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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

Added by marburg on 05-06-2003

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450
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1,042
Avg:
4.26
pDev:
9.15%
 
 
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Photo of CanuckRover
3.53/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.25

Deep brown. Surprisingly nice head for the style, a couple fingers. Settles to a respectable film.

Big dark fruit on the nose, nice undercurrent of toffee and a bit of chocolate.

Holy sweetness. A little bit of odd, but kind of welcome, tartness to start things off, but then it's just a rush of sweet sweet fruit. There are some chocolate flavours that I really like and the slight alcohol heat near the finish is really nice, but it really needs a touch more zing to balance things out.

Mouthfeel on the other hand is just terrific. Full bodied with perfect amount of carbonation, an area where many old ales fall flat on their faces.

Some will (and obviously do) enjoy this, but too sweet for my tastes.

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Photo of jrenihan
4.2/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

BB 2017/01/01

Beer appears very dark brown- close to black but not quite. A small bit of off-whitehead is gone almost instantly.

Smell is very strong and rich. Burnt caramel/toffee, raisin. Quite malty. Smells like a port to me, with dark fruit.

Coming off the nose, the taste has a surprising herbal/spice flavour that I did not expect. Along with that are similar flavours to the nose- caramel/toffee, raisin, brown sugar. Alcohol heat is quite present, which is no surprise. A bit smoky. Very big flavour. Quite sweet.

Full bodied, very heavy, with a moderate carbonation level. Feels sticky. Sugar has a drying effect.

Overall, one big beer. I quite like it but it is a bit on the sweet side (although I do have a sweet tooth). Alcohol is also a bit much. I do wonder if it will mellow with age. In any event, quite enjoyable.

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Photo of uno99
4.32/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Whoah! One of the highest ABV beers ever (legally) sold in Ontario.

Appearance: Quite a dark brown depending on how wide your glass is. Poured into a small collectable sample glass from a beer fest it is a very deep brown mahogany. No head or lacing really. Just a small ring around the meniscus.

Smell: Very pungent. Rich chocolate, dark fruits, sweet roasty malt, some lighter fruits, oak, pepper, lemon, leather. Quite complex.

Taste: big and bold. All properties from the scent are available in the taste. A bit of alcohol at the finish.

Mouthfeel: Adequate carbonation for this thick and rich ale. Plan on spending a good hour with this if you find yourself alone with the bottle.

Overall: Lives up to the reputation. A quite drinkable huge beer with complex taste and aroma.

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Photo of mtomlins
4.76/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

2012 Vintage bottle drank from a standard pint glass.

A: A beautiful deep brown (mahogany or copper) color with a thin tan head that dissipated rapidly. This bottle had very little carbonation and not much in the way of lacing.

S: Deep, ripe, dark fruit like raisins and dates and a blast of malty ‘breadiness’. There is a slight boozy note which is to be expected given its 13.5% ABV, but it is not overwhelming.

T: Wow! There is a rich caramel sweetness that is dominated by ripe, dried, dark fruit (raisins, figs, dates) and backed by a full, rich malt, biscuit, bread base. There is a nice hop bitterness to balance out the sweetness of the malt. Again, there is a slight booziness, but minimal given the high ABV. Given the high gravity of the beer, it still manages to remain soft on the palate.

M: Fourth Dimension is a bowl of brown sugar porridge on a cold winter’s day. The beer is full and silky smooth giving it an incredibly round and robust presence.

O: A stellar version of a complex beer style. 4D is a perfectly balance beer of rich fruit and biscuit/bready malt with a pleasant hoppy counterpoint. This is an impressive beer!!

EDIT: Poured the same 2012 vintage on Feb 2015. The hops have died back really allowing the malt profile to shine. A certain amount of spice has developed like nutmeg and cinnamon adding a delicious complexity. This beer is only getting better with age!

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Photo of Digimaika2
4.46/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Best before 2017/01/01. I think I still have some time.

(4.25) A: Pours an attractive reddish-caramel colour with a noticeable syrupy texture. An aggressive pour gets a thin and creamy head that lasts a while.

