The Lost Abbey

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Belgian Saison
Ranked #468
Ranked #7,539
3.97 | pDev: 9.07%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Very Good
Notes: Farmhouse style Saison with Brettanomyces, Amarillo and Simcoe Hops.

Brewed in celebration of Lent and Easter season, Carnevale is light bodied Saison, using Brettanomyces along with Amarillo and Simcoe hops to generate flavor and depth. Carnevale’s complexity grows with time. The citrus notes tend to wane and the wild yeast rears its wonderfully tasting head.

2008 (first release) did not have brettanomyces.
Reviews: 333 | Ratings: 855
Photo of sskahanda
3.63/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A: Hazy Orange with slight cloudiness

S: Citrus and yeast are the most prevalent

T: Really smooth finish, slight bitterness at the end, can taste some of the spiciness from the pepper

M: Slight Carbonation, creaminess

O: First time trying a beer of this sorts. I liked the taste of Saison and this beer does not fail to uphold to the others that I have tried. I will definitely purchase another bottle of this beer when given the chance.

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Photo of ClavisAurea
4.15/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap served in a tulip glass.

Appearance: turbid orange with a pale white head

Nose: citrus, malty sweetness, fruity notes with a Brett driven farmhouse tang and funk.

Taste: crisp and refereshing, tart and rangy fromvthr Brett at bottling, chorus, pear, orange zest, well carbonated from the tap.

Overall: this is my first beer from the Lost Abbey. I think it's a great saison and would like to try it with some age to let the funky Brett flavors develop.

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Photo of spacecake9
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Lost Abbey Teku glass.
A - Pours a hazy golden orange. White soapy head that sticks around and some lacing.
S - Aroma is citrus and yeast.
T - Tastes like a Belgian ale with a peppery bite, a little sour and a slightly bitter finish. No citrus at this point.
M - Dry, light body with a fair amount of carbonation.
O - Very good saison with a little twist. This bottle is almost a year old now and is tasting just like they said it would.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.86/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

On tap at Lost Abbey in San Marcos, CA.

A- Medium golden-yellow body, orange hued. One finger white head, plenty of retention and lacing.

S- Citrus- orange, lemons- a bit of grainy funk, peppercorn, coriander. Nice, clean and crisp aromas.

F- Peppercorns, a bit less of the citrus on the palate, grainy malt, a bit of leather and hay but not a significant amount.

M- Light bodied, moderately carbonated. Dry, mild bitter citrus finish. Nice and drinkable.

O- Decent saison that is drinkable and tasty. The citrusy hops work well with the brettanomyces here.

Final score: 3.85

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Photo of laituegonflable
3.95/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a light orange colour, steady bead. Head is very whispy, clumpy and disappointing, just leaving a few bubbles on the glass. Interesting, but not VERY interesting.

Smells Bretty and earthy and interesting. Funny kind of honey-soy savoury character, with a touch of chilli. Mostly funky barnyard though, touch of acidity; some lime, maybe even a touch of smoke. Really, very beautiful smell. Mango on the edge. It keeps presenting new stuff to me! Gorgeous.

Taste is kind of a crash back to earth. It's not bad, but it just seems generic after the vista of possibilities raised by the aroma. Saisony, with some phenolic, medicinal notes - touch of copper on there as well - some white pepper, white peach skin, wet lucerne and horse blanket bitterness late. Pretty nice, but wow that smell was something else, and this is just...something.

Little thin, but a bit of pull possibly from yeast and carbonation adds texture. Doesn't quite fill the mouth.

Nice spring saison. Tastes like there's a bright golden haze on the meadow.

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Photo of SD-Alefan
4.23/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured from the corked and caged bomber into a tulip glass.

Flows into the glass a cloudy and lovely orange-gold with lots of bubbly, foamy head that dissipates into some lovely Belgian lace all down the glass.

The aroma is wonderful: The great Belgian yeast as well as some nice fruitiness, a hint of pepper and bread and a nice underlying funk.

This beer tastes great! Love the up-front character of the big Belgian yeast as well as the fruit tastes: peach, apple, a little pear and a bit of sweet orange. Also a nice farmyard funk underneath and a very nice lingering bitter that, I'm assuming, comes from the American hops. Very crisp and tasty. A hint of warming alcohol as well.

Overall, I think this is a wonderful Saison that I would be happy to drink again.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.02/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a slightly hazed golden straw color with white head and plenty of lacing. The aroma is full of yeast driven esters giving off both fruity, winesque and earthy aromas. Some hay, bread, not too much funk but undeniably Belgian in nature.

