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Mo' Betta Bretta | The Lost Abbey

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Mo' Betta BrettaMo' Betta Bretta

Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey
California, United States

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.15%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by MasterSki on 06-10-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 119 | Ratings: 406
Photo of TheLostGringo
1.94/5  rDev -45.2%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

375ml C&C bottle poured into a Hill Farmstead glass.

A: Pours a hazy light orange, with about a 1/2 inch head from a careful pour. some carbonation that bubbles up from the bottom.

S: Sweaty Feet or old gym socks, could think of nothing else. Revolting and unappealing.

T: Almost nothing noticeable very boring and one dimensional.

M: Thin and watery.

O: Absolute garbage, can't believe their are some half-way decent reviews of this beer. I know taste is subjective, blah.. blah.. blah..

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Photo of donkeyrunner
2.28/5  rDev -35.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Gold with a sassy lilly pad of white foam on top. Fast fleeing foam that is. Cute bottle with cute bottle art.

Smells like musty sweet tarts and corn chips. Maybe some mild rye-like spice but I may be reaching.

Like not as sweet white grape juice with no discernible brett. Not as wild as I was hoping for. Not really wild at all. Kinda tastes like a Harpoon IPA from the cooler that's been in the basement since last beach season and all the hops have faded out and the crystal sweetness is gone and you wonder why you wanted to try it in the first place except that this time it's supposed to tasted like that (I'm guessing) and it's $10 for a cute little bottle that you bought because of the cute frogs.

Mo betta is better than no bretta but not by much.

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Photo of MusicaleMike
2.31/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from a 375ml bottle into a teku. Collaboration beer between New Belgium and Lost Abbey.
100% Brettanomyces fermented.

Orange gold sunset color, subtle haze in the body. Tons of bubbles risinng up to escape, with a large white head that slowly settled and left its mark on the glass. Good lacing initially, but none after the initial head dies.

The aroma in an unexciting one for the style. I believe that age has not done favors to this beer, as usually is the case. I get hints of oxidation (despite the cork and cage) aromas of white grape juice, pear, honey, and sweet creamed corn.

The taste is quite muted, just like the smell. There is a little bit of musk here, and then a bunch of fruity qualities that come off as faded. Apple, stevia, cardboard, and the body is on the lighter side.

I'm pretty disappointed with how this beer held up. The brett didn't really take over here, and I have experienced that with brett before, where it just doesn't work the way you want it to. I would not recommend this beer, especially at this point. Past its prime and the prime probably wasn't that high.

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Photo of SalMineo
2.38/5  rDev -32.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bought this beer as soon as hit the stores in Massachusetts. Must say I was really disappointed in it.

Pour-Had a hazy golden color to it like most sours do with little head. I will say the Carbonation was good as it was not a gusher like some of Tomme's other beers are.

Smell-The smell was kinda weak. It definitely had a little bit of that funky sour smell to it. The smell was not that in your face delicious sour like Jolly Pumpkin or Russian River has. I got some hints of clove and banana and little bit of citrus.

Taste-This was the ultimate let down of the beer. I prefer that kick in mouth tartness that lets you know those wild yeast strains are in those beers. To me the taste had no funk or presence of wild yeast to it. All I tasted was wheat. It reminded of a hefeweizen minus the spices.

Mouthfeel-A bit crisp on the mouth but thats about it. Nothing to really right home about it.

Honestly I really didn't like this beer at all. I know Tomme Arthur has made some great lambics and wild ales such as Duck Duck Geuze, Cable Car and Isabelle Proximus but I feel this takes away credit from his lambic ability. It shouldn't be called a sour ale because it's not. For $10.99 price tag I'll spend a couple extra dollars and stick with a man that knows sours, Ron Jeffries. Definitely won't be buying it again.

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Photo of Arbitrator
2.45/5  rDev -30.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Chilled bottle into a glass. Thanks, John!

A: Pours a murky, dirty peach-colored body. Moderate carbonation.

S: Almost no aroma; surprising. What nose there was suggested a Belgian pale ale or saison; some straw, pale malt, pear, maybe some pepper. No brett.

T: No brett in the taste, either. This comes off as a light enkel (think Redemption). Mild citrus, straw, bread, and a light earthiness.

M: Medium-bodied; I was hoping this would be drier and a little more carbed. Truth be told, I was hoping this would be more like Orval, but maybe that's my own fault.