(4.5) S: Rum soaked fruit cake, dry oak, dates & figs, loads of brown sugar, hints of cinnamon, and nutmeg. Potent dark fruits along with those candied fruits. Very flavourful and very inviting.

(4.5) T: Boozy raisins, brown sugar, oak, wonderful caramel-like aftertaste, and overripe banana and blueberry. Espresso and dark chocolate syrup towards the finish. Was not expecting such a smooth and balanced finish. Surprisingly not overly boozy considering the ABV and other flavours aren’t drowned out by it.

(4.25) M: Medium bodied with a lower carbonation appropriate for the style. Incredibly slick and creamy with a slightly gritty texture that is all very good.

(4.5) D: This is really great and is actually probably worth the higher price. Everything is exceptional across the board. Will be cellaring another to try in a year or two.

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Photo of Derek
4.27/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2012 Vintage.

I've had earlier (lighter) versions of this and never really cared for it. At the first Michigan Brewers Guild Winter Beer Fest I just thought it was harsh, same with other bottles.

This is better. It doesn't need to be 13.5%, but it is better.

A: Initial pour seems like it is almost still, very little carbonation. Deep, deep mahogany, a few tan bubbles surface and it shows a little leg.

S: Alcohol is apparent in the aroma, somewhat sherry-like. Plenty of raisins, figs, dates and hints of field berry.

T: Although it's stronger than early versions, it doesn't seem so. I thought they were plagued by tertiary/fusel alcohol, but not this one. Tons of dates, raisins, figs and dark caramel, hints of roasted nut and cocoa and some meaty melanoidins. Good bitterness, alcohol is certainly warming.

M: Mild carbonation really works, but I still find the residual sweetness a bit much.

O: I still think this is over-rated, but it is a good brew.

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Photo of andrenaline
4.02/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Likely the last brew I enjoy before the arrival of our baby daughter... Our world is about to change, so I figured I would celebrate the change with a quality brew.

A - Pours a murky mahogany, thin layer of head with little retention and no real lacing.

S - Bready toffee, caramel, leather, oak, figs and dark fruit notes, candied apple, buttered bread and wheat.

T - The flavour profile is unique, an earthy hop flavour comes through off the top with the dark fruit notes coming through on the finish. The toffee and caramel are present alongside a hint of bitter espresso, leather and burnt wood. The ABV sweetness is present but not overwhelming and is surprisingly hidden on the finish.

M - Medium bodied, a tad sticky, and finishes surprisingly wet.

O - A tasty brew that is incredibly complex. The nose and flavours are complex and I found that they became even more diverse as the brew warmed. There's a reason this is top rated, and I will definitely be grabbing a few extra bottle to age.

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Photo of MeisterBurger
4.47/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep, brownish black topped by a thin head. Decent lacing.

The aroma is booze and raisins, bourbon maybe. Rum. Vanilla. Treacle and molasses. Lots of toffee and sweetness, lots of dark fruits.

Delicious sweet brown sugar and black liquorice. Salt water toffee. Lots of dark fruits. Some tobacco and vanilla. It's a tad boozy, but in a good way. The delicious malty sweetness is noticeable but is quashed perfectly with a mild bitterness. Just a complex yet wonderful depth of flavour here.

It's ligher than expected body actually works really well with all of the rich flavours that are going on here.

Very well rounded and enjoyable. Definitely a sipper and one is enough at any given time. But super enjoyable.

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Photo of scootny
4.4/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

2010 bottle. A murky dark mahogany with lots of chunks floating and swirling around. Some lace and a remnants of the light wispy head sitting on top. Smell is a fusion of brandy/rum and beer with a heavy sweetness and lots of burnt sugar flowing into a heavy alcoholic presence. Some bits of dark roasted grains and yeasty fruitiness. Chocolate laps at the nose. Raisins and figs in there as well. Taste is densely sweet with the aforementioned raisins and figs. Notes of coffee and bitter cocoa powder. Hops are here in abundance and still they barely control the massive sugar content of this ale. Earthy in character and mildly pungent they bring a semblance of balance to this beer. Feel is thick. Thick like a sandwich from the Carnegie Deli in NYC, ( You can get four slices of extra bread and still have to stretch your mouth to bite it ). Carbonation is mild and gentle with enough pop to break up the syrupy, sticky nectar. This is a beer equivalent to Napoleon Brandy with a warming quality that keeps your swallows in check. Try to pound this one and you are lost cause. Sip, savor and warm up as you indulge your senses in this one. While it may work with sweeter desserts I'm thinking nuts and full flavored cheeses as a perfect compliment to this one.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.94/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter. 2010 vintage.

