Cuvee De Tomme
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American Wild Ale
Ranked #168
Ranked #1,128
4.25 | pDev: 10.59%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Cuvee De TommeCuvee De Tomme
Notes: Blended dark strong ale with sour cherries aged in American oak and French oak red wine barrels.

Once upon a time it was the most award winning Pizza Port beer of all time. Now it has found a new home at The Lost Abbey.

A massive brown ale base that is made from four fermentable sugars including malted barley, raisins, candi sugar and sour cherries, this beer is fully-fermented before being placed in bourbon barrels where the beer ages for one year with the sour cherries and the wild Brettanomyces yeast that we inoculate the barrels.
Reviews: 422 | Ratings: 1,258
Photo of Dowlers
4.47/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On draft at stone liberty station. 12%
Appearance: opaic dark brown with red highlights when held to the light. Initially had a big tan head that quickly dissipated to a thin wispy layer.
Nose: huge cherries and brett. I was expecting a typical quad but this smells of a great sour.
Taste: this beer has everything. It starts with a medium sourness on the tongue with loads of cherries and raisins. Then there is a sweet caramel sugar I usually associate with big Belgium quads. Finally there is a dry chocolaty, roasty flavor bursting through at the end.
Mouth: high carbonation balanced with the mouth puckering sour is perfect. The dark sugar mixtures balance the massive 12 % alcohol perfectly.
Overall: one of the best beers I've ever had. There is a combination of sour and aged old ale / quad I've never come across before.

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Photo of Natureboy
4.99/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

An excellent Flanders brown. Poured a dark brown (SRM 37) out of the tap. Minimal head. Medium tart, but balanced with the sweetness of the roasted malt, it is not too acetic and puckery. ABV listed at 11 percent, but there is absolutely no alcohol burn. Huge beer that manages to hide its alcohol in tartness and malt and notes of sour cherry and vanilla. Great take on the Flanders brown.

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Photo of John_M
4.2/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

On tap at the Aptos St. BBQ. Been quite a while since I had the opportunity to try this well crafted beer. The wine barrel aging really dominates the flavor profile (at least that's what I detect, though the recipe doesn't list any wine barrel aging), giving the beer a lightly sour, wine infused finish. You still pick up some light chocolate and malty sweetness from the underlying base beer, and the overall combination of flavors is quite. Aptos St. was doing small, 5 ounce pours of this beer, which I found was just right for me (would have had difficulty sipping a pint or even a 12 ounce tulip of this beer). Overall, another solid effort from the folks at Lost Abbey.

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Photo of Ciocanelu
4.5/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours muddy dark brown with absolutely no head. Very complex aroma with dark fruits like sour/bitter cherries, figs, dates, plums and some nice bourbon. Taste starts tart with the fruits mentioned and finishes slightly bitter and tart. Bourbon is present all the way. Long, pleasant aftertaste. Quite balanced considering all the ingredients. Body is pretty heavy with almost no carbonation. Overall this is an excellent beer. One of the best and most complex sour beers I ever had.

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Photo of TruePerception
4.09/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Lost Abbey's Cuvee de Tomme, Quad brewed with raisins, with cherries added then aged Bourbon barrels. 11% ABV.

A: No head; just a very slim ring of tiny bubbles around the edge. No lacing. Decent sheeting. Brown/tamarind, with a reddish tint. Nut brown, with a slight yellow rim, in the dimple.

S: Tart Morello cherry as soon as the bottle is opened. Yeah, lots of super tart Morello cherry! Slight barnyard funk. Some raisin and molasses backing. A slight Bourbon caramel note.

T/MF: Oh, odd. A pretty decent tartness up front, directly from the cherries. Doesn't seem to be from sour inoculation. There seems to be a bit of bitter chocolate in there. Definitely molasses, cherry pit. Slight oak on the back. A faint Bourbon-y alcohol on the back of the throat and on the chest. Yeah, I definitely feel this one in the chest. Cherry sweetness on the very tip of the tongue, but it's well disguised by the sharp acidity. A bit of hay and barnyard around mid-tongue. A weird light, yet sharp, sweetness towards the back of the tongue. I'm feeling the alcohol in my belly, as it settles. Very interesting. Date or prune, also around mid-tongue. A lot of layers going on. Fig, acai, peach pit, apple seed. A good amount of non-hop bitterness on the back end, mostly in a seed/stem kind of way.

A great experience beer, but not something I could see wanting to drink regularly. I'm wondering if a different kind of barrel would have suited it better. Brandy, perhaps...

Poured from a 12.7 oz. bottle, into a Belgian tulip glass.

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Photo of stephens101
3.95/5  rDev -7.1%

2009 bottling.

Oh buddy the aroma has tart as fuck written all over it. Can I handle this? Has it aged well?

Not much pop of the cork. Color is a dark brown. A few scattered bubbles clear out quick.

