Dragon Stout | Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Desnoes & Geddes Limited
Jamaica
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Style: Foreign / Export Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
None provided.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#41,783
Reviews:
259
Ratings:
520
pDev:
17.77%
 
 
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Reviews: 259 | Ratings: 520
Photo of BB8Bbbeer
4.34/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Dragon Stout, the First of Its Name, The Unhoppy, Ruler of the islands, and the First Beer, Rule of Animal kingdom, Khaleesi of the Great Brew Sea, Protector of the Brewery , Regent of the Seven distillers, Breaker of Tradition and Parent of Dragon stouts

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Photo of Eamonn-Cummings3
3.98/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a high sided tulip glass.

Look is very dark with cola highlights at the edges and little to no head.

Aroma is fruity and toasty malt.

Taste is unusual for a stout very light and refreshing with a touch of nutty roastings at then end.

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Photo of hophugger
2.7/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Dark in color with minimal tan head. Aromas of hot chocolate, Taste is over the top sweet and alcoholic !. some charred sugar and dark malts and raisins but sweetness ruins any balance and complexity that should be there in a stout. Mouthfeel is once again sweet and lightly bitter and almost get a bit of waterness. Sweetness and Alcohol feel takes this below an average stout unfortunately

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Photo of EMV
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass

L: Slick black pour with thick fluffy off-white head.

S: Sweet sugars and cocoa.

T/F: Just like it smells. Super sweet... burned sugars and chocolate. Needs something to balance it out. Dark fruit notes. Medium bodied... warming.

O: A below average stout. Way too sweet and unbalanced... and becomes nearly undrinkable as it warms.

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Photo of jlindros
3.76/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Reviewed as part of my BJCP training, 16C. Tropical Stout
very dark brown color, mostly opaque, very light tan head and little retention, opposite head from style guidelines

Nose very unique, very fruity, many different dried fruits, even like dried Jack fruit and pineapple, a little vinous and hint of licorice, very light roasty dark malts, and some buttery diacetyl, touch of alcohol almost solventy note

Taste fairly sweet and syrupy, some dark more brown like malts with maybe a touch of roast, little burnt coffee ground like chalky dryness, little hop bitterness and grassy note, but tons of fruity esters, again dried pineapple, apricot, fig, raisin, etc, little rum like as well as molasses sweetness, bit of buttery diacetyl on the back end, little perfumey alcohol but very light, finishing a bit hotter and mild coffee chocolate malts and more fruits lingering

Mouth is medium to fuller bodied, a little slick diacetyl, and creamy malt like, light carbonation, mild alcohol warmth

Overall this is a unique beer, fairly within style guidelines, some interesting characters, tons of fruit even more than I expected, malts are not as strong or roasty as expected, head is def not where it should be, hops might be a bit too aggressive, fruity esters were fun but maybe a bit much. I still think it's a fun beer and probably completely misunderstood to most people, especially if it's labelled as Foreign/Export Stout.

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.85/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

From the 11.something bottle in a snifter...to lazy to look at the bottle---long day.
This rather nice stout pours a shimmering opaque with cola highlights and a
nice head of off white khaki foam that settles to a thick ring, thin light layer, and
displays some subtle sudsy lacing. Nose of under-ripened banana, dark chocolate
malts, mild coffee, and subtle char with some black strap molasses. Flavors follow
the nose with exceptions of mild banana notes with touches of cola and light char
around hints of coffee and vanilla with sweet black strap molasses.
Solid mouth feel; medium body, medium mouth feel, light carbonation, and
a sweet lightly char touched finish with some banana notes present.

Overall, a great change of pace stout for the stout purist out
there. Worthy of trying for a lighter style of stout with some tropical
elements.

Cheers

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.22/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Black in color with a hint of ruby highlights. Not much light penetrates it. There's a fingernail of beige around the rim and covering the vast majority of the top. The aroma is of brown sugar, dark figs, and caramel. I'm tasting cola, caramel, and brown sugar. The mouth is somewhat thin and watery. This is not what I remember tasting about 20 years ago, but I think my palate has evolved a bit.

