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Mo' Betta Bretta | The Lost Abbey

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Mo' Betta BrettaMo' Betta Bretta

Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey
California, United States

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.15%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by MasterSki on 06-10-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 119 | Ratings: 406
Photo of Sammy
3.69/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

If the intent was to brew a Belgian style ale with a pleasant orange citrus character, understated carbonation, then they did it spot on. Smooth mouthfeel. Decent drinkability with food. If this moderately bretted ale qualifies as a wild ale, then there are funkier beers around not listed as wild ales. Thanks Robert Bland for hooking me up.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.67/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 5/23/12.

Pours a murky honey orange with a 1/2 inch foamy bone colored head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of malt/grain, yeast, and some slightly funky Brett aromas. Taste is of malt/grain, yeast, and some very mild Brett flavors without any sort of real funk tastes. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is drinkable but just like the New Belgium version, there is no real distinct Brett presence. However, I must say that this is the better of the 2 versions in my opinion.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.3/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

i think this is superior to the new belgium release, but still a let down as wild ales go. the brett hasnt changed this much since its release, and we are left with an underwhelming pale hazy yellow beer thats soft in feel and well heady, but pretty minimal as far as flavor goes. lots of stale wheat malt, and a yeast that is neither funky or traditional, its sort of dry and bready, but the usual characteristics of the brett dont ever show up. i get some fruity zest on the back end, but a general staleness is my takeaway. the feel is fine, bubbly and light on the palate, but the flavors just never really show up. kind of a sloppy yeasty mess, i know the lost abbey is capable of better, they have some amazing wilds, but this one is a bit of a throwaway at this point.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.3/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to DaveHack for opening this one. The beer poured out at a hazy golden yellow color with a thin white fizzy head on top. The retention and lacing were decent. The smell of the beer is very mild for a wild ale. There really isn't a lot of funk of sour notes on the nose of this. Instead I get some fresh wheat aromas and other grains. The taste has a very subtle funkiness to it with some soft grain flavors and minimal bitterness. The mouthfeel of the beer is light bodied, smooth and fairly refreshing. Overall I was surprised by how subtle this beer ended up being. Not bad, not great though either.

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Photo of metter98
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy dark golden yellow in color. It poured with a finger and a half high off white head that quickly died down and left lacing on the surface and a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of lemon and orange citrus in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the taste has flavors of orange citrus along with hints of sourness and tartness.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer feels a little heavier (and maltier) compared to other wild ales. It doesn't deliver as much sourness compared to other beers in the style but it still has some interesting properties and is very easy to drink.

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Photo of brentk56
3.77/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a clear golden color with an inch or so of foam that leaves strands of lace behind

Smell: Wheat bread, straw, Belgian yeast phenols, leather, banana; hints of peach and cantaloupe

Taste: Opens with bread and banana tones, with a hint of funk developing in the middle, along with cantaloupe and peach flavors; leather and sweet candi sugar tones combine in the finish with the other flavors that appeared earlier

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body; slightly overcarbonated

Overall: Drinks more like a Belgian pale than a wild ale, as others have noted even after giving the Brett a couple of years to do its thing; it would score higher if the expectations weren't set by the labeling

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured an amber color ale with a medium size foamy head with average retention and minimal lacing. Aroma of funky yeast is sourer then I would have anticipated. Taste is a mix between some sweet malt notes with some funky ester and light barnyard notes and a sour finish. Boyd is quite full with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Interesting but a bit underwhelmed and not sure this is one I would revisit anytime soon.

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Photo of emerge077
3.25/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks Ben for sharing this one! Tasted alongside NB Brett Beer and SN Brux. Quick review from notes.

Served in a tulip glass from a sturdy 375ml bottle.
Pale murky yellow orange, some light carbonation visible, thin cap of white foam. Skim breaks quickly, it didn't have that crazy rocky head like many Brett beers have.

Light aromas of pear esters and a generic Belgian yeast. Not getting much funk or farmhouse character from the Brett strain. Grainy like a BPA or Saison. Flavors are similar with a basic light pale malt sweetness, pear and apple flavors, and a watery thin body. Not really worth the $11 price tag... maybe this was released too early, it seemed the Brett was barely there if at all.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.4/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12.7 fl oz brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap acquired at Ramirez Liquor in Los Angeles, California, and served into a generic (unbranded) stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the breweries and style; I was extremely impressed with La Folie and I love Lost Abbey's sours.

