Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale | Epic Brewing Company

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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden AleElder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company
Utah, United States
epicbrewing.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Epic Brewing Company’s latest barrel-aged beer brings something new—wild yeast. This brew is a collaboration ale with Crooked Stave Artisan Brewing of Fort Collins, Colorado. Chad Yakobson, brewmaster/owner of Crooked Stave, is well known for his skill and knowledge in the brewing of sour and Brettanomyces driven beers. The beer was brewed at Epic by the two brewers. Kevin Crompton, Epic’s brewmaster, and Chad spent several weeks working on the recipe and selecting the proper Brett strains and barrels for the beer to morph from a golden Sasion into a Saison-Brett Golden Ale.

Added by JohnGalt1 on 01-28-2012

BEER STATS
Ratings:
435
Reviews:
97
Avg:
4.01
pDev:
9.73%
 
 
Wants:
30
Gots:
66
For Trade:
3
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Ratings: 435 |  Reviews: 97
Photo of Sammy
3.8/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Big brett aroma, saison brett. Odd spider lacing. Funk aroma, a sour edge. Yellow bodied. Boozy smell in the finish, bigger than the listed abv. A pleasant drinkable sourness.
Bottle from recent US trip.A recommended try for funk and saison fans. A good and unique Brett.

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Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

Photo of Texasfan549
3.8/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of spycow
4.25/5  rDev +6%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.12/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Release # 1.

Pours a murky light yellow with a 1 inch foamy white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Lots of sediment is seen floating in the beer after the pour. Smell is of grain, tart fruit (sour green apples, etc.), funk, and some Brett. Taste is of grain, sour fruits, funk, light Brett, and some buttery flavors. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that has a nice Brett presence that isn't too in your face. Very tasty and easy to drink too.

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Photo of djrn2
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

this is a really solid brew, but one that likely will improve with a little age. its drinking a bit young from a brett standpoint, but is still loaded with flavor. rather clear for a wild ale type, bright golden in color with a slowly fading inch of white head. green skinned pears and floral saison yeast are the primary smells, but i get some bretty funk in there as well as a sweeter wheat malt with a hint of honey-like sugar. the taste is less fruity than the nose, and i really do taste a saison as a bade before i taste a wild bretty brew. the brett is subtle, and it comes on late simultaneously with the leftover sugar, unconventional to say the least. its herbal and sturdy, not quite as dry and bubbly as i expect brett beers to be, but it may get there with some time. as it is, its a complex and interesting brew with lots of yeast character and body, and its definitely worth the roughly 12 bucks they ask for a bottle, but it may be cool to buy a few for later. some age may make this really pop off.

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4.25/5  rDev +6%

Photo of metter98
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.48/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of BEERchitect
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I love what Brettanomyces does to beers, even when they aren't considered a sour style. The teeth churning dry, funky-fresh earthen character adds complexity and seduction to nealry every beer that attemps this feat. This time- Saison!

Opening with a densly hazed light gold appearance, the beer sheds an tall column of foam that's comprised of both tight knit froth and loosely knit bubbles. Strong in its retention, it randomly laces the glass with clumped pockets here and there- somewhat pelicle-like.

A brisk whiff of sulfury sea air wafts over the nose, en route to aromas of apple cider, dried limes, weathered wood, cellar-like must, and sweat that layers on a grainy-sweet scented bed of light malt.

Earthy in taste, the supple grain sweetness of baking bread and light honey rise first, just ahead of the tart fruit flavors of crab apple, dried limes, white wine and citrus peels. As the beer gains earthen character, other complements of dust, must, brine, and plaster rise to greet a bitter-tart interplay in finish.

Medium-light in body, the already dry Saison textures are further ripped appart by the powdery smooth dryness from the wild yeast. Bone dry to finish, the ale is almost more completely appreciated in aftertaste where the carbonation keeps all those flavors and aromatics captured hovering above the tongue.