Vinous in almost every way aroma-wise with plenty of sour, dark fruits (including cherries of course) and an aftershock of vinegar. Some spent grain and

The taste is tart all the way, but not overwhelmingly so. Suprisingly balanced with a medley of ripe fruits mixed with sour fruits, yeast, vinegar, and a bit of vanilla and spice.

The alcohol heat is trumped by the flavor, and barely noticeable.

This one didn't seem to suffer at all for it's age, and maybe I'm just getting used to sours, but I'm going to finish this one off and wish for more.

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Photo of PHBoiler
3.85/5  rDev -9.4%

Tastes like a sour old ale. Nice sour cherry nose and you certainly get the sour cherry flavor. This beer could use some sort of carb. There is none. It's a little pricey for what it is. Expected something more complex or complete. It's a solid sour if you're a big sour cherry fan.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.66/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Moeder Lambic, 375ml bottle served chilled, poured in a tulip.

The color is a dark translucent brown with practically no head wth sunny red hue when held to the light with small bead ring. The smell is intense with tons of oak and dark fruit-cherry and light bourbon with stone fruit presence and light woody accent alongside a caramelized sugar and gentle vanilla aroma with the cherry odor continuing with an almost raisin-like yeast accent and mild alcohol in the back. The mouthfeel is tangy up front with rich malt and sour presence with sligh hint of sweetness and dry warming effect following with alcohol evident. The feel has a light woody texture with subtle acidity of fruit with a dry slight astringent wild yeast character with the complexity of bourbon's alcohol influence as it finishes dry.

The flavor is lovely with a mld vanilla mixed with sour cherry and bourbon juxtoposition just tantalizing along with gentle tangy yeast with the sour elements blending well with the mild alcohol and wood from the bourbon with cherry skin tannin in the finish and warmth of the bourbon continuing in the back with slight dark sugar accent. The tangy sour is in harmony with the carmelized malt flavor with light sour flavor of fruit and mellow fruity sweetness combining to finish tart with a drying alcohol taste and barrel tannin in the end. Overall this is a true joy to savor -for a strong 11% ale to have a quad base and the cherry and sour elements all working in unision is a testament with exceptional drinkability with the bourbon enhancing the overall enjoyment-great mix of fruit and barrel aging in this.

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Photo of impending
3/5  rDev -29.4%


375 dark cola quad color indeed, zero head zero lacing zero carbonation

the aroma is a delight, lots of cherries, a deep developed sour, the underlying quad is in evidence

a strong lactic sour dominates the initial sensation then ends up dominating everything, lots of cherry, lots of wood, lots of bugs. Very sharp dry twang.

nearly medium bodied mouthfeel

some brew, quite a few in fact are fine with little to zero carbonation
but this isn't one of them, very disappointing
rarely do I drainpour but that's because I rarely buy a brew without an
understanding of what to expect
no cheers

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Photo of kaseydad
4.15/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2009 vintage

Snifter pour with nice carbonation. Pours an amber/brown colored ale with a beige head. Burgandy highlights. Light foam around the glass.

Aroma consists of red vinegar, red wine, cherries, old school funk and oak.

Taste is sour cherries with noticeable red wine characteristics. Slight vanilla on the aftertaste. Wood and oak present as well. Good stuff.

Overall I was pleasantly surprised, but no overwhelmed by this pricey brew. Was happy to have tried it but the overall cost would make me think twice about consuming another. Still a good beer and session though.

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Photo of Jonada
4.24/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

One tap at Capone's during Philly beer week. Served in a 5.5 oz nonic glass.

Appearance: Pours brown with hints of red. Small head dissipates relatively quickly.

Smell: Sour cherry, lacto, some slight malt sweetness cuts through that sourness as well.

Taste: Same sour cherry and lactic acid character that dominated the aroma. Also accompanied by a medium high sourness. Slight sweet caramel presence comes through as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a creamy mouthfeel. Medium levels of lively carbonation. Yes you read that right. It's carbed! (I realize carbonation in this beer is a bottle issue. Lighten up)

Overall: Another really good one from Lost Abbey. I can't speak for the bottled version, but on tap this was excellent. Really glad I finally got to try it.

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.23/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 350mL bottle into a Koningshoven chalice.

A: No head at all. The color is dark plum and is not transparent. Interesting. Remarkably purplish.

S: Gently tart. Rich and fruity. Heady and pleasant.

T/M: Oh wow. Mindbendingly puckery. Ridiculously tart and acidic, especially for a beer otherwise so mellow and sweet. This is an amazing beer, that is likely to be a little too sour for many. Very fruit forward, very tasty.

O: The sourness can almost hide the alcohol content, but the telltale sticky sweetness on the endtaste conveys all the booziness of a good brandy. Would love to drink again.

