Vanderghinste Oud Bruin | Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste

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Vanderghinste Oud BruinVanderghinste Oud Bruin
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste
Belgium
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Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Label also displays .VanderGhinste Oud Bruin'.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 12-08-2000

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4.05
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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.21/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at The Belgian cafe

A - Nice dark reddish-brown body with very minimal cream head.

S - Smells of some fruit, malts, dark sugars. Smells great but not a potent aroma.

T - This beer is very flavorful. Its a nice combination of malthy bready goodness with some fruit sweetness, and some slightly sour vinegar bite. The dark fruit taste and dark sugar give it a mellow taste. This beer is a little tart and a little sweet and a little earthy. What a great taste.

M - Very smooth and slippery on the tongue. It went down very easily, as its smooth and perfectly carbonated.

D - This beer is highly drinkable. With the fresh ripe flavor and smooth body, it would be more than easy to make several of these dissappear.

Notes - I was a huge fan of this beer and I had ordered it by chamce, with no research prior. I was satisfied and I would order this again and again.

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Photo of oglmcdgl
2.71/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On tap at kraftworks.

A- comes to me with a good finger of light tan slightly creamy head that settles in a second to leave a thin cap of cream on top. Deep dark red brown in color. Like an old ruby.

S- mildly tart cherries, reminds me of my childhood and ludens cherry couch drops. Rather light nose. Doesn't remind me of a bruin.

T- cherry candy, it tart and sweet at the same time but doesn't taste natural. Very little else going on really. Light vinous hits here and there.

M- on the thinner side of body and a bit above medium in carb. The carb does bring a crisp brightness to what is a rather one dimensional brew.

D- decent beginner sour. As I said one dimensional and uninteresting. Tastes artificial the whole way. More of a red then a bruin really.

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Photo of GRG1313
4.35/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is not a perfect beer - it has flaws...and I really like it!

Purchased same date as review. Note: Great label.

Pours Extremely dark copper black color with a thick and firm tan head.

Nose is acidic plums and apricots.

Mouthfeel is acidic rich and a bit creamy with light carbonation and good fresh acid. Really well balanced.

Flavor profile will cause the controversy. Flavors are sweet plummy grape with a nice citric acid character. Flavors appear initially to be simple and sweet and almost soda like. However, there are some complexities and layers and the flavors and general character of this beer is so bright and appealing that you can't help drinking more.

I have to admit that there is some simplicity to this one - however, a bit of age may refine the sweetness. Simple acidic purple grape finish. At the end of the day, and while this beer is really not all that perfect and is a bit "grape simple,"....I really like it and just want to drink it!

Final word? It tastes good.

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Photo of StJamesGate
4/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours chestnut brown that goes an attractive cherry red in light with a tan film that's eager to cling and trail. Woody balsamic vinegar nose with some cherry pit and almond skin notes on the nose. Cranberry tartness with Irish soda loaf malts underneath, yellow apple in the middle, and a twist of lime zest on the finish. Soft, prickly, round, medium.

First try with this style, and surprisingly drinkable. Seems to juggle crisp, dry and tart for a cumulative effect rather than just being straight up sour. Impressive.

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Photo of silentjay
4.02/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

pours a reddish brown that is slightly cloudy but still translucent. a big eggshell colored head rises and quickly falls to one finger and settles at that for a while and leaves lacing that falls a bit below average.

a bit acidic and tart with some malts behind that. green apple, candi sugar, tart berries, lactic acid. not an overly strong aroma, but about what i would expect.

sweeter than i would think, with a dryness thats similar to the puckering of a sour beer, but not as extreme. green apple candies, candi sugar, green apple peel, grape skins, tart berries, a bit of toast before the pleasant acidity takes over on the aftertaste.

a bit odd bodied as it starts creamy, gets prickly, then puckers and dries the mouth.

drinks very well. a nice introduction. not over-the-top sour, but there is definitely some pleasing puckering going on.

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Photo of benfons
3.9/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Clear, dark caramel colour,small but dense head

S: Cherries, raspberry, rock candy, and a hint of mowed grass.

T: Slightly sour, bit of funk, a hint of cherries and earth, nothing bold

M/D: Good mouthfeel, carbonation is right, ABV is fine

Not bad, but nothing exceptional

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Photo of comfortablynumb1
3.59/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 11.2 fl. oz bottle into a Bellegems Bruin flute glass which was given to me when I purchased the beer...

The label on the bottle is kinda captivating. I features two older gentelmen from the early ninteen hundreds drinking a beer. Although this is a little before my time, it reminds me of an old Abbott and Costello act. "Who's on first?" "No, Who is on second." Kinda weird this label would provoke that thought...

