Veritas 008
The Lost Abbey

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Wild Ale
3.87 | pDev: 16.54%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
Very Good
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CityofBals from Illinois

3/5  rDev -22.5%

Sep 12, 2013
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4/5  rDev +3.4%

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drabmuh from Maryland

3.18/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Transferred from my TEA review, I deleted the other review

Tomme told me that this was his attempt at an alcoholic Arnold Palmer, isn't the point of an Arnold Palmer that it was non-alcoholic? It's kind of like naming a dessert after BB King (he's diabetic).

Beer is yellow and really hazy with a soft white head that is thin and leaves some lacing on the glass.

Smells like lemons and ice tea...oh god, what is going to happen next.

This beer is thinner than water, if that's possible. Its very grassy, lemony, lots of tea leaf flavors in the midpalate. Very strong overall. It really does taste like lemonade and tea. Its interesting but its not great.

Mar 21, 2011
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emerge077 from Illinois

3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bunzfest2012: Make it so... Thanks Patrick for sharing!
Quick review from written notes, served in a mini-tulip glass.

Spotty lace around the edges, good coverage on the surface. Body is a hazy gold, looks a bit like carbonated lemonade.

Big lemon and lime zest in the aroma, fresh and fruity with a hint of citrusy tartness.

Tart citrus flavors, lemony with a light effervescent dry feel. Crisp and clean, zesty carbonation with a citrus forward flavor. Good rendition of an Arnold Palmer, though a little bit one dimensional. Not especially funky, it was highly attenuated. Definitely refreshing to sip around noon on a saturday in the mid-80's.

May 22, 2012
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TurdFurgison from Ohio

1.93/5  rDev -50.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 1.5

Thanks to Sean9689 for bringing this to a post-Jackie O's tasting. As expected from the loud pop from the cork, this was a gusher. At least it was a slow gush, we saved all the beer. Unfortunately it wasn't very good beer to save.

It looks good enough, light colored to the point of looking like a wit, adequate initial foam with a lasting film, etc. But the smell. Medicinal and a little rot. It improves a little, only a very little bit, as it sits and warms, but it smells completely wrong. I recently tried Mikkeller It's Alive and would probably place that as the best comparison.

Not much redeeming in the flavor, maybe the slightly sweet yet acidic bite in the after-taste was pleasant enough. Otherwise I taste chemicals and medicine, things I generally don't like. I can't overstate how disappointing this was, it's kind of shocking that it was even offered for sale in this condition.

Great carbonation, terrible flavor.

Thanks Sean!

Dec 04, 2010
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cbanker from California

5/5  rDev +29.2%

Nov 15, 2011
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DenverLogan from Colorado

4.88/5  rDev +26.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Yellow with signification cloudiness...little white head. Rich, spritzy and refreshing flavor with nice apricot, grape, apple but none too strong. Slight tea notes...perhaps chamomile or a citrus blend. I'm sitting with 10 other tasters and we didn't experience some of the nastiness written by others with this particular bottle...oh well!! Really lovely body and very of my favorite sours!

Sep 05, 2011
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ygtbsm94 from Utah

3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Apr 16, 2012
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JAXSON from Pennsylvania

4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a straw gold with a white head. Nose is funky brett, citrus, and an earthy tea like element. Mouth is heavy on the lemon and tea notes, sour, slaty, earthy. Once you understand that what you're tasting is black tea it's very pleasant. Otherwise it may come across as pretty weird. Pleasant and refreshing, probably underrated for its apparent flaws, which is something I don't often say about Lost Abbey.

Sep 25, 2011
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drewone from California

4.25/5  rDev +9.8%

Jun 18, 2014
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largadeer from California

3.78/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle at Toronado.

Hazy straw-hued body with a lasting half-inch of frothy head.

Really funky nose, a ton of bretty barnyard, a little sulfur, a lot of lemon. Strangely herbal (thyme?) with a definite tea character that's not particularly offensive.

The palate is pretty decent. Mild lactic sourness up front, a lot of lemon flesh tartness along with mild lemon rind tannin, slight pale grain flavors, some phenolic funk and a rather integrated and unobtrusive tea flavor. Strange but pretty good.

Feb 15, 2012
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mikesgroove from South Carolina

3.19/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

had to try this obe for myself so traded for a bottle knowing i might not get the winning end of the trade but i have to admit it was not the horror story it could have been, poured into a snifter.

nice golden pour with a good cloudiness and a nice and mellow head of white lacing that nicely capped the glass. but as i reach in for a smell things start to get, well interesting. i am not sure what this is really, it was astringent, metallic and floral at the same time, i dont really know or sure what it was or was supposed to be but citrus and metal and cherries? a bit better as i took the first sip. thankfully it was ot as odd, though it still struggled to find a home of any kin. tart and sour, with vinegar and apples coming though, still a strange offness to it, but it settled out as it warmed and got much cleaner, sour an dry finish rounded it off.

overall it was all of the place, a mess to the nose, but confusing on the palate. i think i lost this trade

May 07, 2011
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HopHead84 from California

3.7/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5


On tap at the 2010 Lost Abbey Barrel Party. 

A: Appears hazed golden with a nice frothy egg shell head.

S: Light musty and wet leather notes, lemon, oak, and a little tea. This smells pretty nice. Perfume aromatics are strong. The tea character is less herbal and better integrated here than it was in the Arnold Palmer TEA, and a huge improvement over the TEA 1 that was at the TEA Party.