Appearance - Deep brown with a surprising head. Wispy surface with a thin collar. Leggy on the swirl.

Smell - Mmm. A bit of oxidation, some wet sock aroma, delicious. Deep earthy caramel aroma.

Taste - Nutty malt flavor, earthy hops. Slightly less impressive than the smell. No real sweetness. Bitter finish. No booze.

Mouthfeel - No alcohol or sweetness. It's a sipper, but it's not really difficult to drink. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Nowhere near as good as the barrel aged version, but still an impressive beer.

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Photo of Scotchboy
4.31/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

2011 bottling poured into my Hill Farmstead tulip - thanks GraniteSkunk! A beer & brewery I was never sure I'd be able to try, and now I get to sample one of their finest!

A: Hazy dark opaque brown body - hardly any head at all on this beer, can't swirl anything up. Alcohol legs are present on the glass.

S: Caramel, sugary malt, toasted brown sugar, dark fruits (fig, raisin, possibly dates?). There are whiskey-like notes to the nose, not exactly 'barrel-aged' notes, but just suggestions of a whiskey-like character. Faint milk chocolate and ghost-like vanilla.

T: Follows the nose, epics amounts of caramel in this beer as one would expect from an Old Ale. Sweet without being cloying though, supremely drinkable really. Milk chocolate, toffee, figs and raisins, faint vanilla...this is good...a bit of heat is noticeable and balances the sweetness nicely.

MF: Slick, viscous mouthfeel with extremely low carbonation (the bottle hardly hissed when opened) - however it doesn't detract from the drinkability and really lets the flavors shine.

O: Probably the finest Old Ale I've tasted, and I'm not partial to this style. I wanted to kill the hype on this one if I could, but its well deserved. Really nice and drinkable, appears to be the perfect beer for barrel-aging IMO.

Thanks again GraniteSkunk, an awesome extra!

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Photo of tectactoe
4.63/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Had this quite a few times at Kuhnhenn, but I finally decided to crack some of my 2011 bottles, and this review will be based off of that. Fourth Dementia pours soft, rich, and thick, almost like warm maple syrup out of the bottle. It's a very deep and dark mahogany, showing ruby highlights in front of the light. A small, khaki crown forms slowly upon pouring, showing decent retention for this high gravity brew. A quick swirl of the glass will easily conjure up larger froth if desired.

I could smell 4D long before I ever brought the glass to my face - pretty much as soon as I cracked the bottle open. It's a highly sweet malt bomb that is very reminiscent of a barleywine up front. Humongous caramel aromas, warm toffee, and a melted coating of brown sugar smeared from wall to wall. Rich dark fruits reside beneath this blanket of sugary goodness; plums, black cherries, dates - all candied and tangled in vibrant sweetness. I pick up very faint woody aromas, though I don't believe the original 4D ever touched a barrel. Wonder what this is from? Alcohol is present with a warming and smooth notice, similar to that of brandy or sherry. Warmer temperatures only reveal more nuances in this already complex labyrinth of aromas; more sticky toffee, light tobacco, graham crackers... This aroma is blowing my mind.

Smelling this beer does nothing but get me even more excited to finally bring it to my lips. Truth is, I usually sit there and wave it in front of my nose for minutes before I finally take a sip. Initially, 4D comes out swinging with a fruit combination, sweet and pure like a puree; cherries, raspberries, and ripe plums are leading the pack by far. Now imagine those fruits drizzled in rich caramel, and rolled in a vat of brown sugar, then dipped delicately in a brandy bath for a few hours. Sticky bouts of toffee are strong from start to finish along with lighter hints being given to honey and maybe even maple syrup. 4D is sending my entire sensory system into a frenzy and I'm loving every goddamn minute of it.

