Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale) | Lagunitas Brewing Company

Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale)Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale)
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Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale)Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Lagunitas Brewing Company
California, United States
lagunitas.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.85%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
This sad holiday season we didn’t have the brewing capacity to make our favorite seasonal brew, the widely feared BrownShugga’ Ale. You see we had a couple of really good years (thank you very much) and so heading into this season while we are awaiting the January delivery of a new brewhouse we are jammin’ along brewing 80 barrels of IPA and PILS and such every 3 hours. A couple of months back we realized that since we can only brew a mere 60 barrels of Shugga’ every 5 hours, that we were seriously screwed. For every case of Shugga’ brewed, we’d short 3 cases of our favorite daily beers. It’s a drag. This year, we brewed something that we think is also cool and brews more like our daily brews. The new brewhouse will help insure this kind of failure never happens again. It’s a mess that we can not brew our BrownShugga’ this year and we suck for not doing it. There is nothing cool about screwing this up this badly and we know it. Maybe we can sue our own sorry selves. There is no joy in our hearts this holiday and the best we can hope for is a quick and merciful end. F*@& us. This totally blows. Whatever. We freaking munch moldy donkey butt and we just want it to be all over...
So this substitute beer is a ‘Cereal Medley’ of Barley, Rye, Wheat, and Oats…. Full of complexishness from the 4 grains, and weighing in at 7.85% abv, Then joyously dry-hopped for that big aroma and resinous hop flavor.

Added by Jules11788 on 11-07-2011

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#427
Reviews:
1,620
Ratings:
10,275
Liked:
9,724
Avg:
4.32/5
pDev:
9.72%
Alströms:
3.97
 
 
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656
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Ratings: 10,275 |  Reviews: 1,620
Photo of Sammy
4.01/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Great hop aroma. Generous head. Above average mouthfeel. Good malt backing, caramel, a bit of fruit. Nicely carbonated. Nicely drinkable. superior IPA just the right amount of bitterness. Recent bottle from Premier Gourmet. I could have a four pack in the fridge of this.

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Photo of acurtis
3.75/5  rDev -13.2%

Photo of kylehay2004
4.48/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Single finger head on a clear golden with very mild crimson hues body, head is white with tons of lacing. The aroma is mostly grapefruit, tropical and light pine. The flavor is almost perfect with a very nice musty hop flavor with citrus, floral and piney hops with the right amount of each to make an excellent tasting beer. Medium body and moderate carbonation. This is an excellent beer. Very similar to their something wild, just not as citrusy and more booze.

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Photo of Texasfan549
4.5/5  rDev +4.2%

Photo of jaydoc
4.04/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.24/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear light honey orange with a 1 inch fizzy off-white head that settles to a film on the top of the beer. Random dots and streaks of lace form on the glass on the drink down. Smell is of lots of tropical and citrus fruits mainly. Taste is of malt, pine, citrus zest, and tropical fruits. A mild bitterness lingers on the palate after each sip. This beer has a crisp carbonation with a bubbly mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good IPA with the tropical fruit aroma and flavor that I love in hoppy beers.

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Photo of GRG1313
5/5  rDev +15.7%

Photo of spycow
5/5  rDev +15.7%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.19/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

one of the most hyped beers on the forums here, and in the top 100, so needless to say, I was stoked to find this on the shelf. the pour is a lovely honey color, pretty much clear, with a lot of rising carbonation and a two inch white head with excellent retention. the nose is that sweeter, more oily hop that lagunitas is so good at getting into their beers. sweeter malt base as well. the flavor is good, fresh hops on the pine end of the spectrum, but the sugar is more than I like in my india pale ales. decent bitterness in the finish, but the residual sugar is close to overwhelming. also, does lagunitas use the same friggen yeast in every one of the beers they make? to me its such a detractor now, it doesn't belong in half the beers, and its boring me here. good feel though, medium body and fine carbonation. its a damn good ipa, but it gets a little alcohol heavy as it warms up, which exacerbates the sugar and the same old yeast they always use. to me, its good, but way overhyped. just my opinion, so don't crucify me, but a new yeast would do this brewery and this beer wonders.

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4.5/5  rDev +4.2%

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4/5  rDev -7.4%

Photo of Knapp85
4.29/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Big thanks to jzeilinger for bringing this one for me to try. This poured out as a nice looking orange color with a white head on top. The head settles a little bit but leaves a really nice sticky lacing on the glass. The smell of the beer is ripe with citrus notes and some addition pine in there. It smells like a DIPA for sure, and a good one at that! The taste of the beer is hoppy with the citrusy pine notes with some subtle caramel malts in the finish. The mouthfeel is nicely carbonated and has an oily feel to it while remaining lighter bodied. Overall I thought it was a killer beer, probably best when it's fresh and I believe this was.

