Troubadour Obscura | Brouwerij De Musketiers

Troubadour ObscuraTroubadour Obscura
BA SCORE
74%
Liked This Beer
3.89 w/ 423 ratings
Troubadour ObscuraTroubadour Obscura
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Musketiers
Belgium
troubadourbieren.be

Style: Foreign / Export Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by TastyTaste on 09-21-2003

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#7,595
Reviews:
231
Ratings:
423
Liked:
313
Avg:
3.89/5
pDev:
11.83%
Alströms:
3.7
 
 
Wants:
16
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Photo of DoctorDog
2.91/5  rDev -25.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 12oz. bottle into a snifter. "23/04/11" is printed on the top of the bottle cap. ABV on bottle is listed @ 8.2% (as opposed to the 8.5% currently listed here). Label image has also changed significantly; It now has a crest with a lute on it, and no sign of the bard.

A- Very dark brown. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head, which fades slowly to a thin cap.

S- Quite sweet and malty, with hints of dark fruit/raisins. As head dies, a musty cardboard odor begins to surface.

T- First thing that stands out is a healthy dose of wet cardboard/oxidation. Moderately sweet. Hints of dark fruitiness are present, but obscured by the off flavor. Not truly terrible, but hard to get past the carboard.

M- Moderate carbonation, medium-full, and fairly creamy, thought the "wet cardboard" seems to give it a bit of an overly dry feel.

D- Mediocre. Taste was a bit sub-par, but everything else was more or less OK.

Future outlook: I feel fairly confident that I got an "off" bottle, and I might give this another shot if it strikes my fancy.

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Photo of htomsirveaux
3.45/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

33 cL bottle tried 3 Dec 2009.

Poured in a ~6 oz wine glass. Head wants to form directly in the bottle, have to pour before it makes a mess. Medium tan head. Clear dark brown color with reddish highlights. Well carbonated. Aroma is quite sweet, syrupy, reminiscent of pumpkin, chocolate, sorghum. Starts fairly syrupy, like a moderately sweet molasses. Pumpernickel. Some leather and tobacco. Boozy, ethanol is warm in the finish and aftertaste. Sweet and syrupy throughout. Medium body. Like a strong sweet brown alemore than a stout.

Decent but quite a bit more syrupy sweet than I prefer.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.35/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Troubadour Obscura poured ontap into a Troubadour tulip glass. A deep pour yields a dark brown liquid with a huge foamy head and nice lace work.

Aroma of chocolate, bready malts and suggestions of fruits. Inviting and appealing.

A melancholy collection of Chocolate, Oak, Vanilla. Bready malts are there in the flavor dept. as well. Cocoa is prominant and pairs well with the malt, slightly roasted around the edges. Hop bitterness is low, just a tad minerally. Great woody/oak notes in this beer, alcohol is played down but this beer does remind one of its strength from time to time. Port like flavors develop as the beer approaches room temperature. Excellent.

Mouthfeel is full bodied and silky smooth.

Drinks very solid for a beer of such strength. Not often do I come across a belgian stout but this mild stout was fantastic.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On draft at a local beer bar. Beer is brown and clear and has very low carbonation. Head is thin and diffuse and made up of brown bubbles.

Smells like a brown ale with a slight amount of roast in the nose.

Beer tastes good, sweet and vanilla with a nice mild roast flavor at the end. Beer is silky smooth and has notes of caramel in the aroma and in the forward mouth, burnt sugar or roasted brown sugar. This beer tastes a lot darker than it is. Drinkability is high and mouthfeel is good.

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Photo of Bung
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thirsty Monk in Asheville. Cloudy dark brown pour with a good sized light tan head. Taste was sweet, malt, raisin, molasses, brown sugar, but kept in check with the roast nut, bitter fruit and carbonation. There is a little caramel and chocolate then just slight coffee hints in the finish. Interesting beer, worth trying if you can.

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Photo of scottg
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 pz bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a dark brown with a one finger tan head with good retention and heavy patchy lacing. Lots of sweet malt aromas with cherry, raisin, and tobacco. Very complex tasting beer, alcohol, sour cherry, bitter lemon rind, roasted/smokey chocolate, grapes, and some wood. Medium carbonation, medium body smooth and easy drinking.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.62/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Does this brewery have a surplus of sugar they they have got to get rid of?

A dark brown beer shows some crimson hues and a bit purple at times. Good head formation shows lightly tanned foam and lingers for most of the session. Also some lace evident.

Heavy malts set the tone for a lot of sweetness that dominates the glass. Dark and dried fruits of blackberries, raisons, dates, figs, plumbs, grapes, and currants. Light spice and tartness helps to balance out the residual sugar blast. Alcohols late also thin the beer to make it more drinkable. However up front, the beer is heavy, doughy, and sticky sweet. Light toasty notes get swamped and give an almost Sweet Stout taste and texture. Full, rich, and silky at times this beer would be very nice if it were not for the syrupy flavor and feel.

