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Cascade Vlad The Imp AlerCascade Vlad The Imp Aler

Brewed by:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
Oregon, United States

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.60%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
A blend of oak barrel-aged 23- and 25-degree Plato sour blonde quadrupel with sour bourbon barrel tripel and sour strong spiced blonde. Wild yeast was added during the barrel aging.

First Release: 9.5% ABV
Second Release (Sept 2010): 10.6% ABV
Third Release: 2011 - 10.91%

Added by hopdog on 12-09-2008

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Photo of cuddlesthecactus
4.91/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Had this at Cascade Brewing in Portland. I tasted strong bourbon and vanilla notes, but this beer was surprisingly bright at the same time. More effervescent than expected. Would bathe in this.

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Photo of Elendinn
4.84/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

On tap at the Barrel House -- served in a snifter.

A - pours a gorgeous burnt-orange with very little head and a smattering of thick lacing down the side of the glass.

S - farmhouse funk, some vanilla, apples, oranges, cherries, an amalgam of spices, and vinous white grapes reminiscent of riesling.

T - the flavors lead off with the obligatory, funky sourness of tart fruit, complimented by a perfectly-balanced amount of bourbon. Apples, oranges, white wine grapes, a bit of Belgian yeast, pumpkin, and some faint spice (nutmeg, cinnamon) are all present, as well. The alcohol is barely perceptable.

M - medium-bodied, pretty carbonated -- nothing out of the ordinary.

D - the best and most complex sour I've ever had. Russian River should be jealous.  What more can I say?

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Photo of joefuzz
4.82/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml poured into snifter sent in a trade from dyan.

Pours a brilliant golden yellow with a tiny white head. Smells amazingly of peaches and some slight oak. Taste is mind blowing , a great peach taste upfront with some green apple and wine oaky hints. Mouthfeel and carbonation are what I have come to expect from a great sour. Overall one of the best sours I have ever had the chance to try...thanks dyan.

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Photo of rye726
4.8/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Really happy to try a bottle of this. Cascade really does some fantastic stuff. Thanks G!

Pours an orangish cedar with a nice cream head. Nose is perfect. Sour and funky yeast, wood, vanilla, bourbon, wine, tart citrus fruits, sweet candy malts and more fresh fruits. Taste reminds me of a fladers bruin. Lots of malts and fruits with a well balanced sourness along with whiskey, vanilla, oak and wine. Full body is very well carbonated and has a dynamic, lasting finish. Really a superb beer.

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Photo of Damian
4.7/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Drank from a 750 ml/1 pt. 9.4 fl. oz. corked and caged bottle
2011 Project
Served in a tulip
Big thanks to Rich and Nancy for sending this our way.

The slightly hazed, deep crimson-amber liquid was topped by a one-finger tall, creamy and frothy, off-white crown that quickly dropped to a thin, resilient film. Unexpected for a "spiced blonde quad." Drippy, streaky lacing trickled along the glass.

The aroma was amazingly rich, robust and complex. Sweet and tart with notes of balsamic vinegar and sour cherries. Slightly spicy. Touch of brown sugar sweetness. There was a musty sour grape quality as well. Quite wine-like. Moderately boozy. Notes of brandy were apparent. As the beer sat, bourbon notes came forth.

Flavorwise, the beer was outstanding. Crisp and tart with loads of balsamic vinegar and red wine. Slightly funky. There was a sweet booziness that reminded me initially of brandy but later seemed to be more bourbon-like. Slightly spicy with hints of vanilla. Cherries came through on the back end. Some lemon notes appeared as well. Touch of lactic acid twang. The finish was crisp and dry with more red wine notes and oaky barrel character. Even at 10-plus percent ABV, this was immensely quaffable and refreshing.

On the palate, the liquid was super slick, rich and creamy. Smooth and supple. Fuller bodied for the style.

Cascade makes a number of amazing sour ales, but Vlad the Imp Aler just might be their best. Although this beer is called a "blonde quad" by the brewers and classified as an American wild ale on BA, it had many of the characteristics found in the finest Flemish oud bruins. This bottle had three years of age on it and drank like a dream. I am curious to see how it is fresh out of the gate.

