Troubadour Obscura | Brouwerij De Musketiers

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Musketiers
Belgium
troubadourbieren.be

Style: Foreign / Export Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by TastyTaste on 09-21-2003

BEER STATS
Ratings:
420
Reviews:
231
Avg:
3.9
pDev:
11.79%
 
 
Wants:
17
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26
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1.25/5  rDev -67.9%

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1.5/5  rDev -61.5%

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2/5  rDev -48.7%

Photo of Overlord
2.06/5  rDev -47.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

This is a stout?

Pours a cloudy dark brown. Large tan head. Smells... bad. Chocolate gone bad, rotten fruit ... oxidized coffee? Taste is, again, bad. Seemed metallic/oxidized, a rancid cafe au lait flavor ... just really unpleasant. Mouthfeel too thin for a stout.

I've had several Belgian stouts now, and I have strongly disappointed by each one. Clearly, not my style.

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Photo of GeezLynn
2.11/5  rDev -45.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance was none too impressive as well as indicative of things to come. Body was a dirty dark brown shade with a billowing off-white head. The smell was an unpleasant combination of green apples, candi sugar, and Belgian yeast along with musty and plastic characters. Flavor was even more off-putting that the aroma. A mixture of apple juice and cheap day-old coffee was what it most reminded me of. While very fruity, it was at the same time bitter and ashy. The mouthfeel was on par with the rest of this beer…..just poor. Thin and way over-carbonated for an overall prickly feel. Terrible.

Wow. Double checking to make sure I have the right beer here. This was supposedly purchased at Four Firkins and I doubt improper conditions are to blame for this violation of my senses. Not a good experience for me. In fact, worst beer of 2011.

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Photo of dedrinker
2.35/5  rDev -39.7%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Not a stout by any stretch of the imagination. Dark murky brown. Nose of fruit, malts, and sugar. Tasted like one of, or a combination of a) a Belgian dubbel. b) an aged and oxidized American Barleywine. c) a limp weizenbock. So not impressed. I did not finish it, and had the bartender take it back. It wasn't bad, but I am judging it according to its professed style. If a friend had home-brewed this as a Belgian dubbel, then I would have been impressed.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
2.44/5  rDev -37.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Best by date of August 2008, Sampled February 2007
Labled a stout, but really pours more like a dark brown ale, or really a Porter. This beer is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick, amber tinged tan colored head. The beer sits a deep, dark brown color in my glass and shows ruby highlights when held up to the lamp. The aroma is a mix of concentrated fruit notes like raisin and fig, as well as a sort of cheesy note, and some definite notes of Madeira and sherry. The lasts too really become noticeable as you dig around in the aroma. There is a nice spiciness to the aroma as well, with notes of clove leading the way, but also notes of ginger, a touch of anise, and even some fenugreek. There is definitely something cheesy going on here though.

Up front the beer tastes of raisins and prunes, as it moves back off the tongue a lightly tart note becomes noticeable. In the long finish a note similar to port, and perhaps even a touch of sherry is noticeable. Very little roast character is noticeable, which is not entirely unexpected in this Belgian brewed beer.

The beer just does not do it for me, it tastes a bit too much like fermented prune juice to really be all that palatable. It never reaches horrible, and I could easily drink this if politeness demanded it. Fortunately it does not, so I will not.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
2.5/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz bottle split and poured into a Bruery tulip.
8.2% ABV, Serving temp. 42° to 50°F, 10/02/13 on the cap.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for sharing?

A - Clear dark brown, almost black with a light tan head that quickly rose to three fingers. Good retention and thick collars of lace coat the glass.

S - Dark roasted malts add notes of dirt and dusty cocoa with a bittersweet chocolate hint. Fully metallic, the nose is pretty distracting. A swirl brings out more Belgian yeast notes of earth and dust. Not appealing in the least.

T - Roasted malt has a dry cocoa and chocolate flavor at first that's quickly washed away by a heavy metallic flavor. Light Belgian yeast hides in the background.

