Fourth Dementia (4D)
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
Old Ale
Ranked #6
Ranked #1,428
4.29 | pDev: 8.86%
Mar 09, 2023
May 07, 2003
Notes: Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%
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Rated: 4.56 by MJSFS from Florida

Mar 09, 2023
Rated: 4 by rare_bird from Michigan

Feb 19, 2023
Rated: 4.12 by not2quick from Missouri

Feb 04, 2023
Rated: 4.55 by gshak from Texas

Jan 25, 2023
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Reviewed by Harrison8 from Missouri

4.19/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25
Pours a near-black until the last couple ounces, when it turns into a muddy brown with a burgundy-tint. Head is a finger of beige foam. Aroma is raisins, dark fruits, caramel, and toasty, caramely, bready malts. Faint bourbon and barrel come thru as well, but don't do enough to raise the temp of the aroma. It's potent, but balanced. Flavor profile packs a little bit more than the aroma, bringing raisins, dark fruits, caramel, toffee, and chocolate with roasty, caramely, and bready malts underneath. Faint whiskey underneath, which brings a little heat wave, but nothing that disrupts the balance. Mouth feel is medium-thick with a silty texture. Effervescence is soft. Alcohol flattens out the final third. Overall, an easy going 13.5% Old Ale that manages to display whiskey along the way, without being unwieldy. That said, it's still fill and fun.

Served in a 15.5oz Spiegelau tulip from a 12oz bottle. 2018 version. Consumed/reviewed 10/11/2022.
Oct 11, 2022
Rated: 4.23 by GeorgeAKeim from Oregon

Sep 05, 2022
Rated: 4.25 by GFK from Michigan

Sep 02, 2022
Rated: 4.25 by ryand14 from Michigan

Feb 11, 2022
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Reviewed by jrc1093 from Connecticut

4.14/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4
2013 vintage; consumed on 2/9/2022

Pours a clear, deep, ruddy chestnut brown body capped with a slight finger of fluffy, off-beige foam; solid head retention leaves a thin layer of intermittent cap, a thin, creamy collar, and virtually no lacing holding to the walls of the glass.

Aroma is entirely dominated by and centered around twangy raisin coursing throughout; an underlying dusting of bakers chocolate details figgy esters and faded caramels over time, while an increasingly luscious and jammy raisin holds focus.

Taste opens to raisin juice accented with toasted fig, burnt black bread, and molasses, with distant chocolate and wisps of nutty undertones progressing to the mid-palate as dark fruit jam peaks; brown sugar born from a residual sweetness phases into intermittent booziness amplifying subtler dark fruit esters as they linger through the finish.

Mouthfeel features a rounded medium body with a composed, moderate-high carbonation, lively yet rounded while dispersing to slick, semi-syrupy, even textures over the mid-palate, and eventually drying as a distant char balances a moderate warmth through the finish.

Approaching a decade in the bottle, this old ale has refined and embraced an undeniably one-note character, sparking depth through sheer focus on a singular profile development to showcase a concentrated display of age across a quality base; an increasingly decadent sipper by way of a stalwart longevity.
Feb 10, 2022
Rated: 4.46 by EMH73 from New York

Jun 18, 2021
Rated: 4.58 by ivegot3Dvision from Oregon

Jun 17, 2021
Rated: 4.52 by Ristaccia from Nebraska

May 25, 2021
Rated: 4 by blackcloud from Alaska

Apr 24, 2021
Rated: 4.25 by BeerRay from Rhode Island

Mar 19, 2021
Rated: 4.46 by Fireman_RK from North Carolina

Mar 18, 2021
Rated: 4.25 by smartassboiler from Illinois

Jan 23, 2021
Rated: 4.5 by ArsMoriendiOU818 from Virginia

Jan 13, 2021
Rated: 4.25 by Nichols33 from Massachusetts

Nov 23, 2020
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Reviewed by larryi86 from Delaware

4.57/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5
Blind review:
12 oz bottle poured into a wine glass

A- Black with a small mocha head. 4

S- Dark chocolate, molasses, bourbon, char oak, dark fruits, some toffee, slightly smoky. 4.5

T- Molasses, toffee, some dark chocolate, dark fruits, oak, some bourbon, touch of smoke. 4.75