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4.5/5  rDev +4.2%

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4/5  rDev -7.4%

Photo of oriolesfan4
4.32/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Love me some Lagunitas and was disappointed to here Brown Shugga (one of my all time fav's) wasn't being released, but a new beer should hold me over. Has the typical Lagunitas "flavor" to it, which isn't bad, you can just tell their beers apart for some reason. For a double IPA, it's quite malty and reminds me a bit of their undercover shutdown moreso than a hop bomb. None the less, it's a delicious beer, super drinkable and smooth for the ABV, and packs plenty of malty goodness. It might not be Brown Shugga, but it does a pretty damn good job in it's place.

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4/5  rDev -7.4%

Photo of metter98
4.37/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is clear golden yellow in color and has some hints of amber hues along with a moderate amount of carbonation. It poured with a finger and a half high dense white head that has excellent retention properties and took a very long time to die down, consistently leaving a short head covering the surface and lots of lacy rings of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: Moderate to strong aromas of citrusy hops are present in the nose—tangerines and grapefruit seem to stand out in particular.
T: Like the smell, the taste is very citrusy and also has prominent flavors of tropical fruits in the form of mangoes. A light to moderate amount of bitterness is present.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little crisp on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is extremely drinkable, especially since the bitterness is subdued compared to other beers in the style and no traces of alcohol are present in the taste. It's packed with so many flavors of mangoes and citrus that I feel like I am getting 100 percent of my recommended daily allowance of vitamin C.

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4.31/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

And the audacity to admit that their beer sucks is s profound that they wear it on their label like an ill-conceived tattoo, I'm most insulted that they actually pass off a pretty nice beer as something that sucks.

It's obvious horrendous appearance begins with an eerily hazed burnt orange hue and culturing bubbles that rise from its depths to fuel a foamy froth of sea foam to cap the beer. Its cellular lacing clings to the glass with broken spider webbing for a peculiar and alluring look.

And its pungent aromas are of over-ripened citrus fruit, juicy and plump in its scent are the notes of oranges, grapefruits, mangoes, tangerines, kumquats, apricots, pineapples, and lemons- its culmination of aromas are saturated with light caramel for a candied scent similar to that of the candied apples you get at the circus.

And its flavors suck every bit as much as aromas. That pungent taste of citrus is so dominant that little else arises. It's a little sad that all of us malt-lovin' beer drinkers are subjected to such sharp, acidic, and resiny taste. It's too bad that the underlying malt taste only offers support to the hops and don't offer much resistance. Distracted by the zesty taste of mangoes, apricots, pineapple, and blood orange, the beer can't soely focus on bitterness but instead shares the stage with tropical and citrus fruits.

Its creamy upstart keeps the beer from dryness, just as its dry finish prevents the linger of fruit- you just cant' win with this beer. Its ultra-dry fruity finish is diffused by subtle bitterness and its warmth is circumvented by resin dryness. What's a guy to do but simply enjoy the beer!

Truth be told, it's hard to discuss the beer's taste in a condescending way while describing the attributes that makes it wonderful. If the beer does suck, then it sucks in the most wonderful of ways.

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Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, the perfect choice for your holiday six-pack needs (especially since at this time of year, I don't feel too put upon to blow 20 bucks on a half-dozen beer). Recent party leftovers, shared now on Christmas Eve, with my mom...and poured into her 'vintage' 1960s era Hamm's chalice - oh yeah!

This beer pours a clear, bright, yet darkish golden yellow colour, with two fingers of loosely foamy, and mostly bubbly off-white head, which leaves some splendidly grotesque cobwebbed lace around the glass as it slowly abates.

It smells of bitter citrus (orange, pineapple, and lime) cream, caramel malt, a further apricot fruitiness, and a twinge of somewhat dank pine essence slowly on the rise. The taste is fairly bitter pine resin and muddled citrus rind, soft bready caramel malt, fading apricot/peach, a bit of musty weediness, and a distinct lack of any overt booze warming.

The carbonation is moderate, though a tad prickly at times, the body a kind of flaccid medium weight, yet still evenly and pleasantly smooth. It finishes off-dry, the hop fruitiness more up in front with the lingering grainy caramel, than lounging with any attendant dry bitterness.

Hoppy? You bet your mistletoe-adjacent ass it is. Bitter? Hardly at all - Scrooge himself seems to have wielded control over that particular item on this wish list. Anyways, a worthy mea culpa/marketing stunt, whatever, it's good, and way more approachable/poundable than I had been led to believe. Mom (she of the bitter beer face tendencies) said it wasn't bitter at all, and quite nice. Ah, it's a verily wonderful life...that's what's actually on the TV, so, well, that's enough for me right now, sigh.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.35/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

I'd reviewed last year's (2011) unfavorably on 12/05/11. I'd given it a 2.53. This year, I decided to revisit it given the hype. My original review is included below, but the rating given here reflects my latest review.

7.85% ABV confirmed. 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in Los Feliz, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the hype and more recently the recommendation of a friend, blakelive784.

