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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,049
Reviews:
450
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
8.92%
 
 
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616
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214
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Photo of axeman9182
4.14/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle courtesy of WeisGuy. This 2010 vintage was allowed to warm some before being poured into my petit Duvel tulip.

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia pours a deep mahogany, with a couple spots of ruby appearing once the beer’s backlit. There are maybe two fingers worth of khaki colored head crowning the beer, and head retention and lacing are just alright. The nose has a bevy of malty notes bouncing around. Light chocolate, caramel, burnt sugar, and a little bit of marshmallow all show up and blend together for a killer aroma. The flavor profile can’t quite keep up the same balanced complexity though. Caramel and burnt sugar move up from ensemble players in the aroma to the main attraction here. Milk chocolate falls way into the background, while the suggestion of marshmallow disappears. The mouthfeel is full bodied, but as rich as t could have been for 13.5% ABV. The carbonation is pleasantly understated, and there’s a pleasant warming sensation from the alcohol. Overall Fourth Dementia is a wonderful beer. I can see why I enjoyed the barrel aged version so much.

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Photo of Calculat0r
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of russpowell
4.22/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got this from Biergartenok, cheers Freddie!

2010 version pours a brownish-mahogany with a pinky of brown.cocoa head. Above average head retention & lacing

S: Sherry, dark fruit & a touch of Bourbon

T: Figs, black currant, dryness, a touch of charred grain up front. Boozey figs as this warms, a touch of cherry & raisin as well, plus plenty of oaky dryness & kist a touch of woody & herbal hops & some toffee notes. Finishes dry, woody, herbal witm much figgyness, a touch of prunes that doesn't help the flavor, some cherry=flovred pipe tobacco & marmalaide

MF: Chewy with minimal carbonation, skews fruitty/malty, warming

This baby screams English flavor, hops are very subtle. This is a nice fire-side ssipper, would love to try a fresh bottle for comparrison, but this is tasty enough as it is

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Photo of jimmy82063
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 version at a whopping 13.5% poured into a brandy snifter. The appearance is murky brown, no head at all. The smell is of rasins butter rum and toffee. The taste combines the same with just a hint of oak. The mouthfeel is slick. Great beer...cellar worthy for sure!

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Photo of AnPiobaire
4.32/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a goblet. 4D poured a thick muddy brown with barely a cream colored halo for a head. The nose is malty and rich with strong notes of fig. Very pleasant. The taste is a rich malty sweetness with toffee and fig. The mouth is thick and viscous with minimal carbonation. Overall, this is a very decadent old ale that is far from sessionable but is very tasty and one I am glad to have tried. Enjoy!

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Photo of crossovert
4.3/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2010 Vintage.

It pours a dark brown, more or less black with a fizzy and small light tan head. It quickly fizzes away with just a few specks of lacing. Kind of expected at this abv, but yet some brewers manage to produce beers with decent heads at this abv.

The smell is good. There is a noticeable old ale base. The bourbon and oak aren't overpowering but still highly noticeable. There is a huge amount of dark fruits and a hint of soy.

The taste is rich with bourbon and dark fruits. Really deep dark fruit notes. The bourbon adds a bit of alcohol, vanilla, and caramel. It isn't too alcoholic in the taste though, not too hot. It warms the tummy for sure though. It feels like you are drinking a liqueur rather than a beer taste-wise.

This is a beer that combines the best aspects of an old ale with some really good barrel notes. I would recommend tracking down a bottle.

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Photo of BrainDad
4.66/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Hopcat. Six bucks for a glass of heaven!

Looks a beautiful deep amber. Like Churchill's snifter waiting for a cigar to get going. Not much head but with lacy lacing down the side.

Not a lot of aroma to be found but the flavor is smooth and brandy-like, slight sweet (others liken it to marshmallow). Rolls perfectly off the palate and down the throat.

A great sensual experience to savor. Thank God I live in Michigan!

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Photo of schlimenhaumer
4.3/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a Southampton snifter at low altitude.

A: Pours a semi-transparent dark copper/ruby color with almost no head, which is unsurprising given the ABV. Leaves a little bit of lacing on the glass because it's so viscous.

S: A strong sweet malty smell. Marshmallows, caramel malts, raisins, prunes. The alcohol doesn't come through very much in terms of smell.