O: I'm never very impressed with Lost Abbey beers. This continues the trend. Although I received this from a trading partner, I did see it in stores around here for $9; pretty disappointing for that price.

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Photo of HalfFull
2.49/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

375 ml. corked bottle poured into a globe glass. This bottle pours golden with a furious cap of large bubbles that wanted out.

Aroma(cold) of a Golden Ale with notable yeast components and some wheat. Possibly a base for a Bavarian Wheat, who knows.

Taste of yeast and malt again. Nothing unique. No Brett. Zero..
Wow. My last Lost Abbey Beer ever. Feeble.. OK while that comment may be a bit extreme, it's not really that far off either..

Notable misrepresentation in my view..

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Photo of beerandcycling88
2.65/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

On tap at the Collins Pub

A Pours a nice golden yellow with a 2 finger white head.

S A bit of funk with some citrusy lemon.

T For a brett beer there really wasn't a lot of tartness or funk to the flavor and what there was seemed sour in all the wrong ways. There was also a bit of clove and pepper which didn't really work either.

M Very light and easy to drink.

Overall this is a subpar wild ale. There doesn't seem to be much brett funk in either the flavor or nose and what there was just didn't seem to work. I'm glad I got this one on tap instead of paying 14 bucks for the bottle.

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Photo of harrymel
2.73/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottled May, 2012

Pours golden with a solid quilt of bone white foam that falls to a central dome in a minute. Smells of sweet grain, a saison like yeast quality, some hay, a little grass, some artificial apricot, and a hint of clay. Flavor reminds me mostly of a belgian blonde - with overtly savage yeast. Too belgian for me. Sweet with grain and plenty of yeast - nearly a unibroue intensity here. Not sitting well with me. Some hints of grains of paradise. Medium on full bodied with lively carb and a wet finish. Glad I only grabbed one.

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Photo of Thorpe429
2.86/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Lost Abbey teku. Quite bland. Low carbonation. Touch of peach. Fairly dry. Hopefully this gets better with an increased presence. The aged version from Pizza Port was phenomenal.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.01/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pale straw/gold. Head is bright-white bubbly and drops to an almost non-existent cap and collar almost instantly. Almost no carbonation.

Smell: Straight up yeasty funk. Pale malts, grass, hay, and some minor lemon. Damp musty basement. Some backing floral elements. Minor touches of banana and spiciness. Yeasty and a touch earthy. Ripe banana.

Taste: Ripe banana and some mild clove spiciness. Sweet pale malts. Lemon cake. Bright, fresh bready yeast. Earthy and sweet. So much banana. Yeast punches through as the beer warms. Grassy lager-like finish. Pushes something like wheat. Less wild and more wheat and yeast. Less Brett-y than I expected. Very sweet.

Mouthfeel: No carbonation on a smooth barely over light body. Smooth with a lingering spiciness.

Overall: Mo Betta Bretta...a whole lot be better.

Banana and spice but it's nothing super nice. Rather one-dimensional. Sweeter than the New Belgium version, and that hurt it.

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Photo of bum732
3.02/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

S: Clean pils malt, slight phenolics, some hay

L: Cloudy, golden yellow, little head

T: Belgian yeastiness up front with a clean maltiness. Medium low spicy bitterness with some phenolics following. Finishes clean with lingering spiciness.

M: Medium low carbonation, medium bodied.

Meh, pretty mediocre. Where is the Brett in this beer? Solid base beer, but little to no Brett aroma and flavor. Disappointing.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.02/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Received this earlier this year from Doppelbockulus in a great trade... Thanks Charley!!

Pours dark golden... looks like apple juice and the light carbonation and nearly nonexistent head solidifies that image.

Nose is grainy with the brett showing only as some light lemon and dusty/grassy notes... really fruity and sweet with warmth.

Flavor is pretty much the same with an underlying sorta fruity sweetness... apple and perhaps apricot.

Very light carbonation ... bubbles only really show on the tongue.

Just not very good. Seems like a BSPA with only the lightest Brett character.


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Photo of bashiba
3.05/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured a deep cloudy orange with a thick and creamy white head that was very quickly with no lacing or retention to speak of.

The smell started it out nice and funky with a big barnyard like nose, but quickly turned into a more standard wheat style affair with big banana and clove notes overtaking the brett components.