Elder Brett is a fantastic and whimsical ale that really goes back to the true farmhouse brewed ales. Similar to Boulevard's Saison-Brett, this one also carries all those intangibles of Brettanomyces in its look, aroma, taste, and all the way through texture.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.83/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle @ 9.4% ABV - wow, this one's gonna be a doozy!

This beer pours a mostly clear, medium golden yellow colour, with two fingers of puffy, loosely foamy, and somewhat creamy off-white head, which leaves some streaky coral reef atoll lace around the glass as it evenly bleeds away.

It smells of slightly funky Brett infection, grainy and doughy pale malt, a lesser edgy wheatiness, sensible yeast, some plain white wine barrel essences - a light toastiness, indistinct grapes, and some understated vanilla - muddled earthy spices, and some very tame leafy and floral green hop bitters. The taste is gritty and grainy pale malt, some crackery wheatiness, a mixed Brett/Saison yeast astringency (one surprisingly low-key on the funkitude), white wine lees, a dry vanillan woodiness, and more herbal, floral, and weedy green hoppiness. No real impression of the near 19-proof booze quotient, for the record.

The carbonation is fairly reserved in its unmotivated frothiness, the body a decent middleweight, and mostly smooth, just a minor sense of the bacteria/yeast intrusion making for a wee fuss here. It finishes off-dry, the white wine character lingering the hardest (that sounds weird, don't it?), while the guest beasties keep up their charade of good breeding.

Overall, this is actually a more or less pleasant wild/farmhouse/saison ale, with the subtle barrel treatment going a long way in glossing over the effects of the Brett that one might have been expecting. At any rate, not a bad brew, but more evidence that I need to spend my dwindling beer dollars on stuff that really floats my proverbial boat.

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Photo of kojevergas
2.68/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded silver pressure cap and simple lime green/beige label served into a Uinta pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high; I loved Big Bad Baptist and I love a good saison, but I'm not big on Crooked Stave. Release #2. 9.5% ABV according to my bottle.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger white colour head of fair cream, nice thickness, and pretty decent (~4 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent pale yellow. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Not a great appearance for a saison, but it's not unappealing.

Sm: Pear, white wine, white grapeskin, lightly tart brettanomyces - nowhere near as funky as I expected, pale malts, crystal malts, light lemon citrus esters, cidery character, buried delicate wood barrel, and light pale grains. A subtly executed aroma of mild to moderate strength. No alcohol is detectable. It's not quite what I expected, but it's good. More a golden ale than a saison based on the aromatics. Any hopping is light and floral in character. Intriguing.

T: Hm. There's good and bad here. White grapeskin is the first thing I get. It has an overly sweet pale malt body. Hopping is floral and generic. The white wine aging takes a turn for the worse around the climax, where it quickly devolves into a crappy white wine mixed with cheap pear cidre. Ugh. Overdone crystal malt is prominent. Where's the subtlety of the aroma? I'm not liking this one at all; I didn't expect it to be this bad. Terribly balanced. Poorly built for a saison. I don't get hardly any brettanomyces; no funkiness and only a bit of tartness. What went wrong here? Is Batch #2 considerably different than Batch #1?

Mf: A bit acidic. Coarse and wet. Unrefreshing. Overly thick. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Horribly executed for a saison. Doesn't suit the flavour profile or the style hardly at all.

Dr: I used to think Epic was crappy based on the Brainless beers I tried. Then I had Big Bad Baptist and wanted to try more Epic. Now, I'm moving back towards leaving their beers on the shelf. Is this brewery really this hit and miss? Or can I pin this one on Crooked Stave? Terribly done for a saison, lacking any degree of subtlety, balance, or sophistication. Really disappointing. I'll have trouble killing this bottle due to the low quality. Not at all recommended. Unexpectedly bad.

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Photo of brentk56
3.56/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear goldenstraw with a frothy head that fritters away, leaving copious amounts of lace

Smell: Floral, almost honeysuckle-like, with a funky, leathery tone; a vinous aspect, as well

Taste: Funky and floral, with honeysuckle and other herbal elements; strong, oaky white wine flavor builds; farmhouse and medicinal, in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: I guess I am going to go against the grain here, but I really don't care for the flavor profile here; reminds me of a non-fruited mead with Brett

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Photo of oline73
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle into a goblet.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy orangish yellow color with just a small layer of head that goes away as quickly as any beer I've ever had.