Again, warmer temperatures yield an even larger bouquet of flavors, so I recommend taking it slow; it probably took me a little over an hour to finish the 12 oz bottle and that's the best way to do it. The flavors intensify and grow to a ridiculous degree of power and refinement, as if they weren't incredible enough already. The aftertaste is full of that light oak flavor that I was getting in the aroma - again, kind of mind-boggling considering this wasn't aged in a barrel or anything. Long lasting, toasted brown sugar couples with graham crackers and leftover cherry and raspberry juices to give one last jolt of sweetness before the sip of 4D is gone forever. Despite the intensely high levels of sweetness, the beer elegantly avoids becoming cloying through delicate balance with the alcohol heat and a faint (almost unnoticeable) addition of earthy hop bitterness. Slightly sticky mouth feel, heavy and thick on the palate, low-medium carbonation.

Holy shitballs. This stuff is absolutely incredible. I know I'm probably one of the only people that thinks this, but I enjoy the regular 4D much more than the barrel-aged version. I don't believe that barrel-aging always makes things better, and here is a perfect example of that. Why? Bourbon barrel aging imparts a particular and dignified set of flavors; in my opinion, these flavors kind of mask what I love so much about 4D. Call it a barleywine or an old ale or whatever the hell you want - this beer is a perfect example of the capabilities of not only its style, but beer in general. Enjoy this beer and take a nap, then thank me later.

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Photo of Dope
4.27/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2011 bottle

A: Pours a murky dark, dark, dark brown/red. Small fizzy tan head despite aggressive pour; very low carbonation. Almost no lacing, just little specks here and there. Good head retention at least.

S: Very fruity. Loads of raisin, fig, prune, dates...and grape juice? Molasses and toffee too. Caramel, lots of it. Very sweet, almost cloyingly so. Smells similar to a JW Lees if I'm not mistaken.

T: Whoa. Smooth and heavy malts. Loads of caramel, brown sugar, toffee and molasses. LOADS of it. Less fruit here but raisin and fig is still apparent, especially towards the middle. There is a slight taste of alcohol briefly in the finish but it's surprisingly mellow given the low carbonation and high ABV. Finish is a little less sweet, toffee and marshmallow stand out here. Some fruits in the lingering aftertaste but much drier than the initial flavor. Still sweet, just not as much.

M: Heavy body, high ABV and low carbonation. It's thick and smooth but not nearly as cloying as I expected it to be. Surprisingly drinkable.

O: A serious old ale. A must-have for the malt lover with boatloads of maltiness and fruits. No sign of hops here. Above-average drinkability for the ABV, it's surprisingly mellow and smooth. Flavors are quite strong of course but not sharp and overpowering. Would love to get my hands on a barrel aged version of this.

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Photo of Justin_Neff
4.18/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle (2011)

Thanks zipper8650 for this one!

A: Pours dark brown - the color resembles maple syrup. A small collection of fizzy bubbles rise quickly, and they disappear even quicker, revealing a low amount of carbonation.

S: The nose is fantastic. Tons of caramel and toffee. Smells like creme brulee, but not artificial like many other dessert-smelling brews. Strong wofts of molasses and chocolate - especially as it warms. Figs and marshmallows finish out the whiff.

T: The predominant taste is toffee and sweet malts. Caramel, maple syrup, vanilla, dark fruitiness all bounce around to an extreme amount of noise, resulting in a very sweet brew. Every sip tastes a little different. I definitely get marshmallows, but its faint.

M: Very little carbonation. Full body. A mix between what I would describe as creamy and full of oils. Definitely something that is meant to be sipped. Better as it warms.

O: I was very nervous after the initial pour, but the complexity of this one and how it blended together was really great. Even after aging for over a year, it's a bit boozy, but it's decently hidden with all of the different types of flavors flying around. Would like to try fresh to see if that affected the pour and carbonation, and I'd also like to try to the barrel aged version to see how that adds another awesome element of complexity. All-in-all a great beer and I'll buy if I ever make it up to anywhere that has it on shelf.

