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Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
California, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by ThreeWiseMen on 06-25-2009

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Photo of AlCaponeJunior
4.1/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Orange to tan in color and crystal clear. Lots of lovely rising bubbles. White two finger head lasts and leaves sticky lacing.

"Grapefruit-pine" almost gets tiresome to type for the description off an IPA or DIPA, but it never gets tiresome to taste or smell. But that's what this one smells like. Crisp and delicious smelling, ruby-red meets Colorado pine forest on this one. Lovely aroma.

Taste wise it's extremely crisp and clean, like a ruby-red right off the tree in south Texas, accented with a lovely rocky mountain pine-cone backdrop. Almost oily with hops, yet still very clean. Malts just barely balance the flavor, but deliciousness is still achieved.

The feel is amazingly light and crisp, oily with bitter hops, yet sweet with easy-drinking delightfulness. It's an oddball in that it's so easy to drink, yet still meets the DIPA criteria.

Overall I'd say this one is a hit. I think it's my first from this brewery, and certainly cries out "give me more!"

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Photo of InebriatedJoker
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got this as an extra from Tripphop - Thanks again.

Poured from bomber into tulip - No best by date visible.

A: Poured a clear golden color with light amber hues , two finger head that dissipated into a thin lacing with slight webbing, decent carbonation.

S: Slight pine notes with some citrus and mild hops, decent malt scents as well.

T: Decent hops with slight pine notes some citrus as well. decent malt backing that evens out the bitter from the hops.

O: Overall a solid Double Ipa , I enjoyed the way it was balanced between the hops and malts neither one out weighed the other and left a good aftertaste . Would have again.

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Photo of willjschmidt
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz bomber into a Sierra Nevada hop tulip glass.

A: Pours a light orangish color with a 1/2" white head. Great head retention throughout.

S: Pungent hops in the form of candied citrus and pine.

T: A hop bomb for sure, but a fairly well balanced one. Pungent hops overlay a slightly sweet pale malt base. It's only slightly bitter for such a big DIPA. Hops are fruity with grapefruit and other citrus dominating hop profile. A bit of fresh pine as well.

M: Medium bodied, average carbonation. I like that it's not thick and viscous like some ABV DIPA's can be.

O: A top notch DIPA. A fairly easy drinker but the 9.5% sneaks up on you quickly.

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Photo of Janderson91
4.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to stupac2 for hooking me up with this one. Union Jack is one of my favorite single IPAs, so I have high hopes for this one. Bottled on 03/14/11. Enjoyed on 06/24/11.

A - Poured into a DFH snifter. Very nice clear light orange hue. One finger white head with big bubbles forms and leaves good lacing down the sides.

S - Pretty hoppy with a good sweetness and a slight alcohol twinge. Juicy grapefruit hops and some pine as well. Just like an amped up Union Jack.

T - Very sweet at first. Then a nice hit of grapefruity hop bitterness. Then the candy sugary sweetness comes back at the finish. Leaves a pine and grapefruit bitterness on the tongue. This is still quite hoppy after over 3 months.

M - Mouthfeel is perfect. Nice and creamy through the middle with just the right prickly carbonation. Love it.

O - Overall, if I had to do a blind side-by-side tasting, I'm not sure I could discern between Double Jack and Hopslam. I loved this beer. Truly a world-class IPA, not a hop bomb but perfectly balanced and quite complex. Keep it coming FW.

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Photo of scotvega18
3.98/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz bomber into a Southern Tier Tulip

A - A BEAUTIFUL Golden orange that is just spot on for the style, a fluffy eggshell white head is dissipating rather quickly leaving a nice ring of lacing. Virtually no hop haze as it is clear as day.

S - A lot of simcoe and chinook hops in there, with a lot of citrus and grapefruit. I think this beer is nearing the end of its shelf life as I smell a bit of Simcoe astringency which seems to happen when IPAs die out. Behind it all is a sweet bready malt that seems to be a nice backbone of this beer.

T - This starts out with a boatload of sweetness, as the malt actually starts out strong, after the flavor dissapates, however, there is a soft bitterness that remains. 9.5% dont taste that at all, But there seems to be an absence of any floral qualities and it doesnt finish quite as dry as i like my IPAs, but it is a nice change of pace from what IPAs have become: Bitter Bombs that rip the enamel off of your teeth.

M - No Alcohol and Carbonation is solid. The sweetness of the malt helps tie some of the looser elements together.