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Photo of LestatSabastian
4.15/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I really liked this beer.
The color was nice dark brown extremely nice when held near light.
love the smell it smelled of a malt and almost burnt chocolate.
Its taste was very creamy and bittersweet.
mouthfeel was good, but the last sip had some head and it was awsome. drinkability was excellent. I got a deal on this beer In Mt. Brook Alabama. I found the beer on top of the beer fridge near the back. they gave it to me for 10.79 I would love to know what the reg price of this beer is?

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Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a five finger dark cream head that fades slowly leaving some lace. Cloudy brown color. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet caramel nose. Flavor is sweet caramel and molasses. I like the brewer's idea of a light brown. Label has the ABV at 8.2%. $4.29 for a 330ml bottle from Beverage Warehouse Winooski, VT.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap 8/7/08 at Doherty's East Ave Irish Pub in Pawtucket, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a medium brown color, with a large beige head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of caramel, fruit, Belgian yeast, some spice and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with flavors of caramel, apples, citrus and spices. Then a hearty malt character and Belgian yeast breadiness follow. There's a mild hops presence that bring a little balance. Despite the name, I didn't find too many stout-like qualities. The after-taste is sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, light-to-medium carbonation, finish is sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, slightly filling, good kick, good representation of the Belgian Strong Dark style, this is a nice brown Belgian ale with some substance and strength making it worth drinking for a while.

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Photo of TLove
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Small bottle at Granville Moore's in D.C.

Great, warm brown color and cloudiness not typical of stouts and porters. Creamy dirty tan head with minimal lacing. The smell is hoppy, alcohol-laden and slightly malty, but otherwise incredibly discreet. Dark sugars, heavy, mild toffee taste and roasted malt. Dark fruits such as prune and cherry. Soft on the mouth and full-bodied. Subtle tastes not dominated by any one flavor. Well-balanced and 8.5% ABV.

Great beer, my first "mild stout".

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Photo of Newmerator
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a deep brown w a creamy frothy head, couple fingers deep... pretty tasty smelling. cherry, choc, dark fruits, touch of oak. almost smokey.

taste is pretty satisfying imo. same as smell. choc, dark fruits and cherries.

drinkability and mouth feel are pretty good. icould have more than one, but if had the option of an Ol Rasputen, might go for that instead.

cheers to another.

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Photo of MisterClean
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

At BJs Flanders beer tasting in Roseville.

A - Dark brown with a 3 fingered mocha head. Dissipated moderately slow and left little lacing.

S - Burnt toffee, spicy hops, and dark sugars.

T - Burnt toffee, smoke, light spicy hops, and faint flavors of belgian dark sugars.

M - Full bodied and hop dominated. Not necessarily hop dominated, but the additions of black patent and rich roasted malt brought the mouthfeel of the hops forward.

D - Not bad. Would recommend less saaz and patent in the brew. Drinks more like a belgian stout than a strong dark ale.

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Photo of chicagobeerriot
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From bottle into tulip glass. Pours veiled dark caramel with a light, creamy head. Cherries and quince on the nose with some carmel and fig notes underneath. Mouthfeel is heavy at first but with some surprising carbonation, giving the beer an uncommon crispness at the finish. Toffee and honey flavors dominate but with some tartness coming in midway to balance out the sweetness. A bit of chickory at the finish with the slightest amount of alcohol bitterness. This review is based on a fresh bottle, but we've experienced added complexity in a three-year-old bottle at Oud Arsenal in Antwerp and are looking forward to seeing how this develops in the cellar.

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Photo of mltobin
3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle bought at Cork and Keg in Southbury.

This beer looks black in color with a two finger brown head.
It smells like molasses, very rich. It tastes sweet, brown sugar, very rich just as mentioned in the smell. Mouthfeel is a tad bit tart in addition to everything else going on that I mentioned earlier in this review. Drinkability is average. All in all, this beer is worth your time at least on a couple occasions.

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Photo of roblowther
4.58/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

11.2 bottle. Pours almost black with a medium density tan head that soon dissipates. Smells of cherries, soft malt, leather, and a hint of hops. Taste backs the smell. Dark cherries with just a hint of roast, oak, tannins, and a little carob in the finish. Mouthfeel is soft, buttery, and just the right carbonation. Very drinkable, with no hint of the abv and a flavor that is somehow satisfying and thirst-inducing all at once. It's the perpetual motion machine of beers. And again. And again. And again.

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Photo of ThirstyBird
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Julians in Providence
A - Pours a deep reddish brown with course tan head that falls to a skim. Some lacing.
S - Yeast, malt, mild hops. Bready.
T - Dark fruit, sweet malt, mild hops on the back end.
M/F - Medium body. Fine carbonation that is effervescent.
D - Pretty smooth and easy drinking for 8.5%.