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Photo of BierJager89
4.35/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a somewhat translucent brown into black in the glass. Utterly opaque. The head? What head? Just a a few brown bubbles.

S: On the surface, the nose contains notes of lemon, funky belgian yeast and citrus rind, but underneath… vanilla, brown sugar, oak, caramel. Very interesting.

T: Lemon, tangerine, grapefruit peel,, and funky belgian yeast come through first. Strong hints of sour cherry, peppery zinfandel and raisin, as well as oak, a touch of vanilla, oak and brown sugar. Maybe a hint of caramel, but this thing finishes crisp, tart, like lemon and grapefruit rind. On latter sips, more bourbon comes through, especially toward the end, lingering with the lemony tartness.

M: Full bodied, and extremely smooth. Flat, even. A bit too smooth.

O: Alcohol is somewhat apparent in the nose and flavor as well, but this is to be expected with a beer this strong, and it's quite well masked. I would recommend this beer. It is my favorite sour. I'd say have a few other sours first, get accustomed to it, and then try this beer. It's really good.

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Photo of Sarge3130
2.06/5  rDev -51.5%
look: 1.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Bad bottle?

Poured upside down from 2012 375ml bottle, zero carbonation.

Murky brown with smells of leather, tannin, vinegar.
First sip was similar to shoe polish, second was not much better, and there was no third. Bottle dumped down the drain.

I'm aware of the carb issues but this beer was undrinkable. I applaud the effort as I'm sure this beer took some time and effort to make but it was just awful. I usually gravitate toward Lost Abbey beers, and will continue too, but this one completely missed the mark for me.

I don't mean for this review to come off like total bash but if I give a beer less than an overall 2.5 rating, I feel the need to at least explain why.

I'd be willing to give this beer a second try if it was given to me, but I can't see myself paying for this again.

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Photo of cbutova
4.21/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

On-tap at Armsby Abbey just over two weeks ago in Worcester, MA. Always wanted to try this one and glad to see it on draft. Full notes taken day of review.

A- Poured from the tap to a goblet glass with a brown body that has some red hues around the edges. Light tan head forms to about one finger with decent retention. Frothy cap falls to a small ring leaving webs and some sheets of lacing.

S- Tart fruits and some acetic vinegar feel right off the bat with a decent brown malt backdrop like an Oud Bruin to me. Cherry with pits and all come to mind as well as toast oak, red wine and dark fruits.

T- Red tart fruits, vinegar and vinous characters carry over from the aroma to here. The barrel comes out some more with oak and a slight whiskey bite. Strong cherries but the other flavors balance it well. Lemons, barnyard funk, Belgian spiciness, toasted brown sugar, raisin/fig, Brett and some lactic acid round it out.

MF- Dried out lighter end body due to the Brett and other bugs. Texture is crisp with a slight foamy and silky feel. Higher end carbonation with a fairly warm finish from the 11%ABV. Nice sourness as well.

A mix of many different worlds but they come together to remind me of something between an Oud Bruin and a Kriek, aged in a Bourbon barrel. Pretty unique and a must try for sour and barreled beer fans.

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Photo of sourdog
3.93/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Looks like a flat cola. No carbonation.

S: Sour cherries & apples. Some oak and vanilla notes.

T: Bursting with sour cherry flavor. Nice sour/tart flavor. Leaning on the too sweet side. I wish there was carbonation to balance this out.

F: Light bodied. No carbonation which is a disappointment to me. It tastes flat.

O: Very nice flavor and I'm enjoying the tart cherry notes. Although this just doesn't do it for me without carbonation. It tastes flat. I appreciate it as a quality craft beer, but it's not my thing.

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Photo of vfgccp
4.54/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

2012 bottle, opened April 2014

A - Beautiful, slick and shiny Burgundy body. No head.

S - Really nice, unique nose. Chocolate covered cherries, tart vinegar, almonds, dust, and a touch of oaky booze.

T - Complex and bold. Big tart oak opening, dry cherry pits, tannins, red grape skins, dry bitter cocoa powder, crisp tart plums.

M - Dry, medium-light frame with nice legs. Drinks more like a Chianti than a beer.

O - Great integration on a really complex base. Really nice sour character; well balanced, and not overly acidic.

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Photo of seand
3.7/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours a slightly clear dark red with just a few bubbles of tan head.

S: Strong cherry, honey, and booze.

T: Highly tart cherry leading into strong brett dominated funk, finishing with the tart fruit along with a touch of alcohol. Somewhat vinous.

M: Medium to full body, nearly no carbonation.

Overall, interesting; the tart cherry is intense, and the overall flavor profile hits hard. It's drinkable if you like that kind of thing, though.

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Photo of KVNBGRY
4.07/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2013 bottle

Ap - Murky, ugly, flat, with all that is going on, it's expected. However, it's still ugly.

