A Few Shillings Too Many
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Style:
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy
Ranked #39
ABV:
11%
Score:
89
Ranked #7,852
Avg:
4.04 | pDev: 9.16%
Reviews:
42
Ratings:
122
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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
 
Michigan, United States
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SCORE
89
Very Good
Notes: Brown in color with ruby and garnet highlights, this strong Scotch Ale is sweet and earthy on the nose. Rich flavors of caramel malt and bready notes, this beer exhibits light fruity esters, reminiscent of dates and dark stone fruits, along with the light smoky-earthy characters the style is known for. Ales in Scotland were traditionally named for their strength, and relative cost, in shillings. This beer would be understated as a 120 Shilling Ale.
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beergoot from Colorado

4/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Brownish orange body topped with a thin yet creamy head. Deep, rich aroma of dark pitted fruits, maple syrup and roasted grains and nuts; brown sugar. Big caramel flavor infused with notes of figs; earthy cinnamon spiciness and very mild hop bitterness; low-key boozy character. Heavy body with some dry residual sugar presence and gentle alcohol heat.

This is a powerful and robust dark ale, complex and slightly boozy.

Jul 29, 2019
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hoptheology from South Dakota

4.29/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

12 oz bottle traded from superspak, 2018 edition, 11.0% alcohol.

Served in Odell Teku.

Deep mahogany color with a thin grey-beige head of 1/2 finger.

Really huge raisin aromas with some brown sugar, fig, toffee, and scorched caramel.

Wow. Giant tobacco right out front, followed by prune, peat, caramel, box raisins, leather, toffee, and even a hint of tangerine. Huge flavors. Huge. Very mild pine on the way back end.

Feel is a little leathery, slightly oily, with some mild carbonation and a moderate to heavy alcohol burn mostly in the gut and throat. Light heat strokes on the palate, gaining intensity with breaths. Sticky and resiny finish.

Overall, a different and more dark approach to the Scottish Ale; this one gives me tons of rolled tobacco which is nice and a change of pace. This was a delicious Scottish Ale.

May 29, 2019
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CanConPhilly from Pennsylvania

4.09/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L - 1-finger yellow head atop a translucent copper body.

S caramel, citrus, brown sugar, raisins.

T - raisins, sweet caramel, dark fruits, candied oranges. No bitterness. Moderate sweetness. Moderate-low booziness.

F - medium body and carb.

O - a deceptive beer. Tastes like some sort of raisin juice, but is in fact 11% abv.

Dec 16, 2018
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LAp from Ohio

4.19/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

To be fair, I'm a sucker for this style of beer. Kuhnhenn definitely knows how to explore the diversity of big, malty styles. On tap. Pours a deep ruby-brown. The beer is dominated by dark fruit, brown sugar, and difficult-to-describe, almost whisky-barrel maltiness. A strong beer all around. Certainly an improvement over its diminuitive 70-shilling form, an an excellent base for the incredible mead-infused successor: Too Damn Many Shillings.

Sep 03, 2016
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MDDMD from Pennsylvania

3.99/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-mahogany color with a small light tan head and minimal lacing

S-caramel malt, toffee, vanilla, dark fruit

T-caramel malt, toffee, dark fruit, vanilla, nutty, light chocolate, hint of oak

F-medium body with light carbonation, smooth

O-good flavor and balance, enjoyable sipping

Jul 04, 2014
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ncketchum from Wisconsin

4.31/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2012 vintage, 11.0% abv per the label, served in a Tyranena snifter

A - an aggressive pour yields a dark copper with a fair amount of sediment, virtually no head noted

S - Carmel, vanilla, brown sugar, a hint of cinnamon

T - malty, vanilla, brown sugar, oak, a bit of apple and pear as well

M - very smooth, alcohol is well-hidden, full bodied

O - excellent scotch ale, great first offering I've had from Kuhnhenn, would love to check out more of their brews