Anyways, enough of my nonsence and on to the review...

A - Poures mohagony with a one finger off white head. Head does not stick around for very long; however,there is lots of lacing to be had here...

S - Grapes, and other various fruits, along with a good tartness...

T - Tastes alot more smooth than it smells. Grapes, and sweet brown sugar that is complimented by a tartness that is not as overtop as I would have excpected from the smell. Ends on a subtle green apple note...

M - Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation...

D - Glad I got a chance to try this one, but it is not something I would go out and seek. Not a top notch sour, but for the price, (Think I paid three dollars), it is a solid brew...

Cheers...

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Photo of gatornation
4.2/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a dark red brown mostly clear color with a smallish head some lacing and a beige collar..smell is funky ,sour,currant fruits..a dash of vinegar..taste is great is funky barnyard,,with sour fruit with just the right amount of vinegar..its tart with a kiss of sweetness...mouth fell is medium with tartness and sour notes,,nothing overpowers.. a great oud bruin at a super price on the 11.2 oz bottle ..will go back to my bottle shop to buy a couple more

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Photo of Halcyondays
4.67/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

11.2 oz. bottle, lucky to find a lone bottle in plain sight as it were at Hi-Times, great '30s style label,

A: Pours mahogany with a moderate white head, solid lace.

S: Nice dark fruit nose, not really sour smelling, molasses, inviting.

T: Delicious acidity, not overly sweet, just a hint of sugar with a great sweet-sour finish. Lots of dark fruit, fantastic.

M: Medium-bodied, moderate but easy acidity, beautiful structure, holds off the acid, but it still pervades throughout the whole drink.

D: A gem at $4 a bottle. Simply delicious, like the session beer version of an Oud Bruin, a great everyday drink, a must have from Belgium. Too easy to drink, refereshing to a T, simply an exceptionally well made beer. A classic acidic country ale.

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Photo of kbutler1
3.93/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Batch Code 01, no other date that I could find on the bottle. Poured into a tulip glass. Pours a clear dark reddish brown rust color with an offwhite head that settles to form a nice coaster, nice lace left as it settled. Aroma is a mix of grape, cherry, some metallic, and some swet malt aromas. Some sour/tart notes in the nose as well. Light mouthfeel with nice carbonation. Sweet fruit like start with hints of grape and cherry similiar to the nose. Underlying caramel flavor. Some sourness but nothing mouthpuckering. This to me ends semi flat and dry with no real flavors sticking out too much. Easy drinking.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.35/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap, from a fresh keg. Appearance, clear, dark garnet hue, deep eggplant with crimson edges, under slim, but lasting dotted beige head.

Aroma: grape, cherries, and blackberries hit the nose first, with caramel malt beneath. A rendezvous between sour and sweet, with sour taking over assuredly.

Taste: the sweet and sour tug of war begins immediately again on hitting the palate. Sour fruit commands the stage with malty brown ale flavors holding steady in the background, but plainly giving way to the dominant tart. Another sip, another wince and pucker, but the sweet factor and the comforting caramel malt backbone ease us away from any onslaught of tartitude.

Medium bodied, and long in the finish, with sweetness and sour aplenty, quenching and refreshing as the best of them.
I do love our bruins, and perhaps I prefer them to flanders reds, the jury's still out on that one. This one would make a fine every day drinking, with-food-drinking, all around enjoyable ale, with price being the only hindrance.

Glad to finally try it at last, after seeing it in my old, dusty Michael Jackson tomes of yore!

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Photo of jibbyvonjibb
4.33/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Dark brown with reddish tint. Clear.
S: funky, sour, fruity
T: tart yet balancing sweetness (both moderate). Berry fruitiness of cherries, raspberries, sour apple. Smooth clean finish.
M: high carbonation, dry finish
O: highly drinkable, well balanced (not too tart or sweet) with the dark fruity flavors that I love. The most satisfying sour ale I've had so far.

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Photo of tempest
3.93/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Had a chalice at the Blue Nile. Thanks to Al for bringing in the sours. I'd say this is on the more drinkable end o the spectrum for the style. Of course, it also lacks some of the deeper complexity of the style you might find in Goudenband, but is still a step ahead of Petrus Oud Bruin. There's a sweet, lightly fruity caramel and light cocoa malt flavor with tart candy bite at the finish. I was eating a plate of spicy beef sambussas and this beer went surprisingly well with the fat and spice.

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Photo of Duhast500
4.23/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the tap into a tasting glass.

The color is dark red with a foamy white head and some thin lacing.

The smell is tart at first. Some brett character is definitely there.

