The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin) | Ballast Point Brewing Company

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The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin)The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin)
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The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin)The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin)
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Brewed by:
Ballast Point Brewing Company
California, United States
ballastpoint.com

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Our Cinnamon Raisin Commodore is truly a story of experimentation. Originally a gold-medal winning American stout first born in our R&D program, our brewers developed a new variation, adding cinnamon and raisins to this dark, bittersweet brew. The result is just the right amount of sweet and spice, with roasty maltiness at the helm.

Added by acurtis on 03-07-2016

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#15,601
Reviews:
62
Ratings:
244
pDev:
10.7%
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Reviews by tillmac62:
Photo of tillmac62
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark as a starless night - pitch black. Quite outstanding head volume. Retention and lacing are world class.

Outstanding nose that is slightly sweet with chocolate. A nice toasty note of roast lingers in the background. Cinnamon and raisin are subtly present with cinnamon being slightly more prevalent. Also present is a lightly charred grainy aspect that some might misinterpret as coffee.

Medium body that approaches heavy medium. The texture is quite smooth, a bit oily and has a touch of creaminess to it. The carbonation / body balance is borderline outstanding. There is enough mid-palate effervescence and the finish nice and prickly.

The flavor profile is border line outstanding. The cinnamon is a bit overpowering and tends to mask the complexity of this stout and upsets the balance. Roast makes it's appearance first in a grainy fashion. The middle is subtly sweet but cinnamon arrives and masks the chocolate notes for all practical purposes. Bitterness is quite mild and is mostly cinnamon in nature. Raisin makes a subdued subtle appearance about three quarters through. The finish is mostly cinnamon and it lingers.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of Bitterbill
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Beautiful looker, black liquid, 1 finger head of tan foam.

Nice whaff of cinnamon hitting my nose buds. Raisin not so much.

Roasted malt, chocolate and cinnamon, some raisins ie dark fruit. Pretty solid taster for being yet another gimmicky beer.

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Photo of chinchill
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle served in a goblet at ~ 50F.

Pours nears black with thin ruby edges and a semi-durable tan head. Good lacing.

Appealing bready aroma with subtle notes of cinnamon and vanilla.

Flavor: Lightly sweet upfront but changes to mildly bitter by the aftertaste. Loads of dark and very dark roasted grains, particularly in the finish and aftertaste. Faint cinnamon, cocoa, vanilla and burnt toast.

Feel: full and creamy smooth body with excellent, soft light carbonation.

Overall: a conservatively spiced, very easy drinking, stout.

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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 9/7/2016. Pours pitch black color with a 1-2 finger dense and rocky khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of big milk/dark chocolate, cocoa, cinnamon, nutmeg, raisin, vanilla, caramel, toasted dark bread, and brown sugar; with lighter notes of coffee, toffee, smoke, char, and herbal/roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/roast/bready malt and raisin/spice notes; with great strength. Taste of big milk/dark chocolate, cocoa, cinnamon, nutmeg, raisin, vanilla, caramel, toasted dark bread, and brown sugar; with lighter notes of coffee, toffee, smoke, char, and herbal/roasted earthiness. Moderate roast/char and pine/herbal/spicy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of milk/dark chocolate, cocoa, cinnamon, nutmeg, raisin, vanilla, caramel, toasted dark bread, brown sugar, toffee, and herbal/roasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malt and raisin/spice flavors; with a great malt/bitter/spiciness balance, and zero astringent flavors after the finish. Light-moderate dryness from roast/hop bitterness, increasing through the glass. Medium carbonation and body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready, and sticky/chalky balanced mouthfeel that is great. Minimal warming alcohol for 6.5%. Overall this is an excellent spiced American stout! All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malt and raisin/spice flavors; very smooth and easy to drink. Quite a bit different than the base beer. Less hoppy and aggressively roasty/bitter; with more dark malty residual sweetness, letting the raisin/spices have good presence. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of oberon
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of heddar33
3.91/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Beaver13
2.86/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle. Pours dark brown black with a medium creamy brown head that retains well and laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet brown sugar, cinnamon and fruit with some chalky roast.

The flavor is sweet sugary fruits and cinnamon with lots of heavy acidic and chalky bitter roast. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and a bit watery.

Overall, the sweet and heavy roast didn't mix well.

