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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
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1,049
Reviews:
450
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
8.92%
 
 
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Photo of jsvt
4.82/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a stemless wine glass. 2008

Translucent toffee with a few finger head and ceaseless retention. Lacing all over the place.

Butterscotch, hops, malt honey and slight bitterness on the nose.

As it warms up the palate reveals Great Butterscotch. It goes from burnt caramel to perfect toffee as you continue to sip.

The balance is amazing between sweet and hop. Alcohol is masked in a treat that is truly an endulgance.

Will seek more of this in differnt years and to experience this one of a kind brew again!

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Photo of kwjd
4.17/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2010 Vintage. Pours a amber-brown colour with thick off-white head. Streaks of lacing around the glass with great head retention. Smells of candy sugar, cherry, butterscotch, vanilla, oak, caramel and toasted malt. Very sweet flavour, booze is a bit apparent as well. Quite complex flavour. This is a very nice beer. Smooth, almost syrupy mouthfeel. This is my first Kuhnhenn beer and I'm really enjoying it.

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Photo of kzoobrew
4.2/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter.

Deep ruby amber colored body. Not hazy but thick bodied and dark. One finger antique white head fades very quickly. Slim ring left encompassing the glass leaving scant lacing. For a high ABV Old Ale, this is what I expect.

Heavy caramel and plumb aromas simply ooze from the snifter. Rich brown sugar and bready malt. The overall aroma is generally sweet but leans towards the rich dark sweetness. There is a hint of some bright sweetness coming from beneath. Slight cherry maybe a red grape subtle smell breaks through.

The flavor is inline with the aroma for the most part. The flavor has much more of a caramel focus however. Rich molten caramel flavor is followed by plumb and raisin. Behind lays brown sugar and bready malt. Subtle citric pineapple hop flavor peaks through. The finish is all caramel. Slight boozy heat.

Full bodied and low carbonation. The mouthfeel is thick and chewy leaving a heavy does of sweetness laying on the tongue. The finish is very long, I am not sure you should expect anything else.

Very good Old Ale. I will say it leans more towards a Barleywine at this point. I am positive age will do this well but am curious to see how it changes. Very drinkable all thing considered. Definitely boozy but it never becomes obstructive. Definitely recommend trying at least once.

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Photo of cetherid
4.32/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured into a tulip

A.

Beer is a dark brownish color with ruby highlights coming out from the light. Almost looks like a dark maple syrup color. Head was about 1 fingers worth of off-white before dissipating into a thin film.

S.

A relatively complex (but great) nose in this one. Big aroma of sweet caramel and dark fruits. Some molasses and brown sugar, with a hint of booze. Beer kind of reminds me of a Trappist quad.

T.

Caramel and toffee covered dark fruits...almost like a gourmet candy/candy bar but not overpoweringly sweet as one. Picking up some subtle fruity wine notes in this as well. A little booze in the taste (expected of course), but not as potent as I'd expect from a 13%+ beer.

M.

about medium bodied...carbonation a little low, but might be appropriate for the style. A slight dry finish which seems typical with the wine-like qualities of this beer.

O.

A great overall beer. A little difficult to find (as well as pricey) which knocks this down a bit. I have a bottle of the BA version that I've been meaning to try but I only have 1 bottle so I'm saving it for a special occasion. This beer is a solid sipper

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Photo of seeswo
4.34/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 bottle, ABV 12.5%. Appears to have been printed off on a home printer. I guess that doesn't matter...