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Photo of DCon
4.69/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Shared a 1 PT. 9.4 FL. OZ. bottle of this w/ CurtisMcArthur, Sharp, and other BA friends in Nashville, TN. Poured from the Yellow Labeled Bottle w/ a OAK AGED barrel on a wooden cart & the description below saying "SOUTHWEST STYLE SOUR ALE" into a 12oz Hefe Glass. Does not have a freshness date but is a 2009 VINTAGE.

Aroma- Sourness dominates the nose right away. Barnyard and sweet attributes come out as well. Not a young sour. Can tell this has been aged! Perfect.

Appearance- Pours a 1 finger head that has poor retention (not sure this is a problem or not). Has a dark golden colored body but clear. Leaves a few suds behind.

Flavor- Malt and a strong sweetness start this one off. Very complexed and finishes very barnyard like. Can tell there is oak involved in a fermentation process. No hop flavor due to the "gueuze" like finish.

Mouthfeel- Light-Medium Bodied, Medium Carbonation, Puckers, Mouth-filling, and has a goaty finish.

Overall Impression- For my first brew from Cascade, this one rocked my socks! Almost could be a gueuze with all of its goaty and barnyard attributes. Would HIGHLY recommend this for sour lovers and aging it. Cheers guys!

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Photo of bennyman12
4.68/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

2011 bottle.

Appearance is amazingly clear. Big bubbles that dissipate but still pop up somewhat.
Smell--I get grape skin and peaches. Potent.
Taste--so well balanced between the sour and sweet with more of that peach and grape skin and oak. Not overly pucker. Booze blends in well. Really sophisticated.
Mouthfeel is thick for the style--carb just lively enough.

Having brewed a slew of sours myself, I know how temperamental the lacto and pedio are around higher amounts of alcohol. There's a mind-numbing amount of bug-consciousness going on at cascade, and this is the purest evidence of their talent I've yet encountered. Cheers!

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Photo of Gobzilla
4.67/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured a golden orange with pale pineapple yellow highlights with a thin head and left a little lacing sticking to the glass. Upfront on the aroma i was able to detect some funkiness from the brett with a little corky character slight vinegar acidic citrusy notes and barrel oak notes. the taste was sweet and sour consisting of citrus, brett, oak, slight vinegar, and pineapple accents to add some fruit dimension. It didi seem to have underlying apple and pear flavor as well. The brew was medium in body with a good amount of carbonation which had a slight sweet but fruity, oaky, bretty funky, acidic, sour and slight dry finish. Drank amazing and was almost sucking the last drops from the bottle.

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Photo of mverity
4.63/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark orange with hints of amber and a slight coppery redness. Fluffy white head, sticky legs and very good lacing. Aroma is burnt orange peel, a clove/pine note and cardimum? Taste is tart orange peel, clove and a touch of cinnamon. Great medium body and highly carbonated. Another amazing beer from Cascade!

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Photo of ktrillionaire
4.62/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

I have had this beer a number of times as of late, and it has not failed to impress me each time. Thanks to various people for the share, and let's have a round of applause for Blaine for sharing it here at the Willard's sour mini-tasting.

A - It pours a golden-apricot hue and is capped with a respectably pillowy head of white froth; some lace ensues.

S - The nose immediately suggests notes of apple skin, lemon wood, and vanilla. Though pertly tart in a lactic and citric sense, the aroma also offers vaguely sweeter impressions of tropical fruit, maybe some pineapple, to balance it out.

T - Bourbon barrel notes of oaken vanilla fuse with impressions of lime, green oranges, fresh-cut grass and an intensifying citric bitter-sour finish. Very complex and intricately nuanced.

M - The feel is a bit too straightforward-beery for me; I'd like to see a softer carbonation and a lighter mouth feel, perhaps. Still it is not bad by any stretch.

O - I may enjoy this one the most out of all the Cascades.

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Photo of maximum12
4.61/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

It’s Fridge Clearing Week at the homestead! Yes, we are going to get to long-lost beers that for various reasons I haven’t gotten to (anticipated hate, anticipated love, fallen behind a moldy ham, etc.). This one comes via the much-beloved moose3285. 750ML bottle from the 2011 bottling split with my wife.

The cork digs its claws into glass neck, but after a prolonged struggle, I am victorious. The pop is ear-splitting. About 600ML poured out in anticipation of sludge, & those milliliters are clear 24 karat gold with a white, jittering head. Seriously. Sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies with fresh-poured milk: quite a loud popping. Smells just like the description: Belgian, sour, barrel, with tart green apple being dominant.

