Ichtegem's Grand Cru | Brouwerij Strubbe

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Brewed by:
Brouwerij Strubbe
Belgium
brouwerij-strubbe.be

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by audiojon on 05-07-2006

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568
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253
Avg:
3.74
pDev:
12.03%
 
 
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Photo of Dweedlebug
3.27/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of organicbrewer
3.28/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2oz poured into an Oerbier glass

a-Brilliantly clear ruby with a two finger eggshell head. Pleasant to look at. Head thins but lingers.

s-Malt vinegar and cherries. Slightly metalic. Some wood.

t-Sweet carmelly malt. Wood chips. Not very sour. I know the oud bruin isn't puckering but the balance is tilted way towards the sweet. Not much sour here. Almost like a brown ale aged in wood.

m- medium dry bodied. Not a ton of carbonation, which might help cut the sweetness a little

d- If this was a little less sweet, and/or was a bit more sour this would be better. The sweetness lingers on the palate a bit too long.

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Photo of Georgiabeer
3.28/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured a murky reddish brown with a thin head. Sweet fruity aromas followed by a dose of lightly acetic sourness. More sweeet than sour, but only slightly. There is also a slight vegetal aroma and some dusty smelling fruit. The taste is a little light, and once again more on the sweet than the sour side. Still, none of the unpleasant vegetal odors manifest in th taste at all. Mouthfeel is very fizzy, a little too much so. Overall, this beer is a little too sweet for the style for my taste and a bit out of balance. Not bad, but there are a number of better options.

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Photo of snogglethorpe
3.28/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bears more than a passing resemblance to Ichtegem's Oud Bruin from the same brewery, if a little less sweet.

It's an attractive darkish brown with a nice off-white head. The smell is kind of musty and attractive, but the taste is a little thin and overly sweet. There's not much in the way of sourness/tartness. There's a bit of mustiness/wood in the taste, though not as much as in the smell.

It's quite drinkable and not at all unpleasant, but a little underwhelming. If you're looking for sour/tart, go elsewhere.

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.3/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11/2012 printed on cap

A - Deep reddish brown with little head.

S - Sour and slightly acidic, wet oak, cherry yogurt?, maybe a touch of spice.

T - Wet oak, vanilla, slightly spicy with tart cherry. The oaky tannins linger on the tongue.

M - Medium body leaving a slick, dry coating in the mouth. After several sips I feel as if I have been sucking on wet oak chips that have gone dry and are leaving a strange oaky film coating my mouth.

D - Slight promise in appearance and smell but all down hill from there.

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Photo of beckje01
3.3/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark red color with a thin white head.

S- Very sour nose and a touch of malt in there as well

T- Some malt some sour some dryness and no aftertaste it's nice but the whole taste is rather fleeting, interesting.

M- Slightly too thin a bit more body would help.

D- Nice easy to drink. Not a good beer to start some one with this style with but a nice version of it. Worth a try if you see it.

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Photo of LauraGG
3.3/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Richardberg
3.3/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - poured into a tulip. Dark copper, very reddish when reflecting any amount of light. Fairly opaque but not hazy (no obvious bubbles or sediment in the way, just...hazy). Small head disappears quickly but leaves a little lacing.

S - balsamic vinegar, dark cherry, prune...yet a little bit of sweet caramel too

T - nicely tart up front but lacks backbone and/or auxiliary flavors

M - light body, not much in the way of carbonated zing either. Needs one or the other to bring it back to life.

D - decent sour. not interesting enough to pay import pricing.

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Photo of Spiderhouse
3.33/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A--Dark, opaque brown with magenta hues. Minimal head. No lacing.

S--Dark overripe cherries, with an odd hint of grapes. Like Bubble Yum grape, not Bordeaux grape. Odd.

T--Like it smells, sadly, with a funky back end. There's a musty, attic-like quality on the finish. Not bad, really, but not great.

M--Merely average.

