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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) | Bootlegger's Brewery

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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)
BA SCORE
3.77/5
Very Good
310 Ratings
Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Bootlegger's Brewery
California, United States
bootleggersbrewery.com

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Stout brewed with coffee and chipotle peppers.

Added by DoubleJ on 04-12-2009

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#19,834
Reviews:
118
Ratings:
310
pDev:
11.94%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Ratings: 310 |  Reviews: 118
Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.52/5  rDev -6.6%

Photo of TMoney2591
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served in a Chambord shaped pint glass.

Big thanks to jodan for this LIFed bottle!

The post-fantasy football draft party continues here. This stuff pours a garnet-highlighted black-brown topped by a finger of dirty tan foam. The nose comprises light coffee, hickory smoke, roasted malts, light dark chocolate, and a rather light twinge of hot pepper in the background. I'm not entirely certain how much the power of suggestion was at work here, but I could swear the pepper was back there. The taste holds notes of mild smoke, roasted malts, watered-down coffee, and a larger bit of pepper in the back. With every drink, the pepper seems to grow more powerful, similar to the effect found in Hunahpu's (just with different flavors surrounding it). It makes for an interesting taste experience, believe you me. Unfortunately, the ancillary flavors are all kinda weak, save for the roasted malts. The body is a straight medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a slightly watery feel. Overall, a rather enjoyable brew. I was hoping for something a bit thicker and more full-bodied, but it wasn't too big a deal here. I'd also been worried that the pepper had faded (seemed to be the recent review consensus), but instead it seemed the coffee had faded, though this allowed for a nice cumulative pepper effect. I'd say this brew was a success regardless, just not a monstrous one.

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Photo of dvmin98
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

Photo of 22Blue
3.81/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of imbibehour
3.93/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a nonic pint glass. No obvious bottle dating.

Deep mahogany red body color, a little wet looking out of the bottle with not much form and body to it. Head creation is minimal, barely half a finger of tan fine bubbles which quickly dissolves. Decent ringed creamy looking collar left and a see through top.

Aroma is quite invigorating. Mild chili warmth with a coffee angle that goes for the chocolate side mostly. There's a sense of very good charring pepper here and some possible scoville classic heat coming but remains to be seen. Decent and solid.

Palate manages the basics and enjoyably. Nice light roast with a great accent of pepper and char that compliment the mid palate real nicely. Finish is a little wet but also gets into some cola like sweetness which while is a nice balance also seems to cheapen the flavor slightly. Light sense of milk chocolate followed with simple drip coffee roast also warm up in the palate later as well.

A real nice take with solid integrated flavors of chipotle and coffee. More of a chocolate angle and the chipotle comes out more like hot pepper as opposed to roast and smoke, but it's done simply and nicely in the beer. Not mind blowing, but solid brew.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.15/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I can't remember who gave me this - it was either Chris (spycow) or t0rin0. Anyways, served in a Hill Farmstead glass.

A - Quick-dissolving tan foam settles to a thick collar, leaving some wisps on top but minimal lacework. Dark brown body with some reddish notes.

S - Coffee, smoke, mild peppery spice, chocolate. Seems kind of faded.

T - Again, tastes a bit stale - a bit of papery oxidation, stale coffee grounds, mild chocolate, sugar and malt. not much in the way of the advertised chipotles.

M - Somewhat thin, dry, roasty, with zesty carbonation. Thankfully not alcohol present, but not chili heat either.

D - Not sure how old this bottle was - I've know Chris and Bobby for about a year, so I haven't had this bottle for more than a few months. Hopefully I'll get to try this fresh and it's a significant improvement. However, Bootlegger's could using some bottle dating. Coffee and pepper flavors seemed to fall out rather quickly in this beer.

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Photo of Gobzilla
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: poured a very dark brown in color with brown highlights that had a thin bubbly head and left a little bit of lacing sticking to the glass.

S: chocolate and roastiness dominate the nose with slight chipotle pepper notes and mild coffee character.

T: the chocolate and coffee flavores were more potent on the palate with roasty milky accents and a touch of chipotle peppers that leave a slight sting on the finish.

