Wisdom Seeker | Black Raven Brewing Co.

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Black Raven Brewing Co.
Washington, United States
blackravenbrewing.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by boogyman on 11-25-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
186
Reviews:
48
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
9.22%
 
 
Wants:
52
Gots:
20
For Trade:
1
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Photo of jmarsh123
2.69/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Pours clear orange-ish color with a good cap of creamy white head. Good retention and a touch of lacing.

Very pine and resin forward. A bit of candied grapefruit as well with some floral notes. Good sticky and dank aroma.

And now the let down. Definitely leans west coast style although there is a bit more malt than in most in that classification. Starts out with a touch of citrus before it's enveloped by bready malts and pine. A weird sweet bread flavor clashes with the hops. Very astringent finish and every bit of the 9.0% ABV shines through then some. Booziness is overwhelming by the end.

Sticky medium body with medium to low carbonation. As mentioned, does nothing at all to hide alcohol.

Not sure why this beer is getting glowing reviews. In my opinion, it's a decidedly below average DIPA. The aroma is very intriguing, but the taste is an absolute mess. 9.0% feels like 12.0%. I've never had a DIPA that seems to add ABV before. There's also a weird sweetness that clashes with the alcohol. Decent hop profile, but is lost behind the booze. Ended up pouring some down the drain as it got to be too much. Very let down by this one.

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Photo of HopHead84
2.78/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2/20/2011

Huge thanks to pranaferox for grabbing me a growler. This was a long time want. Poured into a snifter. This was released about a week ago and traveled in the cold so it's very fresh. Growler opens with a soft hiss.

A: Perfectly transparent dark orange with a creamy off white head. Nice color. Retention is pretty good and lacing is scattered.

S: Pine resin, grapefruit, and a slightly sugary caramel malt foundation. There's a little orange flesh and subtle perfumey floral notes. It's not super aromatic, and it requires a lot of swirling and coaxing to bring out the hop notes. Muted and inexpressive.

T: Well balanced, almost tilting in favor of the malt. It's a decidedly Northwestern style Double IPA. Pleasant moderate bitterness, with pine and somewhat muted citrus that could be described as orange and grapefruit flesh. There's a lot of caramel malt and it's approaching bready at times, and it gives off a little sweetness. Alcohol is unabashed, and every basis point of the 9.00% can be tasted. The finish is quite boozy, with a lower moderate bitterness and lingering orange notes and alcohol notes. The alcohol wares on the palate and becomes detracting.

M: Medium in body with a lower moderate level of carbonation. Mouthfeel is smooth and sticky, though somewhat heavy and onerous.

Overall: This is just an okay beer. It's not that it's overly malty, but that the hops are muted and fail to hold up their end of the bargain, not really providing much in the aroma or flavor categories. Also, the booze flavor isn't at all masked. I appreciate the chance to try it, but not a beer I'd recommend seeking out. In the verdant landscape of IPAs and Double IPAs that is the west coast, this one falls short. I'm quite puzzled by the glowing reviews.

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Photo of Abrengle
3/5  rDev -27.2%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.21/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle courtesy of psiweaver in the Good People/No Rules BIF. Served in a Mikasa tulip.

Pours a slightly-hazed peach color with a good white head and loads and loads of lacing on the sides of the glass. The nose brings a bit of alcohol and malt plus some citrus hops and a light bit of pine. Flavor takes a further turn toward the malt, though there's quite a bit of hop bitterness in the background. Medium body with a bit too much alcohol. Slight chewiness. Decent DIPA.

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Photo of jlindros
3.22/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to rudzud for giving me this bottle to try.

Pours a nice creamy 1 finger head that fades at a med to slower pace, nice soapy lacing, long rings of lacing, semi hazy but mostly clear honey golden color.

Nose is a mix, some nice hops and some not so nice, starts with a little citrus and tropical notes, little juicy tangerine and papaya like, but that quickly gives way to the bad, some rancid hop oils, lots of hop oils and resin, some piney earthy and a little musty cat piss, lots of forest floor pine and herbal tea like hops. Under that is a little candy malt note, little sweetness.

