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Dragon Stout | Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Desnoes & Geddes Limited
Jamaica
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Style: Foreign / Export Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
None provided.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#41,009
Reviews:
256
Ratings:
516
pDev:
17.82%
 
 
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22
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Ratings: 516 |  Reviews: 256
Reviews by montageman:
Photo of montageman
2.49/5  rDev -28.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Purchased this last November in Jamaica. Poured into a pint glass. Large 2 finger tan head present after an aggressive pour - typical dark brown to black color with intense lacing, but pour is a little thin for my liking. The smell is odd - sweet and chalky; none of the typical stout scents i.e. coffee, chocolate, or roasted character. Taste is not balanced at all - way too sweet with very little hop or malt balance, however, I could see why this would be brewed this way since the vast majority of people would be drinking this in 90 degree heat, The mouthfeel is rich, creamy, and coats the mouth; it's very nice. This is just way too sweet for me - the lack of balance is off putting as well. Recommended if you're in Jamaica, otherwise no need to search out.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of tbeer40
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

Photo of TheRealtor
3.16/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of EMV
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass

L: Slick black pour with thick fluffy off-white head.

S: Sweet sugars and cocoa.

T/F: Just like it smells. Super sweet... burned sugars and chocolate. Needs something to balance it out. Dark fruit notes. Medium bodied... warming.

O: A below average stout. Way too sweet and unbalanced... and becomes nearly undrinkable as it warms.

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Photo of philmen
3/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of nlmartin
3.38/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer comes from BC-2 Bif a big thanks to Viggo for sending this one. The beer was served in a pub glass.

Appearance: The beer has a black body with ruby opaqueness to light. The head was tall with a tan coloration. The head gradually resolved into a thin foam. Streaks of lacing remain on the side of my glass.

Smell: The beer smells super sweet. This beer is loaded with molasses, brown sugar, chocolate and a bit of coffee. The beers alcohol is very noticeable in the smell.

Taste: This is a very sweet malty beer. The beer has some chocolate and lightly roasted coffee flavors. The beer has a somewhat funky fruityness black currant and licorice anyone. This beer didnt have the roasted flavors I expected. Hops play no part in the flavor.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is barely carbonated. It manages to be creamy inspite of a rather thin body. The beer drinks ok overall. I wouldnt want to session this one.

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Photo of Smoky54
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

Photo of albern
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This stout is not for the faint at heart. It pours an inky dirty brown color impenetrable to light. The head is very creamy, on the small side, some retention and minimal lacing. The nose on the beer is pungent. There is clearly an ABV presence in the nose, deep caramels, chocolates, but just lots of booziness throughout. The nose could scare you away by itself.

The taste is maximally creamy. The is one of the creamiest stouts I've had. This is definitely full bodied, very sweet, almost lactose stout sweet, with lots of chocolate malts, honey molasses, and some roasted notes. There might be some cherry chocolate soda in there as well. There is definitely a throaty burn and lots of ABV with the beer. The beer is like oil on the tongue with a sweet buttery molasses residue in the mouth and beyond. This is a sipping beer for sure. It is quite good, is full palated, makes a strong statement. There isn't much hop, there isn't much roasted or charred notes to the beer, and it is very much tilted to the sweet creamy side of the ledger. Worth seeking out. L'Chaim.

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Photo of Tarks
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

Photo of daliandragon
3.88/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The last time i had this beer was nine years ago and the evening ended at a crappy college bar here on LI with me way ahead in a Corona chugging contest that had the whole bar's attention, only to lose when the lime wedged in the longneck and cut off my beer. Then I went to go puke. It's funny the things you remember, but I remember this brew as an absolute buttkicker...
Pours solid black with healthy brown head into my pint glass. Nose is dominated by a vague oily/raisiny smell with malt and coffee also possibly in the mix. Lacing remains after the head retreats.
Initially strong, the heavy malt tinged alcohol flavor fades to a delicious coffee and mocha combo that could stand to lose a little sweetness if I'm going to be picky. Still, this is flavorfull, skilled beer craftsmanship from a non traditional supplier of quality brew that I'd go back to repeatedly.

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Photo of warpedrevolution
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of biegaman
3.38/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A sooty black with crimson infused, holding it up to the light concedes sharp, lucid streaks of colour. It also reveals the beer to be far from opaque, its transparency is unhampered and its complexion as crystal clear as a bright lager. Initially prominent, its khaki toned head has since rifted and is now divided into a series of black water surrounded archipelagos. Giant banners of lace hang proudly.

The aroma possesses a dessert quality sweetness in part to the immodest addition of cane sugar. It smells above all else like sugar, although granted, there are subtle notes of milk chocolate, molasses, coffee sweetener, black licorice, and just a touch of plum and grape. I wouldn't mind if the over-ripe fruit character was a little more prominent but I'm starting to like this just fine the way it is.

Thing is: I like my sugar with coffee and cream. To my disappointment, those faint impressions of molasses, debittered chocolate, caramel, and black licorice don't come forth any more in the taste. I also prefer it without the sting of alcohol; Dragon Stout breaths more fire than should be the case. I think the tooth-decaying sweetness compounds the intensity of what's otherwise a modest 7.5%.