M- Smooth, full body. 4.5

O- This is excellent, easy to drink and very well balanced. 4.5

After thoughts:
This is a 2 year old bottle and I’m getting an oaky quality to this, even though it is not the barrel aged version it does have a lot of flavors I tend to notice in barrel aged beers.
Jul 17, 2020
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Reviewed by cratez from Canada (ON)

3.78/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75
Rating from notes. Consumed January 2014. "Good in small doses due to aggressive sweetness. I enjoyed my sample but would never be able to finish a full bottle. Worth trying for the novelty though."
Jan 26, 2020
Rated: 4.4 by FreshZ from Missouri

Dec 10, 2019
Rated: 4 by detroitpat from Michigan

Dec 05, 2019
Rated: 4.35 by NolaHopHead from Louisiana

Sep 06, 2019
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Reviewed by pants678 from California

4.49/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75
Murky brown, some foam.


Syrupy sweet, brown sugary, could use some char/smoke flavor. High ABV is hidden. Maybe the faintest bit of tart. No complaints here, hits all the right notes.

Medium bodied.
Sep 06, 2019
Rated: 4.12 by Gambyt20 from Illinois

Aug 17, 2019
Rated: 4.09 by StoutSnob40 from California

Jun 12, 2019
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Reviewed by Dragginballs76 from South Carolina

4.79/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75
Appearance - Pours mahogany brown with a nice thick tan head that settles to a thick ring. Great lacing everywhere which surprised me for the ABV.

Aroma - Big aromas of fig, plum, oak, bourbon, very mild vanilla. Lots of toffee, caramel and brown sugar.

Taste - Oh lord, much sweeter than expected. Lots of brown sugar, caramel, raisin, fig and plum. Big vanilla in the taste much more than I picked up in the nose. Really a rich sweet flavor, the bourbon and oak come through well.

Feel - High side of medium, great carbonation slightly warming but very smooth and easy drinking for the ABV.

Overall - Excellent beer, I love the taste the nose did not prepare me for the vanilla sweetness.
Jun 02, 2019
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Reviewed by Jimmy_Kneecaps from Tennessee

4.92/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5
Look is dark brown and opaque with minimal khaki colored head. Aroma is crazy, toffee, caramel, dark fruits, vanilla, brown sugar, bready malts, and the slightest barrel hit. All the scents show up in the taste. Starts with dark fruits, then caramel, toffee, and brown sugar. The finish is strong sweet vanilla and bready malts. It’s sweet the whole time, but never overly sweet or like a dessert stout. Mouthfeel is pretty thick. Somewhat prickly but also kinda smooth. Overall this is world class amazing.
May 28, 2019
Rated: 4.72 by drunkenmess from Michigan

May 22, 2019
Rated: 4 by AleHunter805 from California

Feb 25, 2019
Rated: 4.15 by vande from Illinois

Dec 24, 2018
Rated: 4.41 by brandoneast from Texas

Dec 12, 2018
Rated: 4 by yesterdayfaraway from Missouri

Oct 07, 2018
Rated: 4.18 by Futbolmanby from Michigan

Sep 16, 2018
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Reviewed by rodbeermunch from Nevada

3.89/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
Pours a dark chestnut brown. Small lighter brown head 1/5". Aroma is quite boozy, but it also throwns a dense layer of rum cake malt booziness, chocolate, earthiness, wet wood, tobacco and wet leaves.

Taste takes those smells and puts a warm sherry like presence throughout the first few sips, it takes about 20% of the bottle to get accustomed to this. Molasses and raisins, the unsweetened variety. The amounts imperialized toffee and lesser caramel is not too damn high but it makes you think about it. You're not breathing fire but you can feel some of the heat on your tongue. Has that dense ass brick feel of a loaf of dark bread with booze dumped in the punch bowl.

In the right scene, these can be nice to chew on. A treat, but nothing I'm ever going to want to have multiples of in a sitting.
Mar 11, 2018
Rated: 4.6 by GreatStoutman from Texas

Feb 07, 2018
Rated: 4.5 by OompaMentor from Georgia

Jan 27, 2018
Rated: 4.11 by Gemini6 from Michigan

Dec 06, 2017
Rated: 4.04 by oriolesfan4 from Maryland

Jun 20, 2017
Rated: 4.49 by HaveUSeenMyCellar from California

Apr 22, 2017
Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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