T: This one is sweet and malty all the way through, while still managing to remain well-balanced. Sugar, toffee, marshmallows, caramel malts are all at play here. No alcohol burn on the finish.

M: Full-bodied, sticky and wet without much carbonation. Fits the flavors quite nicely.

D: This would be ideal as a dessert beer. It's sweet, but not overpoweringly so. The alcohol is concealed very well, so this one could be dangerous. Definitely worth trying if you have the chance.

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Photo of elricorico
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of acurtis
4/5  rDev -6.1%

Photo of jmpizzo
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of perrymarcus
4.17/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle served in a snifter.

pours a murky, deep amber / mahogany tone while yielding a short-lived 1/4" beige head - to be expected given the big ABV here.

nose is fairly complex and enticing, offering a lot of dark fruit, caramel / toffee, molasses, and some vanilla. alcohol presence also evident.

all of the aforementioned pull through in the flavor. big dark fruit and caramel / toffee presence mingles with secondary notes of molasses, vanilla, and a touch of anise. chewy, full bodied mouthfeel with slightly below average carbonation.

overall there's a lot to like here; very tasty brew. the barrel aged version, however, is in another league.

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Photo of NikkoE82
5/5  rDev +17.4%

Photo of imperialking
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of msuspartan22
5/5  rDev +17.4%

Photo of grittybrews
4.09/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From South Sound tasting notes:

Poured a murky reddish-brown with a trace of dirty head. Really nice aroma of toffee, vanilla, molasses, and dark fruit.

Moderate carbonation and a full, sticky mouthfeel. Very sweet with caramel, molasses, oaky bourbon, and some muted dark fruit and vanilla. Some distinct alcohol burn on the tail end.

Nice flavors but too sweet for me to handle.

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Photo of akttr
3.5/5  rDev -17.8%

Photo of Beertracker
4.51/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Kuhnhenn's Fourth Dementia (Olde Ale 2008)[11.8%] pours up with an excessive amount of carbonation that foams upon release of the crown creating a volumous craggy beigish-cream colored head that envelopes the glass above the murky chestnut brown body. The head retention is rather pour, but expected given the alcohol%. The aroma is extremely complex with layer upon layers of meloidins & maltiness with secondary notes of apple butter, caramel flan, maple syrup, treacle pudding & vanilla custard that changes with each whiff. Alcohol is noted, but certainly well integrated. Hint of oxidation is beginning to creep in. The flavor is extremely generous with a sweet, but not overly cloying caramel richness supported by a wonderfully inviting toastiness e.g. buttered pecan/pralines with some chocolate notes and hoards of maple goodness e.g. maple cream cookies that gives way to just a bit of earthen bitterness offering a bittersweet candy finish that warms the soul with its surreptitious alcoholic strength. This full bodied old ale is overly effervescent per style, quite chewy & lacks some finesse, but don't let that stop you from partaking in this wonderful elixir. KbC's 4D is truly American in origin, but carries a unique old world charm. Enjoy the Madness!

CHEERS! Beertracker

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Photo of barleywinefiend
4.27/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a caramel color with a nice tan cap and some bubbles

S: Holy caramel, bourbon, figs, raisins and booze

T:Immediate caramel sweetness with some bourbon heat and a massive amount of residual sugar. Figs, riasins and tobacco are very prevelant in this beer, all the way through. Caramel, toffee and big sugar seem to be the key notes

M: Warm, sweet and boozey on the end. Medium to big body, well carbonated

O: Very nice but as sweet as this beer is a sure headache and sugar rush would follow on a single beer. Wow.

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Photo of commis
5/5  rDev +17.4%

Photo of ATPete
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.88/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 release, acquired from raznug courtesy of the Under 100-3 BIF, so a big “Thank You” goes out to him. Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a deep reddish brown color, with a thin light brown head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains brown sugar, bourbon, caramelized malts and some hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with flavors of bourbon, caramel and brown sugar. Then a significant alcohol sting comes in followed by a hearty malt character. The hops presence is mild but brings a decent balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, ABV listed on the bottle is 12.50% so a very strong kick, very good representation of style, this is a solid stronger beer but there are others in the style that I would choose first.

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Photo of mrebeka
4.5/5  rDev +5.6%

Photo of fcdepalm
5/5  rDev +17.4%

Photo of jophish17
4/5  rDev -6.1%

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,049 ratings.
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