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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
kbrewery.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,049
Reviews:
450
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
8.92%
 
 
Wants:
617
Gots:
214
For Trade:
25
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Photo of thecheapies
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Kuhnhenn 4th D. 2010 vintage. Served just below room temperature. Poured into a snifter glass.

Pours a dark cherry brown color with a small head that didn't hold up long. Had a viscous body coming out of the bottle. 4.0

Huge port aroma coming off of this beer. That, and a rich layer of decadent caramel and melted chocolate toffee bar. So much butter in the nose that the alcohol is pretty dormant, so far. A little ripe grape thrown in the array. There's a massive sweet, honey biscuit-like malt underneath the imparted smells. Mammoth in nose. 4.5

Prune, raisin, toffee, and buttercrunch follow the booze among dominant flavors. More big vinous characters like fortified wine and brandy. The malts are giant, but soft. No heavy roastiness, spring-y toast, or standout astringent grain notes. Still chunky and sweet. There is a choppy bitterness that reminds me of the wood from a barrel, but this is not that version. The finish has more of the port wine and alcohol presence with a mild, almost chile pepper, spiciness. Ridiculously warming. Absolutely stunning. 4.5

Rich, burly mouthfeel with a light existent carbonation. Toothsome and wooly. Major league booze. Not for the light beer drinker. A big-time warmer that makes you clear your throat and grunt after each sip. 4.5

One of the better old ales that I have tasted. Will seek out the bourbon barrel aged version. Recommended. 4.5

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Photo of rousee
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Oh boy, this is noticeably high on the abv. Many thanks to Erik in Michigan for the sample. My wife likes this one too. Very dark muddy fudgy top with only a slight slice at the bottom of the glass of amber ale.

What a malt bomb this is. It is so sweet and delicious that it would take all the hop heads and convert them instantly to malt. A little like Aventinus but not as banana-esque. It is very close to a barleywine and although I don't care too much for barleywines--this thing is fantastic. Tasting notes are caramel syrup, and a nice barley-grainish finish. There are some hops but they don't warrant mention here. You wanna know what the best maltbomb is--this might be it !!!

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Lovely mahogany/crimson color, nice 1/4" creamy cocoa head.
Aroma is vibrant, brimming with fruit, big in the alcohol department, rich and full of burnished fruit, cherries, berries, and grapes...sweetness, interrupted by booze, a satisfying aroma, fit for the best of any barleywine.
In the taste, delicious....smooth, and bursting with overwhelming fruity flavor...not too strong, either, just enough...massive malt, cherries and berries...
I'd anticipated this brew for some time, wondered about it, dreamed of it...love me barleywines, ...would Kuhnhenn's meet my expectations? So far...
...so good..
smooth, and delicious, ...whatever the alcy-hol is, I'm not tasting it...that's a plus...hooo. lordy, this is niceness personified. Oh, so perfect.
Fourth Dementia, you are my new hero.
I will chase you with a favorite barleywine, to compare, but am sure that you are his/her equal...if they are lucky ...
Enough of that, kudos, to the mastery over there in Warren, MI!

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Photo of Kurmaraja
4.46/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Digimaika2
4.46/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Best before 2017/01/01. I think I still have some time.

(4.25) A: Pours an attractive reddish-caramel colour with a noticeable syrupy texture. An aggressive pour gets a thin and creamy head that lasts a while.

(4.5) S: Rum soaked fruit cake, dry oak, dates & figs, loads of brown sugar, hints of cinnamon, and nutmeg. Potent dark fruits along with those candied fruits. Very flavourful and very inviting.

(4.5) T: Boozy raisins, brown sugar, oak, wonderful caramel-like aftertaste, and overripe banana and blueberry. Espresso and dark chocolate syrup towards the finish. Was not expecting such a smooth and balanced finish. Surprisingly not overly boozy considering the ABV and other flavours aren’t drowned out by it.

(4.25) M: Medium bodied with a lower carbonation appropriate for the style. Incredibly slick and creamy with a slightly gritty texture that is all very good.

