Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) | Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
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4.29/5
1,049 Ratings
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#626
Reviews:
450
Ratings:
1,049
pDev:
8.86%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
616
Gots:
214
Trade:
25
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Photo of claspada
4.67/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Adding 2009 edition, sampled 2/9/12.
Aromas are the same minus the musty, oxidized qualities.
The tastes are identical and equally as enjoyable as I remember. Dark fruits and light cocoa dominate.
Mouthfeel is crazy coating and amazing.
Overall, I love this beer, considering moving to Michigan to have direct access every time this is released.

Adding 2007 Vintage tasted 1 month after 2005.
The pour had more more evident carbonation/head retention.

Aromas begin with light chocolate. with the below sweet and fruity malts as well. Less of a musty, earthy, leathery presence. Less sweet toffee and more dark chocolate.

The tastes are fairly close to the previous with lots of dark chocolate and dark fruits. Baker's cocoa becomes more apparent as it warms. Zero alcohol tastes or aromas here. This further verifies my beliefs that beer needs to be consumed within 5 years.

Mouthfeel is super full with medium carbonation; much much more than the 05 I had a couple weeks back. Glorious full finish, luscious almost.

Overall I think this beer is at it's peak after 4 years, the 6 year version showed signs of breaking down but this is freakin' epic. I am adjusting my original ranking to reflect this 2007 perfection. Although this is much more chocolatey and cocoa forward than I expect in an Old Ale, it is still probably the best example I have ever had. I just love that dark, bitter, fruit balance.

Sampling 2005 vintages of Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D).
Aromas start with deep dark caramelized brown sugar maltiness and sweet toffee as well. Cocoa and dark dark cherries become quite apparent as this opens up. Lesser notes of leather and earthy/musk in the background with some inevitable alcohol as well.
The tastes follow the nose to a tee. Loads of dark caramel maltiness coupled with equal amounts of toffee sweetness and dark brandy soaked cherry flavors. Lesser notes of cocoa and earthy/leather on the back end (much less compared to the initial flavors mentioned above). Alcohol bite is non-existent which makes sense after 5+ years. Molasses and dark fruits (figs and dates) linger on the palate now that this is room temperature.
The mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with low carbonation, which I usually hate but it works here. Chewy and finishes mildly sticky.
Overall, this is a great old ale; a bit heavy for the style in the dark malt/cocoa flavor profile but absolutely still delicious. Brandy soaked toffee covered cherries is a single sentence descriptor. This has aged superbly and shows no signs to deterioration even after 5+ years.

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.77/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Big Thanks to JJFoodie for this amazingness!

A - Pours a wonderful garnet color, with a minimal sized head, tan/yellow in color. Left a surprisingly nice amount of scattered, bubbly lacing.

S - Huge malty notes, lots of sweetness; candied dark fruits, toasted marsh mellow as the label predicts, almost chocolaty.

T - Sweet, but not cloying. Complex rather. Big sweet dark fruits, lots of malts, that toasted marsh mellow again and again with the chocolaty finish. It's complex to the point that it makes description a feat.

M - The feel is viscous, with a viscosity that rivals some stouts. There's an almost chewiness to it, naturally full-bodied, but the finish is clean. Carbonation level is easily next to none, giving way to a wonderful creaminess.

D - You can't smell or taste the alcohol in this monster, but it does create a bit of warming that lets you know that it's there. Drinkability is dangerously good due in part to that, but you'd be wise to limit yourself to one. (Un)Luckily for me, I had but 1 bottles, so I shall be forced to stop at that.

Wonderful Old Ale.

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Photo of ckeegan04
4.46/5  rDev +4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Near impenetrable blackness with just a hint of dark ruby red highlights around the edge. Head is a thin light brown cap that quickly fades to an even thinner ring. When I think 13%+ old ale this is what it looks like right here.

S - Boozy dark fruits quickly waft from the glass upon the initial pour. Cherries, raisins and a bit of brandy. A hint of caramel sweetness comes through as the beer settles. The alcohol is really prevelant through this one and this one is at least 2.5 years old. I can only imagine what it must have been like fresh.

