Big Bad Baptist | Epic Brewing Company

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company
Utah, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
It’s Big, it’s Bad, Whiskey &/or Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout, with Coffee and Cocoa Nibs.

http://www.epicbrewing.com/the-beers/exponential-series/item/635-big-bad-baptist-imperial-stout

ABV varies by batch

Added by JohnGalt1 on 09-30-2011

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572
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3,485
Avg:
4.32
pDev:
8.8%
 
 
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Photo of busternuggz
3.8/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a snifter.

Opaque brown-tinged black with a 1/4" mocha head. Head recedes to a thin ring but comes back nicely with a swirl. Leaves some spotty lacing.

Initially the smell is dominated by a nice rich coffee bean scent. As it warms some bittersweet chocolate and whiskey barrel comes through. So pretty much just the adjuncts and barrel in the scent, still nice and rich even if it isn't too complex.

Rich coffee comes out first in the taste too, followed by whiskey barrel and a nice overbaked chocolate chip cookie note. It then fades nicely into some roasted/charred malt, milk chocolate, and somewhat sharp whiskey barrel, the different tastes blending well. More chocolate comes out as it warms. Finishes fairly bitter with some acidic coffee and slightly astringent oak (and hops possibly). Has a medium sweetness balanced by the whiskey and oak. The astringency lingers too long for me, particularly as it gets warmer.

The texture comes on medium bodied and syrupy but ends a little thin. It contributes unpleasantly to the astringency in the end.

Overall I enjoyed it, fairly complex with the notes blending well. Grading to style, it didn't hold up to other imperial stouts I liked more, but still very good. I think the adjuncts and (to a lesser extent) the whiskey barrel overpowered the base beer a little, and I didn't really like the astringent finish, but fairly rich and nicely balanced.

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Photo of MBrausen
1.59/5  rDev -63.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Poured from a bomber into a Town Hall Sniffer.

A. Pours a deep dark black, mild mocha head about 1 finger thick.

S. Extremely heavy coffee. Almost like fresh coffee beans. That is really the only smell coming off of this beer. Extremely strong.

T. This beer tastes of of pure coffee beans, after they have been used to make five batches. Strong toffee, bitter, lots of coffee. It really is overbearing.

M. Coarse, thick bodied. Slightly dry finish.

O. I did not like this beer at all. It is overbearing wet coffee grounds through and through. It is just too much. This is one of the two beers I have ever poured out. I would not suggest this beer to anyone.

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Photo of xnicknj
4.1/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle poured into snifter

Pours a viscous black color with a small, yet fluffy browned head. Patchy lacing on the glass with some filmy retention resting on top of the brew.

A smack of coffee in the nose with some nutty tones. Bourbon and oak sweeps this away without becoming too hot. Rich chocolate and coffee bean notes swell into the profile.

Coffee and chocolate kick off the flavor, which is fairly rich yet balanced. Somewhat sweet, but tempered by oak and bourbon warmth. Vanilla is present throughout with some molasses and roasted dark malts. More coffee and booze towards the finish.

Fuller body, decent carbonation, silky and creamy on the tongue. This is one of those beers that makes me think, "Why am I trading when this is sitting on the shelf?" Definitely a really nice barrel aged beer that I'd like to have more of.

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Photo of Phelps
4.2/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release 2, poured into a Bruery tulip. This release was brewed with coffee and cocoa nibs and hopped with nugget, chinook and cascade.

Black and thick as ink, topped with half a finger of cinnamon-colored head composed of big, wet bubbles that pop away quickly, leaving a medium-sized ring.

Coffee! Great handfuls of heavily roasted beans in the nose, balanced by sweet dark chocolate hints of vanilla an oak, and the lightest touch of bourbon.

The flavor’s equally coffee-laden, but there’s a little more bourbon and oak here. Big Dark chocolate flavor as well. Basically, everything from the nose, but more intense. Fantastic.

Silky medium body, like hot chocolate. Light, massaging carbonation; mild bitterness; just a hint of boozy heat in the nose.

A surprising delight. Big Bad Baptist displays huge coffee stout flavors with a masterful touch of bourbon. Very, very good.