The taste follows suit with an earthy, bready character, a touch of spice, but mainly a very expressive Belgian yeast strain. Borders on tart but never really gets there. Medium bodied, highly carbonated feel. Overall, this is a really solid Belgian style ale.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.06/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

750ml brown corked and caged bottle purchased from BevMo in Sunnyvale, CA. Brought back to Sydney where I cracked it with Sam and Chris during a brewday.

Pours a bright yellow-golden colour, with solid hazing and a crackling, aerated head that foams itself out of existence pretty quickly. A fine mesh of white lace lingers atop the glass. Body is light and fluid. Carbonation is fine. Looks pretty good overall.

Nose is clean and bright, with some crisp funk that doesn't really get earthy or horsey. Some peach character comes through with a sweetness that reminds me a little of clipped grass. High carbonation is also noticeable here until it runs out of steam. Overall, it's a very pleasant nose though.

Taste is clean and bright, but certainly sweeter than many saisons. The peach character again runs through from middle to back, giving a slightly jammy character on the finish. Beyond this is a hint of pepper, and on the front is the earthiness of the funk that never really expressed itself fully on the palate. Alcohol is very well hidden—American saisons can often feel a little blunt, which allows the booze to show a little more, but there's none of that here.

Feel is great. Smooth but bright.

Overall, this is a really drinkable, and very enjoyable saison. There's a cleanness to the funk, and a smoothness from the additional sweetness. The peach character is what sets it apart, and it's a fine character for a saison. Very nice indeed.

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Photo of beerviews2013
4.45/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

pour: got a murky golden color liquid with a soapy thick foam head. This reminds me of a belgium style brew just by the pour you can tell.

smell: you get a sweet smell that is quite lovely.

taste: a nice blend of sour sweet and spice. More sweet then anything this is a nice brew by lost abbey. There is a nice fruitiness that is on this beer that makes it easy to drink and being a 6.5 abv its always good to make it easy to drink.

Overall: The spice is really nice on this not too harsh where it kills the taste just a nice smooth brew all the way through.

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Photo of hopsputin
4.13/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

a: hazy bright burnt orange with some buttery looking notes making it look extremely smooth. large 4 finger bubbly, frothy bright white head

s: earthy grains, green pears, coriander, nice spicy Belgian yeast, white grapes, and some nice funk to round it out

t: i pick up the fruit and slight funk right away. pears, white grapes and apples. sweet lemongrass. quite a big malt presence in here - sweet caramel. ends with those refined earthy grains. at the very back of the tongue i pick up some bitterness, can't nail down from what. it feels earthy, like a tea leaf

m: medium with a lot of carbonation. really fizzes in your mouth, and you feel it in your belly

o: first thing i noticed when tasting was that i wished it had the same spice presence in the flavor as it had in the nose. some coriander in the flavor would have really made this pop. all the flavors in here are nice, and this is a seriously good drinker - would have just like some spice & some more funk to harmonize the sweet green fruits. that being said, this is still quite delicious

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Photo of BucannonXC5
3.87/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Type: 750ml bottle (25.4 oz.)
Glass: Stone Ruination IPA pint glass
From: Costco in in Mission Valley (San Diego), Calif.
Price: $6.64
Purchased: May 12, 2014
Consumed: May 12, 2014
Misc.: Cork and twist

Poured a golden, straw, hazy color with five fingers of bubbly, foamy, white head. A few lines of bubbles coming up from the bottom on sides of the glass. Minimal lacing along the sides of the glass. Minimal retention.

Smelled a plethora of flavors. Got sour fruit, banana, kiwi, apple, grape, caramel, honey, bubblegum, floral hops, peppery spice and melon.

Tasted pretty close to the smell. Got sour fruit, apple, grape, kiwi, honey, caramel, slight butterscotch, Belgian spices and lemon grass.

Light body. Oily texture. Average-to-lively carbonation. Fruity finish.

A good Saison for sure. I’d have it again.

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Photo of Flounder57
4.03/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass at Estelle's in Boston.

Appearance: A one finger head was poured that reduced to a thin layer. It is a hazy pale yellow with some clarity of bubbles coming up through the glass. Super nice lacing on the glass as the beer was drank.

Smell: Pepper, yeasty, vanilla, bready, a little funk, and citrus.

Taste: Same as above with a little bitterness and tart notes.

Mouthfeel: Dry, light bodied, medium to high carbonation, a little chewy, mild bitterness, and delicious

Overall: Pretty solid Saison with a little funk and tart to it. I dig it.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.74/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

650 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Hazy pale orange yellow. Medium white head. Thin layer of foam.

Smell - Bretty. Bright fruity esters. A bit of stone fruit. Lots of pale malt. Peppery.

Taste - Fruity. Peachy. Pale malt. Earthy brett. Mild bitterness and some white pepper.

Mouthfeel - High carbonation. Earthy bitterness along with the bright fruitiness.