Notes - I admit, I expected more adventure from this beer, but I am not disappointed. What I thought was goign to be a bold deviation from the style ended up being an extremely solid albeit off centered DIPA. The sweetness was not expected but pretty nice.

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Photo of waldoiverson
3.95/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz Bomber into Nonic

A: very clear, gold color with very white head with tiny, active carbonation and fine lacing.

S: Rich orange and apricot, slight smoothness to the hops that suggest the presence of malt but no real outstanding breadiness

T: Sweet, orange blossoms, did i mention sweet, long smooth finish that starts to get a bit bitter 5 seconds after the swallow, a little bit of alcoholic heat wraps up the experience. I could actually use a little more bitter bite.

M: smooth and not as sharp as the carbonation suggests, ever so slightly dry

O: This is a really tasty beer, especially if you lean toward the heavier, sweeter, citrus and honey side of the tasting tracks. I could use a bit more punch from either the carbonation or bitterness to dial back the sweetness a bit.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
3.82/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter.

3.5 A: Clear medium orange color. Two fingers of white, creamy/frothy hybrid head. Average retention and a moderate amount of lacing.

4.0 S: Piney and citrusy hops. Tropical fruits including orange, mango, pineapple, and papaya. Malts are slightly bready with a fairly strong neutral maltiness underneath. Clean overall.

4.0 T: Hops flavor is like the nose. Lots of tropical fruit - mango, pineapple, papaya, and orange - with light pine and grapefruit. Surprisingly low bitterness. Moderate neutral maltiness, fairly bready, and maybe a bit of biscuit in there as well.

3.5 M: Medium body. Good moderate carbonation. I wish this was a bit creamier though. Smooth.

4.0 D: Good beer, but it's in a weird state between a dry, hop-bursted west coast DIPA and an east coast malt fest. Surprisingly bready for a non-bottle conditioned brew, but clean.

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Photo of jsulko
4.5/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bomber poured into a tulip glass

Slightly cloudy/hazy orangish gold with a decent white foam head

Smell is heavier toward the grapfruity side

Very smooth You can taste the grapefruity flavors with a slight alcohol finish with little to no bitterness

Very drinkable and dangerous double IPA that can really sneak up on you

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Photo of Gushue3
4.57/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Hazy orange into my snifter. A 1.5 finger white foamy head forms that keeps its shape for a while. Moderate lacing left about the beer. Looks like an enjoyable IPA. So close to a 5.

S- Nice and hoppy. Citrus is most noticable with orange and grapefruit. Heavy piney sap is in there as well, like ripping open a tree in my backyard. I like how this smells aalot.

T- sweet hops are mpre present up front like grapefruit, cirtus, and even a hint of mango. Turns bitter toward the middle with piney hops that go till the finish. He finisb leaves the mouth wet opposed to a dry, crisp end and lingers with bitterness.

M- lightish mouthfeel thats somewhat heavy on the carbonation. Tiny carbonation bubbles makes it feel smooth and kind of creamy on the tongue.

O- Really nice IPA. Hops are nice and make their presence kown. Smells unbelievable even when fresh out of the fridge. Cant wait to smell it warm. MASS is new to FW, and I was expecting a well balanced IPA, opposed to a great west coast IPA.

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Photo of Jwale73
4.1/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz. bottle served in my DT tulip. No dating indicated on the bottle. Pours a pale reddish-orange with a translucent clarity. Head was half an inch, creamy/foamy and off-white. Head eventually settles into a soapy skim with a dollop of white in the middle. Some spots and strands of lacing are present during the tasting. Nose expresses co-mingled aromas of sweet citrus and bitter rind with a slightly piny character towards the back. Taste follows nose - backbone is quite malty and the bitter/sweet dyad is nicely balanced. Additionally, there's just a trace of ethanol towards the back. Mouthfeel is medium-light (but closer to medium) with a slightly oily consistency, and a carbonation level that falls just short of prickly. There's also some residual alcohol heat that lingers at the back of the throat between quaffs. A really nice DIPA with great balance and very approachable at $7.99 a bomber. Would love to see this in issued as a four pack.

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Photo of ChrisCage
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a clear golden color that is quite possibly as close as you'll get to this hue. Looks like there is plenty of carbonation to dance with my tongue momentarily. The head isn't really impressive upon pouring, being only about a half inch thick, but it takes its' time to settle and finishes with a nitroed looking creamy top. The lacing is second to none....it's thick and clingy on the side of the glass!