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Photo of UpToMeBeer
4.2/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got to try this at Choice City Butcher in Fort Collins. A remarkable beer. It pours black/brown with slight copper tinge and minimal (brown/red) head. The most impressive feature is the cocoa-nibs. In fact, I was told by bartender that he's seen chunks of cocoa-nib floating in this beer (...didn't get to witness that myself).
The taste is a cocoa/coffee mixture, tilted toward the former.
Medium-to-heavy body. No alcohol burn, but it is robust .... Take your time because it warms nicely.

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Photo of Treebs
4.15/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle served in Darkess snifter. Release #1, big thanks to MarkIntihar for the extra.

A: Pours a jet black with some brown hued edges and nice khaki head that has some nice retention.

S: Solid coffee bean dominates the nose upfront with a touch of roasted malt and a subtle whiskey backend.

T: Again this is coffee forward, but the whiskey barrel is integrated very nicely. The vanilla and caramel flavors blend nicely with the chocolate, coffee and roasted malts. Tastes like a sweeter version of an Irish coffee. No heat, but the alcohol is noticeable.

M: A tad thin in the body with ample carbonation. I would have liked a little thicker mouthfeel. Coffee lingers on palate long after the sip is complete.

O: I though Grand Teton's Wake Up Call was the most coffee forward until his came along. The barrel is well integrated and sort of lingers in the background to let the coffee and roasty qualities really shine.

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Photo of ONUMello
4.2/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a pint glass
A: Pure jet black, with a very thin head that disappears in a flash.
S: Very, very strong coffee/espresso. I'm not picking up much else the coffee is so strong, but it smells like a mighty nice cup of java.
T: Tons of coffee again, along with a bit of caramel and a slight hops kick at the end. You almost question if at the end of a 11.7% bottle that tastes like this whether you'll be feeling more alcohol or caffeine. A bit one-dimensional, but I like coffee so this tastes mighty fine, and the alcohol is well hidden. Bitter coffee finish.
M: Full-bodied and rich.
O: I honestly could confuse this with a cold Irish espresso. If you don't like coffee I wouldn't recommend this, but I certainly enjoy it.

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Photo of maximum12
3.55/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This gets my nomination for beer name of the year. When I read about this release, I giggled & had to have one. Luckily it showed up locally. 22 oz. bottle split into two Darkness glasses. Release #1.

Pour is black. Nose catapults out of the bottle whilst the beer is mixing with the air with a blast of coffee, coffee, & maybe a little roast.

Big Bad Baptist should be the brew of choice for Mitt's coming campaign. This beer could keep people up a night, there are at least sixteen shots of espresso topping off whatever beer is present. There are also a few layers that come with a distinctiveness that's startling. Under the coffee there's vanilla/bourbon, then to a lesser degree, sweet malts. Roast is mixed in somewhere, indistinguishable from the coffee except for the char shadowing the aftertaste. But ultimately this is a coffee game that goes genocide on everything else, limiting its upside.

This is a big improvement on the Epic Imperial Stout, but I wish the entire ton of coffee didn't fall into the mash tun. Oh well. Ultimately, a good beer that could use a lighter spin in the coffee washer.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big Bad Baptist
Epic Brewing Co.

Pours black as night with an oily, deep brown head. Aromas of charred roasted malts, dark fruits, and alcohol. In the taste, coffee, charcoal, mild sweetness and small hop presence. Bitter almost acrid malt flavor, some barrel presence, providing a nice bite the the beer. Clean alcohol flavors are hidden underneath a strong coffee presence. Full bodied, thick feel. Overall, a beast of a beer, but one thats worth fighting.

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.27/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Black as night, mocha head. Sits still with a brown ring on the the glass. Chocolate and coffee dominate the aroma, with an underlying vanilla and wood note. Toasted notes and some dark fruits. Cocoa leads the taste. Some bittersweet coffee follows, toasted and roasted notes, some sweetness and dark fruitiness. Back end vanilla and toasted oak round it out with some accompanying whiskey notes. The feel is full, and somewhat coating. The alcohol can get a bit heavy, so this makes a good closer.

Overall, a wonderful stout. -bal stouts are hit or miss with me, but this is a hit.

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Photo of AmericanGirl90
4.54/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

As a coffee addict, this beer had me sold just by the smell. A strong whiff of espresso, cocoa, alcohol, and vanilla. Color was deep black with no light escaping.

Bold taste of espresso, cocoa, and alcohol/malt, but not sharp at all. Quite mellow, balanced, and easy to drink...slowly. Slight hint of oak and vanilla in the back.

If you like coffee, this is a fantastic beer for you.