T - Boozy sweetness up front with tastes of sweet bread and caramel. Dark fruits quickly come through; lots of over-ripened cherries, a bit of fig and some brandy soaked raisins. Alcohol is really a dominant force throughout the drink and leaves a long lasting warmth in its trail.

M - Full bodied with light but sufficient carbonation. Sweetness and alcohol both linger long after the drink.

O - A superb beer. I have been holding onto this one for a long time and it certainly lived up to the hype. I will certainly be on the lookout for a way to land a couple of these in the future to toss in the cellar.

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Photo of spinrsx
4.3/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance – Hazy brown colour with an average size off-white coloured head. There is a low amount of carbonation showing and there is some really good lacing. The head lasted for around 5 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Malts, caramel, hops, dark fruits, vanilla

Taste & Mouth - There is a slightly below average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, caramel and toffee. There is also a touch of hop bitterness and I can taste some raisins and light vanilla. The beer finishes with a sweet buttery and malty aftertaste.

Overall – You'd never guess that the beer had 13.5% alcohol. It's very well hidden and while the taste is very sweet it isn't too over the top. I'd definitely like to have a few bottles of this on hand for the colder months. It's a well crafted and well balanced beer and is well worth seeking out.

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Photo of BBP
4.57/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A- Pours dark chestnut. What looked like good head potential fell back into a film. Luckily the film lasted for the duration of the drink. Slight lace to this one. Moderate carbonation.

S- Carmel, sugars, prunes, and vanilla. A bit like a quad, but lacking the sharp sweetness in the nose.

T- While picking apart the flavors in drinks can be tricky at times, the first thing that I registered was delicious. The hard part will be explaining that. I'm noticing that it just gets better with each sip too.

There's an ever so slight hop base and lots of carmel, spiciness, and wood character on top of it. The sweetness is strong, but not one bit repulsive either. I'm a huge fan of bitterness, and this one feels perfectly balanced to me.

This is an excellent example of using prolific amounts of malt without letting them own the drink. My favorite part of the drink is the aftertaste. It's full of oak and a tinge of carmel that just sets in and holds on for a while.

M- Full, creamy body. The carbonation isn't hard on you, and the alcohol doesn't leave any bad heat either.

O- This is a beer that was far better than I was expecting. I randomly picked it up at the store as a single, and almost feel that it's too good to be a random. The next time I see this I'll opt for the 4pk.

This is a beer that has a lot of depth to it. It's also damn drinkable for 13.5%. It's easy to get hit by this fast.

I'm curious to see how some age will treat it.

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Photo of SiepJones
4.28/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark chestnut in color. The beer is darker in color when I look through the side of my glass as not much is visible through it. When I look down on my beer from above it is much lighter in color and I can see the bottom of my glass. Not a lot of head on the pour. There is only a thin layer of bubbles collecting around the edges of my glass as the carbonation rises to the top.

S: The scent is sweet and syrupy like a fine rum. There is lots of toffee, caramel present with a slight hint of alcohol on the end.

T: The flavor is that of sugary sweet malt, with a heavy toffee presence. I can't put my finger on it but it tastes like some sort of sweet baked good.

M: A very smooth mouth on the beer, I almost want to describe it as "fluffy". Silky smooth with hardly any carbonation present. I am surprised that at 13.5% ABV there isn't more alcohol presence in the flavor or in the mouthfeel. I don't detect any alcohol bite on my tongue, but can feel my head getting warmer while I drink.

D: An enjoyable sipper that has all the characteristics of an easy drinking beer. I had no problem getting through the first six ounces of beer but have significantly slowed down since then. I will not have anything else besides water after I am done.

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Photo of EricCioe
4.19/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to SalukiAlum for sending this one along.

This pours a deep mahogany with just a one finger offwhite cap that dies down to a ring and an island with little hints of lace, but just hints. The nose is an unreal mixture of toffee, caramel, dark fruits, brandy, oak, and alcohol. The heat is pleasant and sort of enhances the caramel and dark fruit rather than overpowering them. In the mouth, the nose repeats, toffee and caramel as the backdrop, with something like brandy soaked figs a bit more centered. It's pretty boozy but then at 13.5% what do you expect? And as in the nose, the alcohol doesn't really detract from anything so much as amplify certain flavors already there. The body not quite full but close, not sticky, not cloying, just pleasant with a nice, long finish. That's the only part for me where the booze starts to overwhelm.