M: the brew was medium to full in body with a pretty low amount of carbonation which had a sweet, mild roasty, and spicy creamy finish.

D: I really enjoyed this beer that featured some roastiness chocolate and chipotle peppers. I just just wished the chipotle character was more potent throughout. Still drank good and was a decent brew.

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Photo of drabmuh
3.67/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Extra in a trade recently from Andrew I think, at the time of this review it is the #2 chile beer on beeradvocate best of lists. Thanks!

Beer is a dishwater brown, really hazy with a lazy head, no lacing moderate carbonation, not the most attractive beer I've ever seen.

Aroma is roasty, coffee, with hints of smoke and mild chiles. Smells decent.

Beer is medium in body and pretty bitter at the back, lots of roasted coffee coming up in this one overall. The beer has this mildly dry finish and on that desert of a palate remains this slight smoky heat. Interesting. The chili flavor comes out the more I drink it, the stronger it gets but it never get overwhelming. It is just resting there, in the background popping up to remind you, "This isn't a porter it is a chile beer" -- I don't think I'd have it again but I did enjoy it.

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Photo of ShanePB
3.77/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle, courtesty of DearthVader from the Hotter than Hot BIF, an extra that fit well with the theme. Poured into a snifter.

A: Opaque dark brown body, borderline black, with a small tan head. The retention was quite good, holding onto a nice ring throughout, but the lacing was almost non-existent. Pretty good for a stout but I want it thicker, darker and creamier in general.

S: Baker's chocolate, roasted breakfast blend coffee beans, black pepper flakes and a bit of roasted spice from the chipotles used in the brewing, but not much.

T: Chocolate cake starts things off, backed by black coffee and finishing with a really wonderful lingering spice from the peppers. They don't impart, in my opinion, much to the flavor profile but it was an interesting sensation to have that burn in the back of your throat from the pepper oils. Really diverse flavors that play extremely well with each other.

M: A little thin to be calling this a 'stout' as the bottle claims, though all other characteristics make it so. A nice bit of carbonation here probably is leading to this thinner feeling.

This is most certainly reminiscent of a stout, like Bootlegger's claims, however classifying this as a Chile Beer here is wrong, IMO. Nonetheless, this is probably the best example I've seen of how to properly use chipotle peppers in a beer. They should not be the focus, instead blended with other flavors that will play well off each other -- something Bootlegger's has done.

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Photo of tempest
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber while in El Segundo. I opened the bottle after dinner and it makes a fine dessert beer. It's by no means sweet, but there's a medium, thicker body and tasty cocoa notes. I only get the slighted hint of chipotle and heat once the beer warms to cellar temperature, but it's a nice touch. This is definitely not a beer to drink too cold, the subtle flavors are totally lost. I'm not getting any noticeable coffee, but the smooth chocolate liquor taste, balanced by a mild roast will ease your mind and please your palate. Give this a try if you find it.

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Photo of LoveStout
3.25/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of DoubleJ
4.21/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bootlegger's already makes several variants of its Black Phoenix beer; Spicenator Black Phoenix, Imperial Phoenix, Barrel-Aged Imperial Phoenix. Does a nitro version of Black Phoenix count as well. If it does, let's makes some notes of it:

Once again, that nitro gas leaves a super creamy, long lasting beige head atop a black body. Beautiful, once again. The nose is softer on nitro, but it still delivers the key notes, of spicy coffee, and even some brownie chocolate.

I'll confess, the nitro does soften the flavor. Still, it does it in a good way. The peppers are softer, which allows the stout part of the beer to come out. The dark malt body and the nitro gives the flavor of devil's food cake. It's very smooth and creamy in the mouth, medium bodied, and much easier to drink than the "standard" Black Phoenix.

So there are a few differences between the nitro and non-nitro versions. The nitro version is easier to take, while the non-nitro version fills your mouth with more spicy peppers and coffee. I'm totally taking this ride again.

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Photo of fthegiants
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of Mora2000
4.12/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to ericandersnavy for sharing this growler.

