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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,049
Reviews:
450
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
8.92%
 
 
Wants:
617
Gots:
214
For Trade:
25
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Photo of kirkfrailey
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

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4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

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4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

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4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of HaveUSeenMyCellar
4.49/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Richter525
4.49/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of taylorhamrick
4.49/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Recieved in a trade from hotpipes29.

It's a deep brown color, slightly hazy, with a decent 1 cm head, tannish colored, surprising for a 2-year old beer, I'd say. The smell is really nice. Comes off with a caramel/toffee sweetness from the malts. Really caramellized nicely in there. With notes of chocolate and cocoa. There are also some notes of tobacco, and a slight mustiness (maybe it's my imagination on this last one). Really fascinating, and very deeply complex. The taste just really fascinates you from the first, particularly if you like some malt. It just comes out with caramel, like caramel coated, herby, grass/straw, cola flavored grain, great maltiness here - very complex, but really sort of comes outright and tells you it's here. I get a nice flavor of chocolate, a little roastiness, which blends with a slight alcohol burn. The little bit of age has done wonders, and I can tell it will hold up for longer. The body has a huge thickness, sticky and sweet, but the carbonation peeks through with a strong enough presence to keep it from being cloying. This is really a great display of malt, and I found myself continually drinking it, almost too much, so I couldn't wait on it to warm enough to see the differences in flavor. Will keep you interested, I'd say. A great beer.

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Photo of Floydster
4.49/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle acquired in a trade with Faro, thanks for giving me the opportunity to try this brew, bottled on 2-16-05, best before date of 2011, has been in my cellar since October, poured into my Dogfish Head snifter

A-Ruby red color with some light brown highlights, 1/8 inch bubbly light tan head that went away immediately, no retention or lacing

S-Caramel, sweeet malt, booze, plums, figs, raisins, dates, still a hint of hoppiness after three years, oak, vanilla, brandy, oak, and sugar

T-Started off with a big caramel flavor, followed by some dark fruits and very sweet malt, the finish was warming with a hint of brandy and oak, as it warmed the sweetness popped out even more and the vanilla shined through with some booze in the aftertaste, probably more balanced with more hoppiness when fresh, but they recommend at least four months to six years of age for this brew, great flavor overall

M-Hot, sweet, and aggressive mouthfeel, thin to medium body, not much carbonation at all, taste lingered for a long time, attacked the taste buds

D-Could have drank more than one bottle of this, alcohol is hidden great for a beer above nine percent, smooth and easy to drink, not too heavy on the stomach

Second beer from Kuhnhenn and it was great like the first one, would love to try the bourbon barrel version of this, one of the better olde ales I have ever had, would love to drink again, highly recommended

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Photo of trxxpaxxs
4.49/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to northyorksammy for this bottle...

A: Pours a deep brown with only a faint khaki colored head. The foam fades quickly leaving only the tiniest of bubble rings along the edges of the glass. The beer has great legs and no lacing.

S: The nose is caramel, malt, raisin, plum, mild spice, and alcohol. It smells perfect for the style. I'm looking forward to this.

T: Right off the bat I get caramel, raisins, and cinnamon. As it moves to the middle, the alcohol begin to show as is mixes with stone fruits and nutmeg. There is a lot more spice in this beer than I would have imagined. The finish is mild spice, caramel, raisin, vanilla, and alcohol.

M: Full bodied beer. It syrupy and sticky from start to finish. The beer coats the palate and refuses to shift off. Totally cloying and sweet, with great residual flavors.

O: Great beer. I actually think I enjoyed this one more than the barrel aged versions. The caramel fruit and spice are more pronounced in this beer, where some of the subtleties get lost in the Barrel Aged version. Really nice. Would drink again/10.

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Photo of BelgianAleSlut
4.48/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage, 11.8%. ABV is quite different from other years apparently.

$23.99/6 12 oz. which is a bargain (1/2 off) compared to buying 6 drinks at brewery.

Pours dark toffee colored, semi-cloudy with nice thick head that dissipates slowly.

Smells like a malt soda.

Tastes very sweet, but is complex and comes in layers. The flavors change quite a bit from sip to swallow, and also sip to sip. Caramel, raisins, redpop, and has a little vinous quality. Enough bitterness to put up with all the malt - sweetness doesn't linger which helps to keep from getting sick from the high amount of sugar.

Thick on the tongue, creamy. Carbonation is subtle, however it is in good amount for beer.

Drinkability is good based on the need to only have one or two of these at a time.

Really like this beer, good to buy a six-pack and use one as a weekly reward for putting up with all the sh*t at work. Might be better to let this one age for a couple years.

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Photo of deonreds
4.48/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Photo of OldFrothingSlosh
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle courtesy of Frozensoul327. Brewed on 08-01-04. Best before 2010.

Color is a chunky-murky deep brown with amber notes. Despite the aggressive pour, there's little, if any, head to speak of. Just a tiny ring of tan froth 'round the edges. Aromas step up with a wonderfully-balanced blend of dark fruit, candied sugar, some extract of vanilla, and some oaken notes. Flavor is so very mellow. Delicate pattern of the dark druits again, drizzled with melted caramel sugar. Some vinous notes seep in towards the middle and are cleansed away by the bitterness mingled with brown sugar sweetness mixed with Heath bar chunks. Where is the alcohol in this bad boy? Only glimpses can be detected. Extremely smooth on the palate. The low levels of carbonation really "thicken" this up. One to definitely savor on this cold winter's night.

Extreme thanks to Frozensoul327 for this true gem.