The flavor reminds of a hefe with a touch of brett funk, mostly get a sweet banana/orange flavor with a bit of spices including clove and vanilla, there is just a touch of basement like Brett character sneaking through with a light minty hop finish.

The mouthfeel is tingly with carbonation, almost prickly and a bit thin like soda.

Overall I felt this to be a bit of a letdown, not enough Brett qualities especially judging it by the name and the very high price tag.

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Photo of DeanMoriarty
3.07/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a 12.7 fl oz brown glass bottle (corked and caged) from Olive Tree Market here in OB for $8.49 and poured it into an Odell's branded tulip glass.

A: Weak pop of the cork had me worried that I had purchased yet another bad bottle from The Lost Abbey (already returned 2 within a year where they were taken back with no questions asked due to many others returning the same label for the same reason). Fortunately it wasn't bad, just poorly carbonated - more about that later.

Pours a hazy apricot hue with a thin head that dissipates within the first few sips, leaving no lacing in its tracks.

S: Typical farmhouse/saison smell - dried hay, sweet and grainy with just a slight hint of Brett funk.

T: Similar to the nose - sweet and bready, slightly woody but not a good deal of funk from a beer called "Mo' Betta Bretta". The sweetness dominates and there is a slight hint of booze at the very end which is shocking for a beer with an ABV of 6.3%.

M: Lightly carbonated which is strange for a wild ale - not sure if it lost some in the bottling process but as mentioned above the cork had absolutely no pop to it. Mouthful is almost thin and off. The finish is dry which is nice but that's about it.

Overall a decent farmhouse/saison - not really a wild ale at all - too many components lost or missing all together for it to be considered an "American Wild ale" - this term gets tossed around too much these days and this is a good example. And at nearly $9. a bottle - you've got to be kidding me!

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Photo of danedelman
3.08/5  rDev -13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A-yellow with small head that quickly went away.

S-adjunct and a hint of funk. Almost like a lager smell.

T-I don't get any funk that I smelled and quite honestly, very disappointing. Tastes like a lager too.

M-mdium with low carbonation.

Not impressed at all with this one at all. Sorry.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.11/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottled 3/24/12
(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer pours a slightly hazy dense orange body with the second pour being chucky. There is a light beige thick meniscus of head that is supported by strands of microbubbles.

S- The aroma of boiled corn has a slightly sweet yeast aroma in the finish.

T- The over cooked corn taste has a slightly sweet green hops candy hint the turns into a pale malt sweetness as the beer opens up.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel has a slippery texture and no alcohol heat.

O- I’m glad I got to try this beer as it is a very interesting experiment but I didn’t care for the cooked corn flavor at all. I really like brett when it is aged in Belgian beers and perhaps a different strand of Brett would be more enjoyable but this one was tough to get through.

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Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.14/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Hefty chunks of haze throughout the yellow beer, nice pristine white head on the top of it. Mild aroma, immediately was thinking more biere de garde type of thing moreso than a wild ale. Just lots of bretty and bready going on. Just the slightest bit of mild citrus, like they took 1/20th of a valencia (that's a juice orange!) rind and threw it in the barrel.

Taste, definitely not sour, again, more like a biere de garde, lots of biscuity, breadyness to the beer, thick mouthfeel. Seems like this may be uber fresh without giving time for the brett to do more of its thing. Comparing this to Sanctification does a major disservice to Sanctification. This pour, tasted nothing like Sanctification. There's no bacteria here, just brett yeast strains. Don't go into it expecting a sour beer.

Plenty gritty, teeth sticking aspect of the beer. Drank at the FW invitational. Never picked up any oak from it.

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Photo of AgentZero
3.15/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - The beer has a nice color, poured into my Goose Island Chalice. A bright orange that turns into a honey yellow color up toward the top. No real head to speak of, some bubbles popped up for a second and disappeared immediately.

S - Some hay, clover, brett, straw. Smells like a spicy/slightly tart hefeweizen. Not particularly good, and somewhat strange.

T - Lemon, straw, little bit of clover, bubble gum, and some slight funk. Seems like it should be a little bit sweeter, this has a lit of "belgian" going on in it for an American Wild Ale. Seems almost like a cross between a Wild, Saison, and some Hefe thrown in for good measure.

M - Medium bodied, fuzzy carbonation.