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Photo of Act25
3.72/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Harshly judged. I'd like to blind taste test this with Guinness Export and mass stronger stouts and for that it's not bad.
a) A for appearance. Pours a black-brown with three fingers of foamy tan head that lasts but splashes premium lace around.
s) Smells of bittersweet chocolate, caramel malt, roasted coffee, banana with some alcohol notes.
t) Taste follows smell with more sweetness, coffee milk, cocoa, wood fire, and char, a bit of hops balance out the sweet.
f) Low carbonation, a little thin, but has its creamy moment in the mouth, finish is dry with a fine hop bite. Warming.
o) As a reviewer wrote: "Like to compare Guinness FES side by side with Dragon".

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Photo of Tone
2.6/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 2.5

Pours a black color. 1/4 inch head of a tan color. Slight retention and decent lacing. Smells of strong corn, hint of sweet malt, hint of roasted malt, and a hint of alcohol. Fits the style of a Foreign/Export Stout. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of strong corn, hint of sweet malt, hint of roasted malt, hint of hop, hint of chocolate, and a hint of alcohol. Overall, the adjunct sadly dominates body and aroma, though the body is slightly better than aroma.

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Photo of Sable
2.64/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

From the folks who make Red Stripe. Amazing disappearing head, even with a rough pour. Remarkably sweet, but with an unpleasant bitter Backtaste. Harsh alcohol smell and taste.

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Photo of Nass
1/5  rDev -71.3%
look: 1 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

I have had a plethora of stouts from all around the world and this has to be in the top 5 of the worst tasting stouts that I ever had. Am I drinking a stout here or 12 oz bottle of an alcoholic prune juice. This is disgusting. Most of this 12 ounce bottle ended up down the kitchen sink. I notice that other people on this page seem to like this beer. I guess these fools would like anything that is served up them. Not me I am going to tell you how it is. Additionally, there is NO DATE anywhere on the bottle so I don't know if it's been on the shelf for a year or two and that is what has caused this beer to come out this way. If you can finish an entire bottle of this there is something wrong with you, this is not okay. Cheers! D-

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Photo of teromous
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

There is a marking in yellow on the back side of the bottle near the shoulders: "BB 07 MAR 19 7250388M 09:26"

Appearance: It pours dark brown to black with a large creamy and pock-marked very light khaki head. It has exceptional retention and shows no signs of retreat. It leaves spotty lacing on the glass.

Aroma: It has a slightly spicy aroma which is very welcome. There is a bit of cocoa and coffee scent to the beer. It has a lofty nutty (roughly peanut) aroma to the beer which gives it this unique character. There is a bit of a sweet smelling aroma at the end which is a bit like maple or brown sugar.

Taste: There are flavors of burnt caramel and coffee grounds. This is all very light but with prominent character. After a while the beer picks up more of a cocoa flavor with a larger character of anise or black licorice.

Mouthfeel: It feels light. At first the light body of the beer feels a bit insulting for a beer like this but slowly it starts to become refreshing and uplifting. It becomes the lightly roasted beer with a light body that works nicely in the heat at a picnic or at the beach. The beer is exceptionally easy to drink which means you can easily have more than one of these.

Overall: It's hard to describe this beer. As an import it has something to offer with its light body yet roasted coffee-like character. It would be a great choice for a big family get-together in the Summer heat. It works exceedingly well as a picnic or beach beer when you want something light but roasty. If you are not purchasing this as an import then you will likely enjoy the additional character that this beer provides over the other, readily available, export stouts.

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Photo of VoxRationis
2.62/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.5

Decanted from a 9.6oz (284 ml) bottle into a conical pint glass; best by 3/24/19.
A: Pours a very dark brown color with a quarter to half inch, tan head, little retention, and almost no lacing.
S: Very limited aroma of sarsaparilla, coffee, and tutti-fruity.
T: Sweet. The taste follows the nose to some degree, but concordia grape, not evident in the nose, is very much in the mix (and not welcome).
M: No more than medium bodies, low carbonation.
O: Really want to stay positive. This is more a porter and not a particular enjoyable one.