Taste is also sweet, candy malts come right out, little syrupy and some candy sugar, even a touch of a maple syrupy like note but not really a mapley flavor. With that is a touch of booze warmth, and some phenolic notes. But the real player is the hops again, big earthy herbal hops, again that cooked vegetable like note and rancid hop oils, quite an unpleasant hop chracter I think, with some chewy spicy like hops, forest floor pine and earthiness, like chewing on the moss and pine needles, mushrooms, etc, on the floor. Quite bitter overall, that even brings a little briny taste, and booze with some esters. Finish is sticky sweet, more booze warming through with a little ester, lots more hops with chewy herbal forest floor flavors and cooked hop oils.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent but lighter carb, mild warming booze, little sticky sweetness.

Overall not good, malts are OK, booze is OK, but the hops are just bad I think, it's like you take the worst profiles of most hops and throw them together in this beer. The initial quick attempt at citrus was so quickly smashed I almost forgot I even got it in the first place.

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Photo of dt_gbpackersfan
3.4/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of chossboss
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of tobelerone
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of DamienI
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of youradhere
3.58/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

South Sound Tasting Notes

Appearance is light gold, crystal clear with no lacing. Smell is initially pine and toffee, followed by a slight presence of mellon. Flavor is a malty toffee with pine hops, some mango sweetness followed by citrus notes; a mellow flavor for an IPA, mostly dominated by pine notes. Mouthfeel is medium with good healthy carbonation. Overall decent but lacking any distinguishing features to set it apart from the pack IMHO.

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Photo of woemad
3.65/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle purchased at Mid-Columbia Wine & Spirits in Kennewick, WA, for $8.95. No freshness date, and the label is completely different, and incidentally states the abv is 8.9%, for whatever that's worth.

Poured into a Mad Bomber pseudo-IPA glass, this was a moderately clear, orangey amber color. There was a big, fluffy white head that took it’s time dropping. Lots of lace.

Big, citrusy, bitter, grapefruity nose to this.

The taste starts out as a grapefruity blast to the palate. Midway through, things get decidedly piney and bitter, and finish with a dry zap to the tastebuds. Good, but somewhat one-dimensional.

Medium bodied, with a resiny, oily mouthfeel.

Yet another Black Raven beer that does everything it’s supposed to, yet nothing remarkable. It did look great, but it’s one dimensional bitterness doesn’t make me feel like going out of my way for it in the future, and didn’t justify the price.

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Photo of rudzud
3.7/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Received as an extra in a trade and poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a nice crystal clear golden straw hue with a two finger rocky white head that faded to leave light side lacing and a thin blanket. Possibly the clearest DIPA I've seen.

S - Aromas of softer malts and hops, faint herbal tea notes, light caramel, candi, pine.

T - Taste is quite bitter / astringent. Pine is there, same with grapefruit pith. The bitterness is almost clashingly so, and I think it makes the alcohol stand out more. Definitely feel the ABV,
light caramel malt, faintly sweet, herbal hops. Really bitter finish.

M - Mouthfeel is a bit lower carbonated, really does not help to hide the alcohol.

O - Overall, this one threw me for a loop. Was expecting something really stellar but yeah, the alcohol was a bit much.

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Photo of hreb
3.72/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle served in pint glass. This year's bottle claims 8.9% ABV. Immediate, massive pine-hop aroma emanates as soon as the bottle is opened. I think there might be some dry hopping here. Peer pours pale golden in color, not quite clear, with a healthy white head. In addition to the resinous pine there's also a tropical fruit thing going on. Flavor is BIG West coast IPA, aggressively bitter. My mouth is filled with sticky, resiny flavors of pine and citrus, with hops seeking out every corner of my palate. This is not an IPA for anyone with reservations about West coast IPA. Nor a session DIPA (ha!).

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Photo of Moose90
3.74/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of mjtiernan
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of jmccraney
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of GuisseppeFranco
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of ChefHopMeister
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of markgugs
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of beertunes
3.75/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served in straight pint glass. Poured a clean golden-yellow color with a thick, fluffy white head that had very good retention but not as much lacing as I anticipated.

A very strong pine hop aroma greets the nose. I didn't get any other scents and certainly no malt or sweetness. The flavors were similar, there must be malt in here because there is alcohol, but none show up on the tastebuds. Those pine flavors are the dominant flavors.

The body was on the thin side, more of a "hop juice" than a regular beer body. Drinkability was pretty good, depending on how you feel about piney hops.

Overall, a good beer that's worth some effort to seek out.

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Photo of pmarlowe
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of jrob21
3.75/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of BlueSpader
3.77/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Rutager
3.78/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of BMESSER88
3.83/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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Wisdom Seeker from Black Raven Brewing Co.
4.12 out of 5 based on 186 ratings.
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