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Photo of katan
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle into a goblet

A - A very dark red color. Very hazy and thick looking, but not completely opaque. Head formation is extremely light and quickly dissipates to a film.

S - Starts up with a malt sweetness. Has a good amount of yeast smell to it. Has a hair of oxidation in the background. Certainly a belgian yeast strain.

T - Starts off with the light sweetness. Builds with some very sharp phenolic notes - potent. Starts to roll with an almost chocolate and roasted malt sweetness. Finishes with the same phenolic bite. Aftertaste is understated with a mild yeast bite.

M - Thick and creamy. Full of body - carbonation adds a fair amount of bite to it. Leaves only a slight clinging texture on the tongue.

D - Hard to gauge, I would say its not drinkable but the potency of the abv makes it a challenge. Flavors meld well - not filling.

A very interesting offering - worth a try by far.

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Photo of MoreBeer215
4.6/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Appearance: Dark but not your typical stout dark. Looks like a flat cola.

Smell: Rich and robust with hints of toffee and chocolate.

Taste: Balanced with layers of malts, not unlike its aroma.

Feel: very little carbonation while still being very sippable.

Drinkability: quite drinkable. surprisingly sessionable if you can handle an 8.2% ABV beer.

I'm not quite sure how this stout is mild--certainly not in alcohol. Perhaps its low level of malt and complex belgian yeasts combine to make this a very quaffable stout.

Certainly a stout for lovers of Belgian brews that fear darker, malty beers (porters & stouts). I can see those who enjoy stouts sharing this beer with those who may not normally enjoy this style.

A unique beer worth trying, no matter your tastes.

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Photo of smcolw
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Impressive head that leaves clumps of lace on the glass. The color is closer to a porter--deep brown where light can shine through. Appears cloudy.

This beer has a very rich smell of overcooked caramels and brandy.

Quite spritzy--lots of carbonation which is balanced by the oily thick body. The flavor profile has raisin, toffee and alcohol. Nice bitter finish that seems to be a pleasant blend of hop and black patent. As it says on the bottle, this is a mild stout, but it retains its Belgian heritage.

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Photo of bskrtz
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, served cold in large open challice

A) Pours a very dark, cloudy/murky brown leaning towards black. Light chocolate lacing that lasts through the round.

S) Burnt caramel, figs and raisons. Sweet Belgian yeasts

T) Burnt black dark chocolate, root beer. This tastes like traditional trappist dark ale, but with the added burnt aspect I suspect why its referred to as 'mild stout'.

M) Has the effervescence of dark belgian bottle conditioned ale. Could use a tad more carbonation -- just my .02

D) I enjoyed this beer. I enjoy the style and will add more to my collection

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Photo of kmeves
3.3/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky dark brown with a firm beige head. The aroma is medium sweet with chocolate and coffee as well as some earthy hops. The flavor is roasted and malty with coffee, chocolate caramel and raisins. More bitter toward the finish. I must admit, Belgian Stouts have been growing on me lately.

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Photo of avalon07
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a ulip glass. Had a dark brown color and thick, cloudy consistency. There was a huge, creamy, long-lasting head and excellent lacing.

S: A strong malty smell, along with chocolate and spices.

T: This beer had a big malt flavor up front, mixed with chocolate and a mild coffee taste. Lots of spices (pepper especially) in the finish. Nicely complex.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

D: Overall, this is a drinkable beer. It's solid and well made.

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Photo of hosehead83
4.14/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass

Age of this beer is unknown

Pours a dark brown with a one inch head

Aroma-Smells almost like bread pudding with raisins-perplexing

Taste-It says "mild stout" on the label so I am somewhat taken aback with the initial taste.
It is amost winey, light bodied and fruity with a bit of lingering sourness. Clearly not a tradional stout character. This beer reminds me of a Grand Cru in its complexity and taste, or, as in the Beer Advocate description, a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale". Maybe "mild stout" is how the Belgians describe a"strong dark ale."

In any case this is a complex interesting beer, just don't let the name fool you!

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Photo of sulldaddy
3.54/5  rDev -9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

okay, the beer starts with a gush upon popping the cap...uhoh...usually not a good sign.
Beer is poured at cellar temp into a snifter. Pours a dark mahogany to chocolate brown. A fluffy beige head of 4-5 cm foams up rapidly and surprisingly fades quickly to a thin surface layer with clingy foam on the glass as lattice.
Aroma is some chocolate maltiness and a little brown sugar but overall fairly mild.
First sip reveals a soft silky textured brew with almost non-existent carb, must've all fizzed into the air upon opening the bottle.
The flavor is generally sweet chocolate and brown sugar with a little bit of doughy yeast. The finish is a little dry and roasty actually, but also just a hint of an off metallic flavor way in the background. Overall the beer is tasty, but I wonder about geyser beers and their status. I'd like to try this one again methinks.

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Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
Beer rating: 74% out of 100 with 423 ratings
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