Veritas 003 | The Lost Abbey

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Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey
California, United States

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by BlindPig on 01-09-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 98 |  Reviews: 72
Reviews by Stoneman78:
Photo of Stoneman78
4.05/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at O'Brien's Pub 14th Anniversary Barrel-Aged beer night 1/15.
A- Dark red/orange hue, moderate off-white head quickly dissipates, minimal lacing
S- Rather subtle aromas, mostly dark fruits, sour apples, cherries, and some slight caramel malts
T- Taste is moderately sour fruits, transitions to woody and grass/earth tones, finishes with a balance of sweet and sour
M- Medium-bodied, thin and watery texture, low carbonation
D- A bit below expectations given the Veritas track record, very nuanced in terms of flavor, good balance, great drinkability (abv is probably around 10%), I would love to try this again in the future for a re-review because nothing stood out as exceptional in this first sampling

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Photo of joel66
3.5/5  rDev -18%

Photo of badbeer
4/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark red color with a beige head that doesn't last. Smell of strawberries, acetic acid, oak, and yeast. Taste is sour with fruity flavors, cherries, cherry pits, and oak. Not overly sour, just pleasant sourness with a strong amount of malt backing it up. Light body and high carbonation. Good beer, thanks to pepsican for sharing.

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Photo of Mora2000
4.42/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Glad I finally got to try this beer.

The beer pours a hazy brown color with a white head. The aroma is outstanding. I get a lot of tart cherries, with some oak and bourbon notes mixed in. The flavor is similar, but even more complex. I get a lot of tart cherries, oak, vanilla, whiskey, brown sugar and barrel characteristics. The tartness is about medium and compliments the flavor very well. Medium carbonation and medium aroma.

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Photo of olradetbalder
3.25/5  rDev -23.9%

Photo of IntriqKen
4.32/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Absolutely perfect for tonight.
I was looking for something moderately strong but not sweet.

Aroma hit me big time as the bottle gushed from being a bit warm. Fortunately I was ready for it being forewarned.
Oak..tons of woodiness...Oak barrel and sour cherries hit the nose immediately.

Taste is sour cherries and oak barrel.

Aftertaste is drying and sour...wonderfully drying with subtle cherry flavors.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.68/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Provided by me! Opened at a tasting 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a 1 finger quickly dissipating off-white, coarse head. Beer is a cloudy brownish-purple... like cherry infused mud water. No lacing to speak of.

S: Cherries, caramel, brown sugar sweetness, wood, and funk. There's a lot going on here but between the deep brown ale notes and the fruity esthers trying to fight their way through, I'm a little confused at what's going on.

T: Cherry, raspberries, citrus, chocolate, nuttiness, oak, and red fruit tartness throughout. A building booziness finally peaks its head towards the end. Finish is messy and leaves an aftertaste of slightly grainy nuttiness.

M: Medium bodied, good carbonation, and a bit rough around the edges. Coarse in the mouth but also oddly sticky at the finish. Aftertaste is messy and leaves ample flavor on the palate.

D: I'm honestly thoroughly dissapoint with this one. The alleged cuvee de tomme in this beer just completely dominates the experience and whatever else is in here just doesn't really have a chance to separate itself from the overwhelming flavors of that beer. This isn't bad by any means but its not all its cracked up to be at all. Not one of my more memorable sours by a longshot.

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Photo of prototypic
4.45/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Veritas 003 pours a deep reddish brown color. It's not opaque, but is rather hazy and has some yeast particles swimming about. Backlighting gives it an attractive scarlet hue. Carbonation looks to be active as it almost escaped the bottle after cork popped. It generates a light tan head that's about a finger and a half deep. It's very slow to recede. The motor at the bottom of my Sam Adams glass keeps things buzzing nicely. A fair amount of glass lingers on the glass.

The nose is very interesting. Initially, sour cherries are prominent. There are hints of apple and pear. Suffice it to say it's very fruity. The oak barrel aging imparts a strong oak or wood flavor scent. It smells delicious and had a very positive overall impact (on the nose at least). It has an interesting sherry quality to it. There's also some strong Brett evidence - musk and funk. I really like the interplay of the oak scents and funky Brett qualities. It works wonderfully well. Alcohol is noted, but doesn't seem altogether strong. 8% seems about right. This Veritas release is very deep, complex, and smells excellent.

