Veritas 017
The Lost Abbey

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American Wild Ale
4.38 | pDev: 6.16%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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Notes: Veritas 017 was aged in oak with Blackberries and Lost Abbey house cultures. Tart Blackberry, strong notes of oak and tannins with a strong presence of Brett leads to a very refreshing jam-like finish.
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Photo of GarrettB
4.09/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

January 1st, 2016 - After a series of sours the subtler notes in each successive beer becomes fainter and harder to hear, as if I'm using underpowered radios to find a signal. A shame, too, because this is Lost Abbey's Veritas, and probably has a lot of subtlety to offer. It's a beautiful foxy orange and has a gorgeous aroma, with a nice ginger like freshness, and a lovely sour ale flavor, with a crisp aftertaste. Beyond that, it simply registers as an elegant, refined sour.

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Photo of gcamparone
4.25/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 750mL bottle into a Lost Abbey Teku. Acquired in a trade.

Pours a hazy maroon body with a light pink frothy three finger head that reduces fairly slowly to leave a layer of foam and good lacing.

Aromas are sharp and acidic, lots of lactic tartness, sharp citrus and sour berry aromas.

Taste is lightly sweet and grainy initially, followed by sour blackberry and sour apple notes with a drying, woody follow through. Finish is dry and sour, lingering on the tongue for a while. Pretty effervescent, crisp body.

Overall a solid wild - I would have preferred a little more berry and less sharp acidity though. Great nonetheless.

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Photo of scottfrie
4.47/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into snifter.

A: Pours a light cranberry juice color with an ample, fluffy, thick, frothy head that faded into a rocky thick film left wispy thick chunks of lace.
S: Earthy bramble patch nose with musty and damp notes of earthy berries mixed with barnyard/musty funk.
T: Earthy blackberry. Not a bright acidic flavor but rather a juicy and sweet blackberry flavor mixed with apple, peppery spice, and earthy musty funk. Brett finish with a kiss of tart acid. Aftertaste is fruity and sweet with tart, drying, candy-like flavors.
M: Soft frothy carbonation, fluffy and smooth. Drying finish with a mellow acidic quality. Tart but not harsh. Lightly greasy.
O: Very smooth drinking. Great berry flavor without being cloying or synthetic. Juicy berry but tons of bramble patch earthy notes.

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Photo of mothman
4.25/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Blackberry colored. White head. Gusher.

Sour, tart, acidic. Lemon citrus and blackberries. Oak barrels. Lost abbey funky bugs.

Light to medium bodied. High carbonation. Bubbly.

Solid American wild ale. Fun to try.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.34/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Thanks for the share, Umberto!

This one pours a light purplish/reddish color, with a small head and a few random splotches of lacing.

This one smells like surprisingly sweet and juicy blackberry, with just a small hint of acidity, and very light Brett.

The blackberries on this one are super strong, with a much sweeter and less tart inflection than I expected. This is really nicely sweet and jammy, with a light Brett component, slightly lemony, but a bit washed out by the (delicious) blackberry.

This is light bodied, crisp, clean, with a super juicy mouthfeel, a good level of carbonation.

This is a fairly delightful expression of blackberries. The beer is simple, but very tasty.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
4.51/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Matthew. Thanks man.

Pinkish ruby hue, mild haze, small off-white collar that fades to nil. Aromas of funk, oak, blackberry. Vinous, tart, fruity. Delicious.

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Photo of pmarlowe
4.61/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Bottle pour at 2016 O’Brien’s SDBW Lost Abbey Beer Dinner.

A: Pours garnet with a half inch of white head.

S: Barnyard, leather meld effortlessly with blackberry. Light to moderate oak and vanilla.

T: Follows the nose, with a light sweetness and tannins, and medium-light tartness, just low enough to maintain the high drinkability.

M: Medium-light body and carbonation. Slight creaminess.

O: Delicious and highly drinkable. This stands shoulder to shoulder with most highly regarded fruited lambics. I enjoyed this more than DDG.

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Photo of Stevedore
4.35/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

750ml cork and cage bottle. Served in a Lost Abbey teku glass.

Pours a beautiful dark purple, with a reddish hue, one finger reddish head, good retention, bits of lacing, not a whole lot. Smells like a Lost Abbey sour, peppery with a blackberry bite to it, light graininess, light oaky funk. Flavour is really a step above the nose though, rich blackberry tartness and jamminess, good funk and oak, moderately acetic, light grainy sweetness. This is a nice blackberry sour, even if not on the level of the big whale blackberry sours- on its own, it really does well on its own merits. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, a bit jammy, good carbonation, lots of blackberry tartness on the finish.

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Photo of gibgink
4.52/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The blackberry is very subtle on the palate, but adds greatly to the color, making an absolutely beautiful looking beer. Slightly tart, with a clean finish.