M - Metallic! Dusty, dry with a medium body and slightly acrid bitter finish.

O - I wouldn't want to have this one again. It's far too metallic in nature. Nuances of Belgian yeast are lost to the disgusting and off-putting metallic mouthfeel and flavor. Drain-pour.

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2.5/5  rDev -35.9%

Photo of DoubleJ
2.64/5  rDev -32.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

From a 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

Creamy burnt brown/orange in color, the head on top is large and shows very good retention and some rings of lacing. I was expecting something of a black color. Anyways, the aroma is hard to figure out. It's medicinal, grape, dark chocolate, turkey jerky...something just doesn't bring it all together.

It tastes like a poor mix of rauchbier and Belgian dark ale. The individual notes are nice, but the mix is not. There's some jerky, dates, a slight sweetness, spicy, minerals...kind of enjoyable, but messy. The smooth feel of the liquid and its medium-hevay mouthfeel bring hope, as does a dark chocolate aftertaste. Still, that's not enough to rescue this beer. Não mais!

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Photo of beerwolf77
2.71/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Bottle split and poured into to tulips.

A: Dark cinnamon brown, two fingers of light khaki head. Sticky lace left behind.

S: Dark fruits, light coffee, chocolate and a strange off putting metallic aroma that I can't figure out.

T: Full on iron mineral flavor. Once past the well water I get chocolate, coffee and good amount of bitterness. This is hard to drink.

M: Medium to light body. Modest carbonation.

O: Not sure if it's a bad bottle but this was not good.

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Photo of benmiliron
2.73/5  rDev -30%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Paid $3.99 for a bottle. Bottle was 6 mo. past "best by" date. Dark tar or molasses in the glass. Nice tan head falls fast. Smell is alcohol and spice. Taste is the most interesting. Dark candied fruits and alcohol, a bit of yeast, dates, and an unpleasant bite of something medicinal. Mouthfeel packs a punch with sharp carbonation.

Probably too old a bottle, but there are too many beers out there to try this again. No thanks.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
2.89/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.75

Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with roasted malt, cocoa, acidic, and dark fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour cocoa and dark fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a below average beer that is definitely suffering from a mild infection, but is still fairly drinkable as it is.

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Photo of DoctorDog
2.91/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 12oz. bottle into a snifter. "23/04/11" is printed on the top of the bottle cap. ABV on bottle is listed @ 8.2% (as opposed to the 8.5% currently listed here). Label image has also changed significantly; It now has a crest with a lute on it, and no sign of the bard.

A- Very dark brown. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head, which fades slowly to a thin cap.

S- Quite sweet and malty, with hints of dark fruit/raisins. As head dies, a musty cardboard odor begins to surface.

T- First thing that stands out is a healthy dose of wet cardboard/oxidation. Moderately sweet. Hints of dark fruitiness are present, but obscured by the off flavor. Not truly terrible, but hard to get past the carboard.

M- Moderate carbonation, medium-full, and fairly creamy, thought the "wet cardboard" seems to give it a bit of an overly dry feel.

D- Mediocre. Taste was a bit sub-par, but everything else was more or less OK.

Future outlook: I feel fairly confident that I got an "off" bottle, and I might give this another shot if it strikes my fancy.

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Photo of teromous
2.96/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I don't see a date on the bottle but the cap has the following stamped: "0204110209"
The beer I have is listed at 9% ABV and is marked as a "mild stout" at the bottom part of the label.

Appearance: As soon as I opened the bottle it began to slowly gush out on its own. This seems a bit odd given that it doesn't have much of a head when poured. It has a light cream colored head with a bit of a light khaki in it. Spotty lacing. The body of the beer is a dark brown color and opaque.

Aroma: It has a strong caramel aroma which is more consistent with something like a Doppelbock. It has a sweet sugary date smell too which again is more consistent with something like a Dubbel. It is not a bad aroma it just doesn't smell like a stout. Normally very liberal license can be given to any dark Belgian beer given that specific styles are not listed but this beer explicitly states that it is a "mild stout."