(4.5) D: This is really great and is actually probably worth the higher price. Everything is exceptional across the board. Will be cellaring another to try in a year or two.

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Photo of ckeegan04
4.46/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Near impenetrable blackness with just a hint of dark ruby red highlights around the edge. Head is a thin light brown cap that quickly fades to an even thinner ring. When I think 13%+ old ale this is what it looks like right here.

S - Boozy dark fruits quickly waft from the glass upon the initial pour. Cherries, raisins and a bit of brandy. A hint of caramel sweetness comes through as the beer settles. The alcohol is really prevelant through this one and this one is at least 2.5 years old. I can only imagine what it must have been like fresh.

T - Boozy sweetness up front with tastes of sweet bread and caramel. Dark fruits quickly come through; lots of over-ripened cherries, a bit of fig and some brandy soaked raisins. Alcohol is really a dominant force throughout the drink and leaves a long lasting warmth in its trail.

M - Full bodied with light but sufficient carbonation. Sweetness and alcohol both linger long after the drink.

O - A superb beer. I have been holding onto this one for a long time and it certainly lived up to the hype. I will certainly be on the lookout for a way to land a couple of these in the future to toss in the cellar.

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Photo of OneDropSoup
4.45/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Much love to crazynelson for the trade!

Pours a dark brown, almost black close to the head, with a cola brown/amber "base" (the bottom). Would look stout-like if it weren't for the big bubbles rising to form the head, which is beige & a finger thick. Heavy lacing all around.

Smells like a barley wine -- both alcoholic & sweet, bready, smell some molasses or honey. Taste packs a big, malty sweetness, with those honey & molasses notes intensified. Almost a sticky taste, like maple syrup, but so rich. Some dark fruity flavors, like fig. This profile lists it at 9.5% ABV -- the bottle says 11.8%, a significant difference that comes through here. Though the alcohol is not too-too forward, it provides a warming feel (as opposed to a burning one). The taste is wonderful, I only reign it in slightly because it borders on too much.

The mouthfeel is interesting, as the sugars in the taste lead me to expect a sticky feeling, but it's not actually there. Moderately full -- coats the mouth without being sticky & sugary. This is a bountiful beer, I like it a lot, but not a repeat performer in one session. I'd definitely look for this on a winter evening.

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Photo of wallbj
4.45/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of joepais
4.45/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks kryptic for this one
Bottle poured mahogany red with a good two fingers of a reddish brown head that settles into lace
Aromas of fermented fruits prune and roasted malts the nose is quite interesting on this one
Flavors of Sweet fruit and I mean a ton of it .This is a sweet one for sure. An ever so slight alcohol taste in the end (as it warms you get a lot more toasted malts and a light hop)
Full Thick syrupy palate
A great sipper, I wish I had some more.
Well off to enjoy the rest

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Photo of BeerTruth
4.45/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Thanks to saucya and Kan from RB for this highly rated Kuhnhenn brew.

12 oz. bottle allowed to warm up some before pouring into a nonic. 2007 vintage.

A style I'm not too crazy for, but this is supposed to be the best of 'em so let's give it a go.

Pours a deep brown with an amber outline. Two fingers of tan head top this beer that dies down to a creamy layer leaving some nice webbing on the sides of the glass. Smell is of ripe dark fruits and oak. Very interesting merlot aroma, not strong, and very pleasant. Rich caramel, thick molasses, and a hint of booze in the nose as well. Raisins and fig on the tongue first followed by an interesting piney hop flavor. Winey oak and dark cherries with some booze towards the end. Aftertaste is somewhat dry with hints of dates and brandy. Lots of malt throughout, but hops are there too. Medium to full body with a rich and creamy feel. Carbonation is light, but complements the mouthfeel so well. The alcohol is there, so this one is a sipper for sure. Very complex flavors, interested to see what some age would do to this.