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Photo of bluejacket74
4.42/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle, Batch #2, Brewed on June 10, 2011, Packaged November 28, 2011 (says that on Epic's website). Served in a snifter, the beer pours dark brown/black with about a half inch tan head that stayed around for a little while. There's also a decent amount of lacing. Aroma is strong and roasty, the brew smells mostly like coffee, along with some roasted malt, bittersweet chocolate, and a little bit of whiskey. Taste is mostly like the aroma, there's roasted malt, coffee, chocolate, vanilla, whiskey, oak and burnt/charred malt flavors all noticeable. The coffee flavor is dominant, but there's more sweetness that comes out as the brew continues to warm up. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit slick and creamy with good carbonation. I think this is a pretty good brew, if you're a fan of coffee beers then this one is for you! $12.99 a bottle.

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Photo of corby112
3.85/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark chocolate brown color with a one finger mocha head that quickly settles into a lasting ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Roasted malt aroma with a very strong coffee bean and dark chocolate presence along with a well integrated barrel character. Deep roasted gourmet coffee, dark chocolate, toast and oatmeal complimented by toasted oak. Subtle booze/whiskey in the nose.

Medium bodied with some tight carbonation and a very dry, roasted malt presence that dominates the flavor, lingering into a dry finish. Slightly acrid, heavily roasted coffee bean and bitter dark chocolate notes along with some toffee and oatmeal. Barrel character is most prominent toward the finish with dry, toasted oak complimenting the roasted malt profile and faint boozy whiskey sweetness providing warmth in the finish. Whiskey notes are there but subtle, allowing the other flavors to come through. As it warms the richness from the cocoa and dark malts shine but it's still a bit strong in the roast department for my liking.

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Photo of jera1350
4.5/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pure black with a cocoa colored head of fluffy and rocky foam that makes some nice lacing on the glass.

If this was a sniff test, I would have guessed this was Founders Breakfast Stout. Lots of coffee and chocolate on the nose.

Mmm, nice big flavor. A big malty blend of coffee and chocolate with some warm alcohol permeating up through my nose. There is some warm lingering bourbon in the background. Seems to be more felt than tasted, but it is a nice little compliment. Throw in some oak also. Very tasty, very long flavor. The flavors are nice and mellow where it seems like it's been aged a while.

Very smooth with a lightly sticky feel. Full bodied and plenty warm.

This is a very nice impy stout. Along the lines of a KBS/Breakfast Stout in my opinion. I may have to grab another bottle or two of this one.

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Photo of RocPorterFanatic
4.42/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours dark brown, not black into a tulip with a subtle, creamy, off white head. Leaves trace amount of lacing down the glass as it dissipates.

S - Big blast of espresso/dark roast coffee in the forefront with some dark chocolate notes following.

T - Chocolate and dark roast come up front. The coffee from the nose is muted. Whiskey and the alcohol warmth come running in. An uncommon nutty flavor is coming in on the sides of the palate, something I've not seen much of in an imperial stout.

M - Very pleasant, creamy but not overdone. There's some other more intense coming in as well, but that may be from the nucleation sites in the glass.

O - Delicious beer. Another win from Epic. In this category that's overwhelmingly dominated by bourbon barrel aged beers, this whiskey variety is a true standout.

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Photo of mindspin315
2.22/5  rDev -48.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Almost black body with hints of brown. Small chocolate brown head initially on the pour but has faded to nothing. Lacing is very minimal, gradually falls back into the body.

Big aromas and they're very sweet smelling. Lots of chocolate covered espresso beans, brown sugar, chocolate candy bars, and roasted coffee notes.

Espresso and chocolate are on the palate right away. Not quite as medium or full-bodied as I was expecting this to be. Tastes are actually thin. The beer doesn't seem to be over carbonated so I can't see that being the factor in the watered down flavors. You can detect the coffee, espresso, cocoa, but they don't really shine as much as I thought they would. I do get heat here but nothing that shows me this was aged in Whiskey barrels. Alcohol is quite predominant in the middle then left with a touch of heat and a roasted semi-dry bitterness on the finish.

I was hoping for a little more from this one. It has plenty of things going on that should be good...cocoa nibs, coffee, and aged in whiskey barrels. Altough this one doesn't showcase all that much of a whiskey character and the flavors don't add up to much here. I'd like to see how this beer comes through on tap or a nitro pour.