Pours a barely translucent dark brown with a tan head. Looks good. Smells amazing. Raisin and other dark fruits darn near fill the room, deep, rich and earthy, this is one of my favorite old ale smells. Good start. Taste is very sweet with that nice sweet, thin front and a touch of hops/bitterness in the back for balance. Just recently had a JW Lees 88, 99 and 08 and this tastes a lot like a slightly better version of the 99 I had. The sweetness here is aggressive and not as off putting as the Lees 99. That said, this beer is very, very similar. What I don't get is that essence of ham that sometimes comes up in the JW Lees for me, and for me, that makes this a winner. Mouthfeel is somehow thinner than what the sticky sweetness eludes to. If it were any thicker (it's still medium-heavy), the sweetness would cover the tongue and be offensive. So while thinner than expected, this is actually welcome. Overall, this beer is not exactly what I was expecting, but I am impressed that this tastes very similar to a beer aged 12 years, and yet comes off more drinkable and enjoyable. If it weren't so sweet, it would be phenomenal. Barely a touch of alcohol, which is very impressive.

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Photo of Kadonny
3.9/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I got this bottle via trade. FYI my bottle listed abv at 12.5%.

Poured into a tulip tasting glass from a 12 ounce bottle.

A: A dark brownish color with some hints of ruby red. A very thin off white head leaves minimal lacing.

S: Wow, fantastic. Smells of candy with butterscotch, caramel, toffee, dark ripe fruits and a hint of wood tones.

T: Ok, beer is much sweeter than the aroma. The first flavors that pour out are the dark ripe fruits with raisin, fig, prune coupled with a candy like sweetness that gives off butterscotch, caramel, molasses and some slight earthy or wood tones. Sweetness is strong and lasting with the alcohol flavor kicking in at the end. You taste this beer long after its gone from the mouth.

M: Full, coating, syrupy sweet (almost cloying), lasting with the abv poking out for sure.

O: A very good beer that is hurt by the overall huge sweetness. Limited quantities can only be tolerated as the sweetness just keeps coming and coming. Very complex and it would make a fantastic dessert beer.

This was a very good beer, but not my bag with the huge sweetness. Still, I'm very glad I got to try it.

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Photo of Brabander
4.15/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this beer from my buddy bierenuts, thanks Dave!

Poured in my Struise glass the beer looks very nice, a very lightbrown head with a nice brown fluid. Not much or no carbonation. The head stays quit a long time. A good and boozy smell with some sweetness (caramell) and oak.

Taste is similar to the smell. Although this is not my style i like this beer very much.

Thanks Dave!

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Photo of bamadog
4.34/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I received this in a trade some time ago. Bottle is from 2009 and listed as 12.5%. Review is from notes taken on 3/14/2011 and poured from the bottle to a snifter. Thank Jeebus I have 2 bottles left...

Appearance: Pour is a deep cola brown and it starts with about 1/4 finger tan head that fades immediately to nothing other than a scant wisp trailing across the surface; body is pretty dark, but shows some ruby/mahogany highlights when held up; pretty soft carbonation is what I see, I have feeling it's going to be even lighter on the palate; no lacing is left behind, not that I would expect any in a beer like this.

Smell: Fantastic. Smells absolutely amazing -- tons of caramel and butterscotch really set up the scents; dark ripe fruits; some kind of spiciness is in there, kind of reminds me of ginger and cinnamon; definite presence of warm alcohol and a bit of a cola-like sweetness; smell is quite robust.

Taste: Holy schyte! Fan-freaking-tastic! Really matches the smell to a "T" -- tons of sweet caramel and butterscotch dominate the palate and there's definite a chewy and overly ripe dark fruit aspect (like raisins) and there's also a bit of spiciness to it (as mentioned in the smell); definite presence of alcohol warms the breath. I have to say, I'm reminded of drinking bourbon and Coke.

Mouthfeel: Body is thick and chewy, just heavier than medium in weight; a thin and dry stickiness is left on the palate; carbonation is essentially non-existent and I have to admit, I would mind just a touch more, but the semi-flatness isn't necessarily outside the style; belly is left very warm, as is the breath from the 12.5% ABV.

Drinkability: Moderate -- the high ABV really keeps it honest, and the super sweetness could become a bit much. I have to say, this is a beer that is probably better shared.

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Photo of ryantho00
4.36/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Found at country acres in a 4 pack 12oz bottles.

