Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) | Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BA SCORE
93.3%
Liked This Beer
4.29 w/ 1,049 ratings
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#629
Reviews:
450
Ratings:
1,049
Liked:
979
Avg:
4.29/5
pDev:
8.86%
Alströms:
0
 
 
Wants:
618
Gots:
214
Trade:
25
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Ratings: 1,049 |  Reviews: 450
Photo of augustgarage
3.78/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Received quite some time ago in trade, I forget who (thanks in any case!). 2010 vintage. Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Spirit Sippers snifter.

Coppery liquid glows a dark chestnut color when held to the light. Clear but very dark. A vigorous pour yields a pale apricot collar and surface slick. Good retention considering the age and ABV. Very fine pasty lacing and a fine sheen of lacquer is left around the rim.

Sweet, deeply malty, gently vinuous aromatics suggest burnt sugar, caramel malt, figs, dates, and berries and leather.

Potent grainy palate entry suggests an array of specialty malt, richly roasted and toasted to various degrees from light to black; a fruitiness emerges as well as does a mild sherry/port-like quality (more from fruit/alcohol than any oxidation). Hops are subdued throughout. Alcohol is strong and cuts through the flavor profile a bit much. Finishes warm and woody with an increasing dryness in the aftertaste despite the initial presence of sugars.

Medium-bodied, oily, with adequate carbonation.

A well crafted yet not entirely integrated example of the style - other than mellowing the alcohol further I'm not sure this would benefit from extended cellaring...better served to contrast a strong cheese.

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Photo of Photekut
5/5  rDev +16.6%

Photo of brewcrew76
4.53/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled on 2-16-05 - Best before 2011

A - Pours deep brown with mahogany and ruby highlights with the smallest tan head that disappeared immediately.

S - Rich caramel and toffee, rum soaked raisin, figs, prunes, dates, molasses and a woody, earthy leather smell.

T - Sweet rich caramel, carmalized brown sugar, nutty, molasses, woody bourbon like alcohol, dark fruits, raisins and a hint of vanilla. Complex.

M - Thick with little carbonation but not quite syrupy. Alcohol is noticeable but compliments flavor instead of taking anything away.

D - Hands down the best old ale I have tried. A very nice sipper.

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Photo of emottram
4/5  rDev -6.8%

Photo of cadaugherty
4.75/5  rDev +10.7%

Photo of IntriqKen
4.77/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This may be the sweetest desert beer I have ever had.
Poured a deep, deep dark brown with amber tones.
Aromas are caramel, dark chocolate, dark fruits like raisins, plums, burnt sugar (brown sugar?), and sweet alcohol.
Mouthfeel is slippery creamy smooth with light carbonation.
Taste is an amplification of the smell. Sugar, caramel, brown sugar, raisins, plums, stewed prunes, and sweet alcohol. Maybe a little toasted malt.
Aftertaste is sweet dark fruits with a comfortable warming.
This is an incredible desert beer.

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Photo of Deltoro
4.2/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of PG2G
4.4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of ckeegan04
4.46/5  rDev +4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Near impenetrable blackness with just a hint of dark ruby red highlights around the edge. Head is a thin light brown cap that quickly fades to an even thinner ring. When I think 13%+ old ale this is what it looks like right here.

S - Boozy dark fruits quickly waft from the glass upon the initial pour. Cherries, raisins and a bit of brandy. A hint of caramel sweetness comes through as the beer settles. The alcohol is really prevelant through this one and this one is at least 2.5 years old. I can only imagine what it must have been like fresh.

T - Boozy sweetness up front with tastes of sweet bread and caramel. Dark fruits quickly come through; lots of over-ripened cherries, a bit of fig and some brandy soaked raisins. Alcohol is really a dominant force throughout the drink and leaves a long lasting warmth in its trail.

M - Full bodied with light but sufficient carbonation. Sweetness and alcohol both linger long after the drink.

O - A superb beer. I have been holding onto this one for a long time and it certainly lived up to the hype. I will certainly be on the lookout for a way to land a couple of these in the future to toss in the cellar.

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Photo of GeoffreyM
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

Photo of mcrawford
4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of plumcrazyfx
4/5  rDev -6.8%

Photo of BUNZILLA
4.75/5  rDev +10.7%

Photo of BlurryVisi0n
4.31/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Served in an over-sized wine glass (La Trappe signature glass).