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Photo of papposilenus
1.83/5  rDev -47.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

From a 9.6oz bottle with a best by date of 08/15/18. Served in a tulip.

A thin-appearing, dark oak-brown pour with lots of big-bubbled carbonation clinging to the glass. A scant finger of tight, dark tan foam has little retention but leaves a thin collar and a few spots of lacing.

Nose of metal shavings and grapes.

Taste follows the nose, Welch's grape juice, copper, and licking out an ashtray.

You know what? I think we're going to skip right over mouthfeel and just pour this bad boy down the sink.

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Photo of puboflyons
3.37/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

From the 284 fl. oz. bottle! The date listed is 15 Aug 2018. Sampled on December 31, 2017.

It pours a deep dark brown to near black color with a modest tan head that fades quickly but leaves lacing ion its wake.

Big vanilla and dark roasted malt character on the nose. Toffee and caramel. Low hop profile.

Light to medium body but smooth.

The taste is sweet with a full vanilla note. The bitterness at the end if mild generally. Not bad but a little too sweet for me.

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Photo of MinerBob
3.54/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

An odd stout! Beer pours a dark coffee color with a thin light head. The smell is off putting kind of like paint thinner. The flavor has a watery champagne taste but isn't bad just not what I expect in a stout. Then the fact it's called "Dragon Stout" but brewed in Jamaica makes it even stranger. Overall not horrible but a ton of better stouts out there. Oh and it's only 9.6 go oz per bottle. Like I said just odd.

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Photo of Jtee
2.17/5  rDev -37.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

From a 300ml bottle served slightly chilled at 16 degrees Celsius into a snifter. Best before date: 24.10.2018

Look: The beer pours an opaque black with 2cm of foamy, tan head that fades into a partial film in less than two minutes. Poor head, no lacing.

Smell: Moderate strength with decent balance. Adjunct grain, milk chocolate, and faint roastiness. Maybe some coffee? Definitely metallic.

Taste: Moderate strength and sweet. Cloying and unpleasant. Some roastiness with milk chocolate and honey(?). Metallic, too strong a minerality which really comes through in the finish. I hoped the flavour would trump the aroma; it didn't.

Feel: Medium body with low carbonation. Creamy, mouth-coating (in a bad way), and acrid. Restrained alcohol warmth – certainly doesn't hide it well. The unpleasantness builds on each sip.

Overall: I've been looking at the six packs of this stuff on the store shelves for a while and finally landed a single from the basket of misfit brews. Boy am I happy I waited for a single. The label, origin, and name all make it exotic, but it fails to deliver in all respects. Too sweet, somewhat artificial, and comes with off-flavours. Boring, lifeless, do I need to go on? I really don't understand how I'm so far off from the bell curve. I don't think it's a bottle gone awry, I trust my gut.

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Photo of The_Kriek_Freak
4.05/5  rDev +16%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

It pours black with a tiny head that only lasts a few seconds. The nose is adjunct-like and rather sweet. The taste is also fairly sweet with a metallic aftertaste. Hardly any bitterness of burnt flavors. Not much else (other than the color) to suggest that this is a stout. Not an unpleasant beer by any means but not what I expect from a stout. Nonetheless, a very tasty beer and a great accompaniment to food.

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Photo of woodychandler
3.64/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I am sticking with my current trend of bottled Stouts as part of the Bottle Backlog Eradication for the time being.

From the bottle: "Jamaican Original Since 1920".

I Pop!ped the cap & stood back, afraid that a dragon might come out, having been unleashed. When nothing of the sort occurred, I began a heavy-handed pour in the hopes that I might rouse the hidden dragon, but again, no such luck! However, I did get a finger of dense, puffy, deep-brown head with great retention for my troubles. Color was Black/Opaque (SRM = 44) & there was ZERO light penetration. Nose was smoky and roasty, but with a subtle sweetness that was unexpected. Mouthfeel was full, creamy & silky, caressing my poor, bruised tongue. Perhaps I should take an IPA break more often ... The taste was not at all bitter and instead had a candy-like sweetness. I was somehow put in mind of cherry-flavored hard candies as a child. There were some that were simply drops with a green plastic stem and others in my maternal grandmother's candy jar that had an abrasive sugar coating which was very rough in the mouth. Finish was sweet and not at all what I had expected. If I am to review to style, then I have to dun it for not having "a very pronounced roasted character." Sorry. I liked it, but it was out of spec for the style.

