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Either | Cigar City Brewing

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Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing
Florida, United States

Style: American Black Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.20%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by CampusCrew on 11-12-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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5/5  rDev +26.6%

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5/5  rDev +26.6%

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5/5  rDev +26.6%

Photo of PorterLambic
4.8/5  rDev +21.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours nearly black with a big, slow to dissipate head the color of cocoa. Great lace results when the mound of tight foam recedes.
Smell is really well-balanced with malt standing with the hops followed with wet cardboard, fruitcake and whiskey.
Taste is amazing with rich dark fruits, whiskey, roasted malt, with hops light.
Smooth rich creamy and chewy. Full bodied with a light effervescence. This is a really, really, REALLY good beer. Wish it wasn't a one time thing. Glad the Cock and Bull had it since I missed it at Cigar City.

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Photo of brentk56
4.77/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Appearance: Pours a pitch black color with a tan blanket that leaves a smattering of lace

Smell: The honey really comes through though the dark chocolate and citrusy hops clearly dominate

Taste: The combination of the cedar and the hops produce a minty character that dominates up front, though the strength of the malt (roasty chocolate and blackstrap molasses) provides a forceful backbone; by mid-palate, the Ty Ty honey starts to add an interesting sweetness which lingers into the finish like a Bit O Honey

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: As this beer warmed, the subtleties became more apparent and, while I generally prefer my IPAs more attenuated, I started to really enjoy the complexity of the malt and, over time, grew to enjoy this more than "Or"

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Photo of youradhere
4.59/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got in a trade with cheezedog. Thanks!

Pours impenetrably black body with soft, ample tan head that lingers and slowly falls. Very soft and fine foam that holds in aromas nicely. Smells of dark chocolate, coffee, oak, vanilla, anise, licorice, tart berry. Damn this smells wonderful. Taste is mellow, no one flavor really dominates, but if I had to pick one I'd say the chocolate dominates. An interesting and pleasant astringency is at the back and sides of the tongue, I think I'm picking up the cedar this was aged on. Could use a bit more in the middle as it seems that the beer comes out with a wall of flavor, fades, and then the pleasant astringency and chocolate comes back. Very interesting brew, I dig it for sure. Carbonation is very fine, body is medium heavy which compliments the off-sweet character of this. Very nice indeed, bravo CCB!

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Photo of glid02
4.57/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5


Pours a dark brown color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of dark and bready malts with solid amounts of pine, spicy, and herbal hop notes - in that order. Also present are hints of dark molasses and brighter citrus hops, the latter intensifying as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Dark malt flavors with hints of roastiness kick things off and are joined quickly by spicy and light pine hops. The malt flavors are beefed up midway through the sip with slight bready flavors and are sweetened by hints of heavy molasses. Near the end of the sip the hops lighten and hints of citrus and cedar make an appearance. The cedar, molasses, dark malt, and pine flavors carry through to a solidly bitter ending. Hints of tobacco linger on the palate after the sip.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is great. I finished my glass very quickly and could drink a lot of these trying to figure out everything that was in there.

Overall I was very impressed with this beer. The cedar had a lighter influence than in many of CCB's offerings and the malt complexity was great. Additionally, the hint of tobacco on the back end made an appearance, something of which I'm a fan. If you still have the opportunity to buy this beer I highly recommend doing so, well worth the shot. For those not a fan of CDAs I could make the argument that it's closer to an Old Ale than anything.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
4.52/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Didn't expect such a dark beer! This puppy pours like an imperial stout... thick, dark tan head over an opaque black body. Tons of lacing.

Aromas are unique and rich. Tons of cedar, piney hops, cocoa to chocolate sweetness... potpourri of goodness.

Wow, this is smooth - mouthfeel is like a heavy milk stout. But this pup comes loaded with citrusy hop resin, a lot more chocolate sweetness than the aroma suggests, and plenty of woodsy-cedar-ness. Finishes pretty creamy and with a nice carbonation level to cut thru the alcohol.

Drinkability is quite nice for the ABV. Kudos to all those involved in this great collaboration.

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4.5/5  rDev +13.9%

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4.5/5  rDev +13.9%

Photo of CampusCrew
4.5/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Ok... sometimes styles get hard to describe. This one is hard. but I spoke with Joey Redner and he said Black IPA would be close. I guess imperial Black IPA..