Oct 05, 2013
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superspak from Ohio

4.2/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into snifter, 2018 vintage bottling. Pours moderately hazy deep reddish orange/copper color with a small dense cream colored head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of huge caramel, brown sugar, toffee, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, peach, pear, apricot, red apple, brown bread dough/crust, nuts, and toasted biscuit; with lighter notes of molasses, leather, tobacco, herbal, floral, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast, and light-moderate earthy hop notes; with big strength. Taste of huge caramel, brown sugar, toffee, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, peach, pear, apricot, red apple, brown bread dough/crust, nuts, and toasted biscuit; with lighter notes of molasses, leather, tobacco, herbal, floral, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Light-moderate herbal, floral, grassy, peppery bitterness on the finish. Lingering notes of caramel, brown sugar, toffee, raisin, plum, prune, fig, date, peach, pear, apricot, red apple, brown bread dough/crust, nuts, toasted biscuit, molasses, leather, tobacco, herbal, floral, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast, and light-moderate earthy hop flavors; with an awesome malt/bitterness balance, and no cloying/astringent flavors after the finish. Lightly increasing dryness from lingering bitterness. Light-medium carbonation and fairly full body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready/grainy, fairly sticky, and lightly slick mouthfeel that is great. Minimal warming alcohol for 11%. Overall this is a fantastic scotch ale! All around outstanding complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast, and light-moderate earthy hop flavors; very smooth and dangerously easy to sip on for the big ABV, with the mellowly bitter/drying finish. Fantastic balance of super rich malts and fruity yeast complexity; with nice earthy hop presence against sweetness. A highly enjoyable offering, and amazing style example.

Aug 07, 2013
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kawilliams81 from Illinois

4.19/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter.

Pours a dark brown with a trace of mocha head. Small trails of lacing.

Light chocolate, dark fruits, toast

Sweet toffee, brown sugar, dark fruits (cherries), light chocolate and light bitterness

Very drinkable, creamy and smooth. I would never guess this is 12.5%

Very nice beer. Not overly complex but nice dark fruit, sweetness and chocolate to this beer.

Jul 24, 2013
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Auror from Massachusetts

4/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

From Blind Bif 8. Unmarked 12oz poured into my CBS snifter.

No head formed at all despite a straight middle pour. Similar color to the last one, maybe a bit more roeby tones. (3.5)

Aroma is caramel, rich malts, plums, sliced apples, etc. A decent amount of alcohol in the smell as it warms. This is a strong beer, or perhaps bourbon barrel-aged. (4)

Thinking this has some age on it. Need to let it warm up a bit, because it’s a bit muddled while cold. No hops to speak of. Very slight oxidation. I expect some alcohol harshness from the feel and smell, but it’s just not really there. Definitely opens up as it warms. I get mostly some nice caramel malt and a figgy flavor. Definitely a malt forward beer, and the alcohol appears after some more warming. (4)

Carbonation is there, but minimal. Medium body and slippery. Quite nice. Not really chewy or viscous as I might expect from a higher abv barleywine or old ale, which is what I’m thinking, so that gives me a little pause. (4.25)

I’m thinking an aged barleywine or old ale, but probably not barrel-aged. Gonna go with Kuhnhenn Regular 4D, especially since it’s a 12oz. I’ve had the BB4D and imagine this could be what the un-barreled version tastes like. (4)

The reveal…. 2012 Kuhnhenn A Few Shillings Too Many Ale. Ugh so close after being so far off last time. It’s their Wee Heavy, not Old Ale. I zeroed in too close, probably should have guessed Wee Heavy. Either way, it’s a fine example of the style, and thanks Abraxel!

