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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter | Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze WinterArmand'4 Oude Geuze Winter

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

Style: Gueuze

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 66 | Ratings: 259
Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.31/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle pour sampled at mrbubbler's tasting.

Pours a murky orange with a beige head that fades to nothing. No lacing on this one. Smell is sour/tart with funk and some citrus-like aromas. Taste is the same with a nice tart finish. This beer has a very high level of carbonation with a super crisp and prickly mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good gueuze but I think the amount of carbonation on this one is a bit too high.

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Photo of largadeer
4.16/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared by nick3. Thanks a ton, Nick.

Clear, bright amber body with a tall frothy head that shows great retention and lacing. Malty, grainy nose with honey, stonefruit, restrained acidity at this point. Smells completely different than the other Armand'4 beers, decidedly more malty and somewhat sweet. The palate has a big grain and barrel tannin character, very biting and pleasantly astringent. Flavors of tart green apple, grapefruit, pale malt, bitter herbs. Sourness is present but mild, though it should intensify with age. Body is pretty big for gueuze, and the finish has a surprising bitter kick along with lemon rind-like tannins. Good stuff, very different than the other beers in this series, perhaps less good but still thoroughly enjoyable.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.92/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Served side by side with the other three Armand'4 variants on is New Year's Eve. Served in a Drie Fonteinen tumbler.

Pours a light copper color with a huge white head and loads of lacing. The nose brings a fairly heavy funk with strong earth. Almost an "imperial" version of the standard 3F geuze. Some acidity in the background. Flavor is intense as well. Really hits the funk notes. Perhaps the first of the bunch. Acidity is low. Light body and heavy carbonation. Über solid. Love this series. Thank you, Armand. Boom.

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Photo of oline73
4.25/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Sour and Bitter. Poured into my stemless wine glass.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy amber with a golden hue. There is a finger of off white head that sticks around pretty well.

Smell: Somewhat sweet right off the bat. There is a lemon juice tartness along with a mild funk to back it up.

Taste: More funk/mineral notes than I found in the smell. Some lemon juice notes as well. Light and quite tart with some hops showing up in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a finish that is a tad dry.

Overall: This beer had a lot going on and was very good. Tart and refreshing, I am glad I have a bottle of my own to open in the future.

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Photo of jlindros
3.85/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to either rudzud or Duffy for this one.

Pours a creamy head with hazy golden orange color.

Nose has some funk, tart malts and fruit, lighter, light tart weird musty slight sulfury funk.

Taste is fairly sour, light funk and tart like fruits, bready yeast, juicy but syrupy fruit, little think but decent funk. Hint of hay and lemongrass. Finish is dry bready funk, long fairly bitter earthy tart funk with a light rubbery-ish thing in it.

body is thinner with good carb.

Overall eh, some funky off flavors and aromas I think, but still got some decent funk and tart fruits, so probably not Armand's best.

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Photo of mothman
4.49/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Lots of fizzy white head that fades leaving lace. Darker than herfst. Dark golden orange.

This one definitely is winter. It is maltier and has a nice caramel flavor. Has a floral and herbal flavor with a nice amount of funk. Not as sour as the other ones. Reminds me of a faro.

Light bodied. Nice carbonation and feel.

Great beer. Definitely different than the others. Unique and delicious.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.5/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to whoever shared this -I am guessing stakem. enjoyed chilled in a cervoise.

The color is medium amber with a light haze and thick 2 finger cream with tight bead, lace clings in a thick film. The smell is hay-like with wheat presence and spritely funk with it's jazzy light citric quality and mild toast with a lot of herbal hop presence and notes of lemon rind. The feel has a lot of citrus too with mild acedtic tinge and bitter element which i assume is hop derived with a mild drying astringency as it finishes.

The taste is aggressive and full of juicy sourness with a semi-dry malt w/ cracker like flavor and slightly spicy quality with a light grassy element. The complexity is there with a mild woody, peppery taste and bitter tinges in the background. The light lemony flavor is a nice augmenting element and returns in the finish with a nice subtle acidic taste. This is a bigger gueuze than most but has plenty to offer, one of the best of the seasonal series and was very drinkable from first sip to last, lots of aggressive flavors Thanks again Adam for sharing!

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Photo of womencantsail
4.1/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks again, Richard!

Pours a cloudy orange color with a tall white head. Smells quite similar to many of the Drie Fonteinen gueuzes. It's fairly funky with a nice grass and earthy aroma. There is a bit of tartness of lemon and green apple, too. The flavor is a bit sweeter than I expected. But other than that, it's a typically good and drinkable gueuze from Armand. Nice tartness and funk all around. Medium bodied with high carbonation.