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Photo of chinabeergeek
4.45/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 vintage. 12oz bottle obtained in trade. tasted in early june 2009.

dark amber brown. almost ruby clear, but some slight haze and small particles afloat. big, 3-finger tan/beige head w yellow tint. gradually fades to thin layer. great lacing

aroma: malty and fruity, very caramelized, almost brown sugar character, w/ raisin, fig and date juice. port winenotes, more toasty, bready caramel notes, almost cinnamon bun-like. gentle hop hint. whiff of cocoa?

taste: sweet caramel and brown sugar w fig/date tones. slightly hoppier than aroma, w/ possible hint of citrusy american varieities, gives a moderate but balanced bitterness. sweet malty finish w/ gentle lingering hops for a semi-sweet aftertaste.

medium body, lightly syrupy. very active but not quite fizzy carbonation, perhaps more than i'd like, but gives a distinctive, almost fluffy feel.

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Photo of Hallertau
4.44/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Wasatch
4.44/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks stouty1 for the brew.

Brewed On: 02-16-05
Best Before: 2011

My first Kuhnhenn.

Poured into a chalice a slightly cloudy dark amber color, some carbonation, no head or lacing. The nose is of sweet/spicy malts, some hops, slight vanilla, and caramel. The taste is big of sweet malts, hops, and caramel. There's a nice oily/sweetness going on with first sip, then there's a slight dry/bitterness in the finish. Nice warming factor the whole way down. Medium body, nice rounded brew. Very drinkable, but watch out, LOL This is a very tasty Old Ale, hopefully I will get a chance to try out other Kuhnhenn brew's soon.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.44/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into my Duvel tulip. 2009 vintage. Received as an extra from wunderbeer in a trade, big thanks Ron, I've really been wanting to try this one!

a - Pours a dark mahogany brown color with one finger of fluffy very light tan head and moderate carbonation evident. Little bit of lacing left on the glass and head lasts for two to three minutes.

s - Smells of caramel malts, chocolate, dark fruits, especially raisins, toffee, light vanilla, light molasses, and light alcohol. As it warms up also a little cherries comes out. Wow, one of the best smelling Old Ales I've ever smelled. As it warms up so many different smells come out, yet it stays balanced.

t - Tastes of raisins, dates, dark fruits, molasses, sugar, caramel malts, sweet fruity malts, licorice, light toffee, and alcohol. Still good, but a clear step down from the nose.

m - Medium to full rich body and low
carbonation. The body is very smooth and creamy, and the alcohol is very well hidden.

d - A really great Old Ale; one of the better ones I've had. I thought this beer smelled amazing and was very complex and balanced. While the taste was a step down and a tiny disappointment after the smell, it was still very good. I thought it also had an amazing mouthfeel and while definitely a sipper, the ABV is well hidden. Would love to get more of this one.

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Photo of InfernoBoss
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of abraxel
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2010 bottling, poured into a Duvel tulip. I'm really glad Kuhnhenn is starting to distribute a bit more; I got this bottle off the shelf :)

A - A reddish brown that turns to a beautiful, deep ruby when held up to light. The head billows up to fill the tulip, but then subsides relatively quickly.

S - mmm... sweet malts, lots of toffee. Not any bitterness or even a hint of hops. The complex malt profile is what makes me love old ales, and the smell showcases it nicely.

T - Quite sweet, but not cloyingly so. Not much hop presence than in the smell, but I don't mind at all. I don't know what they did to get these malt flavors together, but it's awesome. There's just a hint of alcohol heat which lingers in the back of my throat, reminding me to pause before the next sip.

M - It coats my tongue like a soft blanket: comforting and friendly. I almost don't want to swallow...

O - As my roommate said about this beer, "The only thing that could make this better is if they aged it in bourbon barrels. Oh wait, they did!" This is a stellar beer. The only old ale I've had which even compares is its bourbon-barrel brother.