The flavor profile is right on par with the nose. Fruit flavors of apple, pear, and sour cherries hit first. It's a little sweet, but the sour aspect takes charge after the initial sweet burst. I wouldn't say it's overly sour or mouth-puckering. But, it definitely leans in that direction. I'm unsure of what Lost Abbey beers were used in this blend, but one of them obviously had Brett in it. Its presence here is duly noted. It's a little musky and funky, but it adds just the right amount of that flavor. It's not overwhelming at all. I like that tame, somewhat tempered flavor here. It complements the fruit flavors and the oak flavors extremely well. Speaking of oak, it adds a lot of character to the overall flavor here. It's excellent. Alcohol is blended pretty well and doesn't seem too strong. It finishes sour and a little funky.

This Veritas release has a medium body that's smooth. It seems to become a little fuller with warming. However, carbonation is pretty active and is a tad buzzy. Drinkability is very high. The flavor is nothing short of excellent and it goes down far too easy. It might be a little strong at 8%, but it's far from scary. I'm splitting the 750, but would've gladly tackled it alone. That would've been no problem.

Tomme Arthur brews some damn fine beer at Lost Abbey. I'm still a fan despite the rash of recent criticism. Again, I'm unsure of what beers were blended to create Veritas 003, but whatever the combo was, it's a success. The flavor profile is very deep and complex. The oak barrel aging is an artistic touch that rounds it out extremely well. This is great beer. I suspect there aren't too many bottles floating around, but if you have the opportunity to try this out, jump on it. You sure as hell won't be disappointed.

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Photo of nickd717
4.37/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

What better beer for rating #1003 than Veritas 003? None I say! 750ml bottle via trade thanks to Sean9689, shared at a tasting featuring some of the world's premiere BARTs (barrel aged rarity tickers).

Pours cloudy brown in color with a well-formed light tan head that leaves a thick bubbly ring on the glass.

Aroma is toffee, red wine, leather, oak barrel, and funk. Smells very nice.

The flavor has a slight barleywine-like sweetness with caramel and toffee malt. There is a great dry -bal aged note with oak and vanilla as well as an awesome funky tartness. Really leathery. Rather vinous as well - lots of red wine.

Acidic on the palate with a good carbonation level and medium body.

A great beer overall, one of my favorites in the series so far (haven't yet ticked 002 or 005).

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Photo of MiScusi
4.65/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A- Dirty brown, light tan head, some floaties. Not explosive like some others' bottles. This one was opened straight out of the fridge, if pours with a lot of carbonation but nothing ridiculous.

S- Sweet, Belgiany smell, malt sweetness, cherries. As it warms up, red wine and molasses.

T- So sweet yet not close to cloying. Fruit sweetness.

M- Light in body. Lots of carbonation at first which is worked out easily as it is swirled. After that it goes down with a great feel.

D- The really nice, relatively lighter, malt sweetness combining with the fruit aspects make it go down so easy. Finishes fairly clean- does it's work and doesn't hang around too long. It took a few minutes for this one to really shine, but once you get the hang of it, man is it good.

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Photo of shbobdb
4.92/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Holy crap!

It's like DeProef decided to make a Flander's red. I mean one that doesn't suck. There is so much going on with this beer, that I really don't even know where to begin. I really think the Cuvee de Tomme really shows through, but there is a whole lot of the others present as well.

If I were to try and describe the taste of this beer, I would say that the bretty corpse-like flavor is dominant, but it is supported by a plethora of flavors. Roughly in order of their contribution, with the first three being more-or-less equal to the bretty corpse-like flavor: rotten apple, sour cherry, and dates followed by oak, vanilla, rosewater, and cherry pie filling.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more rosewater should be moved up on the list, maybe right after dates.

The beer has a nice sour finish, its sharpness mingles with the sweetness of the beer to produce a nice balsamic note.

Oh, and it pours an awesome shade of ruby. Really impressive. The carbonation helps buoy the whole experience, filling it out.