D--Okay. I mean, I wouldn't turn it down at a party, but this is far from the best I've had in this style. A bit of a disappointment.

Procured from Red Carpet Wine & Liquor, Glendale, CA

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.33/5  rDev -11%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled February 2010
A solid pour into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip produces an almost three-finger thick, lightly amber tinged, light tan colored head. The beer is a dark, almost burnt, amber color that shows a fairly clear, deep red hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells lightly tart, faintly of balsamic vinegar, has a touch of fermented plum sauce, a solid but subtle cherry like fruitiness, some rhubarb aromas and maybe even a hint of nail polish.

Quite a bit sweeter than I was expecting, though not as sweet as the Duchesse, and there is only a touch of tartness to the flavor. The sweetness definitely begs for more balancing sourness, at least for this particular sour beer lover. This tastes quite a bit like cherries up front, but finishes with a rich maltiness that is laden with rich oxidized malt notes, toasted-brown-sugar crusted whole-grain bread and light sherry or even port like notes. Actually come to think of it, this really tastes like Concord grape juice, which I must say I am not the biggest fan of. There is perhaps a hint of spiciness towards the finish that suggests oak, but there is a certain roundness to the texture that suggests oak-derived tannins. The mix of tart and sweet, combines with the medium'ish body to make this fairly drinkable.

I shouldn't have expected too much for this beer, but somehow I feel a bit disappointed and cheated. This is certainly not horrible, but to my preferences it is not sour or tart enough and it could use a bit more malt richness too, hell even some rustic funkiness would be welcome.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.34/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Best by 2015, I think, but it's smudged.

Appearance - Dark ruby brown body with an ample two-finger head of off-white foam. Excellent lacing. Really nice lacing.

Smell - Sweet malts and oak are most predominant. Hardly any tart aromas. Cherry, I suppose, but it's not a sour cherry.

Taste - Much more acidic than the aroma implies. Harsh acidic red wine vinegar. Oak all over, too. Finishes just a touch sweet.

Mouthfeel - Harsh on the palate. The flavors aren't bad, but the mouthfeel is unpleasant. Very acidic and vinegary. Highly carbonated.

Overall - It's harsh and too oaky. The flavors aren't inherently bad, but the feel just cancels out all benefits.

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Photo of Donkster46
3.34/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of DefenCorps
3.35/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle, picked up at State Line in Elkton. Date on cap says "08-2010", so i guess this bottle has another two years to go. Into my Defiant tulip

A: Pours a very deep red (almost reddish-brown) with a solid two-finger head. Holding it against a strong light reveals plenty of carbonation and a beer of considerable clarity.

S: Sour with some acetic notes with a pronounced oaky sweetness with plenty almost raw oaky vanilla character. The sweetness in this beer is very woody in nature and quite appealing. In the grander scheme of things, this one's among the less sour of the Flemish Reds but not everything can be a La Folie or Ommegang Rouge.

T: Starts off with a surprisingly sour character with some vinegar and oak and a palm sugar like sweetness. On swallowing, however, this beer becomes quite, uh, strange with some almost rotting meat-like flavor and a mildly tannic, dry finish.

M: Fairly light in body with pretty good carbonation and a nice dry finish (maybe a tad watery) but the strange flavor on the finish is off-putting.

D: This is fairly easy to drink, at least until you swallow this beer. I'm not sure I'll finish it, probably let it sit for an hour before i continue drinking

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Photo of jojox
3.35/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

a - brown, slightly red. Very clear. No sediment, this doens't seem to be bottle conditioned.

s - smells of toast and mild wild funk. Caramel malt in there too.

t - sweet malt with a hint of sour and tang. Winey, red wine but no tannins.

m - lots of CO2. Not much else to say.

d - easy, but not what I expected.

This seems like a very simple beer, only very slightly tart/tangy and not much complex sourness or funkyness. Very drinkable.