[68/100]

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Photo of kirok1999
4/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a rich looking black with a nice thick rising light brown head.
Smells of mild milk chocolate mixed with some rich coffee. A mild sweetness comes through as well.
Taste is very nice. Sweet and creamy with lots of coffee and mild milk chocolate. The coffee is well done here, not overpowering at all, just nicely there in the background. The chocolate comes through well and it finishes nicely with a lingering sweetness. Feels rich and smooth. A really well done stout but the price is a bit much to drink with any regularity.

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Photo of morimech
3.75/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Release #1

Viscous liquid that is deep black color. Half inch of head forms and settles quickly to a thin cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left down the glass.

I get mostly coffee in the aroma. This does not change much even as the beer gets close to room temperature. Just subtle hints of roasted malt, chocolate, and the faintest trace of whiskey.

Coffee forward flavor as well. A little bit of roasted, burnt bitterness from the malt. Slight hint of chocolate. The barrel aging did not impart much flavor. Would of liked more. Alcohol is well hidden. Just slightly warming in the finish. A little unbalanced with the heavy coffee flavor.

Full bodied and close to perfect carbonation. Just a little too fizzy upfront.

The flavor was dominated too much by one element. For the cost of the bottle I wanted a much better executed stout. The barrel-aging needed to come out more. I would still give the next release another try.

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Photo of crewfan16
3.9/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

the girlfriend surprised me with two bottles of release #1. poured from a bomber to a snifter.

a- looks completely black to me. khaki colored head doesnt rise too high, but its 11.7 %, so I didnt expect a ton of head.

s- tons of coffee grounds on the nose and some bittersweet chocolate. just a hint of oak and whiskey.

t- again with tons of coffee, but the chocolate comes out way more. just a light tingle of whiskey and oak at the end. nice flavors but seems to lack a little of that complex heavy punch that i expect from a huge imperial stout

m- a tad light for the style. flavors linger on the palate nicely, but lacks the heavy thick feel of a great imperial stout. abv is hidden nicely though, which is a nice plus.

overall, I had mixed feelings on this brew. the coffee and chocolate flavors were great, but the whiskey and barrel again didnt seem to come out much. it was also a little light texture-wise. if offered again, I would definately have some, but I dont know if i would put in the extra effort to find this somewhat rare beer.

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Photo of Mahlik
3.73/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bomber from Belmont Station. Poured into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A - Pours an opaque black with a one-finger tan-colored head. Head seems to dissipate rather quickly, leaving behind some good lacing. Appears to be quite viscous.

S - Coffee, coffee and more coffee. Notes of cocoa float about in the background. I only get marginal hints of oak. It seems that the whiskey barrel aging didn't do much for the aroma.

T - Again, lots of roasted coffee. The roasted malts, cocoa and dark chocolate become more apparent in the taste. The whiskey and oak pop out a little more but still nothing significant.

M - The mouthfeel is nice on this beer. It's full-bodied and creamy without being too viscous. Moderate carbonation. The alcohol is hidden well. The only time I really felt its presence is in the aftertaste.

O - A good imperial stout from a brewery I'm new to. I wish the whiskey/oak/barrel-aging characteristics were a bit more prevalent. The coffee seemed to dominate the other aromas/flavors.

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Photo of woosterbill
4.49/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bomber into a Surly Darkness glass. Big thanks to knifestyles for opening this under-the-radar powerhouse.

A: Black with orange highlights under a thin layer of tan bubbles. All right.

S: Mmmm. Intense coffee + cocoa powder. Not much in the way of whiskey, but the coffee and chocolate are so radically fresh and intense that I don't care. Awesome.

T: Coffee and chocolate essence. Seriously, this is like chocolate-flavored coffee or coffee-flavored chocolate, whichever sounds more delicious to you. There's nothing else here, and what's here is some of the most delicious coffee/chocolate flavor I've ever experienced. The finish is spicy with booze, which is the only thing keeping this from getting full marks. Incredible.

M: Quite viscous - much more so than the appearance would suggest. Moderate carbonation. Absolutely luscious.

O: What a beer. Complex it is not, but it gets the job done like no other stout I can remember. I'd buy more in a heartbeat if I knew where to find it. Drink this beer.

Cheers!

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.37/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a stemmed flare glass at Michael's in Charlottesville. Release #1 (11.7%). Brewed on December 2010 and blended with June 2011. Packaged 22 September 2011.