Pours deep amber brown with half finger head that disappears fast, but slight carbonation retained. Poured into a snifter. I can detect caramel, cherry, alcohol, and oak when sniffed, there is a slight vanilla smell also.

This came highly recommended, cheers Kuntz! Well worth $17 for a four pack. It has a nice balanced mouthfeel high maltiness caramel beginning that has a slight alcoholiness to it and deep vanilla and toasty oak flavors. I taste an almost bourbon undertone as well. It finishes smooth with a vanilla and caramel sweet maltiness. The alcohol is very well hidden and this a nicely balanced for 13.5% abv. I'm sure this would cellar well and I'd be interested to taste one a couple years old. Very well done, I usually prefer more hops, but this is delicious

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Photo of mrandypandy
4.03/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle purchased at the Brew Depot in Ann Arbor.

A - Pours a clear, deep, thick brown/caramel. No head or lacing but I wouldn't expect much from a brew at 13.5%.
S - Interesting mix of alcohol, chocolate covered cherries and buttered-popcorn jellybeans. Yes, I'm serious.
T - A lot going on here. Dark fruits (figs, plums, raisins), malty sweetness with an alcohol bite at the end.
M - Full body, thick heavy and slightly sweet.
D - Sipper, for sure. One bottle was more than enough.

Overall- Well done, and what I would expect from an Old Ale. the high ABV is present but not overbearing. I would love to try the bourbon-barrel-aged version.

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Photo of nrbw23
4.18/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a murky reddish brown color with a tan head that pops up pretty much out of nowhere. Head has good retention, becomes a cap of a few bubbles and leaves some layered lacing.

S- Aroma is big and complex. Alcohol starts out front and center. Also some thick caramel malts, honey, dark fruits, a bit of bread and yeast.

T- This beer is pretty awesome. Dark fruits, caramel malts, maybe a bit of a toffee, and alcohol.

M- Full in body and low carbonation. Man, this a thick beer.

D- Very easy to drink. I wish I had some more this one to sit on. I'm sure this beer is great with a couple years on it.

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Photo of malty
3.91/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on a Monday late afternoon lunch at HopCat in Grand Rapids.

Poured into a stemmed tulip chalice a dark crimson with plum hilights. A thin khaki head settles to a mere 1/8" but stays creamy and dense. The liquid is perfectly clear with no signs of upward carbonation.

The scent is minimal. It lurks and shrugs when put under my nostrils. After a few swirls, Boozy malts laden with concord grapes evokes.

The flavors are thick and bright with what reminds me of stomped on Fig Newtons. A few sips in, a warming sherry note takes charge with a Christmas fruit cake backdrop.

Mouthfeel is full bodied to the max. with light but lifting fine carbonation. Warming and full flavored, somewhat spicy finish.

Drinkabilty is good. I definitely will be satisfied with this 13 oz. pour.

Glad I got to finally savor this gentle beast at my favorite beer bar. It's pretty much impossible to find this anywhere, so im very thankful HopCat brought in a keg. Great stuff on a sunny laidback winter afternoon.

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Photo of Frosty80
5/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Color: pours clear, light brown with reddish hue. sits deep ruby with brown highlights. head is very thin but very creamy with tight bubbles

Smell: intense, rich malt sweetness with luscious caramel and toffee, followed by notes of dried, dark fruit and molasses. alcohol is obvious but not solventy. a hint of oxidation is also present as is some nuttiness

Taste: first wave to hit the palate is more of a tsunami of rich maltiness. kettle caramelization is full and chewy. alcohol is very warming but still yields slightly to a dark fruit character, and hints of molasses, toffee and nuttiness. finish is slightly sweet despite a light bitterness and alcohol nip. light oxidation is also found mingling in between the flavors

Mouthfeel: rich, chewy full body with smooth, light-medium carbonation

Notes: BIG old ale. probably the most exemplary version of the style i have had. cannot find one thing wrong with this beer. one of my first beers from this highly-spoken of brewery and i look forward to the rest

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Photo of 2BDChicago
4.82/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

My friend Oach had his bro-in-law hit Kuhnhenn's at the 2010 Winter Solstice party and bought a sixer of each of (7) flav's that day.