Ar - Cherry, orange, honey, sour(!!!) cherries, in that order.

T - Bourbon, red wine, and honey. A hint of sour cherries at the end.

M - Medium bodied, and dry. Very similar to a Cabernet.

O - Different, confusing, awesome. It's very complex and you get all the advertised flavors and nuances. I want to try this with a few years on it.

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Photo of MattSweatshirt
3.82/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Comes out looking almost flat with a few off white bubbles springing to life. The body is dark red-brown with ruby highlights popping in the light.

Big cherry presence on the nose that is sweet and sour. Raisin and red grape. Some vanilla and wood from the barrels. Mostly a fruity aroma. Touch of heat.

Lots of cherry and sweet flavors like the nose indicated. It's really not all that tart. Some heat on the swallow. Vinous with some dark fruits.

No carbonation is felt on the tongue. Comes off a little thin and lifeless because of the lack of carbonation. Feels like drinking a wine.

Great flavor on this but still falls a little short with the carbonation issues.

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Photo of tkdchampxi
4.69/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A: a mediocre 60% opaque beer that did not look particularly interesting poured into my 6 ounce snifter at the bar (6 ounce was the going serving size). A full, cloudy, muddy apple cider brown.

S: citrusy, sour smell with a yeast backbone that hinted at sour cherries and biscuity malt. Light, fruity, and refreshing

T: This is a delicious sour, with a sophisticated backbone and well-balanced malt presence. This is not the most tongue-numbingly sour beer I've ever had, but it is amongst the most complexly well-developed. It is a wonderfully tart, and somewhat sweet sour beer in the vein of well-baked lemon square - a little sour, a little sweet, and just enough bread to make it right.

M: well-carbonated with an acidic bite that complements the flavor. Something this tart deserves to be this bubbly.

O: a great sour from a great brewery. Need I say more? This is a perfect lemon square, limoncello dessert in a glass, even if the dull brown would suggest otherwise.

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Photo of nataku00
4.01/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle opened with a light pop, poured into a tulip glass. 2014 release. Beer pours a dark and hazy cola brown without any head. Minor lacing that slips quickly back into the beer.

Nose is sweet and sour cherries, raspberry, balsamic vinegar, acetic acid, light brown sugar and old oak.

Taste is tart red berry and cherry, acetic acid, sweeter balsamic vinegar and oak. Fairly drying on the tongue, lingering acetic acid and cherry flavors.

Medium body with little to no carbonation, a little syrupy on the tongue before a drying finish. The lack of carbonation is a bit disappointing.

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Photo of Beerswag
4.39/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at old towne pizza elk grove, ca

Poures into delerium tulip. Looks dark and slightly murky with tones of brown black and carmel. Not to sticky on the glass, light, and definately sour..taste is cherry and chocolate rounded out by a good malt presence, very light mouthfeel for a quad based beer..this beer puckers the toungue with fruity flavors such as cherry and citrus, with the hops displyed on the finish...airee and dry. Carbonation is medium, which I like to go with this dry beer..This is a great 11% barrel aged beer. Some sours just dont pack the abv, and I can't drink more than 22oz of "sour-beer", so this one boads well for me. This with pizza, sherp aged hard yellow cheese, salty food.

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Photo of Rick778
4.09/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

If I didn't know I was drinking a beer I would have thought it was a very dark strong wine. Lots of cherries, sour and a very slight bourbon after taste. The one thing it needs more of is carbination. There doesn't seem to be any, thats a big reason I would almost mistake it as a wine. But all and all it is an excellent Cuvee.

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Photo of buzzardman
3.75/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: Fruity mostly cherries, very light funk, hint of wood, maybe a slight bit of horsey brett, very slight hint of malt.

Appearance: Dark brown light hint of red, no head and no carbonation.

Flavor: Wow sour and tart cherries right the front, did not expect it from the smell. Sweet wine like, a lot like a Flanders red. The tart sourness drops off quickly after the first couple of sips. The nice tart sourness disappears quickly, I think some carbonation would definitely help keep that flavor going while drinking. No noticeable flavors from the bourbon barrel aging, but the wine barrel aging may be hidden in the wine flavors.

Mouthfeel: Big sour tartness first couple of sips, then quickly fades to more of a crisp plain sour tart. No noticeable alcohol.

Overall: Very wine like. Maybe aging the bottle would help build some carbonation, but after reading reviews of aged bottles it appears this will not help carbonation build. I really think some carbonation would help this beer a lot. Again no noticeable bourbon barrel flavor is kind of a let down, not a bad beer but not something I would want to try again especially for the price. Can definitely find something comparable to this from a real Belgian brewery for 1/3rd the cost of this beer. Bottle says brewed with old world and new world processes which to me means they probably took shortcuts to make it using new technology which could be why this beer just is not that good. $18 for 12floz

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