Overall, this is a fine, fine brew, probably my favorite old ale or barleywine that I've ever had. I'd love to do a side by side with this and JW Lees Harvest with similar age on them.

A year and a half later, had this next to BB4D, and this seemed a bit much on the burnt sugar. The barrels rounded off those flavors just a bit and added a nice backing warmth. Both highly recommended, but BB4D takes the cake for me.

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Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
3.7/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

aquired as an extra in trade with kdub87. Thanks!

Poured into tulip glass.

Appearance: ruby red body almost brownish in color. Head is light tan in color. Sone decent lacing here.

Taste: Nice malty beer with the flavor of ale yeast that makes its slf know as well. Malts taste of sweet caramel and toffee. Some dark fruits linger around in the back ground of the beer. Alcohol is present in a very minor way and has no boozy burn. Its really nice and malty!

Mouthfeel: Creamy and smooth. Full bodied and moderate carbonation.

Overall: Solid beer by Kuhnhenn. This is my first beer by this brewery. I think I prefer Founders Curmugedeon, but this beer is still on the same scale! Thanks Kirk! Up next is the Barrell aged version!

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Photo of hopsbreath
4.17/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to GraniteSkunk for a bottle of this! 2009 batch. 12oz bottle poured into my pair of Portsmouth snifters and shared with TulipSnifter.

A: Tobacco hued with good clarity, some dark brown floaties, good finger and a half of beige head, leggy, good looking beer, my fault for not decanting better. 4/5

S: Was this really the -bal version? Sweet dark booze with a strong dose of fig dominates the aroma. Notes of sherry promise well aged old ale to come. It's one of those beers I could sniff for days. 4.5/5

T: Warming alcohol bites first. Sweet cocoa, dried stone fruits, toast, caramel, and some tart notes make for a very tasty beer. I just had an Adam yesterday. The smoke from that is missed here. 4/5

M: Great body; not too thick, not too thin. Smooth and gliding on the palate with very little carbonation. Sticky sweet finish, but it's an old ale... That's what I expect.

O: It's not quite Adam, but it's still damn good. 4/5

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Photo of chugalug06
4.52/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Hard to pour a large head due to the high ABV. Very nice Amber color with red and brown hues. Very thin legs, but run nicely.

S - Very strong scent. Smells like slight heat. Maybe slight oak and strong caramel. Amazing scent; almost cherry

T - WOW! Very delicious! I haven't had one like this in a while... Cherry??? Very little alcohol burn.

M - Very nice carbonation. Doesn't distract, at all. Little to no bitterness. A very heavy delicious brew.

O - A great brew, 1st time I've had it since GABF last year. Love this one! Great brew a must try and a must find!

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Photo of biga7346
3.87/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - A rusty burgundy, pours flat w/ a little soapy head and very little lacing.

N - Huge boozy notes up front flirting with suggestions of bourbon-whisky, vanilla bean, pineapple, sugar cane and toffee-ish. Reminds me of a creme brulee or tiramisu. Lots of breadiness and golden raisin maltiness.

T/M - Raisin bread, fruit cake, figs, more of that wonderful toffee-ish, candy-like bite, very boozy and warming in the finish. Leaves a sugary and resiny aftertaste that lingers. A little port-ish and I get some whiffs of nutty cheese, or maybe I'm just thinking this would be great paired with cheese. A velvety and gritty texture.

D - A total sipper, but very good. Would be tough to drink more than 1 bottle of this in a sitting.

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Photo of birderbeerer
4.3/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Caramel beer with a golden tint. Two-finger, creamy head.

Aroma is super-sweet malts with caramel and butter too.

Taste is even better. Very sweet but creamy and smooth with drier malts tasting like white toast, salty butter, and caramel. Lots of caramel. So creamy and thick. Unbelievably well-hidden abv.

Imminently drinkable. Delicious and easy going down.

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Photo of Phelps
3.7/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sent by nlmartin as part of the Blind Beers BIF, this one was the 2010 edition, poured from a 12-ounce bottle into a snifter and reviewed blind.