T: Zesty lemon, oak, tannins, earth, and light funk. The herbal tea character has really been dialed back here, and makes the beer less astringent, more refreshing, and much more enjoyable.

M: Upper light body with upper moderate carbonation. The mouthfeel is dry and slightly creamy with some tannic notes.

Overall: I had a grimace on my face as I lifted the glass to my lips, memories of its two predecessors (Arnold Palmer and TEA 1) scorched into my brain, but the grimace faded after that first sip. I found this to be refreshing and enjoyable. This is much better than the rough versions that came before it, the main difference being that the herbal tea character is much softer, rather than blasting the palate with herbal and astringent notes. Certainly not the best of the Veritas series, but not bad like I expected.

Nov 14, 2010
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yourefragile from District of Columbia

3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Jan 16, 2013
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MasterSki from Canada (ON)

2.45/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Thanks to Overlard for the hookup. Served in a Chouffe tulip.

A - Gusher alert, although this one moves pretty slowly compared to Veritas 006. Pours with two fingers of soapy foam that settles to glass-clinging lace and a thin cap. The body is a hazy peach color.

S - Diaper, baby vomit, sweat, some vague lemon and tea notes. Very weird, and extremely off-putting. It gets a little better when it warms up, revealing more sweetness, but it's a challenge to find the positive qualities amongst the awful ones.

T - Taste is better, with more lemon puree and faint tea notes. Not as much diaper thankfully, but a terrible vitamin finish.

M - Slimy, some zesty carbonation. Dry tannic, tea-like finish (surprise!). Odd, but not horrible

D - I tried a second pour to see if this improved after it warmed up a bit. It got slightly better, but not enough to keep me from pouring the second glass down the drain to join its brethren.

UPDATE: Had this again at the Toronado in February 2012, and it was moderately improved - more of a B- sort of beer.

Dec 06, 2010
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t0rin0 from California

4.25/5  rDev +9.8%

Dec 12, 2012
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DefenCorps from Oregon

4.4/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks, Matt/CJ! I loved this.

Hazy light yellow with a dense, white head with excellent retention and lacing, this was the best-looking beer of the night. The nose is bright, and fruity with a blend of mango, citrus and stone fruit. The black tea lends a moderate flavor and some bitterness, but the blend is excellent. Very fruity (I've underlined very in my notes) with ripe, fleshy, pulpy oranges. A little vanilla is noticeable too.

The palate is over-carbonated, but otherwise, very tasty. Black tea notes up front with bright citrus make for a refreshing beer. This is a brilliant riff on a witbier - bright, fruity, spicy and unique with the citrus notes lending an exceptional structure on which the flavors are layered. Sourness is light, mildly lactic. Exceptional structure and balance here, this beer is very refreshing and comes with high recommendations, despite the poor scores.

Fans of the Zwanze 2010 should check this out. IMO, this beer stays true to the Veritas lineup in being experimental, and actually nicely done.

Jul 02, 2012
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jophish17 from Georgia

2/5  rDev -48.3%

Dec 27, 2011
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gford217 from Georgia

3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to a generous CA trader for this bottle.

Pours a hazy golden yellow with a huge white head that's really rocky with lots of bubbles feeding the bottom. It hangs around for ages and leaves strong lacing.

The aroma is interesting and like no other beer I've smelled. It truly smells like a funky Arnold Palmer. I can definitely get some tea leaves with light lemon notes and maybe a touch of herbal hops.

The taste has an initial earthy funk with tea and tart lemons mixed in. The finish is dry and oaky with some spiciness mixed in.

The mouthfeel is light bodied with low carbonation and dry. It's a little too watery for my liking.

This is certainly one of the least impressive of the Veritas I've had but it's an interesting experiment of mixing funk with Arnold Palmer. Decent.

Apr 03, 2011
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mothman from Minnesota

3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I was surprised to see the C+ average for this beer as I didn't think it was that bad. I just didn't think it fit the AWA category as well as some of the other veritas beers.

A bit of a gusher, not as bad as 006.

Poured into snifter. Pours 1 finger of off-white head. Nice lace. Color is a hazy burnt straw yellow.

Aroma: Lemons, mandarin oranges, apricots, green tea, and apples. Very faint sourness. No acidic flavors. Spices.

Taste: Much like the nose. Apples, apricots, mandarin oranges, dried spices, herbal tea. Not very sour or tart. More saison-like.

Mouthfeel: Faint tartness, clean. Light bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends clean.

Overall, this was a very easy drinking wild, if you want to call it that. Very clean. Simple, but good. If I rated this other than an AWA, it would probably have higher scores.

Jan 18, 2011
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jlindros from Massachusetts

3.68/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Light murky brown water colored with almost no head.

Nose loaded with tea, lemonade, light spices, cammomile, lemon peel coriander etc.

Taste is light lemon tea light spices decent bitternss light sour lemon peel little watery, light tart fruits and lemon peel. Finishes little dry malty.

Mouth is smooth very light with lower carbonation.

Drinkability is pretty high, light refreshing lemonade fused tea with a light beer. On a hot summer day there would be very few beverages that would be more refreshing than this.

Nov 07, 2010
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madtowndmb1 from Wisconsin

3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Apr 14, 2012
Veritas 008 from The Lost Abbey
Beer rating: 87 out of 100 with 95 ratings