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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth DementiaKuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia

Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 13.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
This is our 4th Dementia Olde Ale that has been bourbon barrel aged. This ale has an intense sweet caramel malt flavor and aroma that develops into a toffee/toasted marsh mellow like character.

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Photo of wulfie85
4.47/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Really an excellent beer. Poured dark and thick with notes of caramel, toffee, and dried fruit. Had great body and mouth feel with flavors of sweet toffee and caramel to match the aromas. The bourbon barrel added excellent vanilla and bourbon flavors, but no alcohol burn of any kind. Can't wait to have more of this!

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Photo of vicinandp
4.15/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

From the start you know what this beer is all about. Immediately you get tons of caramel and dark fruit, very sweet on the nose. The taste follows the nose and this beer was caramel, toffee and raisins. Not a whole lot of bourbon comes through, very good offering but not much barrel and a tad bit sweet for my taste.

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Photo of tywhite
4.51/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2013 vintage in 2016. Unquestionably sweet, but apparently less so than when fresh. Sheets of rich dark fruits with just a hint of barrel left. Would drink again any time, but would probably try to sit on it for several years.

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Photo of YodersBeerEmporium
4.83/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Probably the best Old Ale I've ever tasted! Enjoyed the fresh 2015 bottle and very glad I have more of this and can't wait to try the 4 year old bottle!!

Nice bourbon caramel notes on none and palate! Enjoyed slowly via sipping and savoring over and over :)

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Photo of JohnnyHopps
4.6/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance - The beer poured blackish brown with mocha colored bubbles clinging to the sides of the glass.

Smell - Sweet booze is noted with dark fruits and sweet malts.

Taste - My initial impression is chocolate covered raisins with booze. Sweet malts and other dark fruits are present. As the beer warms, sweet chocolate becomes more apparent. The booze is well balanced with the after taste being modestly warm.

Mouthfeel - The sticky booze and malts really linger. There is some thickness.

Overall - This is definitely worth seeking.

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Photo of LAp
4.9/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip glass. Pours burgundy when the flow is viewed through the light, and when collected in the glass, creates a dark-chocolate, almost-black appearance. A 1 finger thick tan, almost-khaki head, forms, and recedes gradually, leaving beautiful lacing with moderate retention. The nose is a dry red wine right off the bat when nosed from the bottle., followed by caramel and bourbon. When nosed from the tulip, the same features are present, but with more emphasis on the caramel and bourbon. The palate opens with thick, syrupy malt with caramel and sweet bourbon. The thickness of the beer, and the deep caramel notes mask much of the boozy warmth at first, but the alcohol becomes a touch more noticeable on the backend of the palate. Hints of fig and currant emerge as the beer warms. Mouthfeel is incredible - one of the thickest, most syrupy beers I've tasted - it complements the beer itself tremendously. Overall, an incredible beer in a style that is too-little-done in my opinion. This beer almost tastes as much like a rich English barleywine that's spent some time in bourbon barrels as it does a bourbon barrel old ale (though the dividing line between those style's is admittedly blurry). Truly a treat to try.

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Photo of Sparty1224
4.79/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Serving: 12 oz. bottle poured into a Founder's CBS snifter. No bottled on date, but this is 2015 vintage, so maybe 2-3 months old at this point.

A: Pours a syrupy-thick, mahogany-brown color. Just a hand-full of bubbles in a very calm beer. Some light getting through.

S: Apricot, fig, maple syrup, plum, dark cherries, vanilla. The bourbon is very faint on first pass, but a good whiff reveals it. Comes through as a more oaky, leathery note, and less wet, fresh bourbon.

T: Big fig, jam, plum, and caramel notes up front. Some vanilla and toffee in the middle. Finish leaves more of a slightly booze-tinged character than an overt bourbon note, but lets you know that there's some barrel presence there.

M: Just brilliant. This is about as thick and chewy as you'd want for a barrel-aged beer, regardless of the style. The high-ABV is well hidden. Carbonation level is right in the sweet spot.

O: Kuhnhenn is my hometown brewery, as I grew up a short 15 minutes away. However, I didn't discover it's place in the craft beer universe until 1 or 2 years in. A very small, unique place, Kuhnhenn has a similar ethos to Founder's in that they do it their way. After my first Winter Solstice in 2012, it instantly became one of my favorites. BB4D is a legend, and 3 years later, it still holds up as a classic. This beer, for the style, has it all. It's rich, sweet, decadent, layered, and above all delicious. It's truly an achievement to craft a beer this drinkable and tasty. My only small critique is that I would like a bit more barrel presence here. Not sure if it was more predominant a few years back, but it's just a tad mute here. Maybe I'd have to have it side by side with 4D to truly appreciate it, but bourbon isn't the first thing that comes to my mind when drinking this one. Nonetheless, it's an under-the-radar beer that deserves a bit more acclaim than it already has.