A beautiful, mostly clear maroon topped with a half-finger, cream-colored head that fizzles away without much notice. A thin ring is all that remains, and there’s no lace — though I wouldn’t really expect much from such a boozy brew.

The aroma is fairly light, but I get some dark, sugary fruits and malts. Prunes, dark toasted bread, raisins, brown and candy sugar. Deep and sweet.

When cold, I get hints of soy and teriyaki in the flavor, along with acrid, roasted bread. As it warms, sweeter flavors emerge: raisins, caramel, toffee, bread pudding. The finish is mostly dry, with lingering notes of burnt bread.

The buttery medium body feels quite nice, and the alcohol is definitely there, though it’s not as powerful as I’d expect from a beer that’s 28-proof. Carbonation massages the tongue lightly and fizzes up the soft body just a bit as it moves.

Not bad at all, but I expect more complexity from ales as strong as this. It’s just too one-dimensional.

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Photo of beerdrifter
4/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up from a great trade with page101. Clear ruby-brown pour with almost no head and minimal lacing. Earthy, complex, malty nose with hints of toffee, caramel, oak, rye, and a touch of dark fruit and vanilla. The taste is complex as well, and also dominated by the sweet malt. Lots of roasty toffee, caramel and hazelnut with a boozy, woody bite. Hints of rye, raisins, figs, vanilla and oak. Extremely rich with a nice subtle alcohol warming. This is definitely a sipper. The mouthfeel is slightly syrupy, thick and chewy and plenty sweet, with just a touch of hop bitterness. The alcohol warms, but for the most part is pretty well hidden for such a big beer. Another great Michigan beer. Can't wait to try the Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia. Thanks Alex!

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Photo of gnemesis
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into snifter on 4/11. The body is a dark brown with almost ruby highlights. Topped with a dirty white/tan head. Good retention and slight lacing. The nose on this monster is amazing! Caramel, dark fruit, vanilla, and a touch of honey sweetness. Once it hits my lips I'm in love... the alcohol is well hidden and the caramel, dark fruit, and vanilla notes shine. I detect some slight earthiness that plays with the sweetness perfectly. Medium body and low carbonation. Overall this beer is great! My favorite old ale to date- I will find more to age.

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Photo of nlmartin
4.05/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is the 2010 version. The beer was chilled and served in a snifter.

Appearance: The body of the beer is a clear chestnut coloration. The head is a thin white coloration. The head quickly resolved to a ring of foam.

Smell: The aroma of well toasted and roasted malts combine to produce a beer heavy on toffee and caramel aromas, cocoa dipped and slightly burnt marshmellow as the beer continues to warm up dark fruit smells emerge. Plenty of bourbon aroma to the nose.

Taste: The flavor of the beer gives out a lot of toffee, caramel, almost butterscotch, raisins, plums and figs rise out of the middle of all this sweet malt. The fruity nature continues to develop as the beer warms. The alcohol is a tiny bit warm but helps to break up sweetness.

Mouthfeel: The body of the beer is medium. The carbonation is moderate. The alcohol peaks its head up and says hello in a warming fashion. Again the alcohol keeps the beer from heading into the cloying level.

Overall: The beers character is very enjoyable. I am sitting on a couple more bottles and hope to see what a little time does for this beer.

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Photo of cpmichael
4.42/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2010 Bottle.

A: Pours a light ruby red color, with a 1 finger tan foam that dissipates quickly. Looks fairly syrupy.

S: Whoa, really complex. Smells very sweet, cotton candy, caramel, some prunes and other dark fruits. The booze is discernible.

T: Layers of caramel, toffee, raisins, a little nutty, and almost a brandy-like sweetness to it. Very sweet, but not in a bad way.

M/D: Medium carbonation, very thick, almost like syrup. Awesome texture, the booze is totally there, but it was pretty smooth and drinkable. I want to try again.

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Photo of corby112
3.82/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 vintage courtesy of mikey711. Thanks again man!

Pours a dark chestnut brown color with ruby/mahogany edges and a half finger light beige head that immediately fades into a thin ring. Minimal spots of lacing left behind.