Taken from the refrigerator and and allowed to warm significantly prior to serving. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours an impressive seven finger beige colour head of nice fizzy soft cloud-like cream, good thickness, and excellent retention. Colour is a hazy orange-copper; very hefeweizen-esque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. All around I'm excited to try it, but there's nothing unique or special here.

Sm: Heavy brettanomyces, clean malts, a bit of bacteria, hints of orange peel citrus (and accompanying citrus-focused light hopping), wheat (?), and above all yeast. A fairly strong aroma. Very pleasant to a sour fanatic. I'm excited to try it.

T: Pleasant bretts, wild yeast, no real bacteria, orange peel citrus and accompanying complementary light hops, and a clean malt foundation. A lactic note. Certainly alive. A bit too biscuity on the back end. Nicely layered and subtle, but it comes off a bit simple compared to my expectations. It's enjoyable, but I expected more complexity and subtlety. Nicely balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, wet, and refreshing. Suits the flavours quite nicely, but borders on too much wetness. Carbonation is perfect.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable, but not at all worth the high price. I expected far better from these two breweries, especially for a sour. I'd have this on draught or significantly aged if I was in the mood to over-pay for a sour, but I wouldn't recommend it to friends. A disappointing limited release, but still an enjoyable one.


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Photo of zeff80
3.88/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a cloudy, golden yellow color with a one-finger, white head of rocky foam. It left thin rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of funkiness and yeastiness with some caramel notes.

T - Good phenolic and funky tasty with a nice spicy bitterness. Caramel sweetness makes a nice backbone.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - This is a really tasty wild ale. I enjoyed this version better than the New Belgium version.

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Photo of Thorpe429
2.86/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Lost Abbey teku. Quite bland. Low carbonation. Touch of peach. Fairly dry. Hopefully this gets better with an increased presence. The aged version from Pizza Port was phenomenal.

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Photo of jlindros
3.69/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Wanted to wait a while to crack this, but I have a couple other bottles so might as well have it while it's not too old and try it first.

Pours a light fizzy head despite tons of bubbles, little lacing, crazy hazy murky sediment filled yeast chunked golden straw honey colored beer.

Nose has some funk, light horsehair funk, lemony, lemon balm like, light floral spices, little fruity and tart fruit, light wheat and grassy aromas, fairly fruity overall.

Taste starts with a somewhat sweet malt bite, sweet golden malts and candi sugar, a nice golden Belgian malt flavor esp with the candi sugar gives a nice Belgian feel overall. Smooth malts turn to light funk, just a touch of funk overall but a decent fruit base, tart pear and lemony, grassy and wheat flavors again, straw, grainy a bit, nice and fluffy and a bit effervescent. Finish is sticky and somewhat sweet but mostly dry, gritty, light tart lemony fruit, little floral grassy and fruity.

mouth is med to lighter bodied, plenty of effervescent carb, little gritty.

Overall not bad, but nothing like I expected, very little funk, a bit fruity but not a lot of tartness, more like a decent Belgian ale with a faint hint of funk.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.9/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Lost Abbey

Pours a cloudy orange color with a white head. Smells of citrus, banana, yeast, and spices. A light floral note, some hints of straw and grass, and maybe a little pineapple. The flavor is quite fruity with good citrus, banana, pear, and pineapple notes. The spice (clove and nutmeg) notes are also well represented. Sweet malt and a touch of yeast are also present. More of just a Belgian pale ale sort of flavor, but it’s still quite enjoyable.

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.58/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a hazy medium straw yellow in color with light amounts of visible carbonation. The beer has a finger tall fizzy white head that reduces to a very thin film that covers the majority of the surface of the beer with a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal to light amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Slight notes of banana + clove with stronger aromas of lemon/orange citrus. Lighter presence of brett sour/funk than I expected.

T: This beer almost tastes like a hefeweizen with some very light amounts of brett added. Light to moderate flavors of banana, clove, and lemon/orange citrus with a very light note of brett sour/funk.

M: Slightly heavier than medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Light dryness in the finish and slightly prickly from the acidity.

O: Based on the name of this beer, I was expecting a lot more brett sour/funk...so I was a little disappointed in this beer. There is a strange almost hefeweizen like flavor in this beer which was quite unexpected. Not sure I would get this one again.