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Photo of orangesol
4.17/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to stakem for bringing this one to our recent gueuze tasting, providing the last of the four to complete the series.

A - Pours golden amber orange with a creamy one finger tall white head leaving sticky trails of lace down the glass.

S - Smells of lemons, apples, wet hay, light barnyard funk, minerals and a surprising amount of oak. A bit more funk, less sourness, than I was expecting. Very nice nose.

T - Starts off with a bit of acidic fruit - mostly lemons - quickly giving way to hints of dry oak, wet earth, hay and some musty basement funk. The funk is pretty strong, not as sour as I was expecting it to be, leaving the pallet dry after the finish.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Smooth, tart feel with quite a bit of dry oak tannin in the finish, the most of any of the beers in the series. All things considered, a very nice feel.

O - My least favorite of the series yet still an enjoyable gueuze. I think this one is a little rough around the edges at this point in time. I hope to try this one again in the future.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.57/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Sour Tasting. All 4 Armand'4 series beers were sampled side by side.

a - Pours a murky dark golden color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks like the rest of them.

s - Smells of sour fruits, light funk, citrus, earthy notes, acidic.

t - Tastes of sour fruits, earthy notes, floral, notes, yeast, light funk, light space.

m - Medium body and moderate to high carbonation. Very easy to drink, like the rest of them.

o - Overall another fantastic gueuze in the Armand'4 series. I would rank them Lente, Zomer, Winter, than Herfst personally, but they are all winners.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
4.5/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Opened this up tonight because...well, it seemed like it needed opening.

The beer is golden orange with a thick, white head. The aroma offers classic 3F funk with some dank basement, barnyard, citrus, and classic gueze scents. The flavor is citrusy, sour, funky. Lasting sour funk on the palate. Another winner from Armand. Although this perhaps my least favorite of the series, it is nonetheless a phenomenal beer. Highly recommended.

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Photo of stakem
4.5/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I contributed this bottle at a recent geuze tasting so all 4 of the seasons could be sampled back to back. Thanks to FooFaa for hosting and providing the rest of the "set."

Poured into a stemmed tasting glass, the brew appears a hazed copper with a finger of off-white head. As the cap fades, it leaves some patchy lace. A light swirl revives a finger of froth that retains quite well.

The smell of this brew is oaky with hints of must and cork akin to their other offerings. There is a grain inclusion that is straw-like, lightly reminiscent of barnyard hay/funk. As it warms up, some stinky cheese notes come out as well as a bit of sulfur.

The taste is mutually oaky as the aroma leads on. There is a hint of must and moist almost mildew like barrel inclusion. There is a bit of hoppy bitterness present that I didn't detect in the other blends, not bad by any stretch, just a little unique. The aftertaste includes some straw-like grain inclusion just like the aroma hints towards.

This is a medium bodied brew with lots of carbonation however the feel is spot on and I wouldn't change a thing about it. This brew is a bit sharp around the edges from the tartness but with seemingly no alcohol inclusion. This is another winner in the Armand series.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
4/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 4/22/2010. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Big head, orange body. Hazy. A little bit of lacing and brief retention.

Smell - Mild citrus. Acidic lemon and a medium funk. Less intense than the others.

Taste - Really tart. Similar to Zomer in it's acidity. A little vinegar. This one has the herbal notes again, but less so than the Zomer. Puckering finish.

Mouthfeel - Not as dry, but still quite sour. Less complex. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Still a good gueuze, but the least impressive of the four. Feels like the flavors could go wrong at any moment, but it stays the course.

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Photo of MasterSki
4.32/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared with Jason & Olga to celebrate Bella Canto's victory in the $500 GTT Burlesque 'Thing'. Served in plastic cups - how droll.

A - The cork rockets out, and foam quickly starts oozing out. Voluminous white foam settles to a thick cap, leaving behind splotchy lace. Murky dark amber body that is surprisingly tenebrous for a gueuze.

S - Very earthy, with hefty doses of musty basement, earthen floors, mushrooms, and old oak barrels. There's more malt character here than is found in the other Armand'4 offerings, with some light sugar mixed in with the expected under-ripe peach and apricot flavors.

T - Taste has significantly more lemon sourness than the aroma suggest, and it fills out the flavor profile a bit more. Again, quite mellow and earthy, with light oak, stone fruits, and lightly sugary malt sweetness.

M - Medium body, with pleasant carbonation. Super dry, with a hefty dose of tannic oak. The added heft supports the increased malt presence.

