Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale | Epic Brewing Company

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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden AleElder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company
Utah, United States
epicbrewing.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Epic Brewing Company’s latest barrel-aged beer brings something new—wild yeast. This brew is a collaboration ale with Crooked Stave Artisan Brewing of Fort Collins, Colorado. Chad Yakobson, brewmaster/owner of Crooked Stave, is well known for his skill and knowledge in the brewing of sour and Brettanomyces driven beers. The beer was brewed at Epic by the two brewers. Kevin Crompton, Epic’s brewmaster, and Chad spent several weeks working on the recipe and selecting the proper Brett strains and barrels for the beer to morph from a golden Sasion into a Saison-Brett Golden Ale.

Added by JohnGalt1 on 01-28-2012

BEER STATS
Ratings:
437
Reviews:
98
Avg:
4.02
pDev:
9.7%
 
 
Wants:
30
Gots:
67
For Trade:
3
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1.5/5  rDev -62.7%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2.25/5  rDev -44%

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2.5/5  rDev -37.8%

Photo of kojevergas
2.68/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded silver pressure cap and simple lime green/beige label served into a Uinta pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high; I loved Big Bad Baptist and I love a good saison, but I'm not big on Crooked Stave. Release #2. 9.5% ABV according to my bottle.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger white colour head of fair cream, nice thickness, and pretty decent (~4 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent pale yellow. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Not a great appearance for a saison, but it's not unappealing.

Sm: Pear, white wine, white grapeskin, lightly tart brettanomyces - nowhere near as funky as I expected, pale malts, crystal malts, light lemon citrus esters, cidery character, buried delicate wood barrel, and light pale grains. A subtly executed aroma of mild to moderate strength. No alcohol is detectable. It's not quite what I expected, but it's good. More a golden ale than a saison based on the aromatics. Any hopping is light and floral in character. Intriguing.

T: Hm. There's good and bad here. White grapeskin is the first thing I get. It has an overly sweet pale malt body. Hopping is floral and generic. The white wine aging takes a turn for the worse around the climax, where it quickly devolves into a crappy white wine mixed with cheap pear cidre. Ugh. Overdone crystal malt is prominent. Where's the subtlety of the aroma? I'm not liking this one at all; I didn't expect it to be this bad. Terribly balanced. Poorly built for a saison. I don't get hardly any brettanomyces; no funkiness and only a bit of tartness. What went wrong here? Is Batch #2 considerably different than Batch #1?

Mf: A bit acidic. Coarse and wet. Unrefreshing. Overly thick. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Horribly executed for a saison. Doesn't suit the flavour profile or the style hardly at all.

Dr: I used to think Epic was crappy based on the Brainless beers I tried. Then I had Big Bad Baptist and wanted to try more Epic. Now, I'm moving back towards leaving their beers on the shelf. Is this brewery really this hit and miss? Or can I pin this one on Crooked Stave? Terribly done for a saison, lacking any degree of subtlety, balance, or sophistication. Really disappointing. I'll have trouble killing this bottle due to the low quality. Not at all recommended. Unexpectedly bad.

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2.77/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Pour out of 22 oz bottle. I though the color for a saison was very nice, honey in color.

Smelled of soap box, floral..Acacia and resin.

Taste was hard to wrap my head around. Not tart but honey and flowers come to mind.

Over all - it didn't taste appealing to me.

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Photo of BrownAleMale
2.93/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Might as well be white wine. Barrel aging was over done and not my thing!

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3/5  rDev -25.4%

Photo of shleepy
3.03/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Clear and golden. Small head. Smell has a champagne-like yeast/sugar quality and some Brett. taste is similar - a little residual sugar and plenty of Brett character. Honestly, tastes a lot like some my older, mediocre homebrew that I was recently tasting. Disappointing.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.19/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Thanks Jeff. Served in a cervoise. Pale yellow. Bready and Bretty. Lemon and a bit of grain. Flavor a bit phenolic. Moderate carbonation. Dry.

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Photo of phishphorce
3.25/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

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3.25/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.28/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Beaver13
3.36/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle, release #1. Pours a hazy yellow with a smallish white head that goes to a thin film that leaves some lacing. It has quite a few floaties.

The aroma is floral brett and some slightly metallic overripe fruits and some funk.

The flavor is some fruity apple champagne with brett notes and some funk with a bit of bitterness in the dry finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, I recall this being a much better brett beer when I had it a couple of months ago. Either this bottle is different or it isn't aging well for my tastes. A lot more sediment this time around too.

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Photo of mroberts1204
3.37/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Cracked open a 22oz bottle of this. Label indicates 'Release #2, 9.5% ABV'.

Pours a straw color with bright white head. Smell is of pilsner malt, light funky brett, pineapple, and hops. Taste is slightly tart, hops, a bit of funk, and some out of place sweetness. No barrel. Medium to full body. Mouthfeel is a weak spot for me. A little slick. A bit too full for the style and many typical saison characteristics were missing. Overall its an okay beer that hides the alcohol well. There are some nice flavors but it needs some work.

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3.38/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brief write-up. The nose doesn't do a good job of expressing detailed Brett notes (instead, it's faintly offensive), but the flavor profile works better. It's vaguely tart at first, with a nicely complex finish. It's a bit sweet, but it's 9.1%. A classic example of a beer that smells better than it tastes.

3.38/5: Lame nose, impressive taste

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3.39/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of NateMac13
3.4/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

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3.41/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

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3.48/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.48/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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