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Photo of JakerLou
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of PprBurke
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of rsquared59
3.91/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Jeffwildcat
3.74/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The look and smell is appetizing but the taste threw me off. Bitterness was unexpected which could have been caused by an overwhelming cinnamon. Less of that and maybe some cherry would make it much better.

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Photo of acurtis
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of dhmxray
4.65/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Photo of Bluebird218
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of biboergosum
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz single bottle - nothing like a brew that might be a dessert all in itself, eh?

This beer pours a pretty solid black abyss, with the barest of cola-tinted basal edges, and four fingers of puffy, chunky, and mildly bubbly brown head, which leaves some decent bonsai forest treeline lace around the glass as it lazily subsides.

It smells of metallic cinnamon, oatmeal raisin cookies, bittersweet cocoa powder, subtle bready caramel malt, and very tame earthy, weedy, and floral hop bitters. The taste is gritty and grainy caramel malt, raisin pie, still kind of off-puttingly edgy cinnamon spice, weak cafe-au-lait, dime-store chocolate, and more understated leafy, earthy, and herbal green hoppiness.

The carbonation is active in its palate-pinging frothiness, the body a solid medium weight, and more or less smooth, as the cinnamon spiciness just doesn't seem to know when to put on the proverbial brakes. It finishes off-dry, the malt, dark fruitiness, and spice all coalescing as such.

Overall - this is a fairly representative example of what these two guest adjuncts can do, I suppose, but they seem kind of intrusive at times, which makes for a somewhat trying experience. Tasty, sure, but sort of hard to put back, due to, well, them - nothing more to say, I'm afraid.

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Photo of cbaz
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of whatname
3.67/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of tdm168
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.84/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Ballast Point Brewing Co. "Cinnamon Raisin Commodore"
12 fl. oz. brown glass bottle, packaged September 7, 2016 according to the Julian code on the base of the bottle
$2.99 @ Total Wine & More, Cherry Hill, NJ

Tasting note: I feel this beer is best enjoyed a little bit warmer than usual, allowing it to display its malt and sweetness a little more fully.

Look: The cinnamon and raisin enhanced version of Ballast Point's Commodore American stout pours an opaque brown-black body excepting for a few glimmers of clear dark mahogany at the base of the glass. The Frothy dark tan head holds quite well, and then leaves solid walls of polka-dot lace.

Smell: In the nose it's chocolatey and roasty like bittersweet chocolate with a delicate edge of fruitiness.

Taste: That raisin (or grape flavoring as the case may be) comes through a bit more clearly in the flavor, but not nearly as much as its cinnamon. Oddly cinnamon isn't listed on the label, only "Natural Flavors". And I say that in part because although it has a cinnamon flavor it also has that harsh bitterness that can come from spices, which of course, aren't there. Or perhaps I'm mistaken and the bitterness is from the hops, although it doesn't seem like that. That bitterness is wholly spread throughout a beer, whereas this is the kind that gets you on the tip of your tongue or at the back of the throat. Moving forward, the malt is pleasant with a bit of breadiness, some cocoa, and a touch of molasses. It's balanced nicely beyond the bitterness of the extract, and it finishes mainy dry as the malt fades and cocoa, cinnamon, and raisin linger behind.

Feel: Medium bodied with a standard carbonation.

Overall: Interesting, and charming at times, but the bitterness of the "cinnamon" can be distracting. They both work in the aroma, but neither so much in the flavor. I feel that perhaps the base beer is a bit to hearty to host the cinnamon and raisin elements properly. In fact, I feel as if they're actually detracting from what is most likely an otherwise perfectly good American stout. To each his own.

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Photo of ordybill
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 OZ bottle into a pint glass. The appearance is pure black with a large tan head. The aroma is malt with some cinnamon. The taste matches the nose with some additional chocolate.

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Photo of freewill35
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of BeerAndFilm
4.19/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of BigMFDaddy
3.82/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of breadwinner
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

More like burnt cinnamon raisin toast than the sort of dessert-y adjunct stout you'd might imagine. It's a bit jarring, a bit unpleasant, and not something I'd prefer to revisit.

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Photo of beergorrilla
3.54/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

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The Commodore (Cinnamon & Raisin) from Ballast Point Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.83 out of 5 with 244 ratings