S- Superbly smelling DIPA, in my opinion...lots of varying aromas going on here....everything from prominent grapefruit and tangerine/orange to pine needles to fresh herbally hop cones. The bitterness is quite well rounded and while assertive, isn't offensive or overdone.

T- This tastes very close to how it comes across in the aroma! The main difference is the distinct, softening malt profile that really balances this brew out....it like a honeyed sweetness I'm tasting. The citrus and piney hops are bitter, and are blended with a slightly woody/earthy dryness.

M- Surprisingly smooth and creamy for this style. There is a certain oilyness that glazes the palate, leaving me with a clear idea of what is going on in the brew. The oily character lingers on the palate after the swallow, leaving a reminder of its' flavor behind. As it drys on my lips, there is a sweet sticky malt residue noted as well!

O- Fruity, hoppy, smooth and rich, this is quite a nice beer to drink, and I'd be happy to get a hold of this again for enjoyment. The alcohol is so well hidden...I'd never know it's 9.5% other than from reading the label. A real pleasure to have....I'm really starting to dig these IPAs....I guess enjoying something of very high quality will help in this area!

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Photo of mothman
3.23/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours 1 finger of white head. Great retention with some thick lace.

Aroma: Pine hops, grapefruit citrus with a load of malts int here as well. Very bready with some booze showing.

Taste: More bready malts and a sweetness showing here. A lot of citrus flavors and the pine hops from the nose.

Mouthfeel: Very bitter. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation.

Overall, a bit too malty for my liking. It is very hoppy, but also very malty. Not my favorite dipa.

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Photo of Knapp85
4.54/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured out as a really nice looking copper color. The head was only about one finger in thickness but it left a great lacing from start to finish. The smell of the beer was wonderful, it had a great aroma of pine and citrus just exploding out of it. The taste was just about as good as the smell. Lots of piney sharpness along with some citrus fruits in the mix. Mouthfeel is oily with a bit of thickness to it. The beer just glides along the tongue though. Overall it's a great DIPA, very happy to have tried it!

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Photo of AndyAvalanche
4.5/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a Duvel Tulip Style Glass. Comes out an in between orange/yellow blended with gold color. Excellent clarity, I expected a little more hazyness to it, but it's not, not really a bad thing. Erupting white head that gives lots of lacing.

Smell is very good. It's very hoppy without being overwhelming. A good blend of citrus, then pine. As hoppy as it is, it's also very well malted. Pale glazed/caramelized malts. There is a slight tickle in the nose from some sweetness and I'm guessing the alcohol.

Taste is totally top shelf. Strong hoppy flavors, primarily grapefruit, then some lemon zest as well, hints of pine, hay and earthy tones all well blended. That's just the hops though, it's a very well balanced brew with plenty of malts. Again pale malts that are glazed with something real nice, almost like a honey or syrup, really, really tasty.

Mouthfeel is good, closer to medium bodied but on the lighter side. Initial sweetness with a sharp, clean bitter finish. Perfect carbonation level and extremely well balanced and drinkable. I'm digging this. My first of hopefully many Firestone Walker reviews!

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Photo of Mavajo
4.38/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a crystal-clear amber color -- if you hold it up to your eyes and look through it, it's almost like wearing a pair of blue blockers. Gorgeous. Nice white/eggshell head, and good lacing. Fantastic-looking beer.

This sucker's quite the palate-wrecker. Intense bitter hops, pine, citrus and a strong malt backbone with a touch of sweetness. Mouthfeel is good -- appropriate carbonation.

I really feel like this beer should be served in 12 oz bottles. I really enjoyed it at first, but I had a tough time getting through the whole bomber -- think it took me about 6 hours to casually sip my way through it. It's quite taxing on the palate, and my tastebuds were thoroughly wrecked by the end of it. "Too much of a good thing" maybe.

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Photo of blackcompg
4.34/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Let me start by saying Happy Fathers Day to all dads out there - this 22oz bottle of Double Jack was a Fathers Day gift from my son :) Poured from a 22oz bottle into a 12oz beer glass, and here we go...

Appearance - A vigorous pour yielded a good 3-finger head, dissipating to just under a finger in less than 5 minutes. Head is an off-white shimmery eggshell, with all sizes of bubbles - tiny fizz to large bubbles. A solid eggshell cap is left for the duration of the session. Color is a perfectly clear amber yellow-orange, a bit lighter than I expected, but still a very good looking beer. Nice lacing throughout the session.