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Photo of mdfb79
4/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 07/08/12 notes. Big thanks to Nugganooch for sending a bottle of this my way; thanks Dane! Always excited to try a new wild ale and LA beer. 375ml bottle into my Lost Abbey stemware.

a - Pours a hazy yellow-orange color with one to two inches of bright white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of brett, funk, wood, citrus, floral hops, bready malts, earthy notes. Nice citrus and brett in the nose, as well as wood.

t - Tastes of brett, oranges, citrus hops, floral hops, earthy notes, wood, hay, lemon. More brett and some nice oranges here; better than the nose.

m - Medium body and moderate to high carbonation. Very easy to drink.

o - Overall I liked this one quite a bit. It is not sour at all, but has a lot of brett and a little funk so it you like bretty beers you should like this one. Very easy to drink, glad to have another bottle of it.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.63/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The nose on this one says nothing at all of a wild ale. It seems very much like a saison or a belgian pale ale; rather ordinary and uninspiring. Flavor is very much along the same lines with a sweet and bready character and a slight earthiness as well. If this were listed as a different style, I wonder if the scores would be much higher. That considered, I am curious how to score it, personally. I think the base beer is pretty good. There are just no wild ale tones to speak of at all.

A nice beer, but as a wild ale, very much a miss considering who is behind this one. A disappointment, unfortunately.

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Photo of stakem
3.66/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Much appreciation goes out to BdubleEdubleRUN for sending me this. I am even more thankful after seeing this on a PA bar menu for 35 bucks. Seriously? What makes a beer get a 5x multiplier in price just for traveling across the country? Anyway...

Poured into a matching Lost Abbey Teku glass (again thanks go to Brett for this) the brew appears a clouded color of gold. Sitting atop is a finger and a half of white head that recedes slowly due to supporting bubbles that rise to the surface. A light swirl revives a finger of yellowish stained meringue. Spotty lace sticks to the glass.

The aroma opens up with some tropical quality. Pineapple and mango are noticed before the onset of some belgian phenolics like clove, pepper, bubblegum and banana. There is some grainy wheat inclusion that gives some freshness to the brew. As the brew warms up and is swirled, some grassy notes come forward with some earth and sulfur.

The taste is surprisingly a conglomeration of hefeweizen, saison and/or belgian blonde. There is an upfront fruit quality like mango, pineapple, peach, pear and apple that blends into some spicy yeast elements like clove, banana and pepper. There is a pretty significant wheat inclusion here that does a decent job transitioning the flavors of fruit to yeast and back. The aftertaste is mildly earthy, grassy and sulfuric.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation yet it feels creamy and smooth at times in the feel. For a brew that announces itself as a brett beer, I can see why people get their shit flung up in the air over this and are pissed that it isn't sour or more wild. The overall impression of this beer is something quite similar to a brew I made with brett C, so I would venture a guess that this is what was used here. I found it to be enjoyable in it's own right but really wasn't expecting this to be so similar to an everyday hefeweizen blended with a saison of sorts.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.52/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

375 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Yellow hazy body. Not much head. Really yellow...

Smell - Brett all over, no surprise. Citrus, but faint. Not a lof of complexity. Wheaty.

Taste - Rather bland. Malty. Bretty and bready. Definitely not sour, but I knew that going into it. A bit fruity. Surprisingly creamy finish. Did not expect that,

Mouthfeel - Not light. The creaminess is really a bonus. Low-medium carbonation.

Overall - Unique, but kinda bland. Maybe age will make it more interesting. I missed out on a bottle of the original Mo' Betta Bretta and now I'm really intrigued to find out if it transforms into a masterpiece with age, if it's a completely different beer, or if people really are just tasting the rarity.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.62/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Marked "Bottled 5/29/12" on the neck, this beer is pretty fresh.

A - Mildly cloudy golden blonde. Looks like a wheatbeer. A thin layer of carbonation.

S - A mixture of fruity notes, mostly of citrus and pineapple. Tangy aromas akin to a German wheatbeer.

T - The flavor is very light. Some sweet wheat notes, mild citrus. Faint fruit, skin and sweetness. Mineral water and a hint of alcohol.

M - Light bodied for sure, pleasantly carbonated. Highly drinkable body and profile. Much lighter than I had anticipated.