Overall - Nice juxtaposition of flavors.

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Photo of Nugganooch
4.06/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml C&C bottle split two ways – GF Le Freak Tulip glass for me
Notes taken on 03/14/14

A: Saffron yellow body clouded with a bit of yeast haze. Plenty of carb produces a billowy mass of course khaki suds that slips down to a chunky thick halo. Large globules of stick run down the glass.

S: Fragrant banana like esters on the nose with some fruity bubblegum, spices, and freshly sliced golden fruits. Pear and crisp apples come to mind. Lightly sweet with some earthy musk and a bit of alfalfa but not particularly Brett forward. No funk here at least. Smells like a solid Belgian to me with its pronounced yeast and peppery spice notes.

T: Fresh golden fruit with a mild tartness, dry grass, and cracked peppercorns give way to some really bright citrus underpins. Yeast is incorporated nicely with the bubblegum and spice. A light honey cracker malt base provides some supple sweetness and good counter balance to the other flavors. Floral hops lead to a finish of some earthy mineral like qualities but nothing about this screams funk. It’s a more restrained use of the Brett like Rayon Vert. Very smooth and dry with alcohol completely disguised. Crisp and flavorful yet simple in its approach. Totally refreshing.

M: Light to moderate body. Frothy feel with an upper level of prickly carbonation. Very dry in the finish as to be expected with the style. A nice clean retreat in the end.

D: Better than I was expecting. I am not big on Saisons in general so I often passed up on this one but this is darn tasty and incredibly refreshing. Very well done with good balance sans some of those sharp smoky phenols many Saisons can produce.
Drinks more like a hoppy Trippel if you ask me…which is probably why I am digging this.

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Photo of FitnessForBeer
4.65/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bomber served in a snifter glass

A: perfect straw colored beer, cloudy. large head, lots of carbonation coming from the bottom
S: barnyard funk, light hop. lighter malty bready smell. i think pilsner malts, not positive. Lots going on in it.
T: I think this tastes exactly how a saison should taste. Sweet, funky, fruity, spicey. Theres just sooo much going on and it blends so well.
M: Good, very refreshing, high carbonation like all bottled conditioned saisons
O: Love this saison, one of my favorites for the reason it is strictly just a simply brewed saison nothing extra. Everything that comes through in the flavor and smell is from the yeast doing its marvelous job.

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.56/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours half finger of head on a clear light golden colored body.
The aroma is smokey applesauce, soap, lemon and pear all mixed up in a nice way.
The taste is sharp, approaching bitter. Retains bright fruit: apple and pear.
Crisp texture with moderate carbonation.
Pleasant and enjoyable.

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Photo of TheMultiYeast
4.05/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The first pour was nearly clear yellow with a big pillowy head. The last pour was opaque, swimming with yeast.

A pleasant fruitiness dominates the nose. Apple and pear, rich malt, slight vinegar-brett-funk.

Rich complex malts in taste, hints of citrus, ripe juicy pear, brett-funk and concrete dryness.

Extraordinary carbonation, better than champagne. Juicy, with a very long dry finish.

Excellent farmhouse ale from Tomme and the Abbey.

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Photo of jlindros
3.89/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to rudzud for sharing, 2009 vintage when it was with Brett.

Light fizzy foamy head covering, light lacing, mostly clear golden honey color.

Nose nice golden ale to start, sweet like golden malts, light fruity esters like golden apple, light peppery yeasty touch, mild Brett funk, with an almost creamy, hint citrus lemon zest,

Taste mild Brett very little, mood horse hair funk, golden apple light fruity ester, hint peppery yeast, nice honey character, light sweet honey malt and golden malt character. Mild grassy bitterness, nectar like flavors. Finish is dry and bit of floral hop, more golden apple and honey light sweet malt lingering.

Mouth is med to lighter bod, lighter but decent enough carb.

Overall not bad but very little Brett. Age didn't seem to do much.

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Photo of rudzud
3.89/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2009 vintage. Picked this up at Russell's back when Chris was there. Shared with JLindros.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a very nice crystal clear dark golden hue with a nice half finger head that fades to light thin wisps.

S - Aromas of light malts, green apple, light funky brett that is very mild. Faint black pepper notes.

T - Taste is light honey sweetness, sweet malts, faint apples, very light funk and brett notes, sweetness is more than I expected. Dry finish.

M - Mouthfeel is nicely carbonated after these years, crisp dry finish though a bit sticky honey in the middle.

O - Overall, this was a fun beer, the brett is a bit too soft for me. Still, nice to see where this beer goes.

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Photo of utopiajane
4.19/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours splendidly the color of earthly fire.l Golden with an orange hue. Pastel and lit from deep within itself. It glows softly with a soft head of white foam that falls very slowly to a rocky cap and ring, a layer on top and leaves scads and gobs of lace in rings and sheets all over the glass.