The taste seemed to have a nice funky jump in it. It popped with some barnyard type flavor. A tartness that had a bit of a spiky flavor with some fruits mixed into it, some slight cranberry, a little green apple, more in there to name them all.

The feel of this beer is pretty smooth. I hardly noticed it go down but it did have a nice aftertaste that made sure I remembered the experience.

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Photo of BucBasil
3.89/5  rDev -4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the 330mL bottle into a branded flute in Ypres/Ieper.

A: Pure brown that is clear even without being held to light. Head is 1.5 fingers with ok retention.

S: Slightly earthy and spicy with hints of dark fruit. Sweet. Brown sugar note. Nice.

T: Very sweet, slightly tangy. Slight geuze-like funk. Berries and raspberries. Fleeting sugary cherry note. Finishes slightly sour with cranberry notes. A bit sweet in the finish as well.

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Photo of DaveHS
4.5/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Excited to try this, being a big fan of Bockor's Flemish sour ale, which is only available on tap in CA.
Poured into a Monk's Cafe glass.

A-Cola brown with ruby highlights and a 1/4 inch of khaki colored head. Leaves minimal soapy lacing.

S-Very promising. Tart cherries, caramel malts, a mouth-watering, but not overpowering acidity.

T/M-A really well balanced beer. Tart up front, but that quickly fades off into light, sweet maltiness. A thin flavor of tart cherry carries through to the finish, but works harmoniously with the moderate, fizzy carbonation to create a lovely interplay of malty and tart flavors. There is a minor metallic note in the finish (the same type I get from Duchesse De Bourgogne) but it does little to distract from all the things this beer does right.

D-Solid. At only $4.99, this is worth drinking again.

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.8/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Another beer I got from Kurt. Thanks, man! Bockor has impressed me with their Flemish Reds, the Ommegang Rouge and the Cuvee de Jacobins, and I'm very interested in trying this low ABV Bruin.

Pouring dark brown with reddish highlights, this beer is capped with a very dense light brown head. Retention is good, the head recedes to a thick disk leaving nice lacework. The nose immediately opens up with a big blend of brown sugar, vanilla, a little vinegar and some cocoa. Almost a little cola in there too, I get a moderate fruit character with macerated plums and cherries and palm sugar. Good stuff.

The palate opens with a pleasant tartness that's a blend of lactic and acetic in nature. The tartness is moderately fruity as well with some dark cherries. Very clean, the complexity of the nose follows the opening flavors, with a blend of cola, oak-derived vanilla and dark brown sugar. Drying on the finish with some tannins, lactic sourness and a little balsalmic vinegar, this beer also has characteristics of oxidized malt, with a little must. The cocoa I picked out on the nose isn't really noticeable. Not unlike some of the Flemish Oude Bruins I've had, this has a mildly meaty, salty, gamey character as well (I distinctly remember the Ichtegems Bruin having this characteristic), but it's very enjoyable unlike in some other cases. Medium in body with moderate carbonation, this beer has an enjoyable finish. A little dusty, I really like this. Still, though, Goudenband (and the regular Liefmans Oud Bruin) are superior for the style.

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Photo of philipquarles
3.2/5  rDev -21%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

25 cl bottle BBE 8/10. Pours clear, dark red-brown with a small pale beige head. A bit of lacing. Lactic sourness on the nose with some sour cherry. Woody. Acidity in the taste as well, but it's cut by a lot of sugary sweetness. A bit of dark roasty malt. Sweet finish. Not super complex. Medium body with high carbonation. Too sweet to be a decent sour.

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Photo of wl0307
3.5/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasting 6 months after the suggested expiry date (08/07/2008), served only very lightly-chilled in Rodenbach's slim goblet.

A: dark Burgundy-ruby in colour, with large bubbles in action but not fiercely, and a fast-dissipating off-white foamy head.
S: slightly pungent sour fruits with strong hints of salted-sour Chinese brown prunes, cherries and a little oily balsamic vinegar - refreshing and not too sweet, but the brown malt base lies firmly underneath. "Woodiness", due to the long ageing (18 months, according to the back label), is everywhere, but is also mixed intrinsically with the fruity main theme. Nice.
T: the taste is very quiet indeed - semi-tart, metallic and tannic-chewy, almost like cranberry juice-drink on the palate, followed by a unique savoury edge as of well-aged alcohol in wooden barrels and herbally, licorice-flavoured prunes. Fruitiness is pretty restrained, as opposed to the nose, while malts are pretty much absorbed into the main flavour, leaving a soothing, lingering undertone of fermented dark berries, smoked black prunes, and a chewy bitterness of hops in the semi-short finish.
M&D: not extremely refreshing as the carbonation is slightly artificial and yet also flat-ish (coz it's "expired" by 6 months??). I can't help thinking if the expiry issue really has something to do with the underperformance of this bottle, but, if not, I would have to say this thin-ish beer is at best a mediocre example of the classic style. I might have to try the tap version to change my mind, or find a bottle within the BB date.