A: Rich and deep mahogony red brown. Soft bubbly, tan head that quickly disapated.

S: Holy swinging monkeys. Crazy complexity, I don't know where to start. Alcohol and dark fruit come to mind first, but there's way more depth than I can isolate at first sniff. Super seductive blend of molasses, black cherry, vanilla, and clean-pure rocket fuel.

T: Raisins and black currants soaked in alcohol. Then a port wine sweetness and than dark chocolate covered cherries. Could use some aging to take the edge off.

D: This shit is the real deal. Definition of complexity and it blows my mind the variety of well defined flavors that emerge. At 13.5% abv the fuel is present, but not in a burning or instrusive way. The aroma is so awesome, I could almost just smell this brew and not even taste it....almost. When I think of a end of the night snifter, this very rich brew is the benchmark.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.25/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a Bruery tulip. 12.5 % ABV, 2009.

I was lucky enough to snag a bottle of this at Martha's Vineyard for $5.99 in Grand Rapids last year. Thanks to sweemzander for showing me around town!

A - The dark bronzed cherry mahogany color is tainted by a subtle cloudiness while the tall pour creates almost no head. A ring of tan foam still leaves lace though.

S - Sticky caramel malt sweetness battles dusty old basement throughout the aroma. Warm ethanol alcohol is fairly strong in the background. Faint hoppiness provides minuscule balance. A swirl dissolves toffee into candied plum while hints of raisin bread come into play. Complex and subtle.

T - A unique departure from the nose, Fourth Dementia is still strong with abundantly sweet caramel malt, candied plum, and raisin, topped by a mildly spicy, bitter touch of hops on the finish. Dry mocha reminds of the old basement once again. A little more pronounced and bold than the nose.

M - Warm alcohol doesn't affect the taste negatively and that goes for the mouthfeel also. Warm and soft, there is no burning, in fact, it's barely there altogether. Sweet all over with some mild dryness to the finish, the smooth, medium body is very nice.

D - Kuhnhenn does a fantastic job with alcohol involvement (or lack of) and it shows in this brew. No unpleasantness at all, this goes down very well, sip after sip. I wouldn't call it very drinkable, but as high ABV as this is, it's very nice.

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Photo of KAP1356
4.27/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Fnally got my hands on this in a trade from bdberr. 12 oz bottle poured into a Weyerbacher tulip...

A - Rich and thick maroon color with some nice darker amber highlights when held to the light. No real head to speak of. The tiniest little eggshell white cap forms and recedes to basically nothing.

S - Rich and buttery aromas. Toffee, caramel, buttery, and some brown sugar. A bit of alcohol comes through along with the slightest bit of coffee. Really very inticing nose.

T - Strong and rich toffee, caramel and very sherry like. Nice dark sugar flavors with some chocolate and coffee at the end. Dark fruits come through as well; raisins, dates, etc. Ever so slight smokiness and/or tobacco flavors at the very end ofthe palate. Really stunning taste. I can only imagine how this one ages. Really reminds me of a nice sherry or port.

M - Slick mouthfeel. Very smooth and medium-heavy bodied. Not much alcohol heat coming through (although there is some there, don't get me wrong. Just not as much as I would have thought).

D - One ofthe best Old Ale's I have ever had. Quite an amazing sipper and the ABV doesn't hinder the enjoyment of this one at all. Cannot wait to try this again in a year or two. So worth the trade!

EDIT: This was the 2010 batch.

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Photo of beerhan
4.57/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2010 Vintage obtained at winter solstice. 13.5%

Poured into a snifter, very little head, nice amber color when held up to the light otherwise and rich maroon brown.

Smells very caramely. Lots of chocolate, toffee, some nuts, and fig.

Taste is simply marvelous. Lots of caramel and chocolate. So rich but so smooth. Kind of like a port towards the end.