D - When I read the reviews I was worried this was going to be like the disgustingly sweet Oude Gueuze Vintage '06. Thankfully this was more like an 'imperial' Lente, with the same mellow and earthy flavors but even more malt presence. It's pretty amazing that Armand got such unique beers out of simply tweaking the blend ratios. That being said, I found this to be my least favorite of the series by a very small margin.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.53/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen gueuze tumbler from the bottle on Christmas eve 2011, this is how I celebrate.

Beer is a little bit of a gusher, so beware. Beer is orangish, amber, hazy with a huge meringue head, lots of staying power, lots of lacing, high retention, stiff peaks in the head, at first the glass consisted mostly of head with little liquid but the liquid emerged slowly, revealing the high carbonated, aggressive looking beer, very awesome.

Aroma is strong, lemon, grass, lots of oak in this one, a little sulfur on the back end, the lactic seems subdued and the acetic is nearly absent, the level of "funk" / musty / mildew in this beer is higher than the other four, smells great.

The carbonic acid burns a little, as the aggressive carbonation runs over your palate, finishing quite dry with this strong basement woodiness on the end. By far the most oak in any of them so far. The forward of the beer is very earthy, a mild sulfur / rubber flavor jumps out at me early on and the finish is really nice. Overall, another huge winner in this series. One of my favorites of the group for sure. I think Zomer was the winner though. I love them all.

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Photo of rudzud
3.66/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Shared with JLindros and company at the last whale tasting. Reviewed from notes

A - Poured into my Kate the Great tulip a hazy orange hue with a one finger head that leaves some nice light lacing.

S - Deep forest here, earth, but then... light rubber and leather. Really not a fan of the rubber tree thing going on here.

T - Taste is same as the nose. Nice lightly sour and faint funk. Some hay and then it finishes with burnt rubber tones. Really disrupts whats going on with this beer.

M - Mouthfeel is good. Lightly tart though on the thinner side.

O - Overall, not a bad beer, but not sure if its age or handling or what but that burnt rubber really kills this. Doesnt taste like one of Armand's best.

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Photo of Stevedore
4.46/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle from the Armand'4 set; generously contributed by Doug. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 12/8/2013.

Review #323.

Pours a hazy light brown-orange body, very effervescent with large volumes of fluffy white head that retains quite well. Not much lacing is left on these, and this beer eventually lost carbonation over the course of a half hour becoming a quite placid beer.

Smells phenomenal. Of the 3 non-Lente Seasons we had, this smelled by far the most intense and most peppery. It makes my brain yell freshly ground peppercorns, along with a nice tannic oak and a decent bit of funk. Very complex and intense, easily the best of the night. It holds the nose very well, even after the rest of the beer goes downhill as it warms up.

This was crisp, refreshing but not particularly complex. It's especially peppery and it does start out quite funky, earthy and tannic, but as the beer warms up, it simply loses whatever oomph it had. I see why this is the lowest rated of all the 4, but I maintain it is better than 99% of the geuzes out there.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, great carbonation at first. But, as it warms up, it simply loses all the carbonation and becomes flat. I've never had a geuze do that to me before, but that's what happened to it. Still, at first it's very crisp, dry and refreshing with a nice end-palate of peppercorn and earthy funk.

Even though we can all agree this is the least of the Seasons, this is still a fantastic geuze that is worth trying at least once. At the very least, it presents a different kind of flavour and nose than the others.

Re-review: Drank alongside the other 3 Seasons on 3/30/2015. Served in a 3F stemmed glass. It still smells fantastic and rivals Lente and Zomer in terms of the nose. Quite a bit of flavour, even if a bit subtle. However, as it warms up, the flavour profile falls off quite a bit. Not disappointing at all nevertheless. Still drinking well but I don't anticipate it getting better with age.

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Photo of sweemzander
4.78/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip glass. Bottled in 2010
(A) - Pours a lovely golden straw yellow color with a nice fluffy white head with surprising retention.
(S)- Some awesome straw and barnyard funk meets lemon peel and a light slightly cheesy lactic acid component. Very earthy and welcoming.
(T)- Deep citrus of lemon peel with a soft acidity and plenty of straw-like funk sets the stage for a surprisingly soft body that balances the funk and sourness quite well
(M)- A superb carbonation level. The soft acidity in conjunction with a balanced yet complex funky profile really makes this one and easy drinker. Slightly sharp, but never overpowering.
(O)- First time having this one and it is superb. Each and every one of these seasonal geuzes are dynamic, complex, yet perfectly balanced. Should have bought more

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.11/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle at our Drie Fonteinen tasting last night

Orange, mildly hazy with a dense white head with excellent retention and gorgeous lacing, this looks perfect, as did the rest of the Armand' 4 lineup. The nose is minty and spicy with a little alcohol, candied oranges and lemons. Nice musty and earthy funk, there's a nice balance of brightness is must.