Appearance: A really dark almost opaque hazy brown. What kills me is the head, there is none. I can tell just by appearance this brew might lack carbonation. Head for what is is maybe 1/10', light tan.

Smell: Strong burnt brown sugar scent that is more aroma than anything else...it hovers your nose like heat to a flame.

Taste: What a strong alcohol taste this beer has granted the ABV level is well above average. Heavy molasses feel which makes you feel sweetness makes you think this beer was aged in bourbon barrels.

Mouth: Light carbonation and when it comes to an old ale I was expecting a little more, as far as stickiness is concerned this brew sticks like moth to a light. I put it down and pairing it with sharp cheddar cheese it just doesn't leave. Flat somewhat sticky very and for that I won't hate on quality.

Overall: Would I buy this again, I know the mouth feel isn't what it is supposed to be but this is a quality brew. it improves literally after every sip. Can't remember how much it costs, but F' it you only live once. Salud!

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Photo of MisterKilderkin
4.75/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of BeerHunter76
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

Photo of NJB145
4.29/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of SaxmanRick
4.79/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of Brabander
4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this beer from my buddy bierenuts, thanks Dave!

Poured in my Struise glass the beer looks very nice, a very lightbrown head with a nice brown fluid. Not much or no carbonation. The head stays quit a long time. A good and boozy smell with some sweetness (caramell) and oak.

Taste is similar to the smell. Although this is not my style i like this beer very much.

Thanks Dave!

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Photo of bonkers
4.42/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I picked up this 2010 vintage bottle in Secret Halloween 2011. The pour is a muddy caramel with a slight white head. The aroma is wonderful, lots of caramel and toffee, hints of alcohol. Taste as good as it smells, mild alcohol on the finish. The body is full, sticky mouthfeel, light carbonation. A great very enjoyable beer, thanks Michael.

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Photo of GonzoHomebrewer
4.35/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2011, poured into a KtG tulip

A- viscous ruby/mahogany/dark brown pour with a hint of a head that dissipates quickly into a ring around the class. inviting

S- toffee, fig, dark fruit, maybe some graham cracker? I dunno, there's a lot going on, smells sweet and decadent

T- Somehow even richer on the palette. toffee, burnt marshmallow, brown sugar, decadent.

M- thick, almost cloyingly syrupy, could use some more carb to be just a touch less sticky, great nonetheless and goes with the decadent vibe of the brew

O- if this wasn't so sticky, I'd say I could drink this anytime, but I'm wishing I had saved it for a cold winter rather than a cooler summer eve. Decadent brew that is worth seeking out

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Photo of bowzer4birdie
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

Photo of facundoCNB
4.57/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2011 bottle poured into a snifter.

a murky dark brown pour, slight amount of head which quickly turned into a tan ring of foam around the glass.

smells of caramel, chocolate, rum, nuts, raisins, coconut, vanilla.. this is a very sweet smelling drink and i can't wait to taste it.

ok enough waiting! holy cow this is fantastic. a dark caramel, dark chocolate, fruity sweet, very christmas-like ale. all of the sweetness of this drink masks the abv wonderfully to the point where it isn't noticeable at all (in the flavor). a nice sugary aftertaste of wet pecans.. seriously this is excellent.

full body, low carbonation.. a very heavy sipper! barely any feel of the alcohol, aside from a veru subtle warmth in the chest area.

this really is an excellent ale - i can't even imagine what the bourbon barrel aged 4d is like. this honestly feels like it's been barrel aged.

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Photo of jmarsh123
3.05/5  rDev -28.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours dark brown with red tinges along the edges. Completely still despite a vigorous pour.

Lots of fig in the aroma along with raisin, burnt molasses, caramel and a little booze.

A bit of a malt bomb. Still lots of raisin and fig, but the sugars dominate a bit more. Alcohol is slightly present, but fairly well hidden for the ABV.

Already sweet and medium to full bodied the almost non-existent carbonation enhances the syrupy aspect and makes it almost unbearable.

Overall just kind of average flavors and the low carbonation really enhances the poorer aspects. Definitely not a fan.

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Photo of HarmonMW
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Beer rating: 93.3% out of 100 with 1,049 ratings
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