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Photo of loganburgh
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of core42
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Viggo
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Very pretty ruby red/brown colour, slight haze, small tan head forms, recedes to a ring around the glass, lots of lace. Smell is insane malt, lots of caramel, molasses, some chocolate, and floral hops. Taste is very caramel and sweet malt, with some molasses. Some chocolate and floral hops come through, as well as a little alcohol. Very nice bitter finish. Full bodied, low carbonation, warming alcohol burn down the esophagus and really coats the mouth. Very very good, thanks for the pickup DrJay.

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Photo of peensteen
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from jprime, 2012 vintage

Deep brown colour, a little more than one finger of tan head, great retention also head lasted to basically the bottom of the glass, tons of white sheets of lace all the way down the glass, nearly perfect looking. Smell has tons of dark malt, sweet toffee and caramel, dark sugars and dark fruits, lots of cherry with some plum, just a bit of booze. Taste is sweet up front with caramel, toffee and sugars followed up cherry and fruit, some warm alcohol and vanilla, finishes lightly sweet and fruity, so very complex without ever being too sweet or boozy everything comes together very nicely here. Lightly carbonated, massive chewy body, big rich mouthfeel. Just awesome stuff here, so incredibly drinkable for something so rich and complex.

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Photo of ricke
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Thanks to brewdan for this one.

Dark reddish brown with a dense tanned head with quite good retention.

The smell is rich, but not overly heavy. Caramel, vinous cherries and grapes, toffee and a fresh floral note. Nice and round aroma.

The taste is really pleasant. A complex and fill malty character with lots of vinous fruits (cherries, plums, dried fruits), toffee and caramel. Some woody notes and a gentle cellar character. Hints of powdered chocolate. An interesting mild tart note develops in the middle and complements the massive sweetness really well. The finish is warming with a spot on note of sweet alcohol, malts and grape skin.

Full body, really chewy but with quite e refreshing level of carbonation.

All in all, integrated and complex, and surprisingly easy to drink despite the heavy character. Good stuff.

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Photo of Gusler
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Upon its release the beer sets in the glass a beclouded ruby red with a personable creamy light tan head that slowly evaporates leaving an admirable sheet of lace. Nose has a bit of muskiness with sweet malt, hints of caramel, delectable this nose, sweet at the start, grain profile perfect and the top middling in its feel. Finish has a determined acidity, the hops spicy and enjoyable, the after taste dry, with a nice bit of tummy warming, a total hit with me, and a must try.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up at Kuhnhenn a few days after Christmas 2009.

A: Pours a fairly-dark brown with a few mahogany highlights. Pours with a nice tan head and a bit of lacing.

S: Very, very nice and quite complex. Lots of dark malt and accompanying sweetness alongside some dark fruits, cherry, brown sugar, honey, and hints of alcohol.

T: Similar to the smell, with a whole bunch of things going on. A bit of alcohol, which will likely subside with some time, exists alongside loads of sweet malt, brown sugar, caramel, dark fruits, cherry, and raisins.

M: Medium body with a bit too much alcohol at this point, although I'm sure this will meld together very well in time.

D: Incredibly complex and smooth for the alcohol volume it has, this is definitely one to hold onto for a while.

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Photo of bbb099
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to scottfrie for sharing this one!

A - Clear mahogany amber with a pretty orange hue and wispy tan head.

S - Strong but pleasant wine and bourbon aroma. Fruity esters present as well.

T - Complex taste of dark fruits (plums, figs) and a dark caramel malt. A little bit of bourbon in there as well. Quite sweet.

M - Medium to full bodied, relatively thick with low carbonation.

O - Well balanced complex beer that I would love to have every dinner.

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Photo of Beerzebub
4.42/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 bottle, served in a big wine glass, not too cold.

Smells like deep rich nutty caramel malt, with some floral and herbaceous notes, very nice indeed.

Tastes like a delicious malt bomb. Huge, sweet dark toffee/caramel, brown sugar, date. After a few seconds some restrained but discernible bitterness comes in, keeping it balanced and drinkable.

Nice beer!

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,049 ratings.
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