The palate opens sour and sharp, mildly metallic and sharp with a touch of solvent. A little musty, this is not very fruity but has a pleasant lactic sourness. Drying and sour on the finish, this is mildly sweet. Nice stuff.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.29/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle opened on 8.20.13

A - Pours a murky, very light brown with a huge cream-colored head that never fades.

S - Very, very funky, lots of woody, slightly citrus, and tons of horseblanket funk.

T - Funky, wood-very earthy and dirty.

D - Dry, Good carbonation with a light body.

O - Very funky and dry, but not overly complex. Still stellar, but not as good as the other seasons in my opinion.

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Photo of cbutova
4.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Eternal gratitude goes out to my cousin Sonny for sharing this set at Ebenezer's 2016. Just stunning generosity.

A- Deep coppery orange body from the grand corked bottle into my tasting glass. Atop the 4oz pour rises a foamy white head which retains fairly well after reaching about an inch high. Spotty lacing.

S- Bright and pungent funktafied lambic explosion out of the glass. Probably my personal favorite aroma from the four of the set and with this being last, woah. Intensely musty but at the same time fresh sour stone fruits, lemons, lactic acid, sour wine grapes, apple and funky old horse barn. Not very cheesy this time; a cleaner and balanced blend. Raspberry even comes to mind.

T- Pure, unadultered lambic genius in this bottle. The blend brings out the best of both the young and the old as intense lactic acid bacteria and funky yeast marry each other happily. Here comes a big list: lemons, old laidback oak, slight vinous tannins, a touch of wood, underripe apricots, crusty grains, horsey barn, musty old basement, sour wine grapes, apple skin, general citrus zest and a tiny bit of vinegar.

MF- A light to medium overall body with a foamy and somewhat frothy texture. The slickness is apparent and plays off the very, very sour finish. Crisp and suitable for the complex, aged lambic flavors.

My favorite of the four Armands and the last of the set. Old and new lambic come together and are blended to near perfection. Just amazing. In retrospect I am glad I did the series blind and without any knowledge of the general scores before getting into it. The least favorite by the consensus ended up being perhaps my favor Gueuze I have ever had. To each their own. This series of lambic is seriously other-worldly.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.56/5  rDev -41.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle graciously shared by dudeabide (thanks Nate!). Sampled side by side with the Lente and the Zomer. The winter suffered a bit by comparison, I'm sorry to say. I suspect this was just a bad bottle, but then again it costs a lot so it deserves whatever rating it gets.

Pours darker than its brethren, a light-medium copper with a solid several fingers of foam. It has a very OFF aroma at first, difficult to appreciate. Infection? Whatever, the aroma improves after 10 minutes of air time (while I focused on the Zomer).

Eventually drinkable, still some sweet malt flavors that don't feel right in a gueuze. Not quite sour, and while its funky its in a way I don't appreciate. Sort of some sweet tarts in the flavor. Hurts to say it, a very lackluster 3F offering.

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Photo of ArrogantB
4.3/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was my second favorite of the Armand '4 series just behind Lente. Standard gueuze appearance, maybe a little orange. Smells like citrus rind, acid, old gueuze. Flavor is delicious old gueuze with note of honey and then followed by an acidic kick. Quite the top notch gueuze and these Armand '4 blends are a tastier selection than the standard gueuzes from 3F which are already superb.

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Photo of cpetrone84
4.58/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pour is dark golden orange with tons of bubbly white head. The nose has some dustiness to it then some of the others with a nice cheese rind and juicy peach and apricot. The taste is juicier than the nose an lighter in the brett and cheese department. Some dry dusty Brett sets in mid to back palate with the juicy apricots behind. The body is a touch syrupy with a nice carbonation and light body. Interesting fruit component, strongest of the three (had next to zomer and lente).

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Photo of warnerry
4.33/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle served by Armand's wife at the 3F lambikOdroom and shared during a great day of tasting with new friend BA woosterbill and others.

A - Pours clear golden deep brown with three fingers of off-white head. Head has great retention and leaves bits of lacing.

S - Heavy funk with faint citrus notes. Slight aroma of feet and nice musty cheese. Faint earthy/bitter aromas round things out.

T - Has bitter notes very reminiscent of chewing a 1000 mg vitamin C tablet. Taste is mildly acidic but mostly earthy and funky. Lots of grapefruit rind in the finish and some lemon midway through.

M - Medium light crisp mouthfeel has a lingering earthiness and slight bitterness.

O - Not the most acidic geuze, definitely more focused on earthy funk. Still, very enjoyable all around.

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