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Photo of cosmicevan
4.68/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

damn, this is awesome. great berry flavoring in a super easy drinker. happy to report that the carb is perfection for the beer. simply a of the best I have had from lost abbey.

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Photo of porbastipa
4.53/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Had this at both the release and a recent bottle share. The appearance is lovely with a hue of carbonated purple blackberries. Nose is both berry fruit and a hint of barrel. Mouth is crisp and clean with jammy berry notes that are melded with oak barrels and hints of mineral. The brett brings a soft tart that compliments the jammy fruit. This is a fine presentation displaying both fruit and barrel in balance with it's wild elements!

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Photo of Brolo75
4.41/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

750 ml bottle poured into a teku

A: Pours a reddish, pinkish color with a red tinged head, lots of carbonation on the pop and the pour, lots of carbonation streaming up the glass, no lacing.

A: Big aromas, lots of sour, tart funkiness, oak, tart berries, definitely get the brett coming through along with the berries, very nice.

T: Up front, soft touch of sourness, brett, hit of tart berries, more sourness, tart and funk in the aftertaste, nice touch of oak in the finish as well, very nice.

M: Light bodied with lots of carbonation, long, dry finish.

O: A well made barrel aged sour with fruit, balanced, not overly sour, very drinkable.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.4/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle. Bottle is a slow gusher. Purple body, kinda murky. Smell has a nice blackberry aroma. Huge brett aroma. Some oak. Tastes really sour up front. Brett is equally strong and dries out very quickly. Pungent. Blackberry comes with sourness and just a bit of sweetness. Oaky dry finish. The very back end has an intense sourness that almost makes it unpleasant. High carbonation. Very dry. Not my favorite of the series.

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Photo of RebelWithoutACause
4.87/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A - dark red that is transparent when backed with light

S - awesome blackberry nose, they definitely didn't hold back on the fruit.

T - blackberry jam, amazing. Some slight hints of raspberry but mostly blackberry blackberry and blackberry

M - a decent amount of acidity, could use a little age, still nice tartness to pair with the overwhelming blackberries

O - amazing beer, blackberry is usually very subtle but not in this one, wow! VSB but better. Like if VSB and SHBRL had a baby and it was trained by Yoda from birth and now it's 22 year old Sith slaying machine. Scott Sterling takes this beer to the face on the reg

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Photo of rudzud
4.6/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Shared with JLindros and Kyle. Received in a trade, bottle #680.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a nice hazy raspberry hue with a thin white head that fade to leave a thin blanket with a creamy halo.

S - Aromas of very nicely tart berries, light almost lactic creaminess. Very light vanilla and oak. Real good with very nice funk.

T - Taste is similar to the nose, huge blackberry notes, nice seedy berry, good soft funky brett, excellent barrel notes. Soft vanilla and oak. Really pleasant soft oak and cream. Quite tasty.

M - Mouthfeel is nicely carbonated, creamy.

O - Overall this was a very nice raspberry beer, excellent tartness. Really plant pleasant.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of jlindros
4.49/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to rudzud
Pink small fizzy head, dark murky pinkish dark red color.

Nose big berry fruit, blackberry with tart fruit, little funk, little bready funk, little acidity and tart lacto like funk, light oaky barrel note, juicy berry.

Taste brings big acidity, lactic and acetic acid funk, lacto and sour Brett with big berry, juicy tart blackberry, little bitter seed, acidic funk, little buttery oak barrel too. Finish little flemmy quite acidic fair sour funk, more lingering blackberry and little seed.

Mouth is med to lighter bod, big carb, big acidity, little flemmy.

Overall very nice, and nice carb.

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Photo of Rothobinide
4.72/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Tasted at The Lost Abbey on release day and then again from one of my bottles on 4/26. Pours out a clear purplish-red. Forms a sparse, persistent head that dissipates slowly. Aroma is berry fruit oak and zesty, funky notes that are more muted. Flavor is super balanced, smooth mouthfeel around the berries, oak tannins and citrus-funk flavors. Everything comes together very nicely. Super drinkable. While it's not as compelling as previous Veritas releases, it's such a solid achievement for a brewery with an impeccable track record; it's almost too easy to take for granted. A terrific beer. Exemplary.

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Photo of ptykozoon
4.18/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a vibrant cherry with a creamy undying head. Very pretty.

Blackberries, oak, earth, lemon peel. Subtle.

Blackberries are juicy and fresh, reminiscent of artisanal jam; not sweet, the blackberry essence is very transparent. Lacto and floral notes in the finish. Sourness feels restrained - aging should be interesting.

Bright carbonation which dies quickly, medium mouthfeel. ABV tastes around 7%.

Well done.

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