Jul 05, 2013
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wordemupg from Canada (AB)

4.13/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2012 355ml bottle poured into tulip 11/6/12 big cheers to liamt07 for sending me the bottle

A looks like some thick liquid, brownish maroon with big bubbles quickly rising to the surface, no head or lace but looks well carbonated

S sweet malts, caramels, nutmeg, booze, dark bread, sugar coated raisins, plums and a little spiced rum

T christmas cake with a little dried cherry, maybe just a little cola I didn't smell, other then that it mimics the nose fairly well

M thick and syrupy, could use a few extra bubbles but has a silky feel, sticky on the lips with rum raisin finish

O well concealed booze in a big beer, sweet and malty but it suites me fine, pretty solid but Its a little heavier then "Wee"

mellow but big, thick liquid and I almost want to dump it on some ice cream with all this caramel going on, worth looking for

Jun 12, 2013
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buschbeer from Ohio

3.77/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 Fluid Ounce bottle
Served in a Kuhnhenn's snifter
2012

A - It has a brown appearance until held to the light. Then the mahogany color comes through. It is topped with less than an inch of tan head after a slightly aggressive pour.

S - The smell has elements of caramel, toffee, ripe fruit, nuts, and alcohol.

T - The taste seems less complex. I taste some earthy flavors and some sweet malt and alcohol.

M - Medium with not a lot of carbonation.

O - I would have thought this would have aged well. It is not what I recall the draft version tasting like. The alcohol is warm and embracing. This is kind of a let down from a style that I am fond of.

Jan 31, 2013
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cosmicevan from New York

4.16/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

big thanks to steimie for hooking it up! 2012 vintage.

a - pours a deep crimson maroon with no head and hardly any lacing to speak of. swirling the glass creates some fleeting life, but for the most part there is just a thing ring of white bubbles along the surface.

s - ripe plums. raisins. caramel toffee. bready and even toasted.

t - yum. great balance of fruits and sweetness. big caramel maltiness with toffee bread and toasted plums. very well balanced.

m - feel is really nice. booze is really well integrated and invisible to me.

o - overall, another win from kuhnhenn. really great example of the style and really well integrated booziness. VERY enjoyable.

Jan 30, 2013
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SportsandJorts from Virginia

4.22/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Type: on-tap
Glass: pint
From: Ashley's in Ann Arbor
Price: i believe it was $6.50

Appearance: dark brown almost black. clear and by time i got it no head just a lacing along the sides.

Smell: a tad bit fruity. a little bit of bready yeast.

Taste: very fruity. bready malts, some sweetness. the alcohol is hidden completely in this one.

Mouthfeel: No heat from alcohol but dry and a little sticky.

Overall: Whoa. this is the first scottish wee heavy that i have truly enjoyed ( even with dirty bastard) Score another point for Kuhnhenn's which is gaining points towards my favorite MI brewery (behind Bell's and Dragonmead still)

Jan 26, 2013
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sweemzander from Illinois

3.99/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. 2012 release.

(A)- Pours a very deep and dark burn sienna color. Poured with no head or bubbles of any sort. Guess I am not THAT surprised since it is 12.5% ABV.

(S)- A very big beer for the style, I can tell already. A hugely dense burnt caramel, fig, and raisin going on in this. Quite sweet too.

(T)- Wowza, similar to the smell most, but not quite as sugary or boozy as I feared. It has a large body of burnt caramel, fig, and raisin. Finishes dry and a mild bitter spiciness. Some nice underlying notes of sherry, vanilla, and cocoa as well.

(M)- An extremely mellow; borderline flat carbonation level, but it is indeed carbed. It is ridiculously sweet and rich, but still less than what I was expecting based upon the smell. The big ABV on this is so well hidden too, though it does start to get a bit more noticeable as it warms.

(O)- This is quite the Wee Heavy! It definitely does not win any beauty awards, but it is one of the biggest takes on the style I have ever had. A bit too big to have more than one, but it is definitely an experience. Complex and dynamic with its huge malt profile.

Jan 09, 2013
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minterro from Colorado

4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From notes at Crunchy's

Not much head leading to not much lacing. Off white head.