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Photo of ThirdLap
3.36/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up at Holiday Wine Cellar in Escondido on the way back from my wedding in San Diego. Bottle shows a best before date of 03-2013. Served at 45°F in engraved champagne flutes we received as a gift at our reception.

Pours a dark ruby brown with a finger-thick creamy light tan head. Lots and lots of chunky thick lacing remain as I sip this one down.

Nose is rather subdued... there's a lot going on, but nothing that really screams out for attention. Most apparent is tangy dark cherries and the expected notes of red wine vinegar. Hints of oak and caramel round things out. Alcohol is apparent, which leads me to believe ABV is on the higher end of the scale for Flanders reds.

First taste is promising, with tart cherries, red wine, and an oaky finish, but it quickly fizzles, proving to be a rather one-dimensional example of the style. Savor this one quickly, as any flavor the tongue picks up disappears quick. Mrs. ThirdLap (who is a fan of the style) could not finish her glass, complaining of an off-flavor that reminded her of beers that have been improperly stored... however I'm fairly certain that's not the case with this bottle.

Body is rather thin and watery, with carbonation on the medium-high end of the scale. Alcohol is more noticeable than expected.

I found myself losing interest after the first few sips, knocking a few points off drinkability. It's an easy-drinking beer, but you simply find yourself bored with it very quickly.

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Photo of DaveHS
3.36/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours deep brown with ruby highlights and a fluffy 1.5 inch head. Leaves moderate soapy lacing.

S-Sauerkraut! Makes me want a hot dog. Some light lactic acidity.

T/M-Soft, nutty. Not very sour. Just a hint of cherry sweetness, low carbonation.

D-I could see this being a good gateway Flanders Red, but certainy not a great representation of the style.

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Photo of juhl31
3.38/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

-the color is a cloudy, deep brown with a reddish accent. a light tan head rises nicely during the pour and then settles out to a thin sheet

-there is definitely a vinegary smell to it, like a balsamic. there is a hint sour smell as well. a bit of a malt sniff in the back as well

-on the front of the sip there is sourness on the front of the tongue with the vinegar taste lingering in the back of the tongue. that taste melts into a fruity, sweet tart style candy taste (aka an artificial candy fruit taste). the finish leaves a weird, kind of rooty taste in my mouth. plus points for a nice transformation of flavors, neg. points for the finish

-there is a sharp carb bite which is weird because it also feels a bit flat somehow. it leaves kind of a burny back of the throat as well

-not necessarily a big fan of this beer. with that being said, the front end taste of the beer i didn't mind. glad i tried it, but that's probably it

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Photo of drpimento
3.38/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served with very little head and no lace. Color is a dark, cloudy brown with some reddish highlights. Maybe a little light struck: some burnt rubber/skunk. Flavor's not quite as skunky as aroma and I get some of the nice tart malt with fruit in the background. Had another bottle of this here recently and it was much better - no skunk. Good mouth and carbonation. Skunk's gone at the end. Good finish. No sense of the alcohol at all. I'd try another

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Photo of OldIronLungs
3.41/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Goose Island stemmed glass a deep mahogany/red with a finger of lightly laced head.

Lightly tart nose, cherries, apple vinegar, red wine?

A sip is sweeter cherry/grape to start, then turns to a sour vinegar, slightly grassy. Medium to lighter body with nice carbonation.

Pretty solid, nothing jumping out at me. Good level of sourness, though a little vegative mid sip.

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Photo of ReelBigwigFish
3.41/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into flute glass.

A: Very dark copper color, big foamy light tan head.

S: Sweet malt, mild vinegar sourness, hints of tart cherries. Not impressive for the style.

T: Mild tartness, cherries, dark malt.

M: Bright foamy carbonation, light-medium body that seems a little chewy at times.

O: Kind of a let down, this was not nearly sour or tart enough to satisfy that sour-ale addiction. Not a bad beer, but it's not the mouth watering sour ale that I (and many others) crave from this style.