Served straight from the fridge. Acquired earlier tonight at a local SoCal beer store. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of beige colour, nice cream and thickness, and pretty good retention for the high ABV (~4+ minutes). Body colour is a clear somewhat dull copper. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Typical for the style. Standard fare so far.

Sm: Grapefruit citrus hop notes, pungent floral hops, that distinctly Lagunitas hop extract/hop oil note, hints of hop nectar, and pale malts. Lightly soapy. An assertive, imbalanced aroma that's pretty strong.

T: Heavy grapefruit. Some soapiness. Pale malts form the foundation. The Lagunitas trademark hop extract core. Hop bitterness does come through but it's well hidden by the abundant floral hop notes. Not particularly complex or subtle, but nicely balanced. No yeast character or alcohol comes through. Well layered and built, if simple. A bit soapy on the climax to its detriment.

Mf: Coarse and wet, bringing the flavours out. Good carbonation. Pretty good palate presence. Refreshing and nectary/oily. Suits the flavour profile decently. Coarser than many beers in the style. Not quite thick enough.

Dr: A very drinkable double IPA from Lagunitas, but it's nowhere near as special as current reviews suggest. I'd certainly try it on-draught, but it's not a world class double IPA. Hides its ABV well. Doesn't live up to the hype, but it's a solid beer in the style and one that I like. I'll be glad to see this year-round. Would pair well with spicy food.

B-

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12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into De Molen stemware in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high as I've seen this compared to some pretty high-rep beers.

A: Pours a half-finger head of fair cream, decent thickness, and good retention - especially for the ABV. Colour is a transparent yellow.

Sm: Extremely hoppy. That's all I detect. A moderately strong aroma.

T: Wonderfully hoppy, but lacking in balance. Too bitter. The balance is entirely wrong. Otherwise, the build is decent.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with some coarseness on account of the hops. A poor match for the flavour.

Dr: It seems they just dumped hops in without considering balance. I had high hopes for this, but it epitomizes the worst aspects of beers that handle the style in precisely the wrong way.

***
07.25.17 3rd impression from a sixer acquired in FiDi New York, NY, for $12.30 including tax and deposit. This batch is 8% ABV.

I think I got an old sixer; hop flavour is lacking, bending twangy and pulpy with some citrus rind thrown in. Soapy yet bitter. Lemon detergent comes to mind. Balance isn't dialed-in.

Booze is well disguised, but this must be an old bottle; it's not a great imperial IPA and I remembered it better.

C+ / ABOVE AVERAGE

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Photo of emerge077
4.3/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Drank countless bottles of this beer, time to put a review on paper.

Bright orange gold pint, perfectly clear with sharp clarity. Lasting head of foam that has a creamy texture on it's surface. Drippy lace is left behind over time. Healthy skim on the surface that never breaks.

Pungent citrus, orange mostly, sweet but also generally dank with hop-stank™. Resiny, lush, almost tropical with candied orange peel and green hops.

Flavor delivers more lush hop flavors, very citrusy again, moderate resiny bitterness, grapefruit and orange peel derived, some light pale malt notes in the middle. Dry and pleasant aftertaste of lingering hops. Medium bodied, and very sessionable despite the higher ABV. Pretty delicious IPA. Amped up citrusy hops with a great drinkability to it.

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Photo of dmorgan310
4/5  rDev -7.4%

Photo of brentk56
4.47/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear golden color (looks like a pils) with a creamy cap that leaves a few shards behind

Smell: Floral citrus, with pineapple and ruby red grapefruit tones

Taste: A hop bomb from the get-go, with citrusy flavors redolent of ruby red grapefruit and pineapple; slightly sugary, after the swallow, but the hops return to provide a bitter, citrusy finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate, but crisp, carbonation

Overall: The malts provide a neutral backdrop for the hops to work their magic and that is a great thing for a Double IPA to accomplish

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Photo of oline73
4.5/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really excited to find this in MD. Poured from a bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a clear light golden/amber with a finger of thick white head that fades to a ring around the edge of the glass and leaves a ring around the edge of the glass.

Smell: The dominant smell is definitely the hops. I'm picking up citrus and mild pine with some grapefruit rind in there. Mildly sweet malt in the background balances things out a bit.

Taste: Taste a lot like it smells. Really strong citrus peel hop bitterness right off the bat. There are some pine notes as well. The hop profile is fantastic. There is enough malt to balance things out, but the taste from it isn't very strong. The finish is bitter and hoppy.

Mouthfeel: The body is on the thick side and quite sticky. There is a good amount of carbonation with a dry finish.

Overall: I really hope they end up making this one again. The citrus hop taste is fantastic. I will definitely have this again if I have the chance.

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4.5/5  rDev +4.2%

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Lagunitas Sucks (Brown Shugga Substitute Ale) from Lagunitas Brewing Company
Beer rating: 94.6% out of 100 with 10,275 ratings
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