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Photo of yamar68
4.23/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Huge thanks to antlerwrestler19 for this one - 2011 vintage:

Such a raw looking beer. Deep, dark brown coffee body with an edge of ruby clarity that shows silky beading and a good amount of sexy legs and lace.

Gigantic dessert aromas explode from the glass... caramel, toffee, graham cracker, molasses, sweet grain... beautiful. It's a mellow sense of sweetness - it's not big enough to hide a big booze bill which is perfect because that wouldn't be necessary. The alcohol is surprisingly approachable; I don't know what keeps it in check. A touch of leather and s'more seem to do the trick.

A good amount of grape soda and tobacco surfaces on the palate. Some of that warming liqueur type flavor dries things up. Lots of toasted bread crusts and big grain flavors. There's a somewhat metallic finish that lingers over all of those surprisingly palatable malt notes. It's big. It's complex. It's tasty.

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Photo of peensteen
4.43/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from jprime, 2012 vintage

Deep brown colour, a little more than one finger of tan head, great retention also head lasted to basically the bottom of the glass, tons of white sheets of lace all the way down the glass, nearly perfect looking. Smell has tons of dark malt, sweet toffee and caramel, dark sugars and dark fruits, lots of cherry with some plum, just a bit of booze. Taste is sweet up front with caramel, toffee and sugars followed up cherry and fruit, some warm alcohol and vanilla, finishes lightly sweet and fruity, so very complex without ever being too sweet or boozy everything comes together very nicely here. Lightly carbonated, massive chewy body, big rich mouthfeel. Just awesome stuff here, so incredibly drinkable for something so rich and complex.

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Photo of dbrauneis
4.15/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2011 Edition

A: Pours a cloudy and opaque very dark reddish brown in color with some brown and amber highlights along with a light amount of gentle visible carbonation. The beer has an extremely thin sudsy dark beige head that quickly reduces to a very thin ring of bubbles at the edges of the glass. Minimal amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Strong aromas of malts with some toffee sweetness and just a touch of cherry dark fruit.

T: Moderate to strong flavors of sweet malts with some notes of toffee and light to moderate amounts of cherry dark fruit. There are very light notes of lingering sweetness and almost no bitterness present. Light notes of alcohol as the beer warms up.

M: Just heavier than medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with just a touch of alcohol warmth in the finish.

O: This beer has just enough sweetness and alcohol presence in this beer to make you want to slowly sip it (preferably on a cold winter evening by a fireplace) to enjoy.

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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
4.31/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Served in an over-sized wine glass (La Trappe signature glass).

Appearance: A really dark almost opaque hazy brown. What kills me is the head, there is none. I can tell just by appearance this brew might lack carbonation. Head for what is is maybe 1/10', light tan.

Smell: Strong burnt brown sugar scent that is more aroma than anything else...it hovers your nose like heat to a flame.

Taste: What a strong alcohol taste this beer has granted the ABV level is well above average. Heavy molasses feel which makes you feel sweetness makes you think this beer was aged in bourbon barrels.

Mouth: Light carbonation and when it comes to an old ale I was expecting a little more, as far as stickiness is concerned this brew sticks like moth to a light. I put it down and pairing it with sharp cheddar cheese it just doesn't leave. Flat somewhat sticky very and for that I won't hate on quality.

Overall: Would I buy this again, I know the mouth feel isn't what it is supposed to be but this is a quality brew. it improves literally after every sip. Can't remember how much it costs, but F' it you only live once. Salud!

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Photo of BMMillsy
4.3/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Trade from deyholla. Need to send him another box for these beasts. Bottle says Winter Solstice 2010, but also 2007 on the bottle. I am assuming this is the 2007 sold at the 2010 party. Got some age for sure. Poured Feb 16, 2013. Pours murky brown with no head. Aroma is sweet dark fruits and a bit of bourbon and slight vanilla (though this is not the BB version). Very sweet fig, cherry and grape flavor. Bit of caramel and some booze. Pretty thick mouthfeel. Nice beer, though on the sweet side.