Smell: Some brett funk up front with some Belgian spice and a slightly tart fruity note.

Taste: This beer has that slightly funky and tart brett flavor right off the bat. There is a component that is a bit perfume like. Some sweet malt with a green apple like fruity tartness.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tiny, tingly bubbles and a dry finish.

Overall: This is a good beer. I was surprised how fast the head disappeared. The perfume like qualities that show up in some wild ales aren't my favorite.

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Photo of dmorgan310
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of superspak
4.22/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass; Release #1, bottled 1/23/2012. Pours lightly hazy/cloudy bright golden amber color with a 2 finger fairly dense and fluffy white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Dense spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a ton of streaming carbonation retaining the head. Aromas of big peach, pineapple, pear, apple, lemon zest, floral, hay, grass, white wine, oak, clove, pepper, musty funk, herbal, and yeast earthiness. Fantastic aromas with great complexity and balance of brett, yeast, and wine barrel notes; with great strength. Taste of big pineapple, peach, pear, apple, white wine, lemon zest, oak, clove, pepper, hay, floral, grass, musty funk, light honey, herbal, and yeast earthiness. Light earthy tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of pineapple, peach, pear, apple, white wine, lemon zest, oak, clove, hay, grass, light honey, herbal, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity and balance of brett, yeast, wine barrel, and light malt flavors; with a crisp malt/spiciness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. High carbonation and medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and moderately prickly mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is an awesome Brett saison! All around great complexity and balance of brett, yeast, and wine barrel flavors; and very smooth and crisp to sip on for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of DrBier
4.24/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Thorpe429
3.19/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Thanks Jeff. Served in a cervoise. Pale yellow. Bready and Bretty. Lemon and a bit of grain. Flavor a bit phenolic. Moderate carbonation. Dry.

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Photo of mothman
4.42/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a white head head. Leaves some decent lace. Color is a slight hazed golden yellow.

Aroma: Very fruity and herbal. Lemon and green apples. Very earthy. A very slight amount of brett. Fairly tart. This beer is smelling awesome.

Aroma: Tart green apples and pears. lemon zest and citrus. Spices. Brett. Yeast. Funkiness is here. Farmhouse flavors. This beer is awesome.

Mouthfeel: Spiced, tart, and clean. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, this was a great beer. By far the best Epic beer I have had. A great saison with a nice tart and fruit flavor. The brett was mild, but I liked it. Very enjoyable! Very drinkable!

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4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of oberon
3.67/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a large tulip glass a somewhat hazed lighter golden with a thinner than expected white head atop.Alot of tart green apple in the nose,a tinge spice with funk induced brett somewhat subdued wich didn't bother me.Again tart green apples play a big role on the palate with the funkiness being a little more assertive,a decent breadiness holds well thru the finish,the alcohol lends just a little sweet zip.Not bad,it's not as funky as many of the farmhouse brett in fused styles, but it's not overly complex either.

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Photo of jlindros
3.95/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to Francois for sharing at his bottle share.

Nice fizzy head, hazy golden peach colored.

Nose nice fruit funk, light tangerine guava like fruit, some Brett funk, light sweet blond malts,

Taste nice Brett barnyard funk to start, grassy hay, grainy, then guava fruit and some stone fruit skin must, little juicy citrus fruit as well and touch of lemon zest, sweet blond malts. Pretty tasty, but not much for saison flavors, more of a blond ale with Brett.

Mouth is med to lighter bodied, nice effervescent carb.

Overall not bad, some nice barnyard funk but a bit too light, I do like the idea of blond ale instead of real saison characters, but I love my saisons more so I would have preferred that, and nice fruit flavors, but a bit too malty sweet.

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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale from Epic Brewing Company
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