Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter | Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze WinterArmand'4 Oude Geuze Winter

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Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen

Style: Gueuze

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of largadeer
4.16/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared by nick3. Thanks a ton, Nick.

Clear, bright amber body with a tall frothy head that shows great retention and lacing. Malty, grainy nose with honey, stonefruit, restrained acidity at this point. Smells completely different than the other Armand'4 beers, decidedly more malty and somewhat sweet. The palate has a big grain and barrel tannin character, very biting and pleasantly astringent. Flavors of tart green apple, grapefruit, pale malt, bitter herbs. Sourness is present but mild, though it should intensify with age. Body is pretty big for gueuze, and the finish has a surprising bitter kick along with lemon rind-like tannins. Good stuff, very different than the other beers in this series, perhaps less good but still thoroughly enjoyable.

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Photo of islandboi8204
4.05/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Opened along side Lente, Zomer, Herfst, shared 4 ways.

Pours a hazy peach colored body, large white fluffy head with dense lacing.

Smells very complex, musty oak, earthy, lemon zest, and almost some metallic. Even some pumpkin pie and smokey meat... very interesting.

Tastes like lemon and grapefruit with a heavy dose of wood and funk. This one is a lot more earthy than the other 3 seasons. I thought from the first few sips that I would like this variation the best, but as it warmed, it became my least favorite. The pumpkin sausage pie flavors were too much after a while.

Light to medium body, smooth carbonation.

Overall, my least favorite of the Armand’4 series. Way too much earthiness and off flavors for me. I thought it would be the most interesting and unique variation at the beginning, in terms of flavor and smell, but as it warmed, the others were more drinkable with their balance.

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Photo of orangesol
4.17/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to stakem for bringing this one to our recent gueuze tasting, providing the last of the four to complete the series.

A - Pours golden amber orange with a creamy one finger tall white head leaving sticky trails of lace down the glass.

S - Smells of lemons, apples, wet hay, light barnyard funk, minerals and a surprising amount of oak. A bit more funk, less sourness, than I was expecting. Very nice nose.

T - Starts off with a bit of acidic fruit - mostly lemons - quickly giving way to hints of dry oak, wet earth, hay and some musty basement funk. The funk is pretty strong, not as sour as I was expecting it to be, leaving the pallet dry after the finish.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Smooth, tart feel with quite a bit of dry oak tannin in the finish, the most of any of the beers in the series. All things considered, a very nice feel.

O - My least favorite of the series yet still an enjoyable gueuze. I think this one is a little rough around the edges at this point in time. I hope to try this one again in the future.

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Photo of callmemickey
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opened 2/14/2012 with the wife.

A: Hazy peach colored body. Large off-white frothy head. Dense lacing.

S: Musty oak and minerals. Light underlying lemon acidity.

T: Surprisingly fruity -- lemon and grapefruit -- given the predominantly woody and musty nose. A bit of bready malt also comes through. It still has a bit of that signature Drie Fonteinen earthyness to it though.

M: Mildly tart, smooth-even carbonation, light to medium bodied.

O: The weakest of the Armand’4 series -- but that shouldn’t be taken as too much of a knock.

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Photo of AleWatcher
3.22/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dudeabide shared this with us at an awesome tasting.

Little hazy toasted golden color with a light tan head. Good spotty lacin left behind.

Smells of tangerine peels and toasted malt. Aaaand some sulfer notes.
The flavor is sweeter than the others in the series... More malty. Some chalky mineral water vibe reminds me of candy.

This is no where near as sour as the others and it actually finishes kinda sweet. Rather full-bodied.

Overall-- on a random Tuesday night this would score higher, by compared to Lente and Zomer (which were opened side by side).

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.56/5  rDev -41%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle graciously shared by dudeabide (thanks Nate!). Sampled side by side with the Lente and the Zomer. The winter suffered a bit by comparison, I'm sorry to say. I suspect this was just a bad bottle, but then again it costs a lot so it deserves whatever rating it gets.

Pours darker than its brethren, a light-medium copper with a solid several fingers of foam. It has a very OFF aroma at first, difficult to appreciate. Infection? Whatever, the aroma improves after 10 minutes of air time (while I focused on the Zomer).

