Veritas 001 | The Lost Abbey

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Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey
California, United States

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by ggaughan on 02-08-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 45 |  Reviews: 27
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3/5  rDev -27.4%

Photo of joel66
3.25/5  rDev -21.3%

Photo of SocalKicks
3.25/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of jrallen34
3.25/5  rDev -21.3%

Photo of satowns
3.39/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

finally entering notes after a year...

From Tomme: "A blend of 3 seperate oak aged beers with cherry beer. Cuvee is a component"

pours bright red with no head. very litle carbonation.

aroma is dominated by pungent oak. dark fruit. Hops are undetectible.

sour cherry upfront and arrogant. medicinal notes. soft sourness. tannins present. viscuous and lucious. very warming.

for a sour blend, the cherry overpowers the complexity hidden beneath. It would be nice to sit on this beer for a few years and let the cherry fade a bit.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -15.3%

Photo of BucketBoy
3.5/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Opens pretty flat, tart cherry touching on balsamic, light balsamic vinegar and a touch strawberry vinegar both in the nose and flavor. It's completely flat, gross brown color. As expected, a bit oxidize but not terribly. This is decent but nothing special - slightly Flanders-y, maybe Flanders light. The mead is almost completely lost, with a soft honey aftertaste that is its only sign. Tastes great on the novelty, really rarity. I am very thankful for the experience, Joel and Tomme.

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Photo of jophish17
3.5/5  rDev -15.3%

Photo of largadeer
3.73/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks, Dyan.

Murky, turbid, rust head. This looks pretty bad, 2/5 is being kind of generous.

Lots of tart cherry aroma, also some light acetic acid, raspberries, balsamic vinaigrette, a little dark sugar. Smells much better than it looks.

Tastes good too, plenty of tart cherry along with some oak, raisins, dark malts, a little acetic acid. Medium-bodied, pretty tasty but somewhat muddled. Some vinous notes toward the finish along with a hint of dark sugar. The combination of cherries and dark malt reminds me a whole lot of Cuvee de Tomme, but this beer isn't as refined. Carbonation is low, bordering on non-existent, to the beer's detriment. Good stuff, but not outstanding.

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3.75/5  rDev -9.2%

Photo of nickd717
3.83/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

What better beer for TICK #1001 than Veritas 001? None, I say! 750ml bottle very generously shared by dyan.

Pours a muddy, dirty reddish brown with minimal head. Does not look good at all.

The aroma is very nice with notes of Cuvee de Tomme, Red Poppy (i.e. cherries, funk, vinegar, wood), chocolate, -bal aging, and rarity.

The flavor is not quite as good. Some nice chocolate-covered cherry is in there, along with oak barrel and funk. Slightly acetic and not too sour.

Medium-bodied with sediment detectable on the palate and low carbonation (surprised?).

Good and interesting stuff, but I've had better from Lost Abbey. The best part about this one is the rarity.

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Photo of seaoflament
3.83/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Julian for contributing and sharing this beer at the SeaofFloydster Tasting on March 28th...I never thought I would get to try this beer.

Wow, quick someone give me your glass! We have a gusher! The first pour I got mostly foam and had to wait a few moments to actually see the color of the beer and pour myself a little more. Ok, after a second pour I can see the hazy dark orange color of the beer itself. A massive amount of head and some soapy retention and lacing.

The first aroma I picked up was a mixture of berries (cherries mostly with some cranberry and raspberry), then a slight metallic aroma in the background that wasn't too appealing. Light funk and tartness throughout with hints of grapes and a bit of apples. Not bad, very interesting.

Tasted like liquid, cherry flavored, sweet-tarts. The second half of the beer had some sweet apples and finished with a toasted malt sweetness. Good but not amazing, it was commented that this one might be going downhill already.

Medium-low carbonation on the palate, not as carbonated on the palate as the pour suggested, a tad syrupy.

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3.89/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a hazy crimson red with a foamy bone head that fades to nothing. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is sour with malt, grain, earth, wood, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with sour malt, fruit, funk, and wood flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is still quite tasty even with being pretty old at this point.

Serving type: bottle.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.89/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Dyan for bringing this all the way out to California for us - I'd given up looking for this one as there wasn't really much out there to begin with. Served in a tulip glass.

A - A hard pour yields a thin layer of big bubbles to dissipate quickly to an incomplete ring. The body is a purplish maroon color and appears very murky. Looks like juice - should probably get a lower score, but I don't see the sense in punishing the beer any more.

S - Cherry sourness, funk, oak, some other overripe (or even rotten) fruits. As it warms it gets woodier and a bit astringent.

T - Taste is pretty similar - sour cherry,oak, funky rotting fruits. There's a fairly heft malt backbone that imparts some brown sugar. Finish is very woody, and somewhat odd.

M - Very, very, low carbonation, very tannic, with a medium-thick body. Verges on syrupy.

D - Despite its flaws it is strangely compelling. Perhaps it was the puzzle of trying to relate it to Lost Abbey beers I've had before that kept it interesting. Might have been fun to have a couple more ounces, but this was something of which I'd have a hard time drinking a lot.