Recommendation: Mandatory drinking for lovers of all things barrel-aged.

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Photo of hardysf
4.43/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours super thick. Dark black with a thin head, and a ring stays throughout the drink. The smell is of sweet malts, dark fruit, and bready malts. I don't get a whole lot of wood, bourbon, or vanilla aromas surprisingly. The taste is full of toffee, caramel, and bready malts. Some oak notes come through on the back end, and there is a splash of alcohol on the finish. Really good beer. Must drink warmer than colder though. It got significantly better as the temp rose. Very nice mouthfeel on this one. There is a touch of oxidation in this beer more apparent on the nose than the taste.

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Photo of Hootie159
4.64/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

From bottle. Pours an oil thick milk chocolate brown. Nice layer of film on top and stains the sides with some lacing as it drinks. Fantastic smell. Sweet bourbon, chocolate, date, fig, caramel, marshmallow wow. Taste is more elegant than I would have guessed. Abv is not noticed. Getting plum and charred/roasted fig. Hint of chocolate. Very yummy. A faint hit of carbonation. As thick as it looks, it just has a thin feel to it. The sweetness that while pleasant in smell and taste is a bit cloying. Still an awesome beer.

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Photo of costanzo_mike
4.56/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy brown color, slight head dissipates quickly. Some light lacing on the glass as it drinks down a bit. Smells like a chocolate covered fig that was soaked in bourbon. Taste reflects the same with the bourbon shining through nicely and balancing with the sweetness. Good stuff from these guys

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.48/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Gold foil capped 12oz bottle from IAmJacksHopTongue (thanks for the awesome Kuhnhenn hook up!). 2015 vintage. Served in a goblet.

Pours an opaque mahogany with chestnut highlights at the edges. The finger and a half of deep beige head is slow to recede to a modest halo. Scattered small islands of lacing find purchase on the glass.

Aromas of toffee, dark fruit, leather, earthy oak and faint bourbon. This is one of those beers that I can savor the smell alone so my nose returns to the glass often to do exactly that.

The bourbon isn't dominant but is much more apparent in the taste than the nose. Caramel, cereal grains, soft bourbony vanilla notes, dark fruit skins, toffee, wet oak, faint spice, earth and a surprisingly light touch of alcohol. Its a wonderful blend of old ale and bourbon barrel.

Creamy, full feel with pillowy, light carbonation. A blend of raisins, slightly oxidized fruit, caramel and bourbon soaked oak caresses the palate in the finish.

Kuhnhenn takes their already outstanding Fourth Dementia to the next level with some barrel aging. This is a little more boozey than the base and as expected adds some nice, sweet, complementary barrel notes. Like many of Kuhnhenn's offerings this is worth some effort to try.

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Photo of thatoneguymike
5/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2015 bottle into a snifter:

Best old ale I've ever had. Super dark brown in color and somewhat boozy on the nose, but, man...this is just smooth, caramel coated candy bar without ever being actually sweet. Coating mouthfeel, nice pleasant warming sensation. Truly wonderful.

I was hesitant to crack this, now I wish I had a few more. Much better than I expected, as I'm not typically a huge fan of the style. Definitely a recommended brew.

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Photo of TonyLuvsBeer
4.6/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had 2 5 oz pours from this year's Winter Solstice event at Kuenhenns Brewery. I had BB4D at the Summer Solstice event but I felt this batch was way better from what I remember. Very good smell. The taste was excellent, very smooth and balanced with only a hint of the bourbon. Great job on this brew.

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Photo of docoman
5/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I don't give too many overall 5's, but for the style Old Ale this is fantastic! Super smooth, great smell, taste, look, feel... just wish easier to obtain (I live only 20 minutes from brewery and still hard for me to get). Hopefully once Kuhnhenn expands from current 2500 bbls per year to around 20000 bbls annual we'll all get more to share.

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Photo of rodbeermunch
4.24/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Not the prettiest beer ever made thats for sure, this was brown for the most part, but would reveal some more fire kind of colors (orange and red) that came out around the edges.

Aroma was pretty much bourbon and caramel.

Taste was more of the same, add some toffee, thick ass viscosity mouthfeel. Vanilla comes out, smoke, you could pour this on pancakes while camping and get your day started.

Solid old ale, 1st tier.

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Photo of rodmanfor3
4.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was a terrific beer, though not at all what I expected in terms of taste.

The flavor is sweet molasses on the palate with dark fruit and nuts, all brought together by the bourbon barrel, in a thick and full body.