The beer pours a dark reddish-brown color with a white head. The aroma is very nice. I get chocolate, coffee, smoke and roasted malt. The flavor is roasted malt, chocolate and smoke. Medium to thick mouthfeel and low carbonation. I don't get a lot of pepper flavor or aroma, but I get the smoke from the chipotles. Very nice beer.

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Photo of Zorro
3.29/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Clear black colored beer with a tiny brown colored head.

Smells of Chile pepper and smoke. Smells sweet and fruity. Some patent malt and a little coffee, but this is scented of pepper.

Starts out mildly sweet and slightly metallic. Taste of lactose, didn't expect a Milk Stout. Light pepper taste and a mild smokiness. Not much heat at all.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall a disappointment, I expected more.

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Photo of wrightst
3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of Halcyondays
4.04/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Beachwood BBQ,

A: Pours black with a nice whisp of head.

S: Heavy on the coffee and chile spice, capsaicin rich, very pungent.

T: Big time coffee and dark chocolate start the brew. The spice component is robust, not extremely hot, not mild either. It's really there from mid-palate onward. Long aftertaste, you'll be feeling this one long after you finish it.

M: Medium-bodied, felt watery at times to me though, light carbonation, spice makes it interesting.

D: A very nice beer from Bootlegger's. Both of the local North County breweries have made a chile beer and both have turned out to be really good. Check this effort out.

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Photo of Raziel313
3.25/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of Kelp
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of jschott75
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Hohnbaum
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of corby112
4.05/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Draft at the brewery.

Pours a dark chocolate brown color with a half finger beige head that quickly settles into lasting ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Roasted malt aroma with a strong chocolate character that lingers before being countered by the chili powder.  Hints of roasted coffe bean, dark chocolate, lactic cream and caramel.   These notes blend well with the spicy chili powder.

Chewy body with a good balance of sweet chocolate and roasted malt.  Lots of sweet and bitter dark chocolate along with hints of toffee, coffee and oatmeal.  Toward the end of the palate there is a prominent chili pepper spiciness that lingers well after the finish.  Chocolate and chili well integrated, creating a well balanced and flavorful sipper.  Reminds me of an artisan chocolate bar.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
4.43/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured jet black with a moderate coffee colored head. Two fingers to be exact with lots of bubbles and a few curtains of lacing after the head resedes.

S: The nose says chocolate covered chipotles to me. The coffee was present for sure but the nice roastiness, peppers and cocoa took precedence

T: Initial coffee gets ya but its pretty tame. The chipotles are ushered in with some creamy milk chocolate. Oh so nice. Harmonious the flavors are. No one flavor seems to dominate here. I am digging this. A nice roasted malt base for the flavors to ride on. The finish has a little hit, a nice pepper zing and coffee beans.

M:: Medium-full bodied, well carbonated, loads of flavor, a bit sweet with a light decadence to it

O: More than I was expecting here. My first beer from Bootleggers was very nice. I see the ratings are bit lower than mine. I think some people forget this is NOT a Imperial Stout as others BA reviews have eluded to " I see where this one is going but just misses the mark on the flavors of a big stout." Its a single stout. It hits all of the BJCP criteria and its very flavorful and full for the style. Well done.

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Photo of Axnjxn
4.14/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a DFH pint glass. no bottling date

A- Pours a pitch black color with a moderate coffee-off white head.

S- smell is rich with a roasted coffee /frappuccino aroma. no spiciness detected

T - taste is a bit less flavorful than i would have liked. very slight chili pepper taste with a moderate amount of coffee overtones. there is no lingering heat to this one at all. however, its very enjoyable, just not a whallop of flavor.

Feel - light/medium bodied with medium carbonation. feel is not at all how it looks. extremely easy to gulp a pint of this one down.

overall not really what i was expecting but i was surprised by how much i enjoyed this one. it only has just a trace amount of heat to it, but it is very enjoyable. i was very much enjoying the coffee flavor of this stout. definitely recommend to anyone who enjoys coffee flavored ales.

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Photo of Lucnifter
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) from Bootlegger's Brewery
Beer rating: 3.77 out of 5 with 310 ratings
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