Look, I could go on-and-on, but this beer really defies words. There are so many layers of flavor going on here that I just sorta get lost along the way.


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Photo of GRG1313
5/5  rDev +17.1%

Photo of drowland
4.78/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by jtclockwork. Jan/Feb of 2011, I believe. Not quite clear shining ruby red color with a small off-white head. Funky aroma with a hint of cheese, sour, bourbon, and more. Big sour flavor with dark cherries, wood, more sour, bitter wood and bourbon, and general awesomeness. This stuff is amazing!

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Photo of claaark13
4.08/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks Johnfrompurdue. I figured I'd never see this one.

Pours somewhere between a ruby and light brown. Good head, good retention. Musty sour faded red wine grapes on the nose, slight oak. Taste shows soured old grapes, slight oak, little amount of sweetness and dryness balancing each other and neither really come through. Nicely carbonated and great on the palate.

I know this is supposed to have fallen off, but for not having it before it is a very well done AWA.

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Photo of akorsak
4.1/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 750 mL C&C bottle shared with Spacecoyote and several other BAs during Weyerbacher's Riserva release.

A: Much like Veritas 001, the ale is a dark woody brown color with a tan and ruby red head. Lots of carbonation is visible streaming in the glass. This one overflowed on initial opening.

S: The aroma is fruity, full of dark alefruits like black cherry, raisins and figs. Unlike 001, this one has no appreciable tartness.

T: Consistent with the nose, the funk from Veritas 001 is gone. In its place are black cherries, thick grains and candi sugars. The dubbel side shows off the candi sugars and beet sweetness. Black cherries are the provenance of CdT. The flavors are intense and bold, leaving the palate overstimulated. The lack of tartness is a welcome change from the sour line-up that we had heretofore.

M: The dubbel flavor is the unavoidable star of the beer, showing off the candi sugars and lots of raisins.

D: The complexity is amplified because there are no sour notes to hide behind. The raisins and black cherries are a great flavor within the beer.

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Photo of hoppymcgee
4.44/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split a bottle 4 ways with some great friends on 3/5/10. Poured into a Bruery tulip glass at room temperature.

A: Murky reddish/copper/dark brown with a surprising amount of carbonation from the pour which lingers around. A very "welcoming" looking beer.

S: Exceptional! Cherries, raspberries, oaky "wet" wood, and a tinge of caramelly booze invigorate your nostrils.

T: An immediate sensation of lemon, followed by wood that's sat in a pile of hay, and tart cherries. This finishes funky and has the essence of orange peel when you lick your lips afterwards.

M: Carbonation does not really "hit" you when swallowed. It more notably spreads and covers your palate for a pleasant drinking experience.

D: Nothing is too overbearing about this beer. At the most it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

Overall, I was very impressed although I can't say I've tried any of the other Veritas. Let me tell you now - this stuff goes straight to the dome!

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.95/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A very big thanks to the kind BA who arranged this trade with me. I have been hunting this one down for a very long time and I have to admit, it feels pretty damn good to be crossing this one off the list. Served cold, to avoid a gusher and poured into my terrapin snifter, this one was consumed on 12/12/2008.

The pour was a work of art, seriously I could not have asked for anything better here. Rich dark brown with a nearly opaque color to it. Large off white head of foam creeps down the sides as you sip, never really letting the head die down and keeping this looking like a monster the whole time, perfect.

The aroma, holy shit, this is what I wanted tonight. Funky, funky tart notes just ripping through the air. Rich, deep, and loaded down with hints of dark fruit, light oakey notes as it warmed, but mostly a sour apple like smell that really dominated. Though I have to admit as it mellowed out some light notes of sweetness started to come through.

Then I took a taste and I died and went to sour heaven. Rich notes of raisins and plums, interlaced with huge sour notes and delicate flavors of vanilla and pears. Wonderful balance between sweet and sour here, with a perfect play on flavors. Even as it warmed, it was just intensely good. I was floored by this. As I type it has been a few minutes since my last sip and this wonderful candy like flavor is just swirling around on my tongue. Rich feel here, wonderfully carbonated, though not over the top, smooth, rich and lasting feel was just what the doctor ordered. Immensly sippable, this is what I wanted this to be.