Nice beer. honey does not stand out in either beer but the "or" beer is a little sweeter. Both are very hoppy and I think he said the "or" beer uses the hop extract where the neither doesn't. Both beers are made to the same style but have different ingriedents and intrepretations. Well.. .whatever the story is CC hits another homerun.

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4.5/5  rDev +13.9%

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Photo of imbibehour
4.47/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

10oz pour from the bottle given at Church Key DC into a tumbler.

Small head was created with and off tan color sitting on a dark walnut body. It looked good and had staying power, that's about unfortunately all I can say.

Smell though is very impressive. Cola sweets, and sweet clove spices with roasts. Woah this is really unusual for a black ale this feels like a stout or something, but bursting with sweetness. Almost very confusing, but boy do I dig it.

Taste at first is a big fascinating silky sensation that punches you in the face. I can describe this as cola roast, and then faint hints of citrus grapefruit oil that is tolerable on the finish. No carbonation, and this borderline silky feel between and IPA and a stout.

This is like some crazy stout IPA hybrid or something it is really fascinating drinking here. Really impressed by this and very abv masked.

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Photo of cosmicevan
4.45/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

thanks to G311 and biglobo8971 for this one.

a - opened the bottle and filled the ccb snifter. poured a golden crisp brownish black that settled with a really attractive shine. thin fizzy head that was gone quick. very stout looking.

s - nutmeg and roasted malts with a blast of vanilla and wood. the honey is there as well. smells like a big stout.

t - nice hoppy black ale. great strong ale notes and flavoring...grapes, mmmm. there is a good enough amount of roasted malts and bittery chocolate to offset the hops and make for a tasty beer. i'm not a huge fan of this style, but this one is pretty good.

m - big and bold...finishes a bit bitter and leaves a tingle.

o - overall i dug this one...a lot. great roasted malt and superb balance with the hops. cannot wait to try the OR when i finish this one. i think that it is misclassified. this...to me...is a strong ale and a kick ass one at that.

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Photo of kiddynamite920
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: One of the better head retentions I've seen with a Black IPA. Frothy, creamy mocha head around two fingers seems to be coming along for the ride. The beer underneath is as dark as an Imperial Stout. Just pitch black.

S: This is very lovely smelling. I get hints of cocoa and coffee, big juicy hops, a caramel sweetness and definitely a honey aroma. It's strange approaching this pitch black beer and getting sweet and juicy hop characters. Easily one of the best examples of this style that I have come across. Exactly what it should be.

T: Flavor is right on point with the nose. Big roasted malts that provide bitterness and chocolate flavors. Citrusy/piney hops that are very aggressive as well. The two ends of the spectrum are playing very well with each other. Alcohol is a bit more present but nothing overwhelming. Again, this is what I've been looking for with this style. Aggressiveness from both ends with the roast and the big hop flavor and aroma.

M: Silky smooth and almost velvety with a good drying after effect from the roasted malts. Carbonation is fairly high which provides a little sizzle with the alcohol heat. Could see this one aging quite nicely.

D: Finding this one very drinkable, impressive beer without a doubt. Great example of the style finally.

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4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of bamadog
4.4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Wow! Thanks to sorellenator for tossing this one as an extra in a recent trade! Review is from notes taken on 11/20/2010 and poured from the bottle to a pint glass.

Appearance: Whoa - pour looks kind of thick and viscous and it's deepest, darkest brown/near black; starts with a 1 and 1/2 finger creamy, dark tan head with good retention; body is opaque; head fades to a thin, uneven cap; a few spots and strands of lacing are left holding on to the sides of the glass; I'm most impressed by how thick this beer looks, just... awesome.

Smell: Tons going on here -- lots of hops right up front that are sweet and citric in nature (grapefruit, orange); sweet syrupy chocolate; a little bit of honey; a sweet fruity presence, perhaps? Or perhaps it's the hops that are swirling around my nostrils; touch of cedar that starts to come out more as it warms.

Taste: Very unique -- the cedar is quite potent and right up front, followed by those strong and citric hops, but rather than being entirely sweet and citric, there's a touch of grassy earthiness to them; very strong malt presence that brings about a strong presence of sweet and bittersweet chocolate; definite burnt and roast coffee flavors as well; slight presence of alcohol is blended in there, but for being just over 11%, it's very well masked. Really quite outstanding

Mouthfeel: The looks on the pour are quite accurate -- this sucker is thick! Body is of a solid, medium weight; carbonation is present, but really comes across as smooth; a thick, semi-dry coating is left on the roof of the mouth; belly is left warm from the high ABV.