I would imagine just a little more bitterness or roast could go a long way to extinguish that flame. Not to be overly repetitive but the sweetness is left unchecked. Nevertheless, this type of character is only befitting for the style and saving graces of anise star and candied cherries ensure the drinkability isn't too hindered. Like with the aroma, I was apprehensive at first, but the beer certainly deserves a passing grade.

Judges say to think of this style as either an amped-up sweet stout or a scaled-down Imperial stout. I don't get either of those from this particular example but I do sense a great likeness to a Baltic Porter. In appearance and strength, this shares as much resemblance to the stale coffee and debittered chocolate tasting lager-like dark beers of the Baltic as it does to anything else I've tried from the Caribbean.

I have my fair share of critiques of the Dragon Stout - the exaggerated sweetness, the unmasked alcohol - but I've always felt to really know a beer and truly experience it at its best you must try it fresh in its native land. Unless Desnoes & Geddes want to pay my way to Jamaica I'll have to believe this is just an average foreign stout; it's not something I see myself drinking again here in Canada.

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Photo of JohnBender
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.7/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 284ml bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a dark brown color, with a thin light brown head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is faint but contains coffee, chocolate, roasted malts and dark fruit.

T: The taste is sweet with flavors of milk chocolate, coffee and dark fruit. There's a hearty malt character but it's thin for a stout. The hops presence is mild complementary and brings some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down ok, not too filling, good kick, good representation of style, this is a decent stout that is worth drinking for a while, but there are better ones out there.

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Photo of rale
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of aychbomb
3.03/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Another brew I picked up on a recent trip to Manitoba

Appearance: Super dark brown/black, lots of bubbles; like a soda pop. Thick spongy tan head with moderatly good retention.

Smell: Low/medium malt aroma, subtle chocolate & molasses. Alcohol. Very low hops.

Taste: VERY SWEET; roasty grain/malt. slightly fruity. Almost no hop flavour.

Mouthfeel: Thin body with a smooth/creamy charater. Very Sweet,Highly carbonated.

Drinkability: Way too Sweet, like chocolate milk. may be a good intro to stouts for beer newbies. 7.5% realy gives a buzz.

cheers,
JH

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Photo of olbubba
4/5  rDev +14.9%

Photo of crwills
3.4/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured this into an old fashioned glass beer stein that I got from my Dad. Made it look great, and was the perfect size for the smallish bottle. Poured a reddish brown with some brighter highlights. Small foamy head that sticks around and leaves quite a bit of lacing.

Aroma is somwhat weak... toffee, roasted malt, and sweetness.

Flavour is good, if a little bit cloying. Roasted malts, sugarcane or brown sugar, and mild chocolate. No hop presence to speak of. Definite alcohol presence as it warms up a bit, which is also noticeable in the aftertaste. Good, solid mouthfeel.

This is not a bad choice, since it's available locally (and you can't get very many foreign/export stouts (or stouts period) around here, especially in the summer). However, it's a little overly sweet for my tastes, and after a six-pack (this was the last one), I think I may hold off on getting any more for a while.

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Photo of DougT
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Photo of Rochefort10nh
5/5  rDev +43.7%

Photo of cuy50
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

Photo of DarkerTheBetter
3.85/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This beer pours a deep dark brown that I can see just a bit into which is lighter towards the edges of my glass. The head is a curious light film with a bubbly collar.

Smells of boozy dark fruits, much like port. In a blind sampling, I could honestly confuse this with a port if it were not for the light coffee and wheat bread behind the dark fruits.

Tastes of a light powdery cocoa and rye with a heap of prunes to sweeten it out. A slight old coffee creeps in lending this brew a nice balance. Not my favorite flavor for the style, but it's put together well. Sadly a sugary sweet finishes this one off detracting from the overall experience.

Feels dense and smooth with a trapped mini-carbonation that adds a lot of body.

I was quite a bit shocked by how much I enjoyed this one. Never underestimate Jamaica's ability to brew a dark beer.

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Photo of Pelicanrocks
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

Photo of mintjellie
3.33/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Almost pitch black with hints of ruby when held to the light. Had to put it right next to my desk lamp to coax the colour out. Pours with a two finger tan head that recedes fairly quick, leaving no lace behind.

It has a very boozy and sweet aroma. Roasted malts are present, and maybe a touch of dark fruit.

Sweet dark fruit up front with mildly bitter roasted malt flavours in the background. Mild chocolate. Something vaguely reminescent of milk thats just on the verge of turning. Pleasant acidity throughout. Alcohol gets a little unruly as the beer warms.

Full bodied with low carbonation. Creamy. Had this two or three years back and couldn't handle how sweet and chewy it was, but having it now, I think I like it a bit more. Still not something I'd want all the time though. It still gets progressively harder to drink the closer you get to the bottom of the glass. Cloying.

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Photo of k3ve
4.2/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

really nice stout, tasted on a hot summer night. i recommend it with bbq :)

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Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
Beer rating: 3.48 out of 5 with 516 ratings