Taste: There is a bit sweet malty caramel flavor here. It has just a touch of raisin bread flavor or even a bit of fruitcake. It's a pretty good tasting beer but it won't scratch an itch for a stout.

Mouthfeel: Quite a bit of carbonation; more than the standard stout. The body is about medium and no bitterness at all. A slightly off-dry finish.

Overall: It's not a bad beer as a whole but it just tends to be very sweet and without a solid direction or intent. It tends to be pretty sweet and that really dominates both the nose and the flavor palate to the point where you just want something more from the beer. It doesn't taste like a stout at all. The upside is that it does have a nice raisin bread or fruitcake flavor but again this is surrounded by this strong malty caramel sweetness. If that is your thing then you might enjoy this but if you are looking for anything in the realm of a stout then you will be disappointed.

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

Photo of HappyBivouac
3.03/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Poured into an Ommegang glass. The bottle is different from the one on the site, and more to my liking. Best by date on the bottlecap of 23/05/10

a- cloudy dark brown an a light tan head that dissipates quickly leaving a thin bubbly film. pretty pleasant to look at, actually. The head after calming down has a really interesting appearance involving lots of large and small circles making a pattern. That's the best way I can describe it but I haven't seen this phenomenon before.

s- smells of belgian yeast fruity sweetness and tartness. Lots of mildy tart and sweet fruits like raisins, white grapes, apples and pears. Not so bad.

t- very bready with subtle sour/sweet fruits right upfront with a little bit of brown sugar. There are very, VERY subtle hints of roasted chocolate and coffee, but not enough to round this out. The weird thing is there is no discernable flavor in the middle. It feels like the taste enters the mouth and seems promising, then suddenly vanishes like a ghost. The finish is a strong definite belgian yeast tartness. The long-term aftertaste is an unpleasant yeasty sour feeling. None of the flavors--though strong--seem to have any sort of fullness to them, and overall it seems very unbalanced and/or lacking. This doesn't taste like a stout in any way, shape or form, either.

m- a medium to medium-heavy body that clashes and contrasts with the weird ghostly vanishing taste. Would love this feel in other beers, not so much here.

d- like I said, the flavors are strong but don't present themselves well at all. I got tired of the taste and heavy body of this beer, so I couldn't see myself having another or buying this ever again.

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Photo of dgilks
3.03/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A little toasty but very, very sweet. Caramel and toffee but it isn't in balance.

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3.05/5  rDev -21.8%

Photo of Jules11788
3.07/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a cloudy, murky, dark brown color like tootsie rolls, slight reddish hue as the light hits it; two finger-width head, medium lacing. This is a pretty ugly beer.

S: Very strong malt smell with hints of toffee and a little tiny bit of dark fruits; some earthy notes with a little yeasty characteristic; overall though the malt pretty much overpowers much of the other aromas.

T: Sweet chalky malt up front; subtle (and boy do i mean SUBTLE) but very nice flavors of chocolate and roasted coffee round out the back end, with a nice roasty bitterness that lingers on the back of the tongue. Again, the malt overpowers much of the other flavors as they try to break through. The coffee and chocolate notes are very tasty, but so light that they barely register on the tongue after it's been assaulted by the initial malt bomb.

M: Medium-light body; very smooth with slight carbonation; dry finish that allows the flavors to open up along the middle of the palate -- this helps bring forth the chocolate and coffee notes near the end, but it's just not enough to push through the malt. Also, this has absolutely NO boozy hint at all. For 8.2% it covers up the alcohol exceptionally well.

O: This was a very underwhelming brew. It had some interesting characteristics, but overall it was just too dry and lightly flavored, and the yeasty malt is so overpowering that it covers up the delicious chocolate and coffee notes that reside just below the surface. It has the potential for greatness, but gets muddled down by an unbalanced flavor. For $5 a bottle (33cl), I don't think I'll ever be getting this again.

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Photo of Young_John
3.1/5  rDev -20.5%

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Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
3.9 out of 5 based on 420 ratings.
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