Drinkability: An excellent beer that rivals any Black IPA/CDA out there, but more unique with the cedar aspect that only Cigar City seems to be doing (and they make me want to experiment with it in my own homebrewing as well); it would sit a bit heavy after a while though, and the ABV is certainly too high for too much, but I will say, for what it is, it is really quit solid and definitely worth checking out.

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Photo of Immortale25
4.37/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Was so stoked to find this behind the shelf at a local convenience store! Didn't think I'd ever get to try this. Poured into a Dogfish signature snifter. No freshness date.

A- Pours a black color that's entirely opaque with a dark tan 1/2 inch head that lingers a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and bubbly surface foam. Spotty lacing.

S- Full of roast and some oak. Has a mild aroma of oxidation but the coffee/licorice/molasses depth overrides most of the signs of age...not to mention the very apparent presence of alcohol.

T- A bit hot and sweet with a bourbon tinge. More roast from the malt plus some creaminess. Molasses sticks out again. The alcohol is felt in the back of the throat after multiple sips as the aftertaste makes chocolate come to mind. Bitter, but not in a hoppy kind of way. More like the sweetness of a barleywine with more emphasis on the malt character (due to the ty ty honey I guess?).

M- Creamy in the feel as well. Plenty of alcohol twang to make you sit up in your seat. Low carbonation was expected since I'm pretty sure this bottle is at least a year old, probably two.

O- Success. Not only was this a very sought after brew for yours truly, but it also ended up surpassing my expectations making this well worth the $9 +tax I paid for this bad boy. Deep, complex and strong. A sipper for sure and one hell of a night cap. Cheers.

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Photo of TCgoalie
4.37/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

As I pour this brew into a lame hotel high ball glass, I notice its black appearance. A tan head is created upon pouring but quickly dissipates to nothing. Sadly, only a bit of lacing lines the glass.

There is a good deal of sweetness in the scent. I am picking up honey, chocolate, and a bit of pine. There is also a subtle woodiness.

The taste is bold with a decent amount of sweetness matching a light amount of bitterness. The large malt body offers hints of honey, coffee, dark chocolate, wood, and a touch of oatmeal.

The mouthfeel is very much like drinking liquid chocolate or marshmallow fluff. So rich, creamy, and very full in the mouth. The aftertaste is clean aside from some lingering bitterness.

Either is amazingly drinkable considering the ABV. I would happily put a few of these away and get myself into trouble.

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Photo of Skrip
4.36/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into a Hill Farmstead oversized wine glass.

A~ pitch black, tiny tan head, and a little bit of lacing.

S~ tons of dark roasted malts followed by citrusy, earthy hops. theres also a little caramel and molasses lingering.

T~ i'm so surprised that theres still a decent hop presence for how old this is! other than the roasted malts and hops, theres a lot of honey sweetness and a little bit of burnt coffee as well.

M~ drinks like a stout, tastes like an IPA! i'll blame that on the honey, it definitely adds a nice thickness making this brew extremely unique! other than that, nice carbonation despite its appearance.

O~ if you're wondering why i'm reviewing this, it is in fact an HF/Grassroots colab. haha! and a really good one at that! i must get my hands on Or now to see how they compare. i'm a little late for the ones that were actually brewed in VT at this point but thats quite alright cause this actually blew me away a little bit. still worth a shot if you have one around!

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4.35/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I honestly don't know why people are rating this beer so low. I think it's awesome and I might trade for more.

Pours a deep heavy stout black. Very thin head. Dissipated to a ring. Little bit of lacing.

Aroma smells oaky and hoppy and sticky sweet roast stout. I think is smells great. Could use a little more aroma though.

Taste is great. I think it's similar to night stalker. Little less hoppy though. It's nice and roasty. Little bit of sweetness with caramel and toasted sugars. Slight hint of dark fruits. The oak is nice. The hops work well in this beer.

Mouthfeel is slightly too thick but it's actually pretty drinkable.

Again I don't know what all the hate here is but this beer is great. Either and Or seem to be the same beer to me. I'll have to open Or right now too and compare them. I'll be trading for more of this.

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