Smell - From the bottle: Candied grapefruit, pineapple, and piney hops, really a great nose. From the glass: same as the bottle but "warmer", and some plum thrown in. Sweetness is accentuated a bit in the glass.

Taste - Oooohhhh, ALOT of flavors going on here! The sip starts out with some sweetness, like a juice of ripe yellow grapefruits, maybe a touch of carmel, tangerine and plum. Then the carbonation tingless the sides of the tongue and then the hops begin to explode (this is rated at 100 IBU's!)...grapefruit peel, pine, mint and...basil!..begin to mount at the back of your tongue and then work their way forward...all culminating into a very crisp, bitter, dry finish. Right after the swallow you begin to feel a gentle warmth from the alcohol at 9.5% ABV, otherwise the alcohol is hidden quite well. There is just barely enough sweetness here to counteract the full assault of hops on the palate, but this is not a bad thing. So many lingering flavors, pine, citrus, with muted mint and basil, and trace minerals - Very complex!

Mouthfeel - Even though this is a DIPA, this is a medium mouthfeel ale, not syrupy at all. Carbonation is on the low side, which keeps this a very smooth feeling beer, but some may pucker a bit as the bitter piney resins assert themselves and dry your mouth between sips - this is a hop bomb for sure, you've been warned ;)

Overall - I literally have never seen this beer in stores before, and I LOVE the fact that my son bought this for me, so I may be a bit biased :) Truly, this is a VERY GOOD DIPA, and one that must be tried. If you hanker for a high ABV hops bomb then "this is your Huckleberry" - you Will Not be dissappointed. If your looking for a strong malt backbone (sweetness) to counterract the dryness and bitterness, look elsewhere - this is all about the hops. But if you crave wonderfully bitter hoppy nuances that are not commonly experienced in other DIPA's, this is a treasure - mint and basil? It's here! For everyone, definitely not. But for a DIPA with some great depth and complexity, this is a must try.

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Photo of MrHurmateeowish
4.74/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz bomber purchased at McKinnon's in Salem. Pours a slightly hazy golden body with nearly an inch of off-white head. Smells amazing - grapefruit, orange pith, mint, grass... An assault on the taste buds - almost too much going on but in a good way. Orange, lemon, grapefruit, pith, mint, fresh-cut grass, several things I can't quite put my finger on, with just enough caramel and toffee to support the hops. On the heavier side of medium-bodied with moderate to low carbonation. Definitely a sipper but each sip invites another. Wow. One of the most unique, complex, and in-your-face DIPAs I have ever had in my life. Glad to see these guys getting distribution in NH now.

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Photo of Klym
4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Stone nonic.

A: Pours a light copper with a one finger head. Nothing outstanding about the appearance but also nothing bad. Reminds me of Union Jack but a little bit darker and a little thicker on the head.

S: Hops, grains, a little bit of raisin and brown sugar all come through on the smell. Smells quite good, but not quite amazing-- time to try!

T: Thick banana and raisin malty sweetness masking over a slight hop biterness. Really, the flavor is truly double that of a union jack, and just that. Again, quite good, but not quite amazing.

M: Carbonation is solid and general mouthfeel is too. However, nothing really goes above and beyond. This seems to be a theme: quite good, not quite amazing.

O: Really, it's hard to argue this as not being a solid IPA; everything about it is good. It's also hard to see it as being truly great, though. The appearance, taste, and smell all seem to have the same character, and that character is truly just double union Jack. As double Jack, it's hard to beat it up for accomplishing double all of the characteristics of Union Jack, but I feel a little sad that FW didn't go beyond simply that. If you like Union Jack, you'll probably like this twice as much.

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Photo of Cavery
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pint shared with Klym and SundaySour

A: hey there good lookin! orange with a color tint favoring blood orange, a wonderfully clear beer with absorbs light like a sponge. I'm pretty sure you could tan under the light of this beer. A solid 3 finger head with thick lacing that scarred the glass.

S: Pineapple, tangerine, and cumquat fruit salad. It's a sweet malt ceviche with sugar on top. I'm going to leave it at that, I pretty much nailed it (haha).

