to style and carbonation is fairly light (this concerns me a bit for aging in a bottle). Overall this is very good, hides the 14.5% very well, I will seek out some bottles for aging.

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Photo of johnnnniee
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep clear reddish brown color with a good three finger head that lasts a good long time but leaves very little lace in its wake. First pour gave lambic like sour cherry aromas that subsided as the beer was allowed to breathe. Smells of caramel, brown sugar, alcohol and lots of tart fruit. Taste is sweet with a bit of an alcohol burn. Brown sugar coated raisins and cherries toasted then dipped in light rum sums this one up for me. Sweet sticky mouthfeel, medium body and carbonation level. I liked this one, its a bit harsh with alcohol right now, but I think with a bit of age this one will mellow quite nicely.

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Photo of Rizalini
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured on-tap at Khoury's in Las Vegas into a Chimay tulip, reviewed from memory...

Pours a cloudy, murky brown color with a 1 finger off-white head. Smells sweet, like honey and rum raisins. The taste is sweet and slightly smokey. Caramel and brown sugar really comes thru as it warmed up. On the final sip, it took on a barleywine flavor. Very complex, and changed with the temprature. Very happy I got to try this one on tap!

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Cuir from The Bruery
Beer rating: 4.16 out of 5 with 596 ratings
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