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Photo of GusDom
3.42/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Poured with an inch worth of head, the color is of a darker ruby reddish/brown. Fine bubbles floating to the top. Pretty nice looking beer, not much lacing being left though. Head dissapeared after about a minute.

Aroma- Grape skin, slight green apple and vinegar. Smells like kombucha. Fresh tart cranberries, slight caramel, faint bitter-sweet chocolate. Has an oaky finish.

Taste- Caramel, prunes, slight vinegar, oak, smell and taste are actually pretty different. I also get a nutty taste, similar to an almond. The smell tends to be more pungent where as the taste is just slightly pungent with a slight sweetness added.

Verdict- I have mixed feelings about this beer. I definitely appreciate the aroma, the beer didn't seem too complex at first whiff but after about 4 more tries I started picking up the chocolate notes, it definitely surprised me how complex the aroma was. Still, the taste just didn't do it for me. I was expecting a little more sour and not so much sweetness. I'm not saying it was very sweet, but it did have that slight doppelbock caramel note I was not expecting in a flemish sour. I would try again if offered but Im not going to go out of my way to seek it out. I would rather recommend Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour for someone who is new to sours, it may not be as complex but it is definitely more enjoyable IMO.

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Photo of dbossman
3.43/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Mahogoney with a thin but steady head; lacing is full and steady

S: Sour; woody with a touch of vinegar; subtle tart cherries

T: Sourness falls flat--a bit of tart apple and woodiness but most is lost in watery finish

F: A bit thin

D: While this is drinkable, this is not what I was expecting--thin and not nearly sour enough

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Photo of ktrillionaire
3.43/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - It looks more brown than red, with a little eggshell-hued foam. Pretty straight-up for the style.

S - The smell is of a little wood, small traces of vinegar, and huge notes of sweet Concord grape.

T - The taste is fruity as hell, the flavor is almost all Concord grape juice, even on the finish a little sour-tart candy grape flavor lingers. I don't detect much else; the Concord grape sweetness is overpowering.

M - Feels thin and refreshingly light. It works well with the flavor.

D - Too sweet for me, and it just overwhelms all of the intricacies that I look for in Flemish Sour.

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Photo of deapokid
3.43/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is a Flemish Red I missed at Sour Fest, but luckily stumbled upon at Capone's:

Pours a winey, blood red with thin acidic head and champagne-size carbonation.

Scent is ripe, sour and fruity, like a very tart sangria. A woody forest character brought on by the oak barrels is ever present.

Taste is subtly dry, well-mixed with an oak character and the sweetness of cherry and raspberry flavors. Ending is musky like a wine cellar, but a little understated compared to Rodenbach and the Duchesse.

Acidity tingles in the back of the throat, with a dry ending that resonates after the sip for a few seconds. Flavors aren't sour enough to limit drinkability, which makes this one go down pretty easily, especially with that nice oakey ending.

Although not a masterpiece, this isn't a bad rendition and only suffers based on comparisons with other, more established brews.

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Photo of Phatz
3.44/5  rDev -8%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

What a strange beer. A Flemish Red that is more creamy than sour. Odd.

Appearance: The look it terrific. It pours a dark garnet brown with absolutely loads of lacing plastering the walls of my glass like a curtain.

Smell: Sweet sugars, Belgian candy sugar, molasses toffee, and *browned butter*.

Taste: The most distracting flavor in the beer is this significant butteryness with a vinegar attribute as well and of course the wood flavors come though as expect in a barrel aged sour red. There is a dull cherry/sherry element and tasty touch of old fruit. Still the butterscotch is odd.

Mouthfeel: It is a rather smooth medium body with fine carbonation that slides across the palate. Average-ish.

Drinkability: I seemed to enjoy the opportunity to try this beer more than my friends did. It is not bad but certainly not something I am going to look for again either.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

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Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
3.74 out of 5 based on 568 ratings.
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