T: a perfectly mixed cocktail of sweet malt, tropical juice, and alcohol. The hops are but a minty garnish on this sweet juice bomb. Take a look at your glass, you are drinking a fancy appetizer. Make your friend pay the bill, it's going to be a fancy meal. masterfully subtle hop presence throughout the tasting experience.

M: if there was a velvet cactus, then it would certainly be named Firestone double jack. the mouth-feel is wonderfully peppery with thousands of microscopic explosions. Double jack is TNT, it's dynamite.

O: There's a lot good about this beer and there's some things that are great. The taste is really on the money, and the mouth-feel is consistently on par with the menu. while your friend might be paying for this fancy meal, be sure to contribute towards a good tip. This is after all a fine establishment.

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Photo of daledeee
4.53/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A nicely priced 22oz bomber. I was surprised to find this in the Midwest.

It pours a very bright gold. Unbelievable head and lacing.

Nose is wonderful clean citrus and floral.

Taste is a great citrus blend with citrus rind coming up quite strongly in the finish. Throw in a dose of pine all the way and you have one fine IPA.

Mouth feel is just right carbonation and the citrus rind stays around on the tongue for a long time.

This is one of the best DIPA I have had. I wonder how fresh it is? I would love to try this stuff on tap out west freshly released. It could be close to Nirvana. This one ranks up there.

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Photo of Franch
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

this double IPA was pretty awesome. it's got a big malty introduction that quickly gives way to the hop bomb. shockingly drinkable at a monster 9.5% ABV. this would be regularly stocked in my fridge on the west coast. it seems that firestone walker is pretty good at this - mainstays that aren't standouts, but are just really good and should be kept around on general principle.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.88/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice off-white head of about two fingers, that recedes to a thick foam thats lasts to the bottom of the glass. Clear copper color and good bubbling, and some lace. Good looking DIPA.

Citric with some toasted malt in teh aroma as well. Well balanced, but somewhat vague aroma. Lacks definition.

The taste starts with a nice pop of hop resin citrus peel bitterness. The sweet malt lends a hand at countering the hops power. Imbueing strong toasted, caramel malts to the palate. With a syrupy palate, the brew finishes hoppy, bitter, and just enough malt to balance the hop aggresion. Not too mention the alchol adding some warmth at the end.

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Photo of jamespub
3.87/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes form 6/9/2011 tasting.

A- Caramel/amber color. Very clear. Wonderful carbonation on this brew.

S- Malty and hoppy. What else would you expect? Pine, citrus..etc.

T- This is a fairly balanced IIPA leaning a little towards the hops. The malt holds it's own. It is sweet up front, with citrus, finished with better hop bite. My only gripe is the metallic/mineral aftertaste that is present in many IIPA's. It is not pleasant in my opinion.

M- Slightly above average. Nothing incredible, but good.

O- This is a good beer, but for the price, and the fact that I can get others that I prefer more, for less, I probably won't revisit this beer. Glad I tried it.

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Photo of rand
4.07/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass

Pours a copper-tan in color, forming a nice sudsy head with plenty of lacing. Streams of citrus and tropical notes bounce off the glass, grapefruit and pineapple prominent. The tropical notes carry into the flavor, but Double Jack has big, West Coast style hop character, giving the brew a fresh, bitter overtone. Caramelly malts balance the hop-rush, finishing nicely bitter-sweet.

A double IPA that stays true to the style - big, complex and tasty. Even amongst the plethora of amazing IPA's coming from this California, Double Jack delivers memorable flavors.

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Photo of jwinship83
4.07/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

on tap at the grumpy bulldog. served in a duvel green tulip for a pretty high $8 price tag.

A- the beer is served in an attractive snifter and comes to me looking a lightly hazy golden orange colored body with a small bright white head on top. the head has moderate retention and leaves behind small spots of lacing.

S- grapefruit is exploding from my glass. very hoppy. there are also pine notes in here, and a slight bit of pineapple. caramel malts sneak through near the end to try and add some balance.

T- the taste starts out with some caramel malts which offer up a mild sweet malty backbone. after that it quickly becomes all about the hops. lots of pine with even more grapefruit. i think i pick up a little pineapple towards the end.

M- the body is a solid medium. the carbonation seemed to be just about right. nice and bitter. the alcohol is well hidden.

D- the tulip was easy enough to finish, and i ordered another one. very good DIPA to be able to buy year round for a moderate price. ill be looking forward to finding this on draft again sometime soon.

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Double Jack from Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
4.28 out of 5 based on 7,499 ratings.
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