Sweet malt aroma with faint earthy hops and boozy heat. Lots of earthy oak/wood character balanced out by hints of caramel, rye and toffee. I'm also picking up some dark fruit, mostly raisin and plum and fig along with other dark berries. The nose is pretty complex with a good balance of barrel character, leathery malt and sweet notes.

Medium body and slightly syrupy with some soft carbonation and subtle spice up front. There's a slightly earthy, leathery character but this beer is bursting with sweet malt flavor. Hints of caramel, toffee, biscuit, hazelnut and rye which are countered at the end of the swallow by a boozy hot finish with a decent hop bite. There's a decent barrel presence with a good amount of oaky/wood flavor along with some more sweet booze. This beer is pretty complex but is very hot at this stage and the ABV is not very well masked. It's 13.5% and you can feel it in the finish. Definitely a sipper that should improve with time but right now it's still a bit rough.

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Photo of SpdKilz
4.47/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another big thanks to Erik (erikkoppin) for this kickin extra. Cheers! 2010 bottling.

Appearance – Pours into my LadyFace Tulip with a hazelnut brown color. About a half finger of slight tan head is achieved that dissipates relatively fast leaving pretty nice lacing on the sides of the glass.

Smell – Lots of toffee and caramel up front. Dark fruits emerge as the beer slowly warms giving off aromas such as plum and raisins. Slight wood, alcohol, and also brown sugar.

Taste – Holy cow. LOTS of candied sugar, toffee, caramel, and brown sugar. The more it warms the more it reminds me (and I’ve said this about another beer before which has slipped my mind) but it reminds me of the butterscotch candies my grandmother used to give me as a child. After the initial sugary blast the dark fruits come through…exactly as the nose; plum and raisin. Just an ever so slight hint of hop and bread come through at the end, along with citrus, though the end note is again sugary sweetness.

Mouthfeel – Whoo boy. Full bodied, thick, creamy, lower carbonation. Damn chewy (one of the thickest mouthfeels I’ve had to date). Practically syrupy though it seems to work as I slowly sip on this.

Overall – For being so “young” of a beer, I get literally almost no alcohol warmth nor taste. Amazing seeing as it is over 13% abv. A spectacular beer to sip and enjoy, and by golly I can’t wait to try the BB version of this. Very glad I was able to try this before the BB version. Glad I have another one of these to age.

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Photo of alpinebryant
4.62/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From trade with Scoot69 Thanks!

A: Pour is a crystal clear chestnut brown with a small light tannish white head

S: Aroma of heavy toffee, thick roasted malt, sweet barleywine / old ale aroma of marshmallow, caramelized sugars. Booze aroma.

T: Delicious light Toffee flavors , with heavy sugar Caramelization. The label says toasted marshmellow and is definitely accurate. There is definitely a booze presence in this and I am happy for it. This is an old ale and I expect that out of a good BW / OA ... The amazing thing about this Old ale is that it has not been barrel aged yet has a frightening ability to convince me that there are oak barrel flavors in here. Plenty of vanilla with the toasted marshmallow taste. Golden graham / graham cracker finish with a little dryness.

M: Light to medium for the style in mouthfeel with a light carbonation.

O: applause

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Photo of abraxel
4.43/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2010 bottling, poured into a Duvel tulip. I'm really glad Kuhnhenn is starting to distribute a bit more; I got this bottle off the shelf :)

A - A reddish brown that turns to a beautiful, deep ruby when held up to light. The head billows up to fill the tulip, but then subsides relatively quickly.

S - mmm... sweet malts, lots of toffee. Not any bitterness or even a hint of hops. The complex malt profile is what makes me love old ales, and the smell showcases it nicely.

T - Quite sweet, but not cloyingly so. Not much hop presence than in the smell, but I don't mind at all. I don't know what they did to get these malt flavors together, but it's awesome. There's just a hint of alcohol heat which lingers in the back of my throat, reminding me to pause before the next sip.

M - It coats my tongue like a soft blanket: comforting and friendly. I almost don't want to swallow...

O - As my roommate said about this beer, "The only thing that could make this better is if they aged it in bourbon barrels. Oh wait, they did!" This is a stellar beer. The only old ale I've had which even compares is its bourbon-barrel brother.

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Photo of nhindian
4.33/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a Cantillon wine glass. Bottle generously provided as an extra by normyk, thanks a ton!

