VanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour Ale | Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste

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VanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour AleVanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste
Belgium
bockor.be

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Label also displays .VanderGhinste Oud Bruin'.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 12-08-2000

BEER STATS
Ratings:
863
Reviews:
244
Avg:
4.06
pDev:
10.84%
 
 
Wants:
58
Gots:
122
For Trade:
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Photo of Sammy
3.89/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -13.8%

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4/5  rDev -1.5%

Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev -1.5%

Photo of GRG1313
4.35/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is not a perfect beer - it has flaws...and I really like it!

Purchased same date as review. Note: Great label.

Pours Extremely dark copper black color with a thick and firm tan head.

Nose is acidic plums and apricots.

Mouthfeel is acidic rich and a bit creamy with light carbonation and good fresh acid. Really well balanced.

Flavor profile will cause the controversy. Flavors are sweet plummy grape with a nice citric acid character. Flavors appear initially to be simple and sweet and almost soda like. However, there are some complexities and layers and the flavors and general character of this beer is so bright and appealing that you can't help drinking more.

I have to admit that there is some simplicity to this one - however, a bit of age may refine the sweetness. Simple acidic purple grape finish. At the end of the day, and while this beer is really not all that perfect and is a bit "grape simple,"....I really like it and just want to drink it!

Final word? It tastes good.

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Photo of jaydoc
3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.92/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a slightly murky dark crimson brown with a 1 inch foamy tan head that settles to an oily film on top of the beer. Foamy streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of tart and sour cherries, slight vinegar, and slight funk. There is a slight grape aroma that comes out as the beer warms. Taste is of the cherries up front with some slight vinegar flavors, but the taste is only mildly tart and funky. There is a grape-like aftertaste on this one. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with a nice fruity presence in the aroma and flavor.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.99/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a very cool version of the style here, not as sour as many of them. its a blend of a flemish red ale and a young lambic, giving this beer a rounded flavor and tartness, without the caustic acidity of other oud bruin types. more brown than red on the pour, hazy and dense, with a deep mahogany glow and less than an inch of cream colored foam. the nose is fruity as they come, tart cherries and maybe even raisins give an orchard sort of sweetness to this, and chocolate and dark amber malts unite in a rich lathery body with a bit of sweetness as well as a lactic tartness from the lambic. the wheat malt there doesnt add much, but the mild acidity is a nice contrast to the red fruit finish. complex and drinkable, more so than a lot of these. well carbonated, but i notice the lushness of the feel before the bubbles. its expanding on the palate and creamy too, down easy. a very impressive offering, especially at around 5 bucks a bottle.

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4/5  rDev -1.5%

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4/5  rDev -1.5%

Photo of Knapp85
3.85/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a deep brownish red color with a fluffy tan colored head on top. The head settles and leaves a a light amount of scattered lacing on the glass. The smell of the beer is tart and wooden smelling, there is also some cherry I'm picking up also. The taste is actually much better than I expected. It's a much more muted sour that some of the Flanders Reds out there. The mouthfeel was lightly carbonated and pretty smooth. Overall it was a pretty tasty brew even though I'm not a big fan of the style.

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3.5/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of nmann08
3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
4.25/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

Photo of metter98
3.95/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is slightly hazy light brown in color (with some amber highlights) and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin off white head that rapidly faded away, leaving some lacing on the surface and a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of sour fruits in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather tart and has sour flavors of cherries.
M: It feels light-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is quite easy to drink for the style because the sourness isn’t that strong.

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Photo of biboergosum
4.04/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

250ml bottle - an old brown ale, aged in wood barrels for an unspecified amount of time, if my French isn't totally shot.

This beer pours a clear, dark orange-brick brown colour, with one chubby finger of puffy, finely foamy, and yet somewhat fizzy tan head, which leaves a bit of crumbling Swiss cheese lace in spots around the glass as it quickly evaporates.

It smells of sweet, brown sugar coated red apples, white wine vinegar, caramel/toffee malt, a hint of wafting smokiness, subtle wet woody notes, and a muddled dark orchard fruitiness. The taste is mildly tart cherries, plums, and apples, balsamic vinegar, grainy caramel malt, some lightly vanillan oakiness, subtle yeasty notes, and a further candy-like sourness.