Feels pretty amazing. Swishing it around the mouth really brings out the rich flavors.

For being over 13% I am amazed how smooth this goes down. All of a sudden my glass was empty but I was amazed by this beer. Truly fantastic.

2007 Vintage sampled as well.

Not nearly as good, pours a more yellow golden color and has lost many good qualities. only 12.5% alcohol here but it is more hidden. Overwhelming tartness and lots of cherry are present. 2010 was much better.

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Photo of steve8robin
3.83/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got this beer in a recent trade, thanks Eric for tossing this one in. Been waiting to try this bad boy for a long time now so without further or do. 12oz bottle, 2010 vintage...

A: A super dark brown with some strong deep ruby red mixed in with a 1/2 inch tan head that fades at a decent rate. Very good.

S: I get some nice sweet caramel malt upfront immediately followed by some bready rye and faint grape in the middle. Some Some sweet toffee on the backend. Good.

T: I get some bready caramel quickly followed by a nice warming sensation. Some watery toffee in the middle with and faint hints of chocolate on the backend. Decent.

M: Thick and creamy with a nice carbonation. A dry finish. Good.

D: The booze is present, but not by any means overpowering or showcasing itself in the beer. Good.

All in all, this beer is definitely not as good as I would have hoped or as I've seen it rated, but it's still a good brew to try at least once if you like the style. The 2010 is 13.5% ABV and that is very surprising in this one. The alcohol is there, but not overwhelming.

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Photo of MbpBugeye
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks normyk, this is a long time want.

As expected, very minimal head. Beautiful deep rusted chestnut. Deep, rich butternut and toffee aromas. Lots of caramel and alcohol on the nose.The taste is great. Strong toffee, caramel and nuttiness. I can't wait to try the-bal aged version, but honestly it can't get much better than this.

This beer is pretty huge but it enters a different realm of drinkability, sipability. The cant recall the ABV on my bottle but it was in the 13% neighborhood. This is a long evening sipper. Just the thing you need this time of year.

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Photo of scottfrie
4.35/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle into AVBC snifter. A huge thanks to ipa247 for giving me this bottle. Really generous of you.

A: Pours an extremely dark mahogany red with a thin but dense cream colored head that faded to a thin collar. Not much lace.
S: Rich notes of vanilla, raisins, and caramel. Very sweet and a tad musty smelling with a hint of alcohol vapor, maybe sherry. Hints of fruits also.
T: Hits the palate sweet, fruity and alcoholic (port and sherry). Finish switches to coffee and milk chocolate but some candied fruit notes carry through. Aftertaste is full of sugar, tobacco and grapes.
M: Smooth medium-full body with soft carbonation and a slick mouthfeel. 12.5% alcohol you say? Where? There is a touch of warmth but this drinks great.
D: Hell yeah this is what an Old Ale tastes like! Sweet in all the right places but so very subtle and smooth. I could drink this for days. Alcohol is hidden exceptionally well. Again, I can't thank you enough Jeff for handing this one over to me!

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Photo of fear025
5/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2009 vintage.

Aroma:Tons of sweet malt in the aroma. Also dark fruits, caramel, and molasses. There is a little alcohol aroma coming thru.

Appearance:Dark reddish brown in color. Light tan colored head that doesn't stick around very long.

Taste:The foretaste has lots of caramel malty deliciousness, with some dark fruits, and a hint of chocolate. In the midtaste thru the aftertaste the flavors turn more molasses and dessert-wine like (sherry or port). The aftertaste finishes sweet.

Mouthfeel:Full body, lots of alcohol warmth, medium carbonation.

Drinkability:This beer is right on in terms of style, and deliciously rendered. There is a ton of complexity in all aspects of this beer.

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Photo of Khazadum
3.87/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle is Olde Ale 2009. Should be enough time for this to settle a bit from its 12.5% nature.

A- Deep, deep mahogany brown. Creamy top with pock marks of bubbles. Edges of the glass reveal a load of carbonation streaming up the edges.