I'm not sure of the veracity of the blend info posted on various sites, but it was quite believable that this was a blend of Cuvee de Tomme, Redstone Raspberry Mead and Older Viscosity (with significantly less of the last). Still, it felt more like an end of the night drunken blending experiment than the polished brews found later in the series - perhaps this was better when fresh and/or carbonated.

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Photo of drewone
3.92/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Ineedabeerhere
3.99/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Wow thanks a ton for sharing this one Greg! Definitely one that I wouldn't have tried otherwise.

Pours really murky.. kind of a rubyish brown with some burnt orange mixed in at the edges, no head at all, but the cork required pliers to be removed...hmmm. A few bottles, but this is essentially pond water.

Definitely a good amount of cuvee de tomme in here... cherries are prominent. A little dirty spice. Kind of a slick taste from the lack of carbonation... a little muddled. Like a confused teenager. Cherry tartness with some other dark fruits (raisin from the cdt) mixed in. Woody and some residual sugar. Good tartness with a restrained spice character... it kind of comes across dirty and muddled with all the fruit that is here from the cdt and red poppy (assuming), and flatness doesn't help. Some red wine vinegar. Alcohol is well integrated. Glad to have had the chance but this one seems to be going downhill.

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4/5  rDev -3.1%

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4/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of DefenCorps
4.01/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I shared this with a few guys the other day. Many thanks to Alen (RIP) for this rarity

Hazy murky brown flat no head or lace. This is rather ugly. Nose has cherries, acetic acid and bourbon. The cherry is beautiful, whole ripe tart cherries. Some vanilla, there's plenty of oak and tannins. A touch of chocolate? Brown sugar. Wonderful.
The palate is decent. Not very well integrated. Sour cherry juice with white wine grapes, vanilla, moderate brown sugar. Plenty of sweetness. Mildly flabby, the tannins and sweetness clash and don't tighten up the finish. Mild bourbon. Moderate acetic acid. Medium bodied with low carbonation, there's a long finish with vanilla and brown sugar. Solid stuff. Reminds me of the Sinners 2008 in some ways.

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Photo of BDeibs
4.06/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of rallison
4.1/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Sea O'Floydster epic tasting, post PP Belgian Fest. Thanks Julian for bringing this bottle.

Apple, cider, cinnamon (this was likened appropriately to cinnamon apple pie)..fruity notes. A bit of funk and a bit of vinous qualities.

High carbonation and light on the tongue.

Interesting, not what I was expecting, but also not overly impressed, especially given the rarity.

Still have my bottle of this, but I am thinking I should probably open this in the next 6 months or so as I don't see it improving (excluding the possibility that 5-10 years works some miracles...hey, you never know).

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Photo of Floydster
4.1/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle brought to the SeaO'Floydster tasting by SacoDeToro, thanks for the opportunity Julian, one of our first beers of the night, poured into my Stone sampling glass

A-Reddish brown color, 1/2 inch thin off white bubbly head, not much retention, no lacing, mild legs
S-Lot of cherries, vinegar, grapes, cinnamon, sweet malts, red apples, mild tart, oak, and toasted bread
T-Starts off with a red wine-like flavor, cherries in the middle, mix of Red Poppy and Cuvee de Tomme almost, finish is slightly tart but also some spice in there, later on more fruit comes out and it gets sweeter, wish this had some more sourness in the blend
M-Slightly tart, sweet, and spicy mouthfeel, medium bodied, way too much carbonation, biggest problem with this beer, taste lasts a good amount of time
D-Could have a drank a lot of this, alcohol is hidden well, nice sour bite but too sweet sometimes, light overall somehow but unfortunately that showed through in the mouthfeel as well

My least favorite of the Veritas series, they actually seem to be getting better with each release, glad to have tried this interesting blend, do not see this improving with any more age though, still recommended

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Photo of gford217
4.19/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Massive thanks to alen for this beauty.

Pours super cloudy brownish amber with a collection of big bubbles along the top that recedes immediately and leaves nothing around the top.

The aroma is all about the tart fruits, raspberries and cherries especially, dipped in brown sugar. There is also a prominant oak character in the nose as well as the brett and lactic sourness I've come to expect in the LA sours.

The taste is still all about the tart cherries, Cuvee de Tomme coming out for sure, but dipped in a bit of chocolate. The brett comes out in the finish, leaves a dry, earthy zing at the end of each sip.

The mouthfeel is what I expected, given the look. It's very low carbonation, almost wine-like, with a definite oaky tannin character overall.

This is a solid sour but probably not my favorite of the series. It's largely the look and mouthfeel that are lacking and keep this one from being a world class beer for me.

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4.24/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hand bottled by yours truly during the Lost Abbey first annual barrel tasting party in August '07.

A- Reddish dark brown, a clear, dark liquid. No head at all.

S- Fruit, some cherry.

T- Sweet, finishes moderately sour. Has a light, yet sweet malt backing to this.

M- Pretty thin. More than you would think. Actually wrote "watery" down in my notes. The carbonation in this was very light, it could have benefited from a little more.

D- really good smelling and tasting beer. Would have liked it more with a higher carbonation level. I think that would have made it more interesting.

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4.25/5  rDev +2.9%

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Veritas 001 from The Lost Abbey
Beer rating: 4.13 out of 5 with 45 ratings