VanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour Ale | Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste

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VanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour AleVanderGhinste Oud Bruin Flanders Sour Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Bockor N.V. / Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste
Belgium
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Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Label also displays .VanderGhinste Oud Bruin'.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 12-08-2000

BEER STATS
Reviews:
243
Ratings:
855
Avg:
4.05
pDev:
10.86%
 
 
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Reviews: 243 | Ratings: 855
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.07/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear chokecherry with orange-bronze edges. The two finger head of bubbly tan foam looks odd since it's at midglass instead of topglass (because of the 8 oz. bottle). It's a wonderful looking lid that sticks resolutely to the glass and falls in the center, giving a 'king's crown' appearance.

The nose is funky, sour and fruity, reminding me of fermenting cherries, cranberries and freshly tilled earth. I like it more and more the more I sniff. It's satisfying in the way that well-worn old books are satisfying. Words like venerable, time-tested and Old World come to mind.

The flavor isn't as impressive as the nose. Although the same basic components are in place, they're diminished in scope. It's still funky and modestly sour with a not quite ripe cherry and berry fruitiness. Unfortunately, the mouthfeel is too light to carry those flavors across the palate with the panache they deserve.

In accordance with the style, there's very little sweetness. The beer is politely sour and acidic, culminating in an impressive display of aridity. The finish is surgically clean with hints of surgical-grade steel. As noted, the body/mouthfeel is too light for the flavor profile. A more substantial mouth presence would kick this sucker into a higher gear.

Bellegems Bruin is my second Flanders oud bruin and I like it just fine. I see some room for improvement though. Given the basic elements of the style, I'm certain there's a version out there that will blow me away, I just need to find it. This wasn't it, but I still could have used a bigger bottle.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.8/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Teasing aromas of sweetly caramelish malt and a sour cherry-like fruitiness greet you in the nose of this beautiful oud bruin. As it crosses your lips and tongue you find it's quite smooth and lightly creamy with an exceptionally fine-bubbled natural carbonation and medium body. The flavor, however, is distracting with its beautiful juxtaposition of sour apple/mild citrus-like tartness and lightly sweet, caramelish, and toasty malt. Raisins and brown sugar appear along the way; and a thin spritz of lemon juice hits you at the finish, drying it nicely! It lingers in the mouth though, with a film of dry maltiness that makes you want to take another sip! Quite nice. And although it's not complex, the combination of the sourness and sweetness is interesting enough to keep you coming back for more! This is a superb rendition of the style that doesn't rely on added sweetness to overcome its sourness; and isn't too sour over all - just perfectly balanced!

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Photo of kennyo
3.19/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Rodenbach aroma, winey, fruity. thin body, long cherry finish. Dark brown/mahogony color, thin head throughout, weak taste. Beer was slightly oxidized. My friend got this in 03' from Michael Jackson Belgium beer club and the best before date was 12/21/02.

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Photo of Hex92
3.29/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I thought I had finished all of my bottles of this beer off a year ago. I seem to remember it tasting better than this. Foamy head that died quickly. Kind of a sour smell. Kind of tastes like a burgundy wine. Maybe this one has sat too long.The date on the bottle is 12/20/02 and today is 8/15/04. So its quite possible that this beer has not improved with age. I will have to pick up another bottle sometime and edit htis review if my impressions change.

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Photo of ark57
4.18/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I love the way a good Flemish Ale looks. This is ruby brown in color, though it does not have much head. There is no hop aroma to speak. The aroma is not much, but you can tell that it is sweet and tart. It tastes fruity and winey and is acidic and sour with a slight bitter finish. There is plenty of carbonation I guess I just poured it bad.

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Photo of Elemental
3.45/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I will have to say that I wasn't very impressed with this beer. It poured nice and dark brown but had almost know head at all. Very little carbonation at all. It has a nice aroma that is malty and smells of plums. But the taste was extremely sweet. It had a big plum taste with very little bitterness at all. The big turn off was the residual sweetness which overpowered everything else. Overall I think that it may have not have finished fermenting, but otherwise was interesting.