Eventually drinkable, still some sweet malt flavors that don't feel right in a gueuze. Not quite sour, and while its funky its in a way I don't appreciate. Sort of some sweet tarts in the flavor. Hurts to say it, a very lackluster 3F offering.

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Photo of Urbancaver
3.51/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Opened at normyk's

Gusher... Way over carbonated.
Pours a slightly hazy pale orange. Nice white head. But overall nothing special.
Smells off... Raisiny... Sulphur. Weird... What's going on? Smells worse than zoomed and Lente by far
Tastes pretty solid but more malty than I'd like. over carbonated as well
Overall good... But not as good as the other 3

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Photo of stakem
4.5/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I contributed this bottle at a recent geuze tasting so all 4 of the seasons could be sampled back to back. Thanks to FooFaa for hosting and providing the rest of the "set."

Poured into a stemmed tasting glass, the brew appears a hazed copper with a finger of off-white head. As the cap fades, it leaves some patchy lace. A light swirl revives a finger of froth that retains quite well.

The smell of this brew is oaky with hints of must and cork akin to their other offerings. There is a grain inclusion that is straw-like, lightly reminiscent of barnyard hay/funk. As it warms up, some stinky cheese notes come out as well as a bit of sulfur.

The taste is mutually oaky as the aroma leads on. There is a hint of must and moist almost mildew like barrel inclusion. There is a bit of hoppy bitterness present that I didn't detect in the other blends, not bad by any stretch, just a little unique. The aftertaste includes some straw-like grain inclusion just like the aroma hints towards.

This is a medium bodied brew with lots of carbonation however the feel is spot on and I wouldn't change a thing about it. This brew is a bit sharp around the edges from the tartness but with seemingly no alcohol inclusion. This is another winner in the Armand series.

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Photo of womencantsail
4.1/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks again, Richard!

Pours a cloudy orange color with a tall white head. Smells quite similar to many of the Drie Fonteinen gueuzes. It's fairly funky with a nice grass and earthy aroma. There is a bit of tartness of lemon and green apple, too. The flavor is a bit sweeter than I expected. But other than that, it's a typically good and drinkable gueuze from Armand. Nice tartness and funk all around. Medium bodied with high carbonation.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.5/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to whoever shared this -I am guessing stakem. enjoyed chilled in a cervoise.

The color is medium amber with a light haze and thick 2 finger cream with tight bead, lace clings in a thick film. The smell is hay-like with wheat presence and spritely funk with it's jazzy light citric quality and mild toast with a lot of herbal hop presence and notes of lemon rind. The feel has a lot of citrus too with mild acedtic tinge and bitter element which i assume is hop derived with a mild drying astringency as it finishes.

The taste is aggressive and full of juicy sourness with a semi-dry malt w/ cracker like flavor and slightly spicy quality with a light grassy element. The complexity is there with a mild woody, peppery taste and bitter tinges in the background. The light lemony flavor is a nice augmenting element and returns in the finish with a nice subtle acidic taste. This is a bigger gueuze than most but has plenty to offer, one of the best of the seasonal series and was very drinkable from first sip to last, lots of aggressive flavors Thanks again Adam for sharing!

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Photo of JAXSON
4.55/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a bright peach orange, very lightly hazed, with an ever rising white head. As with the other Armand'4 bottles, the nose is super juicy, bright, citric, hay, grass. Mouth is quite sour and super dry up front, more dry than I remember Lente or Zomer. Signature wet pavement and mineral in that dry part of the palate. Oak and brett swell up on the back palate, along with a distinct lime juice on the finish. Interesting, way more mineral and citrus forward than the others I've had of this series. Carbonation is very sharp, feel is not unlike a very dry champagne.

When I open a special bottle like this recently I tend to drink it alongside a more commonplace beer in the same style. I opened a 2010 Girardin Black Label tonight to drink next to the Winter. The Girardin is an older blend which is evident, the feel is much softer. Main difference on the flavor profile is the back palate on the Winter really swelling up with tons of citrus, where the Girardin is softer and more balanced throughout. The Armand'4 Winter is an aggressive blend, complex, bright, I love the feel of it. Trying to be completely objective, the Winter beats this batch of Girardin easily, mostly in being so pronounced and complex in everything in does, as opposed to balanced and soft.