A: A big, gorgeous tan head. Incredibly black, but shot through with ruby highlights.

S: Amazing! Loads of coffee -- reminiscent of Péché Mortel, one of my all-time favourites -- and sweet, dark chocolate are utterly captivating.

T: Is there such a thing as TOO much coffee bitterness? Maybe... Regardless, this beer is chock full of it, resulting in a long, lingering bitterness and a bittersweet maintaste. I love this beer, even if it's a tad one-dimensional. Smooth and utterly delicious.

M/O: Surprisingly substantial, and altogether bitter. This is a great beer and an amazingly good Imperial Stout. Highly recommended...if you like coffee. I will have another. So good.

Notes
Malts: Muntons Maris Otter Malt, Briess 2-Row Brewer Malt, Crystal Muntons, Weyerman Light Munich Malt T1, 2-Row chocolate malt, 2-row black malt, roasted barley
Hops: Nugget, Chinook, Cascade
Other: Coffee, Cocoa Nibs
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Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into an Albemarle Ciderworks glass. Release #3 (11.4%). Brewed on 22 August 2011. Packaged 9 December 2011.

4.5A: Pours viscously, black and dark. Opaque, with little to no head.

4S: There is a strange scent here, lingering amongst the coffee. Nitrogen? Carbon dioxide? Not as powerful or as excellent as the first release. Still shit tons of coffee.

4.25T/4: Flat coffee. BIttersweet chocolate. Lingering (coffee) bitterness. The whiskey shows a little bit more on this release, offering a subtle, almost subversive, vanilla sweetness. Substantial, chewy, and thick, but little carbonation. Even some hops in up here.

4.5O: A big, bruiser of a coffee stout. I strongly suspect that actual brewed coffee is added (not just coffee beans). Recommended for coffee lovers. Would drink again, but man it's expensive.

Notes
Malts: Muntons Maris Otter Malt, Briess 2-Row Brewer Malt, Crystal Muntons, Weyerman Light Munich Malt T1, 2-Row chocolate malt, 2-row black malt, roasted barley
Hops: Nugget, Chinook, Cascade
Other: Millcreek Coffee nibs (French Roast), Cocoa Nibs

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Photo of ColForbinBC
4.25/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a snifter; release #1

Pours a still ink black, absolutely no light getting through this guy. A small brown colored head bubbled up and never truly took shape before fading away.

Charred roasted malt, coffee grounds and bitter dark chocolate leap out of the glass. I could smell it while I was pouring it. Oak and bourbon are low lying additions.

There is a uniqueness to this stout that is growing on me. Charred roast and coffee carry you through the middle where bitter chocolate, dark fruits and bourbon take over. The finish is some more char and bitter coffee grounds. The mildest amount of warming is noticeable, but doesn't detract from anything.

The feel is pretty damn good. Oily smooth with a good amount of heft behind it. Lingering char and coffee with bourbon notes.

The charred malt lends a great partner flavor to the bitter chocolate and coffee grounds. One that I haven't come across before. This is a damn fine stout that is welcome in my glass any time. Solid job, Epic.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.65/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from bomber into tulip glass. Pours dark black with a moderate looking viscosity. The head rises an inch or two then settles after a minute. Smell is inviting at first with a rich dark carmel oaky vanilla followed by a bitter coffee smell mellowed by chocolate. The smell of the very strong coffee doesn't appeal to me. Gives off a dark rich roast almost espresso scent. Unfortunately, I am not much of a coffee drinker so you can say this was a bit dark rich bitter astringent. There is a moderate amount of vanilla oak and warm alochol. There is some carmel malt and roasty malt. Mostly coffee mocha and barrel. Light notes of ash, dark fruit and tree bark. There is a lingering sweetness cleaned up by a moderate bitter hop bite. Mouthfeel is medium body with medium carbonation that is creamy. Probably a better beer for those who really swear by coffee.

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Photo of Vierenner
2.47/5  rDev -42.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

I had very high expectations but was severly disappointed. I was hoping for a Big John sort of quality & flavor -- it's certainly not that. The smell is powerful but I'm not sure how to describe it -- musty, perhaps? The taste is out of balance ... incoherent. A mix of flavors, each trying to out do the other, certainly not in harmony. Often even a mediocre beer gets better during a sitting as the taste buds acclimate ... not the case for me with this one. Stay away.

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Big Bad Baptist from Epic Brewing Company
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