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Photo of brap
4.31/5  rDev +23.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

This is an excellent stout. Lightly carbonated, nice malty slightly sweet coffee taste . Happy that it's available at my local Bronx delis, which seem to be hellbent on having the worst beer selection on the planet.

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Photo of DoctorZombies
3.28/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown, almost black (30+) pour; quick beige/lite tan head; good clarity under cap; thin rings of lace. Lactose and lite roast malt nose; flavors of sweet milk and lite caramel malt. Medium lite mouthfeel and moderate minus carbonation. Very lite roast finish and short sugary linger; seemed lite for a 7.5% ABV. Otherwise a very easy drinking, sweet milk stout.

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Photo of EMH73
3.28/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Pours black in color with a half inch tan head that left no lacing. Smells of chocolate, roasted malts and dark fruit. Tastes just as it smells with. Additional notes of coffee and a slight molasses sweetness. Lightly carbonated and light bodied, a little watery for my taste, drinkable but nothing more.

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Photo of EmperorBevis
3.61/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled
Pitch black body with tiny flecks of tan bubbles rather head
Quite appealing aroma black jack chews
Blackcurrant chew flavour, slightly sweet but not sickly.
Not big but not bad

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Photo of Adsfadsfaids
2.15/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

330 ml bottle purchased from the LCBO, poured into a stemmed IPA glass. Best before date of 11/8/17. Consumed 8/23/16.

A: Black. None more black. Impressive head at first pour that diminished quickly.

S: Bitter dark chocolate, dark fruits, metal. The booziness is overwhelming. Brings to mind mostly red wine or whiskey. I suspect there are adjuncts. Honestly I expected more.

T: Woah. The booziness is overwhelming. (again) Taste of dark fruit. Very little hop presence, which for me is usually a good thing in a stout, but there are no real malt flavours that I can pick up to carry it. Aftertaste of dark fruit again, as well as a smokey almost whiskey character. Certain that adjuncts are used. Cola flavour lingers on the palate.

M: Thin. So very thin. I don't know if that's because it's not all barley, but I suspect that's the corn.

O: I'm not really sure what to make of this... I wasn't getting any crazy sweetness like I was promised, at least not like other sweet stouts like Young's Double Chocolate. Still, I feel like I might be missing something. Honestly, it doesn't taste like beer to me at all. It's making me sick.

Honestly, I averaged my scores, and was pretty comfortable at a 2.6 overall rating. After finishing the glass, I feel like I'm being generous giving it a 2. But, as Professor Oak says; "There's a time and place for everything, but not now."

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Photo of CHickman
3.58/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours pitch black with a 1 finger foamy tan head that was full of bubbles of all sizes which crackled and popped as the head dissipated very slowly and left very good spotty foamy lacing coating the sides.

Smells of roasted malt, mineral water, dark fruit like plum and black cherry, dark chocolate and a fruity sweetness. Nose is malty yet a lot sweeter smelling than I expected, but still interesting and nice to inhale.

Tastes very sweet like it smells, but with the additions of brown sugar, maple syrup, cocoa nibs, raisins and black licorice. In the finish I got currants and coffee grinds to go along with the dark fruit like plum, dates and black cherry, and like the nose it had flavors of dark chocolate, roasted malt, mineral water and a fruity sweetness. Light ashy notes and what seem like a hoppy sweetness creep through making for a sweeter than I like stout, yet someone still enjoyable.

Feel is thin and watery with a slight bitterness, mild carbonation and an overall sweetness that took me by surprise. Overall better than the BA Score indicates, my friend Jim brought me back 2 bottles from the island and I enjoyed them both. Not the best stout out there but worth trying since it hides the ABV quite well.

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Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
Beer rating: 3.49 out of 5 with 520 ratings