2010 vintage.

A - Pours a dark brown, almost purple color, similar to a deeper-colored Quad. A one-finger, off-white head gradually builds, with moderate retention given the alcohol in this. The lacing is interesting in this beer for sure, as I drink, it leaves a thin, yet generous coating of lace on the opposite side of the glass and a bit on the sides, but if I tilt the glass left and right slowly, the lace stacks for a few seconds, then slowly breaks apart and cascades back down to the rest of the liquid, like a wave that crests and breaks on the beach, and slowly recedes back to the ocean. Very cool.

S - The smell is a nice blend of toffee, dried fruits, and heavily caramelized malts. There appears to be a bit of vanilla and oak in here as well, with a dose of candied sugar as well. Very forward malt nose overall.

T - The taste, as the nose would imply, is quite sweet and dominated by malts. At first there's a slight butterscotch taste, which when followed by the vanilla and oak, generates a unique and tasty flavor. From there it's all toffee and caramel malts, which layer over the dried fruit and raisin to dally into an almost faint Dubbel territory, which when supplemented by the candied sugar, is a Belgian-yeast strain away from being a tantalizing hybrid. This fades in the finish, however, as the malts resurge and last well into the aftertaste. The alcohol comes through slightly, but not enough to give any indication of its 13.50% ABV.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately heavy-bodied with pretty low carbonation. It is pretty slick in the mouth but finishes pretty dry. Leaves a nice coating in the mouth that helps deliver a long-lasting finish.

D - Drinkability is moderately high. It is a tasty beer and hides its alcohol well. It is still a sipper but pretty addicting. I found myself content with a 12oz bottle but it was an enjoyable experience.

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Photo of SupaCelt
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2010 bottling with perhaps an undercrimped silver cap that is somewhat odd in appearance.

The look is clear deep crimson with bubbles struggling to push their way to the surface through the thickness that engulfs them. A small head arose and paused for just a moment before crumbling into the 4th Dementia. Fingers of lace deliciously soil the glass.

The nose is sweet and crusty with dark fruit aspects of plumb and raisin with caramel and slightly singed brown sugar and scorched red tootsie pops not far underneath.

The flavor is rich with the dark fruit aspects that are evident in the nose. Faint black cherry and more pronounced plumb flavors ride atop a candy like sweetness that is trimmed every so perfectly with a little alcohol to squelch any cloying aspects and round out the palate. This is an absolute delight to drink. It remains enjoyable and never becomes a burden to endure even with all of its might.

The mouthfeel is heavy with a thickness that is artfully cut by alcohol to leave an excellent impression in the finish without becoming overwhelming.

Overall, this olde ale from the Kuhnhenn clan is miles better than anticipated by this reviewer. To expect greatness and have an experience that exceeds greatness is a wonderful thing. This is a very fine recipe, and despite the seating of the cap having a precarious look to it, the joy inside is fully intact and amazing. This is an olde ale that begs to be revisited.

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Photo of Chaney
4.58/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sent to me in an awesome trade by lewis1rg. Thanks Ryan!

I split a 12 oz. bottle four ways.

A: Looks straight up like brandy with a slight head on it. Awesome golden color and without much pretensiousness in terms of thickness.

S: Buttery toffee, no booze, caramel and sweet candy sugar... but this was rounds out nicely by a bit of a woody character.

T: Definitely not the booze bomb I was expecting. I got all the stuff I got on the nose, only even more intensified. It definitely had an awesome marshmallow quality on the finish that was to die for!

M: Sweet, yet not syrupy in the slightest. The carbonation was low, but not as low as I thought it was going to be. Sticky sweet yummy goodness!

O: Every once in a while a beer comes along that is best described using non-beer descriptors. This was one of those brews. Impressive!

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4.83/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2008 vin

Clings to the glass and everything. My palate, nose and eyes can't leave the beer alone. Woah. Burnt orange color matches the burnt sweet orange flavor. Sticky burnt sugar sweetness and citrus hop bitterness blend and become confection greatness. An indulgence. A slight amount of oxidation present on the finish. Great in all ways, proficient. saying this to my now emty glass.

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.29 out of 5 with 1,049 ratings
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