Super drinkable for a scotch ale that’s plus 10%. Alcohol is super well hidden I would think it was almost half the abv if not told.

Full bodied low carbonation. Bready malts, bourbon, and boozy nose. Taste is a tad bit sour, dark fruits, and smokey. Not overpoweringly bitter or dry in the finish. Flavorful but not over whelming.

Dec 14, 2011
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warnerry from Michigan

4.17/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a deep reddish orange with only scant head, but a bit of lacing.

S -- Combination of sweet and earthy aromas with subtle bourbon notes. Caramel, faint peat and smoke.

T - Similar to smell with more caramel/toffee, but not really that sweet. Finish is actually semi-dry and earthy.

M -- Not as heavy as I thought it might be, but a solid medium mouthfeel that is spindly sticky but finishes a bit dry with some wood character.

O - I really enjoyed this. Not big and sweet, though there is some sweetness. Actually seems somewhat subtle for a big Scotch ale, in a good way.

Nov 16, 2011
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MasterSki from Canada (ON)

4.15/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I've shared two growlers of this in the past couple weeks. Most recently served in a Cigar City tulip. This batch is only listed at 9%.

A - Pours with a half-finger of tan foam that settles to a thick collar. Hazed orange-brown body with some transparency when held to the light.

S - Smoke and peat, caramel, burnt sugars, light alcohol. I know previous versions were barrel-aged, but I don't get a lot of overt barrel or bourbon presence. Perhaps some vanilla and faint whiskey, but those could merely be other flavors playing tricks on me.

T - Taste is more heavy with bready malts and toffee. Thankfully this isn't cloyingly sweet like many scotch ales I've had - some fruity esters in there as well. Quite smooth, with minimal alcohol presence - impressive when I thought it was 12.5%, merely appreciated at the listed 9% ABV. Still not much wood or bourbon.

M - Light carbonation zest, minimal heat, sticky and chewy medium-full body. Quite style-appropriate.

D - One of the better takes on the style that I've had, although I'd probably take Backwoods Bastard over this one. I had multiple pours without it getting overly saccharine or boozy. I'm just curious if it was actually barrel-aged like previous batches.

Jun 19, 2011
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Knapp85 from Pennsylvania

4.2/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was one of the more impressive brews I had tried at the brewery. It's got a really nice reddish orange color with a thin head on it. The smell was little light I thought, I could only pick up on some sweetness and not a whole lot else. The flavor was the best part of this beer. The flavor was sweet like the aroma and it had some nice hints of spice in there. The mouthfeel was very smooth and highly drinkable. I really enjoyed this beer!

May 04, 2011
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metter98 from New York

4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is clear amber in color and poured with a thin white head.
S: There are moderate aromas of brown sugar, caramel, dark fruits and toffee in the nose.
T: The taste is very similar to the smell and the brown sugar flavors contribute a light amount of sweetness.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied, very smooth and a bit sticky on the palate. There are hints of alcohol warming in the finish.
O: Considering its strength, the beer is very easy to drink because the alcohol is well hidden from the taste.

May 03, 2011
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brewdan from Michigan

3.63/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours an opaque brown. Small oatmeal colored head. Minimal lacing.

Smells strongly of dark fruit, raisins, dried plums, dark cherries with a hint of cinnamon.

Tastes a lot like it smells, strong dark fruits with a bittersweet cherry component. Alcoholic and fairly mouth puckering. Also fairly oxidized but it is over two years old now.

Mouthfeel is good overall. While carbonation is minimal I am glad it is neither flat nor overly carbonated.

I wonder what this beer was like fresh. It's decent now but fairly tart and I am thinking it was not like that fresh, although I kind of like it like this. Not really to style (now) but still enjoyable.

Mar 27, 2011
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maximum12 from Minnesota

3.24/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to lothore for shipping me a bottle of this during the dog days of summer. No idea this monster was so big on the alcohol when I brought it in. Yikes. A scary Halloween, indeed.