Very seldom does a beer live up to expectations, this beer blew them away. I was floored. One of the best beers I have had in a very long time, and really just dominant in every way.

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Photo of FreshmanPour77
4.5/5  rDev +5.4%

Photo of scottoale
4.85/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml. cork finished brown bottle with handsome Veritas Labels and 03 sharpied on the cork. A powerful but controlled pop of the cork...this brew is ready to escape. Ultra lively, Brett affected carbonation is bursting with energy. It pours a dark, almost brown, orange-amber into my Duvel tulip. The head rises rapidly to two, frothy inches of tan foam with some dark cinnamon crust sprinkled lace... very sticky.

The nose is sweet followed by immediate tartness of malt, cherries, vanilla, oak and earth. The Bretts seem to be working overtime, doing some twisting and adding dimension to smell of this wonderfully blended concoction.

The flavor starts lightly sweet with some nice malty notes that get enveloped with some nice sour cherries. From there the tartness continues with additional flavors of plum, fig, date, oak, vanilla, earthiness and cinnamon. The flavor is very complex with different things popping in and out every sip. Amazing and unique at this still early stage of ageing.

Although the ABV is 8.0 as listed on the label, I'm thinking this version is upwards of 10% with it being very well hidden taste wise. Full body with tartness and long lasting aftertastes that vary in flavor. Wow. Very drinkable and tasty now...can't wait to see what a little more age will bring to this fine blend. Cheers!

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Photo of largadeer
4.31/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle generously shared by cpferris. Thanks, Chad.

The pour is a beautiful clear mahogany, in the glass it's dark but strikingly clear, topped by a billowing frothy head that's fed by a torrent of carbonation.

Brown sugar, cherry pie, bourbon and sour dark fruit hit the nose first, with further inspection revealing a bit of mustiness, funk and oak.

Dark fruit and caramel meet tannic oak on the tongue, both sour and sweet with a big oaky backbone. I detect flavors of raisin, tobacco, bourbon and red wine. The body is medium, almost full, but the high carbonation helps to cut the heft of the body, making for a surprisingly refreshing beer. Another excellent blend from Lost Abbey.

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Photo of oline73
4/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Another bottle shared by Tomme and crew. Poured into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a reddish amber color with just a ring of off white head.

Smell: Sweet and tart with some cherries and funk. I'm getting some brown sugar sweetness from the malt.

Taste: Brown sugar notes from the malt right off the bat. Tart fruit notes along with some funk. The cherries are nice with the sweet and sour flavors. The finish is sour and a little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy, tingly carbonation and a slick finish.

Overall: This is a complex beer. The tartness is rather smooth. I really enjoyed the malt sweetness combined with the sour flavors.

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Photo of weeare138
4.82/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appears a dark, nearing opaque, haze of mahogany with a small, off white head that slowly fades out. Scattered streaks of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of tart cherries, vanilla, bourbon, caramel, toasted nuts, sesame seeds, and mild vinegar notes.
Taste is of the aromas with standout cherries, vanilla, and bourbon rising to the forefront of the complex formula.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, sweet, tart, with cherries bouncing along the palate.

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Photo of FtownThrowDown
4.55/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Heard this was a gusher so I chilled it down pretty well before opening. Had no problems popping the cork, everything went smooth as can be. Pours light gold in color with a very nice fluffy head. Plenty of tartness and sour tones in the taste. Besides the tartness, there's a nice floral aspect to the beer as well. Light and carbonated in the mouthfeel. The Cuvee de Tomme is the dominant beer in this blend right now. Very good and a joy to sip. Easily the best beer of the night.

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Photo of pepsican
4.23/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice ruby brown pour with a tan head. Aroma was strong fruit, caramel, and an inviting sour aroma. Flavor had even more tart fruit, lots of apples and pear. The brandy, oak, and vanilla kick in about midway through from the angels share. Some caramel and more sour funk round this out. 10% abv my ass. Finished sour and dry

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Photo of VAbdoyan
5/5  rDev +17.1%

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Veritas 003 from The Lost Abbey
Beer rating: 4.27 out of 5 with 98 ratings