Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) | Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,049
Reviews:
450
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
8.92%
 
 
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617
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214
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Photo of Roze
2.73/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Photo of MbpBugeye
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks normyk, this is a long time want.

As expected, very minimal head. Beautiful deep rusted chestnut. Deep, rich butternut and toffee aromas. Lots of caramel and alcohol on the nose.The taste is great. Strong toffee, caramel and nuttiness. I can't wait to try the-bal aged version, but honestly it can't get much better than this.

This beer is pretty huge but it enters a different realm of drinkability, sipability. The cant recall the ABV on my bottle but it was in the 13% neighborhood. This is a long evening sipper. Just the thing you need this time of year.

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Photo of zac16125
4.64/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a snifter
2011 Vintage

A big thanks to muskiesman for sending this one over in a trade

A: Pours a somewhat viscous opaque very dark brown, almost black, with no head to speak of, only a slight outer ring so small I can't even determine the color.  Leaves effectively no lacing.  

S: Big aroma.  Dark fruits with fig, raisin and date notes, woody oak aroma even though this is not the barrel aged one, hints of bourbon, black licorice, a small amount of booze, and a hint of vanilla extract.  Awesome.  

T: Dark fruit sweetness up front in the form of overripe plum and fig, with lots of different flavors coming through on the back end including coffee, dark chocolate, and roasted malt. As it warms I get a big toffee character, which is great. I also pick up burnt toast, some vanilla, a nutty character, and a subtle hint of booze that only comes out towards the end of the glass. This is well balanced and so complex, taking your palate through multiple flavor levels with each sip.  Really fantastic, bordering on perfect.  

M/D: Smooth, about as full bodied as you can get, with appropriately low carbonation, and a sticky, somewhat chewy mouthfeel.  Coats the palate nicely, and has a whole body warming characteristic.  Amazingly, I get almost none of the massive 13.5% ABV, either on the nose or the tongue, impressive!  Even with the ABV masking, it's still a sipper due to the thick consistency and massive flavor profile, but that's how big old ales and barleywines should be, and all things considered the drinkability is actually quite good.  

O: Wow, what a beer.  Not for everyone, as this is a big, bold brew. But if you are a fan of the style it's an absolute must try.  Does this beer get better with barrel aging?  I'm not sure it can, as there isn't much room for improvement, but I can't wait to try the BB4D and find out.  Highly recommend.  

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Photo of Cubatobaco
4.4/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of JDizzle
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of krl2112
3.5/5  rDev -17.8%

Photo of SinjaminBentek
5/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Photo of klipper
4/5  rDev -6.1%

Photo of SaxmanRick
4.79/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of Prospero
4.19/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of dkw0063
4/5  rDev -6.1%

Photo of brdc
4.09/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Derek hoppymeal for this one.

It pours a dark, hazy brown beer with a reddish hue that has a minimal tan head with almost no retention.
A complex, delicious aroma that starts sweetish, evolving into layers of caramel, choclate milk, toffee and even some hops are quite discernible, all permeated by a powerful but pleasant alcohol.
This full-bodied brew has quite a complex taste, starting sweetish as expected, caramel-like, evolving into a hoppy bitterness, then a warming alcohol followed by a dry finish.
This "alcoholic" presence is at times too pronounced, and at the end of the beer it can get too much, compromising its drinkability.
Nonetheless, it is quite pleasant and well-crafted.

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Photo of starrdogg
3.75/5  rDev -12%

Photo of Chingringo
4.25/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of Urbancaver
4.16/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 bottle picked up from the back room of a wonderful little beer store near Warren...

A: Pours dark mahogany with an orange tint. Ample carbonation... (unlike some of the other reviews of this beer). Pretty prominent head that hangs around for quite a while.

S: Dark Fruits hit my nose first. Followed by roasted malts and earthiness.

T: Fruity, malty, caramely goodness, hints of hoppiness and alcohol followed by some aftertaste that I can't place. Very sweet and almost barleywine tasting.

M: Syrupy feel with prominent carbonation leaves this feeling rather to my taste. Thick but lightened by the carbonation a bit

D: A bit strong still to be easily drinkable... Definitely a great beer though

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Photo of kawilliams81
4.2/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2011 vintage. Poured from 12 oz bottle into 8 oz glass.

A- Pours a dark amber with a 1 finger tan head. Minimal lacing around the edge of the glass.

S- Sweet amber malts, slight vanilla, some brown sugar. So sweet I guess.

T- Sweet toffee, toasted malts, slight roast and bitterness.

M- Full body and medium carbonation. Slick, viscous feel.

O- Very good old ale. On the sweeter side but still very good.

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Photo of FreshmanPour77
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of tmoneyba
4.3/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft at MBG Festival in Ann Arbor.

Poured dark amber with medium head that diminished slowly with good lacing. Full complex sweet aroma. Medium body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Complex sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish that was cut short by the alcohol bite.

Good beer for after dinner cigar.

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Photo of DaPeculierDane
4.4/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

In many ways 4th dimension is much more like a cordial or after dinner liquor than a beer. Its viscosity appears as such and its booziness is so forthright, rich, and fiery in powerful ways. The appearance is quite pleasing – a deep crimson tinged ruby body. Truly a unique and brilliant color. Lacing is minimal to say the least but that’s highly forgivable in such a large beer. Fruity alcohol aromas dominate the nose. Raspberry, mulberry, and cherry. Then toffee and biscuits come into play and finally the whole endeavor is finished with tobacco and rounded out with vanilla. The flavor doesn’t diverge much from the nose. Dark fruits rule here as well, mostly berries but also some plum and raison. Toffee is also a large component. Herbal, boozy finish. Not drinkable in large quantities. A real after dinner sort of sipper and quite the well rounded, hyper warming, fun big beer. I would really like a growler or two of this around Christmas to sip on while sitting around the fire.

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4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of paco1029384756
4.57/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a deep mahogany color with a short creamy off white head.

Scent of dark fruit, grassy hops, caramel, and alcohol. Strong and boozy, very good.

Taste of caramel, chocolate, earth, honey, molasses, sugars and hops. Sweet and a bit spicy, delicious.

Mouthfeel is medium heavy bodied with good carbonation.

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Photo of mgr78704
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of Kuges
4.35/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of MuddyFeet
3.28/5  rDev -23%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer is so lifeless it reminds me of death and graveyards. Absolutely flat but it does not really take away from the appearance or mouthfeel. Brown with a bit of red in that there glass. No head, no bubbles. Could not get much from the nose even though I dug my nose way down in the glass.

Nice and sweet with lots of raisins going on. Malts are very mellow and earthy. Alcohol comes out at the end a bit--but not overly. Honestly, this beer is a bit one dimensional and kind of drab. Kind of like when you realize after the paint has dried that you picked out the wrong color for the walls. Fine and drinkable but just kind of boring and uninteresting.

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Photo of wellsnb
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,049 ratings.
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