Pours pretty flat into my cleaned Ommegang chalice. Dark, but with some nice, Eric the Red-type highlights around the edges. Smell is wham-bang sweet & highly malty, not really expected. Whew. Almost roasted. I like where this is headed.

A Few Schillings Too Many is an accurate description...I wonder what they threw into this to make the ABV so high? Alcohol is in the house, but there's all sorts of wild things going on, not all of them good. Peaty wood is a close second to the backlash of alcohol, along with some strong notes of plum, raisins, & other dark, brooding fruits. Very weird combination, a melange of stuff thrown together that clashes rather than provides depth. The lack of carbonation doesn't help either, lending the brew a slick, oily, flat, wine-like touch on the tongue. Drinkable? Heck no. I'm going to work my way through this beast & keep trying to figure it out, but one & done here for sure.

Pretty good beer. Seems like too much jammed into one bottle, too much for its own good. Who knows, perhaps this one will be a gem in a few more years when the flavors gel like a fine jam, but then again, maybe not. A mess, but one that's interesting to plumb.

Nov 01, 2009
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pwoods from Ohio

3.97/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz. brown bottle poured into a snifter. ABV over 13%. Notes.

A: Pours a deep brown, ruby in the light. A decent head rises through the alcohol. Not much lacing.

S: Loads of alcohol goodness. A very small smoky quality. Rich malts that are full of alcohol.

T/M: super sweet but surprisingly not syrupy. More of the big alcohol but without any burn. some smoked meatiness in the back along with the smoke and very light peat. Deeply rich malts with some light dark fruits in the back. Body is only about medium and has lower carbonation.

D: Not to be taken likely but a very tasty brew.

Oct 30, 2009
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gford217 from Georgia

3.46/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Big thanks to Derek for another Kuhnhenn brew, poured into a tulip.

Pours very, very dark, almost black in the glass. It shows a deep, hazy copper when held up to the light. there is a small off-white head that quickly recedes to a solid ring and a soapy swirl on top. Not much lacing but some boozy legs on the sides.

The aroma is very sweet with the requisite caramel malts and some vanilla, but there is also a healthy dose of dark fruits in the nose and some hints of smoked peat. The faintest tart cherry whiffs start to come out, but it's very faint. There's a little alcohol burn in the nose as it warms.

The tart cherries show up early in the taste with an initial pop on the tongue that seems a little out of place. The sweet dark caramel malt base is definitely still in there as well as some dark fruits, especially raisins and figs. The finish has a slight smoked peat character but also some lingering sourness.

The mouthfeel is slick and typical of the last couple Kuhnhenn bottles I've had. It's not nearly as infected as the Rauch, but it's definitely headed that direction. I'm glad I read some of the comments about these beers and caught this one before it really turned. As it is, it's a decent scotch ale that was probably an excellent beer when it was released.

Aug 04, 2009
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tmoneyba from Ohio

4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft sample at MBGF Summer08.

Poured a dark brown color with a moderate frothy off-white head that mostly lasted with good lacing. Heavy roasted malt and caremel aroma. Medium to full body with a sticky texture. Medium to heavy sweet woody flavor with a medium sweet alcohol finish of moderate duration.

Solid drinkable brew.

Feb 21, 2009
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hopdog from Pennsylvania

4.62/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle (thanks Derek for getting this one off my want list!). 2008 Vintage.

After spending a couple hours at 'Bingo Bash' for my little one, I needed something strong to numb the pain so I reached for this one.

Poured a deep and dark orange/amber color, almost brown with a smaller sized off whtie head. Aromas of wood, earthy, peaty, and light bourbon. Tastes of woodiness, bourbon, caramel, dark fruits, brown sugary, vanilla, and toffee. Sweet with a very light dark cherry tart finish. Alcohol content well hidden. I got to say, this one was very nice and I'm going to have to get some more!

Feb 07, 2009
A Few Shillings Too Many from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 122 ratings