O - Well this beer isn't bad, but from this brewery and this style I had greater expectations and hopes. I love beers wild, tangy, funky etc. I wouldn't include this in any of those categories.

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Photo of drabmuh
3.55/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Shared by Thorpe, not impressed with this beer. Better than the New Belgium treatment but still not good.

Beer is brown and hazy with thin tan head, low retention, no lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is yeasty and malty.

Beer is medium to light in body, a little yeasty but hte yeast is lost in a lot of malt, it seems like an incomplete beer.

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Photo of Gobzilla
3.42/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: poured a translucent golden straw yellow in color with pale yellow highlights and a half finger of bubbly head that left little wisps of lacing sticking to the glass.

S: some brett funk for sure was in the aroma but was very potent on the various grains used plus wheat, a little honey, hints of hops, lemon citrus present and malt sweetness.

T: mostly various grains to me upfront on the palate with hints of bretty funk, lemony citrus accents, sweet honey flavor, slight spice, wheat notes coming through, plenty of malty sweetness and some underlying green hops.

M: the brew was light to medium in body with fair amount of carbonation which had a sweet, grainy, slightly bretty, citrusy, mild spice and crisp finish.

O: I honestly thought it was going to be way tastier than it was but maybe it just needs some time to develop; Oh well can't win'em all.

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Photo of Gavage
3.97/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a cloudy orange color with a short 1/4" head.

Smell: caramel, citrus, and nice funkiness create a pleasant aroma.

Taste: caramel, peaches, mild orange, green grapes, and a moderate bitterness is wrapped in a nice funk that is not overwhelming to the profile.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer. Lightly crisp throughout with a bit of drying late. Long lasting funk-filled aftertaste.

Overall: this was slow sipping but easy to consume. The brett was not in your face but more complimentary here. Enjoyable but one glass is enough in a session.

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Photo of DoubleJ
3.67/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Once again, good artwork and a good back descriptions sets up this Lost Abbey beee (whispers - and a little help from New Belgium too). From a 375 ml corked and caged bottle, on to the beer:

Pour it, swirl it, get a cloudy and murky yellow orange colored beer with a small head. Retention is fair, and is doesn't really show off with lacing. The aroma does show some of the brett, but the complexity and intendity it usually brings don't seem to be there just yet. The funk is mild, with breaks of leaves and a quick touch of manure.

It's refreshing and very crisp, that's for sure. Very appealing with its mouthfeel, so it's a little bit of a bummer that the taste doesn't meet my high expectations. A little funk rides the wave. A kiss of bubblegum, leaves, and vague spice enter the profile. Its alcohol, listed at 6.3%, does touch and go with a little solvent feel. A soft bubblegum aftertaste lingers.

Good drinking, refreshing, though could use a little time to develop.

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Photo of BARFLYB
4.05/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A bottle into a Belgian Independence Day glass.

Mo Betta Bretta looks cloudy going in the glass, a nice golden color that sports a nice shade of orange. A inch of loose off white foam up above and it stays around. No cling on the glass though.

Smell is light on the brett, big on ripe tropic fruit, Belgian yeast. If this is 100% brett it's not there yet. This gives off more of a fresh triple scent with saison florals. Pineapple keeps coming to mind. No funk, expect yeast and fruit.

The taste is nice, the brett is ever so low at this point that it is an afterthought. Fruity like a triple, floral like with saison characteristics. Apple and pineapple are big, the brett touches the tounge if you put your mind to it. A drying finish. I am digging the taste and forgetting about what is advertised.

Feel is approaching medium, the body is spritzy, the finish is dry. I keep coming up with triple IMO, yet the alc is so low for one of those while the yeast and floral aspect screams saison. Carb is spot on and it lasts.

Perhaps some of MO has been stashed away in a barrel or three with some fruit and MO bugs to create something new and improved. Meanwhile, I have two more bottles which will be taking a four year dirt nap.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.02/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Received this earlier this year from Doppelbockulus in a great trade... Thanks Charley!!

Pours dark golden... looks like apple juice and the light carbonation and nearly nonexistent head solidifies that image.

Nose is grainy with the brett showing only as some light lemon and dusty/grassy notes... really fruity and sweet with warmth.

Flavor is pretty much the same with an underlying sorta fruity sweetness... apple and perhaps apricot.

Very light carbonation ... bubbles only really show on the tongue.

Just not very good. Seems like a BSPA with only the lightest Brett character.


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