This was a meld of the best parts of a fruited stout and a barleywine packaged up in an old ale label.

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Photo of unclekeith
4.75/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

2014 12 oz bottle in a Taku

A: Deep, deep, brown, small persistent creamy, off white head, head is hanging around - so no chance for lacing
S: Dark fruit, bourbon, some oak - decadent - getting excited to try to sip!
T: Sweet more than bitter, bourbon, more dark fruit,
M: Thick and sticky, not much booziness, full bodied, high abv well hidden
O: This is 4D are in a class by themselves, may prefer the non BA version but definitely worth seeking out

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Photo of brentk56
4.61/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2010 bottling

Appearance: Pours coffee brown with a frothy head; the retention is not great nor is their much lacing

Smell: Dark fruit (fig and raisin), toasted coconut, marshmallow and nougat

Taste: FIg and raisin forward, with the toasted coconut, marshmallow and nougat flavors building; Bourbon and vanilla tones appear through the mid-palate, with all of the elements coalescing into the finish

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with low carbonation; some warmth from the ABV

Overall: Tasting this side by side with the base version from the same bottling year, the Bourbon barrel treatment removes some of the harsh elements in the finish and replaces them with toasted coconut and marshmallow tones; a wondrous beer

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Photo of Jonada
4.29/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2012 vintage. 12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance: Pours a dark murky red brown color with tiny patches of wispy foam an a thin light tan collar. Body is very murky but not completely opaque.

Smell: Bourbon, raisins, toffee, booze, caramel, brown sugar and a hint of oak.

Taste: Carmel and toffee, bourbon, dark fruits, red grape and a slight roasted character.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with a somewhat sticky mouthfeel with low/medium fine carbonation. Booze masked very well.

Overall: Really nice old ale. Ranks up there among the best examples of the style. Worth trying if you get the chance.

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Photo of winningwes91
4.75/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Pours out a murky pond brown color. Wow..I can already smell the bourbon. Toffee, caramel, woody oak, and bourbon for days on the nose. The taste is the same with the layers of flavor being bourbon, toffee, caramel, oak and more bourbon. Seriously the best olde ale I've ever had. 2011 vintage. This has aged beautifully

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Photo of KillerJigger
4.41/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Very balanced and rich tasting. The mouth feel was thick and full for this style. I would recommend this and get another. A good robust malt that doesnt overwhelm the pallet.

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Photo of FlandersNed
4.73/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

12oz bottle of delishiousness! 2013 dated bottle - gotta try a vertical of these... Dark, chestnut-brown hue, moderate height tan head. Aged citrus, nut & dark/stone fruit nose & flavor. Nice bourbon booziness and sweet malt. Full-body and moderate carbonation.

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Photo of macher0
4.58/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On draft at a birthday party.

Dark mahogony color with a nice fine bubble with a moderate retention time. The nose is filled with dried fall fruits and bourbon soaked oak. The taste follows nicely with major notes of plums, figs, dates, prunes and raisins. There is a moderate barrel presence.

This was a wonderful treat. The aging process did wonders for this beer. I was blown away.

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Photo of notchucknorris
4.7/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

2013 Bottle

A: Pours a deep amber color. Super murky and dense-looking with just a little cream colored head.

S: Smell is a touch more faint than I was expecting, but this is still money. Lots of charred oak, a bit of bourbon, burned brown sugar, toffee, maybe a little bit of milk chocolate covered cherry as it warms, along with some toasted coconut and marshmallow. Gets sweeter by the second as it warms.

T: It's everything the smell promises, with a big kick in the teeth from the booze to boot. Heavy molasses mixed with charred oak, cola nut, brown sugar and a little bit of leather. Finish just scrapes across your tongue with charred wood, bourbon, tobacco and warming alcohol. It feels like you have one of those hand warmers you use while you're skiing on your tongue after a few sips. Mouthfeel is absolutely flawless. Rich and velvety without being too heavy. Stands up to the massive flavors and booze without taking away anything. Really, really, really love this one.

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Photo of justinp444
4.92/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

This is the 2014 vintage from the summer solstice. Poured into a snifter this beer has a beige 2 inch thick head with a dark amber brown body. Smell is of wine must, raspberries, cherry, vanilla, bourbon, leather, slight spice, bread-y malt, molasses, dried fruit, plum, oak, and even coconut. Taste is tons of bourbon, cherry, vanilla, dried fruit, a slight warming alcohol (the most balanced alcohol I've had in a beer), caramel, toffee, a little bit of chocolate, lots of leather, wine must, and a nice bread-y malt. The mouth feel is full and the body is medium to full, it is syrupy and smooth, with just a little bit of bite. One of the best beers I've had, and deserving of it's status.

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