Cerveza Sin Frontera | Brasserie Trois Dames

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3.64/5
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43 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Trois Dames
Switzerland
brasserietroisdames.ch

Style: Belgian Saison

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.69%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by HoppySuds on 07-29-2015

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
12
Ratings:
43
pDev:
14.84%
 
 
Wants:
1
Gots:
6
Trade:
0
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Photo of kojevergas
3.25/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

BOTTLE: 33cl format. Brown glass. Pry-off crown cap. Uninteresting label art. Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

5.69% ABV. Aged in Sherry casks. No style is listed on the label.

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to come to temperature over the course of consumption.

HEAD: None whatsoever. No lacing.

BODY: Looks like apple cidre vinegar. Bright copper-gold colour of average vibrance. No yeast/lees are visible within.

Appears undercarbonated. Not a great appearance overall, regardless of the intended style.

AROMA: Cidre. Red apple skin. Red wine. Grape skin. Dampened oak. Vinegar/acetic acid. Hints of doughy yeast. Mild (~4/10) sourness. Twangy, with barnyard notes, lemon, hay, faint leather, and funky brettanomyces yeasts giving it a rustic vibe. Suggests an acidic brew with nice diversity of flavour and elements of spontaneous fermentation in play.

Aromatic intensity is average. I find no off-flavours aside from a hint of oxidation (judging by the presence of a dampened stale cardboard note). No overt booze.

TASTE & TEXTURE: Acidic, acetic, twangy, and mildly sour (maybe a 3-4/10 in terms of intensity). Cardboard joins dampened wine barrel, signaling oxidation...don't age this beer. Apple cidre vinegar is prominent along with hints of apple skin and grapeskin. Brettanomyces funkiness is present in the background, but it's neither very funky nor very sour, which may leave some drinkers disappointed.

Unrefreshing. Smacky. Smooth. Wet. Undercarbonated. Acidic. Light-bodied. Not chewy, harsh, rough, scratchy, oily, or heavy. A bit thin on the palate, with a weak overall presence on the palate.

OVERALL: Given the three breweries involved, I hoped for better. This is thin, watery, undercarbonated, and a bit underwhelming in terms of depth of flavour and intricacy. Drinkable but forgettable work. I wouldn't pay the Shelton Bastards price to try this again, but it'll scratch your sour ale itch even if it isn't as complex or as balanced as the best expressions of the intended style.

High C+ / ABOVE AVERAGE

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Photo of Abe_Froman
4.21/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of StormAles
3.96/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of tylerstravis
1.62/5  rDev -55.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

This tastes and feels like vomit. If someone offers this to you sock them in the throat. I can't imagine what went wrong here, but it's not infection.

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Photo of dsshuck
3.48/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Rockjocknroll
3.4/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of mig100
3.65/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Texasfan549
3.66/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of kjkinsey
3.9/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of polopaul20
4.19/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Sweffin
4.25/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of tomghiley
1.96/5  rDev -46.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

THE TRUTH HURTS

Okay, I'm going to be as polite as possible, but believe me, I'm also being honest, and this is going to sting, the problem with craft and specialty import beers, and beer culture as a whole, is that it's relatively new, trendy, and complete bullshit. Everyone is enthusiastic, and that's great, beer deserves and needs your support and everyone else's support to get the respect it deserves, problem is, now every enthusiast is also masquerading as a critic, and nobody has the balls, common sense, or beer sommelier training to take opinions seriously, well, I do, so listen up. This beer flat out sucks, pun intended. It's completely fucking flat, anyone who is saying they enjoy the light carbonation or how subtle the bubbles are, is a fucking moron, it's completely flat. It's so flat it might as well be collapsing into itself, the brewery fucked up, for real, the brewer knows he fucked up too. Luckily for Trois Dames every enthusiast on here who thinks they're a smart beer critic is willing to polish a turd and romanticize just how great this lousy fucking beer is. It was not meant to be flat, they brewed a shit beer, accidents happen, their other beers are great, but me giving this a score of 2 is being generous. Does it taste better than a Pabst, sure, it barely tastes better than a Pabst, but I'll take a PBR in a second over this bottle of flat shit, let me add that I'm a huge cask beer fan, this has NO carbonation though. It's like taking a bottle of Chardonnay and trying to say that you've made a sparkling wine, so beer enthusiasts, educate yourselves, take notes, while you claim to like this beer, it's a huge fucking disasterous mess that is so poor, the brewery should be absolutely ashamed for having bottled such piss.

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Photo of chippo33
3.95/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of bobv
3.94/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Original rating:

3.75/3.75/3.75/3.5/3.75

New rating as this beer warms up:

3.75/4.00/4.00/3.5/4.00

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Photo of ahbithwabm
3.25/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Jordy777
4.09/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

Photo of mush
3.63/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of qchic
3.89/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of kamilgracki
3.28/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of aztraz
3.75/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Mattias
3/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of KensWorld
3.39/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Side by side taste test with Crooked Staves version. I tried Jester Kings back in October. I wish I had a bottle here now to add to the tasting. Anyway, 12 oz bottle poured into snifter. No head at all and actually no carbonation. Looks clear honey Amber just like CS. I think it went flat. The smell is sour, funky, winery. Slight honey on nose. Taste is a little off, metallic, tart, very tart, sour apples. There is a hint of Sherry. It's lacking any aftertaste unlike the CS version. Overall it's very similar to the other 2 but this version tastes like you put the others in a glass open in the fridge all day. I think this bottle might be infected. I still enjoyed it for what it is. Great concept, hope they do this again.

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Photo of Rutager
3.75/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Power's out but gotta tick.

I'm guessing this would be a super clear pale gold with minimal head?? I can't see shit by the glow of my phone, but whatever.

Smell is sweet tartz and wine barrel with some crisp tart apple. Aroma is more intense than anything I've experienced in my life before due to my other senses intensifying.

Nice flavour. Fruity, tart, and some nice funk. Carbonation is barely there and doesn't work well with the lighter body. Good stuff, now turn on the lights!!

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Photo of suckaj
3.75/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Shawner
4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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Cerveza Sin Frontera from Brasserie Trois Dames
Beer rating: 3.64 out of 5 with 43 ratings