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Photo of Stopper
4.62/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

This pours with a head of only a few large bubbles. The color is a deep orange brown. The aroma is beautifully sour, acidic, and vinous, with a touch of sweet chocolate. The mouthfeel is somewhat watery with very little effervescence. The flavor is initially puckering over hint of grain dryness, but the sourness quickly gives recedes enough to reveal complexly mild sweet red wine-like fruitiness with light touches of cherry. The finish remains a bit sour for a short time and there is none but the slightest hint of hop presence.

This brown has an absolutely exceptional aroma. Its complex fruity sourness is interesting and refreshing, and evolves nicely as it warms. It's refreshing, fruity, and complexly delicious, and I'll definitely be picking up more bottles of this.

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Photo of marc77
4.17/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Hazy deep garnet in hue. Lanky, yet persistent tan head yields sparse lace. Candied green apple upfront in aroma is complemented by slightly sour, oaky balsamic notes. Tartness dissapates rapidly as the brew breathes, and is replaced by a static, sweet raisin and caramel presence. Brusque snap of toffee like, dark candi sugar sweetness initially in flavor is quickly offset by a melange of stately acetic tartness, earthy tones of hay, and mellow yeast must. Fruitiness is of an underripe, slightly astringent plum like nature. Appropriately lightly bodied and thus conducive to quaffability, with a agreeable dextrinous kiss in mouthfeel. Notes of grape skin emerge late, thoroughly drying the palate, yet a smidgen of molasses like residual sweetness remains. Finishes softly bready, with a sourdough like lactic mirk. Quite an enjoyable, whimsical brew. Superbly refreshing and certainly quite a tease in its eight ounce portion. This is what Liefman's Oud Bruin failed to be. "Best before 12/20/2002"

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Photo of RoyalT
3.88/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Nice, semi-thick brown color with a decent head that laced well on the glass.

Smell – Initially, a whiff of Sweet-Tarts hits the nose. This is followed by a deeper malt flavor and strong sourness, again like candy.

Taste – The candy flavors kick in more on the tongue. The sourness comes in towards the end (true lemon, not the cheap kind), but the tart flavors are the highlight of this show. The malt is there but drowned out.

Mouthfeel – There’s some light carbonation to be had, but mostly this puckers the mouth and kicks the salivary glands into high gear.

Drinkability – This is great to drink on an empty stomach. The smallish bottle reflects the sipping nature of this brew. A nice example.

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Photo of RBorsato
4.5/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Deep dark reddish-brown (bright red to light) with a full light brown head, decent carbonation, and decent lace. Light sour aroma but primarily raisiny and light candy-like notes. Tart and fruity flavor with a very nice dark fruit character. Medium bodied with a light tart finish.

Very nice -- too bad the bottle is so small....

Per M.J. notes: Lambic brew (Jacobin's Gueuze) aged 18 mos. & a Belgian Ale (13 P, 1052 OG) hopped with 1 year old Northern Brewers aged 30 mos.

Best Before: 12/20/02
Tasted: 08/30/03

(8 oz. / 25 cl)

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Photo of ADR
3.57/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Date marked 12/20 (20/12) /02...very dark browm, chill hazes the glass, looks to be sedimented. Small head down to spider tracks in 40 seconds, laces in small spots. Black strap mollases aroma, backed by a farm fresh mustiness. Light and citric tart, the flavors come across to me as a cross between a Manhatten and soy sauce. Finsihes relatively dry for a beer this dark, could be a sense of black cherry and with some overbearing phenolics. I can't say this is a favorite, low carbonation to counter the tartness and a slightly unpleasant malt.

Source: Liquid Solutions

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Photo of beerinator
4.1/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Dark reddish brown. Creamy tan head. Beer has a nice ruby tint when held up to the light.

Aroma: Sweet candy smells. Whiffs of apple. Slight undertones of alcohol.