Retention time is a bit lackluster, settled to a thin skin and moderate collar. Reminds me of oatmeal without the water. Lacing is spotty, but for the most part decent.

S- Dark fruits ahoy! We have plums and raisins sweetening the opening notes. Grapes and wine-like body... sharp alcoholic edging balances out the syrupy flavors.

T- Like the nose, I notice a large shipment of dark, sweet, fruits arriving on my tongue. From here there is a middle flavor that is interesting. Creamy... milky. Almost custard in terms of flavor. From here it is sprinkled with a heaping portion of brown sugar and begins its descent into the finish.

The entire presence is laced with alcoholic flavor. That antiseptic dry presence lifting the layers from the possibility of becoming cloying or nauseating.

Finish is thickly caramel, tons of brown sugar, and layers of bitter alcohol memories.

M- Full bodied, thick, chunky, chewy, and gaseous all at once. It hits you hard and lingers all over the place with different flavors for each location. Want some custard? Try behind the molars. Want some raisin? I think I left some under the tongue. Perhaps a caramel chew or two? Soft palate middle ways back.

D- It surely has the alcohol punch to it. Can't go balls to the wall on this monster. Sip or be punched out. It could use with a bit more time mellowing out in terms of sweetness and alcohol. Perhaps it'll age even better. I like it. I'd like to have it again in the future.

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Photo of glazeman
4.32/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2007 edition, 12 ounce bottle into a snifter. Label says 12.5%.

A: Ruby red in color with hardly any head. There's just a few wisps of caramel colored bubbles that form a crown. There's no real lacing to speak of.

S: Overall, a pretty good smelling beer. The main smell I got was of apple cider with a little bit of alcohol. You'd be hard-pressed to tell me this wasn't an alcoholic cider actually.

T: This beer was sweeter than I had expected, and that's perhaps the only reason I'd knock it. The flavors are of caramel apples, strawberry jolly ranchers, There's some alcohol heat in it and a tad bit of bitterness that balance it out fairly well.

M: I love the low carbonation as it works really well here. There's a great smooth, velvety feel on the palate and a nice aftertaste.

D: This has great drinkability for a 12.5% beer. It was a sweet which limited my ability to consume a lot fast, but I definitely wanted more and more.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.44/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into my Duvel tulip. 2009 vintage. Received as an extra from wunderbeer in a trade, big thanks Ron, I've really been wanting to try this one!

a - Pours a dark mahogany brown color with one finger of fluffy very light tan head and moderate carbonation evident. Little bit of lacing left on the glass and head lasts for two to three minutes.

s - Smells of caramel malts, chocolate, dark fruits, especially raisins, toffee, light vanilla, light molasses, and light alcohol. As it warms up also a little cherries comes out. Wow, one of the best smelling Old Ales I've ever smelled. As it warms up so many different smells come out, yet it stays balanced.

t - Tastes of raisins, dates, dark fruits, molasses, sugar, caramel malts, sweet fruity malts, licorice, light toffee, and alcohol. Still good, but a clear step down from the nose.

m - Medium to full rich body and low
carbonation. The body is very smooth and creamy, and the alcohol is very well hidden.

d - A really great Old Ale; one of the better ones I've had. I thought this beer smelled amazing and was very complex and balanced. While the taste was a step down and a tiny disappointment after the smell, it was still very good. I thought it also had an amazing mouthfeel and while definitely a sipper, the ABV is well hidden. Would love to get more of this one.

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Photo of Jwale73
3.73/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle courtesy of jdiddy. 2008 vintage. Pours a hazy auburn with a frothy, cream-colored two inch head. Nose suggests figs, prunes, a metallic element, as well as a savory herbal character. There's also perhaps a hint of candy and pepper. Taste is sweet, savory and a touch smokey. Mouthfeel is medium-bodied with a lively carbonation. An interesting beer, perhaps still a little young. Just not what I expected.

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,049 ratings.
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