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Photo of beckje01
4.3/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Nice dark red hue, great half inch of off white head and lots of great lacing.

S- Semi sweet and tart smell, very inviting and nice.

T- Just wonderful balance of tart and fruit. Some malt but I just can't but this one down.

M- Geed thickness and nice carbonation accents the flavor very well.

D- Very drinkable I just love this beer and I hope I can find it again out side of Belgium.

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Photo of dnichols
3.8/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I poured a 25o ml bottle into a chalice.

A: It poured a brown with back lit cherry hues and a small (almost not existant) tan head that had sporadic lacing that trailed long legs down the side of the glass.

S: It began with a strong sweet and sour aroma followed by toasted malts and a deep sour fruit smell.

T: This is a sweet and sour bomb. It kicks off with a malty fruity sweetness that is followed and dominated by the tart sour flavor of lemons, early cherries and green apples. It finishes surprisingly clean given the low ABV.

M: Pucker up it has a nice pleasant sour profile in a light to medium bodied brew. The sourness is not overwhelming and and the drink finishes clean.

D: Nice Flanders Bruin with decent complexity, smoothness and easy light ABV. Not my normal style but one that could grow on you. For not its a one and out drink that I work to appreciate as I expand my palate.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.07/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear chokecherry with orange-bronze edges. The two finger head of bubbly tan foam looks odd since it's at midglass instead of topglass (because of the 8 oz. bottle). It's a wonderful looking lid that sticks resolutely to the glass and falls in the center, giving a 'king's crown' appearance.

The nose is funky, sour and fruity, reminding me of fermenting cherries, cranberries and freshly tilled earth. I like it more and more the more I sniff. It's satisfying in the way that well-worn old books are satisfying. Words like venerable, time-tested and Old World come to mind.

The flavor isn't as impressive as the nose. Although the same basic components are in place, they're diminished in scope. It's still funky and modestly sour with a not quite ripe cherry and berry fruitiness. Unfortunately, the mouthfeel is too light to carry those flavors across the palate with the panache they deserve.

In accordance with the style, there's very little sweetness. The beer is politely sour and acidic, culminating in an impressive display of aridity. The finish is surgically clean with hints of surgical-grade steel. As noted, the body/mouthfeel is too light for the flavor profile. A more substantial mouth presence would kick this sucker into a higher gear.

Bellegems Bruin is my second Flanders oud bruin and I like it just fine. I see some room for improvement though. Given the basic elements of the style, I'm certain there's a version out there that will blow me away, I just need to find it. This wasn't it, but I still could have used a bigger bottle.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.8/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Teasing aromas of sweetly caramelish malt and a sour cherry-like fruitiness greet you in the nose of this beautiful oud bruin. As it crosses your lips and tongue you find it's quite smooth and lightly creamy with an exceptionally fine-bubbled natural carbonation and medium body. The flavor, however, is distracting with its beautiful juxtaposition of sour apple/mild citrus-like tartness and lightly sweet, caramelish, and toasty malt. Raisins and brown sugar appear along the way; and a thin spritz of lemon juice hits you at the finish, drying it nicely! It lingers in the mouth though, with a film of dry maltiness that makes you want to take another sip! Quite nice. And although it's not complex, the combination of the sourness and sweetness is interesting enough to keep you coming back for more! This is a superb rendition of the style that doesn't rely on added sweetness to overcome its sourness; and isn't too sour over all - just perfectly balanced!

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Photo of kennyo
3.19/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Rodenbach aroma, winey, fruity. thin body, long cherry finish. Dark brown/mahogony color, thin head throughout, weak taste. Beer was slightly oxidized. My friend got this in 03' from Michael Jackson Belgium beer club and the best before date was 12/21/02.

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Photo of Hex92
3.29/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I thought I had finished all of my bottles of this beer off a year ago. I seem to remember it tasting better than this. Foamy head that died quickly. Kind of a sour smell. Kind of tastes like a burgundy wine. Maybe this one has sat too long.The date on the bottle is 12/20/02 and today is 8/15/04. So its quite possible that this beer has not improved with age. I will have to pick up another bottle sometime and edit htis review if my impressions change.

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Vanderghinste Oud Bruin from Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste
4.05 out of 5 based on 848 ratings.
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