O - Didn't really care for this much at all. Seems lost between styles, and isn't really interesting to drink.

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Photo of cpetrone84
3.16/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

pour is a hazy dirty yellow with a thin bubbly head. The nose has nice signs of Brett, light dust and leather with notes of pineapple. However, that is accompanied by stale grain and bread. The taste is less Brett and more stale grain and bread. Same Brett notes just more muted and the nose wasn't bright in Brett. There is also an overly sweet candied lemon in te finish. The body is fairly well carbonated especially for la, it's light and a bit grainy in feel.

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Photo of Jmamay22
3.16/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a brilliant burnt orange with ecru head and cloudy haze. The scent is disappointingly muted. I'm hoping as I let it warm some it will improve, but no luck. Faint scent of pear with a yeasty background. I expected more from a wild ale. A little funk or complexity.

The taste also falls short of my hope as well. A bit of hope on the finish with a peppery hope finish, but otherwise a bit listless. The body is on the lighter side of medium. I expected more bang for the buck and from these breweries. I had also anticipated greater complexity seeing this is a wild ale. Altogether not a bad beer, but not great.

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Photo of benfons
3.16/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

A: No head what so ever, hazy colour, light orange colour

S: lots of honey, hints of citrus and banana, no hops and only a very slight hint of yeast

T: not as sweet as you'd expect, some bitterness, some tart, , more yeasts but somehow this doesn't really work for me

M: undercarbonated, rather dry, more alcoholic than you would expect

O: Doesnt work for me, not balanced,undercarbonated, not an attractive beer

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Photo of Chico1985
3.17/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

375ml split amongst peeps.

Poured a bright orange with some haze there. A small white head forms and fizzes away pretty quickly leaving only a slight ring in its wake.

Pretty decent scent, saison-like yeast/bread/straw thing going on, with some citrus and other light fruits, not getting much brett but good.

The taste isn't as good, kinda reminds me of a plain saison, brett is very tame/non-existent. Grass, straw, bready malts, citrus, pear. Mouthfeel is decent, kinda foamy.

Overall pretty unremarkable, even if this were labeled as a saison it would still be pretty bland, not much wild ale characteristics here, so perhaps it could use some age to open up. Not bad but can't say I'd want to pay the price for a bottle.

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Photo of angrybabboon
3.23/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for sharing this

Appearance: Clear golden orange, pours with a little white head, leaves some nice spots

Smell: Yeasty - straight-up, yet mild Brett funkiness - some clean barnyard, mostly hay - some light tropical notes, like pineapple - lightly sweet, lightly cooked pale malts

Taste: Yeasty pineapples? - lightly tart, mildly funky - more mild than the aroma suggests - some light citrus, pineapples, and other light fruits - lightly spicy with some mild bitterness - perhaps a tad watery - pale malts, lightly sweet

Mouthfeel: Medium body, nicely carbonated, smooth with a clean finish

Overall: Strange, but worth a try

As one would expect, this is similar to its New Belgium counterpart. This is slightly more yeasty. Yet, overall this still has some flaws... It feels oddly unfinished. Tasty, but it lacks complexity.

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Photo of bonkers
3.23/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured from a bottle into a snifter, hazy , straw colored pour, slight head. The aroma is light hay, lemon, barnyard. It has flavors of lemon, slight funk, drying finish. The body is medium, slight carbonation. A very underwhelming beer. It is underwhelming, was expecting more funk from a 100% brett beer. IMO taste like a very average saison. This beer is a pass, especially at 20 bucks a bottle.

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Photo of Duhast500
3.24/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Poured from a 12 oz. corked bottle into a harpoon tulip glass.

The color is a hazy orange with a finger and a half of foamy white head that is quickly gone before the first sip.

The smell is funky but not too sour. There is some banana aroma mixed with a touch of Belgian candy sugars. The grainy aroma that is detectable in the nose and reminds me of a triple but not as sweet.

The taste is sweet but not sour, and wild sourness seems to have been missed in this bottle. What I'm left here is a tasty Belgian-like beer without the carbonation and not much in the way of brett flavor. The is some fig flavor and some slight bubblegum flavor mixed in with a grainy flavor that is nice but is not as exciting as expected.

The feel of this beer is smooth with a nice drinkable feel. It goes down easy and has a medium to light body.

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