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Photo of dogfishandi
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2010 Vintage

12oz bottle at fridge temp poured into a snifter split with fellow BA's. had this side by side with the 2010 BA 4D.

they both poured out with pretty much no head. poured out a slightly murky dark brown, the BA version was a little darker. pretty much no head, just a slight ring on the edges.

a very interesting aroma. a grapey kind of winey fruitiness. maybe some dates, figs. a graininess reminded me of some darker breads. also reminded me a lot of frozen apple juice from concentrate.

again lots of fruitiness, mostly the concentrate apple juice. also has a briney almost seaweed sensation, makes for a very interesting flavor. some dark fruits and just a hint of smokey meat.

smooth, a big body, but it hides the big ABV nicely. leaves a bit of stickiness on the palate.

a very interesting beer, not really like anything ive had before. i would definatly seek this out again, would love a few of these for the cellar. having the 2 side by side, i definatly enjoyed this one, the non barrel aged version, better. the BA one was just a bit too hot and kinda of muddled the awesome flavors in the regular one.

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Photo of jimmy82063
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 version at a whopping 13.5% poured into a brandy snifter. The appearance is murky brown, no head at all. The smell is of rasins butter rum and toffee. The taste combines the same with just a hint of oak. The mouthfeel is slick. Great beer...cellar worthy for sure!

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Photo of SpdKilz
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another big thanks to Erik (erikkoppin) for this kickin extra. Cheers! 2010 bottling.

Appearance – Pours into my LadyFace Tulip with a hazelnut brown color. About a half finger of slight tan head is achieved that dissipates relatively fast leaving pretty nice lacing on the sides of the glass.

Smell – Lots of toffee and caramel up front. Dark fruits emerge as the beer slowly warms giving off aromas such as plum and raisins. Slight wood, alcohol, and also brown sugar.

Taste – Holy cow. LOTS of candied sugar, toffee, caramel, and brown sugar. The more it warms the more it reminds me (and I’ve said this about another beer before which has slipped my mind) but it reminds me of the butterscotch candies my grandmother used to give me as a child. After the initial sugary blast the dark fruits come through…exactly as the nose; plum and raisin. Just an ever so slight hint of hop and bread come through at the end, along with citrus, though the end note is again sugary sweetness.

Mouthfeel – Whoo boy. Full bodied, thick, creamy, lower carbonation. Damn chewy (one of the thickest mouthfeels I’ve had to date). Practically syrupy though it seems to work as I slowly sip on this.

Overall – For being so “young” of a beer, I get literally almost no alcohol warmth nor taste. Amazing seeing as it is over 13% abv. A spectacular beer to sip and enjoy, and by golly I can’t wait to try the BB version of this. Very glad I was able to try this before the BB version. Glad I have another one of these to age.

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Photo of clay23
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of brewdan
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2008 vintage bottle.

Pours brown with a lively oatmeal-colored head.

Smells of malty dark fruits, figs, raisins, dates and vanilla.

Taste is very sweet. Banana bread, raisins, figs, etc. Also vanilla, caramel, and toffee. Rich and decadent.

Mouthfeel is really nice; thick and rich but a decent amount of fine carbonation makes for a creamy smooth mouthfeel.

A sipper for sure due to the high ABV and rich sweet flavors. The perfect beer for a fall day in MI.

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Photo of Brian700
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle from trbeer
11% ABV

Pours a dark garnet color with a tan head that settles down to a thin layer. Some lacing but not a bunch.

The aroma is great. Heavy molasses and dark fruit ( figs, raisins)

The flavor is also of heavy molasses, figs, dates, raisins. Must be maris otter malt because of the striking resemblance to Thomas Hardy. There is some alcohol presence giving it a warming sensation. This is a top notch beer.

The mouthfeel is full bodied with medium carbonation. Coats the mouth nicely and the flavor last long after the swallow.

This is a very drinkable beer and I MUST get my hands on some more. I highly recommend it.

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Photo of sholland119
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Pours a clear very dark amber. Thin tan rings around the glass, no lacing.

S-Currants, brown sugar, raisins and a bit of whiskey. Delicious.

T-Raisins, plums, hints of a red wine barrel, brown sugar and warming alcohol. Really tasty.

M-Remarkably light for the style and ABV. A bit of booze lingers on but otherwise very light to drink.

D-Excellent. I would love to have another one to drink...tomorrow.

HV

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Photo of vonnegut21
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 vintage poured into a tulip.

A: Deep black pour, slight tan head. Minimal lacing.

S: Lots of fig and raisin. Caramel and brown sugar notes linger. Lots of dark winter fruit character. Very nice.

T: HUGE fig, raisin and plum presence on the first sip. Caramelized brown sugar, molasses and slight roasted chocolate flavors follow. This has almost a port wine character to it. Very warming. A big ol' fig bomb. I need one of these on a cold winter night. Delightful.

M: Thick and viscous. Coats the tongue and provide a nice touch of warmth.

O: This was just excellent. I'm sure it's great fresh as well, but I think the two years in the cellar really took this one up a level. Quite possibly my favorite old ale. I can't wait to crack the BB4D sitting in my fridge. I don't think that one is making it until cold weather returns...

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Photo of Bradaplast
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of MeisterBurger
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep, brownish black topped by a thin head. Decent lacing.

The aroma is booze and raisins, bourbon maybe. Rum. Vanilla. Treacle and molasses. Lots of toffee and sweetness, lots of dark fruits.

Delicious sweet brown sugar and black liquorice. Salt water toffee. Lots of dark fruits. Some tobacco and vanilla. It's a tad boozy, but in a good way. The delicious malty sweetness is noticeable but is quashed perfectly with a mild bitterness. Just a complex yet wonderful depth of flavour here.

It's ligher than expected body actually works really well with all of the rich flavours that are going on here.

Very well rounded and enjoyable. Definitely a sipper and one is enough at any given time. But super enjoyable.

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,049 ratings.
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