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Photo of hooliganlife
4.58/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pour was a hazy golden orange, lovely white head, and bright colorful body.

very bright and colorful lemon and oak. vivid cheesy funk. i really tried hard to pick out what armand was going for here in his attempt to depict winter. the bright sharpness reminded me of old winter air.

flavor was very similar, very bright and vivid with sharp tart and our lemon. very dry oak and old musty malt to balance it all out.

mild to moderate carbonation and very dry and "cold".

only had about 2-3 ounces so i have a hard time really rating this against the others. i would have to say i still rate lente and herfst the best, this is about on level with zomer. still, simply amazing.

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Photo of bashiba
4.64/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a nice hazy golden orange with a thick and rocky white head.

Great nose, big and balsamic with a nice oaky head.

The flavor has a big bready and tart flavor up front. Very woody and oaky with a very clean herbal finish.

The mouthfeel is very long and dry.

Very nicely drinkable, great gueze.

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Photo of alcstradamus
4.32/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gushed a bit even when refrigerator cold. Be careful if you open it warmer.

The aroma on this one is hugely dusty and barnyardy. Acetic with some bright cheesy notes. Great.

The flavor is possibly the most oaky and tannic of the series. Very dusty with some orange peel and sunflower seed. Cheese rind and very sour front end.

Carbonation is extremely high, possibly too much but not uncommon for a gueuze.

Overall this feels like the weakest of the series, but it is still a high quality geuze which makes it a world class beverage.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.92/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Served side by side with the other three Armand'4 variants on is New Year's Eve. Served in a Drie Fonteinen tumbler.

Pours a light copper color with a huge white head and loads of lacing. The nose brings a fairly heavy funk with strong earth. Almost an "imperial" version of the standard 3F geuze. Some acidity in the background. Flavor is intense as well. Really hits the funk notes. Perhaps the first of the bunch. Acidity is low. Light body and heavy carbonation. Über solid. Love this series. Thank you, Armand. Boom.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.53/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen gueuze tumbler from the bottle on Christmas eve 2011, this is how I celebrate.

Beer is a little bit of a gusher, so beware. Beer is orangish, amber, hazy with a huge meringue head, lots of staying power, lots of lacing, high retention, stiff peaks in the head, at first the glass consisted mostly of head with little liquid but the liquid emerged slowly, revealing the high carbonated, aggressive looking beer, very awesome.

Aroma is strong, lemon, grass, lots of oak in this one, a little sulfur on the back end, the lactic seems subdued and the acetic is nearly absent, the level of "funk" / musty / mildew in this beer is higher than the other four, smells great.

The carbonic acid burns a little, as the aggressive carbonation runs over your palate, finishing quite dry with this strong basement woodiness on the end. By far the most oak in any of them so far. The forward of the beer is very earthy, a mild sulfur / rubber flavor jumps out at me early on and the finish is really nice. Overall, another huge winner in this series. One of my favorites of the group for sure. I think Zomer was the winner though. I love them all.

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Photo of Verecund
4.22/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

December 20, 2011. Couldn't quite wait until Winter Solstice.

A slow pour yields a clear, pumpkin-bodied beer with a massive four to five finger, rocky head. Thick, patchy lacing, but somewhat overcarbonated at first glance.

Strong leathery, musty, and wet hay/pine funk nose. Lightly nutty, with tangerine, grapefruit, and citrus acidity peeking through. (As it warms, the acidity brightens on the nose.) A whiff of old wood on the finish. Satisfyingly old and barny, but still cleanly fruity.

Sour white flesh fruits and lemon with a lingering dry and dusty flavor profile, especially on the mid and late palate. Lots of woodiness and leathery (young) funk. The fruit notes are hidden to some extent beneath the rest of the flavor profile. Tasty, but a little abrupt/short on the mid palate, with only a hint of that leaves-you-wanting-more pucker.

Just under medium bodied with medium carbonation. Fairly dry finish, offset just slightly with a briefly lingering bitterness (and acidity).

As with the other iterations of Armand'4, this is tasty and delightful. It strikes me as older/dustier than its siblings, but it still tastes young. I'm not sure it's as immediately successful to my palate as Lente or Zomer, but I'll update the review after trying the four seasons alongside each other.

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen
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