Taste: Strong raiseny sourness. Starts off kind of acidic and bitter, but finishes slightly sweet. Very little bitterness lingers in your mouth.

Notes: A good beer, if you like the style. The taster needs to have an awareness of the sourness of this style, or else weird faces will appear. It's hard to believe how refreshing something sour can actually be. Very appropriate for it's style.

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Photo of mzwolinski
4.33/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dark brown in color with a bit of sediment and a thin, light tan head. The aroma is appropriately sour, with some sugary malty notes undrelying and a bit of a nutty scent. The taste is tart but not overwhelmingly so. The tartness starts of gently, gives way to a malty sweetness, reasserts itself in a finish reminiscent of raisins and green apples and finally yields to a mildly sweet aftertaste. Medium-bodied, much lighter than it looks, with a gently dry finish. Very drinkable -- a good introduction to the world of sour beers.

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.35/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Comes in a small 8 fl.oz. bottle. The label is dark blue with a red border, and has a picture of two guys toasting each other with over-frothing beers. The guy with the straw boater hat looks particularly inebriated and very happy.

Pours a lovely ruby red-deep brown chestnut color with a nice off-white colored head, that rescinds quickly, to a thin covering.

Aromas are of a sour beer with a slightly nutty dark fruity smell.

Tastes are initially sour, sharp and very clean. The delicious sourness in this beer is very intentional, but it does make way for a malty, slightly sweet ending. Excellent inherent carbonation lends to a great mouthfeel, a great spritzy presense as the beer first hits the palette. Nicely balanced and very drinkable.

Was well received by fellow BA’s at a beer tasting that I had in my Apartment recently.

Once you start drinking this beer, if you are familiar with the style, I guarantee two things will happen;

1) You will grow to like this, and….
2) It Only comes in an 8 fl.oz. bottle !?! Very Annoying.

There are not too many accomplished Flemish Brown Ales knocking around these days. And this offering, whilst not the best, is a good example worth seeking out.

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Photo of fattyre
4.05/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a clear dark red/brown with a smallish off white head. It has a slightly malty somewhat citrusy smell that gives the perception of sweet and sour. The taste was of a sweet flowery front, diminishing sour mid with a dry slightly yogurty end and a slightly thin mouthfeel. Overall it was a very nice sweet and sour type beer which I really wish I could drink on a more regular basis.

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Photo of Bunnyhop
3.82/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours a clear, dark red-brown with a small to moderate off-white head. The smell is sweet, malty, and raisiny. At first I taste a sweetness and malt, followed by a yogurt like sourness, finishing with a pepperiness. Oddly, I also taste a hint of iron. In my mouth there is a slight thinness but overall it is firm and round feeling. There is something about this brew that makes you want more, and I do!

(source: Great Beers of Belgium)

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Photo of Gusler
3.95/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark garnet color with a pertinent head and the lace formed is a fine sheet to coat the glass. The aroma of fresh ripe plums, malt and somewhat musty, light nut sweetness also present a pleasure to sniff. Start is sweet and malt laden, the top is a bit thin, and the finish nicely carbonated and the hops apropos for the style. The aftertaste dry and somewhat sour, good drinkable beer and well worth the sample.

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Photo of Jason
4.05/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: Slender 8oz brown bottle with a freshness date stamped on the label.

Appearance: Hazy reddish brown with a thin whispy tan lace.

Smell: Mild yet even tartness, very vague aroma.

Taste: Smooth semi creamy mouth feel, a clash of carob and tartness. Lemon and grainy smith apples come to mind with a toasted bread flavour. Dark raisin fruitiness. Tartness is snappish with the grainy following, hops are nonexistent and should be that way for this style. Dark candy sugar and tart finish though gets dryer and dryer as a husky grain puckers the mouth.

Notes: A happy brew in my mouth, back and forth complexities of tartness and carob or dark malt. Pleasing to the palate and refreshed my mind.

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