The bubbles are quite understated in their barely-there frothiness, the body a decent medium weight, and actually fairly smooth, just a very minor tartness tugging at my various palates. It finishes off-dry, the caramel malt sweetness and complex fruitiness playing us out with a certain calming, Old-World elan.

Overall, this is certainly a very well-made version of the style, perhaps not quite in Goudenband's rarefied air, but respectable in its own right. Not all that sour by today's retarded standards, but just enough so to perk up one's tastebuds, and round out the otherwise sweet nature of this offering.

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3.54/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 fl oz brown glass bottle (batch code 02) with standard pressure cap served into an EKU 28 snifter in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Bottle acquired at Wally's Wine in Westwood, California yesterday. Reviewed live. Expectations are high as I really enjoyed the Jacobins Rouge from this brewery.

Served slightly warmer than refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger head of okay thickness, very light cream, and bad retention. Colour is a nontransparent very dark amber. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Sour cherries, wild yeast, and bacteria. Lively and appealing. A moderately strong aroma.

T: Sour cherry, wild yeast, and bacteria. The sourness is pretty tame, with some fruity tartness on the back end. Clean malted barley comprises the foundation. All around it's a bit simple for the style, but features notable subtlety. Enjoyable and pleasant to drink. Some layering. Well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth and wet, suiting the flavours generally. Adequate carbonation. Moderately light on the palate. It has presence. No real cream. The thickness is adequate but not ideal. Thins towards the finish.

Dr: A drinkable Oud Bruin that will please fans of the style but won't impress. I'd definitely have it again and it's quite enjoyable, but I wouldn't recommend it to friends. There are better beers in the style for around the same price and availability.

Low B

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Photo of emerge077
3.8/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bellegems label:

I was told this is a blend of 70% brown ale, 30% 18-month old lambic.

Pours placidly into a small ten ounce goblet, a quarter inch of light tan foam on top, a sparse swath of lacing sticks inside the glass. Rusty reddish tone, completely clear, no sediment in the bottle, leading me to believe it's filtered.

Softly sweet grape aroma, dry leather, some faint fruity acidity. Straightforward, pleasant but not especially complex.

Flavor is similarly fruity with sweet tart grapes leading the way, vaguely earthy sweet malts underneath. A slight medicinal Ricola or tangy cherry candy, brown sugar, grape soda. Medium bodied, slightly creamy with soft carbonation. Some distant resemblance to Jacobins Rouge but not nearly as sour or acidic, more like the "training wheels" version.

This was in the states a few years ago, then disappeared. Glad to see it's finally back, it's a good transition to the wilder side. Note: Imported by SBS Imports, Seattle,WA.

2013 VanderGhinste label:
Dark copper brown, ruby glint when held to the light. Aroma is minerally like well water, some light grape or cherry skins. Tangy tart grapes in the taste, some light cherry tartness. A little maltiness underneath, not much sweetness at all. Seems like a return to a more traditional recipe possibly. Renamed after the Bockor brewery founder.

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Photo of zeff80
4.16/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, best before 1/11/2014. Pours fairly crystal clear deep ruby red color with a 2 finger fairly dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty foamy lacing clings on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of sour cherry, raspberry, cranberry, raisin, red wine vinegar, funk, light clove, oak, herbal, caramel, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity yeast notes; with good strength. Taste of tart cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, oak, clove, light pepper, caramel, funk, herbal, and yeast earthiness. Light fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, clove, herbal, pepper, caramel, funk, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast ester flavors; with a moderate malt balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a smooth, crisp, and moderately prickly mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent Flanders brown ale. All around nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast esters with moderate oak presence; and very smooth and crisp to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

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3/5  rDev -26.1%

Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of nickfl
4.22/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours with a small head of off-white foam on top of a clear, amber colored body. The head settles rapidly and leaves almost no lace on the glass.

S - Dry caramel and fruity acidity with a smoky note in the background.

T - Sweet toffee and lemony tartness up front with a hint of cherry. More sweet cherry in the middle with a little bit of caramel. The sweet sour dynamic continues through the finish with lingering sweet toffee and mildly acidic black cherry.

M - Medium body, moderately high carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Very nice and drinkable with a sweeter than average character that would make it a good introduction to sour beers. It has the classic sweet and sour profile with little funk and a nicely balanced finish.

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