Nose is perfection. Fresh wet hay. damp and earthy. Brett and barnyard. Dry and funky. Subtle sweetness from the light grain and a nice light bread. Rich with yeast and a few stone fruits to tempt with their sweetness. Citric and tart, Subtle clove and pepper.

Taste is just what you want when you say to yourself I think i want a saison today. it's tart with a rush of citrus to greet the palate. Stone fruit sweetness , dry lemon grass, and light honey just behind that. Then, some bitter and pungent herbs. Oregano comes to mind. Delightful! It makes you want to exclaim! Grain that is light but raw and unyielding. It keeps it's wholeness. Soft creamy body that is firm and crisp and dry. Clove accents the stone fruits and the aftertaste is bright and light and seemingly unending.

Oh! This is one handsome beer. it tempts your eye and then sates the palate with a subtle complexity that is made up of herbs and lemon zest. Drinks forever and then it's done. Just like summer.


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Photo of jbaker67
3.93/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours pale golden yellow with a large soapy white head. Smells like hay with a bit of citrus and solid barnyard funkiness. Taste is a bit dry with some mild bitter citrus and hay funk and a subtle touch of sweetness behind it all for balance. Medium-bodied with a crisp texture and active mouth-carbonation, Lost Abbey Carnevale finishes wtih a drying, almost woody sensation.

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Photo of KFBR392
3.79/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

2012 Vintage

Appearance: Pours with a massive bubbly head which is retained while drinking. Light golden color with a lot of active carbonation in the glass while drinking. Murky body to the brew.

Smell: Really bright yeast character with a subdued but active brettanomyces. Really sweet butterscotch, dough, and prairie grass. Earthy straw aroma keeps this aroma down to earth. Bright carbonation and sweet hops finish it off. Light and very interesting.

Taste: The bright active carbonation hits the palate right away. Tones of straw, funky brett, and yeast warm up on the body. The body transforms into a very earthy palate heavy feeling. The finish is slightly dry with accents of juicy bright hops.

Mouthfeel: I was hoping for a little more of a wild yeast feeling. But overall the hop presence is very good which a rich yeast body.

Overall: A very solid brew. The brettanomyces add a nice extra level in the aroma mainly with some accents on the taste. Maybe with some more time the yeasty funkiness will come out some more.

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Photo of morimech
4.27/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear golden color with a massive meringue type head that was slow to settle. Heavy lacing is left down the glass.

This beer is brewed with Brett? Find that hard to believe from the bottle I am drinking. What I do get is something that smells like a Belgian beer. From the way the malt and yeast combine to give a pleasant vinous, dry malt, spicy aroma. This could of come from St. Bernardus or Dupont.

The flavor is likewise pleasant. The brewer treated the yeast right. This tastes Belgian. While many American attempts makes a beer that tastes like cardboard or a paper sack, this is just right. The right amount of spicy phenols but mostly just fruity esters. The malt provides a solid foundation for the yeast qualities. Finishes with a little alcohol flavor and warmth.

The body is the least impressive part of the beer. Has a slick, oily feel that I find a bit unpleasant. A little bigger than medium body.

Overall an impressive beer even though I do not detect any Brett qualities.

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Photo of smcolw
3.66/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Huge first head. Settles slowly with lots of lumps. Leaves chunky lace on the glass. The liquid is quite cloudy with an orange hued, dirty gold color.

The smell is a blend of raw grain and subtle spices of clove and oregano(?). I like the softness of the aroma; there's nothing about this that is in your face.

The flavor begins with raw grain flavor. Not as sour as most Saisons. Strong black pepper finish. This is an easier Saison than most to drink. There's nothing over-the-top about this except the long aftertaste. The body leans to the thin side like most of this style. The carbonation is very high.

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Photo of tut2528
3.93/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

A: pours a dense gold with a massive 2-3 fingers worth of head formation that settles down into a monstrous fluffy head that is about 1 fingers worth thick.

S: right off the bat, I notice just how well balanced this brew is and its high end complexity. lemon zest, banana, musty attic funk, wet wood, peppery spice, and some sharp floral aroma that I can't seem to pinpoint

T: nowhere near as complex as the nose. big funkiness is the dominate player and it lasts all the way through to the the finish. big pepper and spices in the middle of the body that is held together by a sweet malt note. there is a slight touch of fruit here, but its note much

M: medium bodied, acidic, crisp, bitter, an extremely dry finish. the palate is left with overwhelming funk note.

O: this one let me down. thought the appearance and the smell was terrific, but it completely misses the mark in my book on the mouthfeel.

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Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 855 ratings