Got my hands on a fresher bottle at a tasting on 8/2/14. Same look. Aroma is a nutty caramel malt, brown sugar, yum. Flavor follows with big molasses and brown sugar, caramel, and definite hazelnut or pecan/praline notes on the finish that really make this beer. A big beer but so yummy it goes down easy. This is awesome...I guess aging it for 6+ years is too much. Just fine as is when you buy it. Oh yea.

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Photo of PsilohsaiBiN
4.27/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Dark crimson with a 1/2 finger of tan head that fades to the perimeter after a few minutes.

Smell: Citrus, biscuity bread, strawberries, hops.

Taste: Biscuit like malt combines nicely with orange and some hops. This is a pleasure to drink for the abv. If I drank this blind and you told me it was 13.5 abv, I wouldn't believe you. Alcohol is masterfully hidden.

Mouthfeel: Not the most carbonated beer in the world but that's expected for the gravity.

Overall: Solid beer, would drink again. Looking forward to many more from Kuhnhenn.

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Photo of n2185
3.72/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

A: pours a dark brown with half a finger of beige head that recedes into a thin ring with no lacing.

S: loads of caramel malts, vanilla, toffee, and sweet breads.

T: similar to the aroma, caramel and toffee dominate with sweet breads, vanilla, and a light alcohol burn. Somewhat Port-like.

M: thick body with low carbonation, this beer is sticky sweet.

O: a pretty decent old ale overall. It's a little on the sweet side with the high alcohol, but avoids being cloying.

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Photo of ZorPrime
4.29/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Received this one from a recent trade with liamt07. Cheers!

Viscous beer, brown in color. Head is very timid.

The nose is strong. Caramel malts, sugars, some rum. Vanilla is too faint initially. In the mouth, this beer explode... Full bodied. Very good. Some caramel notes with a good bitterness. Love this. This is a strong and complex beer. Needs time to fully appreciated this one. Amazing that they are able to make this. I prefer this one, than the barrel aged version. Both are good, but this one is better to me.

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Photo of Florida9
3.23/5  rDev -24.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2010.

Dark brown, but still translucent. No head. Flat. Aroma is pure oxidation. Cardboard and wet paper. Some caramel and little earthy wood. Taste is more of the same, but worse. Oxidized beyond enjoyment. Caramel, wood, toast, burnt sugar. Medium bodied and alcoholic. mild bitterness.
Not sure what the big draw is on this beer. I've had it a few times now and have never enjoyed it.

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Photo of ehammond1
4.74/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle (2011)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, whartontallboy!

(Aged for 1+ year)

Very dark brown throughout. Even the edges are the darkest of browns. There is effectively zero visible carbonation after an aggressive pour. A few large bubbles appear at the center/top of the liquid, but effectively, this looks still. I suppose this is the only disapointing aspect of this beer, but the appearance becomes altogether meaningless after tasting this.

Fantastic aroma, though the flavor is even better. The aroma is a wonderful combination of melted caramel candies, chocolate covered marshmallows, maple syrup, and an earthy/honey sweetness. Complete and expressive.

An absurdly good (non barrel-aged) old ale. There is so much complexity here, usually found only in beers of this style that have been barrel-aged. Layers of dark fruits, caramels and toffees, mild chocolate and marshmallow, and maple sweetness coat the tongue. The alcohol is remarkably well hidden. I haven't had the opportunity to try this beer fresh, but I'm happy I sat on this one for the length I did.

Medium bodied with very low carbonation. Slightly chewy, coating, oily. Lovely and decadent.

My favorite of a favorite style. Perfection. Looking forward to opening the barrel-aged one next.

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Photo of Amalak
4.8/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A. Extremely dark brown. No light comes through. Very limited, tan head and no lacing. Almost seems like a deep liquor.

S. Very nice malty, nutty scent. Thick. Caramel in there.

T. That is arguably the smoothest beer I've ever had. Beautiful toffee blended with a floralness. Nice nut taste. There's a cotton-candy taste to it. Love it.

M. Nice sweet tingle.

O. Certainly this is the best ale that I've ever had. Absolutely the smoothest most wonderful ale I've tried.

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
4.26 out of 5 based on 1,042 ratings.
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