Vlad the Imp Aler is surprisingly restrained & complex. The wine barrels bring a lot of up-front flavor, bringing a vinous sharpness that complements the soft tartness that lurks behind: grapes, lemon, green apples, great layers without leaving my asshole as tight as a locked chastity belt. Mid-palate the barrel drops like an f-bomb, with oak enough to build a small fort against the side of the house: big, big wood. Bourbon comes through like a whiff of a good Dan Reed Network song. Belgian yeasts barely survive, but poke through on the finish like a weed sprouting through the barrel staves, along with spices that I can’t ID. Mouthfeel is like Sprite, spritzy & light. Drinkable as hell. I could have taken this myself, & I wouldn’t have even complained.

This is a nuanced, sophisticated take on the style. Right here is why Cascade might be my favorite purveyor of wild ales in the states, because they understand a sour is supposed to taste good, it’s not just an arms race to jack the pucker factor into the ionosphere. After having New Glarus’ Wild Peach a few nights ago, I might have had two of the better American wild ales: this is an elite beer, & no doubt about it. Fantastic.

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.58/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.
Vintage: 2009

A - Pours a glorious and gorgeous strong golden color with some mild copper hues and some nice yellow edges. There is a nice thin white head that forms with some stickiness and some nice dense bubbles. Extremely attractive beer.

S - Aroma of tart fruits. Some nice lemon as well as some apple. There is some nice spice notes to the nose as well. Some honey and slight caramel sweetness hidden between the sour notes. There is some nice dry oaky wood finishes as well.

T & M - Taste starts off with some nice Granny Smith apple sourness with some pear cider notes and some slight Champagne. There is some nice white grape and white wine notes mixed in with some mild vinegar. The sourness to this beer is quite delicious and not too overwhelming at all. Very well balanced slight honey and caramel sweetness with the sourness. There is some good spice notes that are quite refreshing. Good funk character at the beginning of the beer. The finish is dry and complex but also has some nice lasting tartness. Mouthfeel is medium and with nice complex flavors and a nice crisp and refreshing carbonation. Awesome brew.

O - Very delicious beer that I would love to have around more often. Very well crafted sour that isn't pretentious but has great flavors and a nice rich body.

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Photo of CooperEllis
4.56/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

750ml into wine glass. 2009 vintage. Thanks to Chris for this one.

This is routinely one of my favorite brews. Had it a bunch, always want more. Everything is good, but for me certainly better than the sum of the parts.

Dark amber pour, thin maple syrup with a narrow tracing of bubbles at the edges of my glass.

The aroma on this one is muddled a touch, fig, date, wine and citrus.

So good once it hits your lips. Robust sour, full flavored with a nice bite up front, plenty of dark fruit, lemon zest and pepper. Still, a very delicate flavor profile.

Mouthfeel is perfect. Everytime. Smooth, crisp, sour, carbed.

For me, a perfect combination. Don't know if there are other vintages, but the '09 has held up very well and carries a sour punch without any lingering off-flavors.


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Photo of MasterSki
4.56/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to sarcastro for supplying this to the recent tasting. I initially tried to trade for this exact same bottle, so it's strangely karmic that it showed up where I could try it. Served in a tasting snifter.

A - A finger of yellow-tinged foam that dissipates to a thin ring. Dark, murky, orange color, and tons of chunkies floating about. I heard this was filled straight from the barrel, but it's still not very attractive.

T - Lactic sourness, spicy bourbon, pepper, caramel malt, wood and charred barrel, tart apples, grape skins, under-ripe raspberries, stone fruits, and amazingly well-hidden alcohol.

T - The taste is a little less complex with more tannins and spice, and less balancing sweetness. Very acetic, with notes of apple cider vinegar. Pretty delicious.

M - Dry, medium body that is big enough for 9.5%. Tannic finish with a touch of stickiness. It integrates feel elements of all the base beers quite convincingly.

D - This is shockingly drinkable for the ABV - we plowed through this faster than any of the barleywines that we had beforehand. A fantastic experiment that should be a big hit when it's bottled in larger quantities.

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Photo of cosmicevan
4.55/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Note's from Captain Lawrence Rosso Batch 3 release / tasting:

Vlad the Imp Aler – pours a sour colored grape murky, very murky, no head, little carbonation and bubbly. Bring it to life with a glass swirl. Smell is sweet tart, but not in your face. Pretty well balanced, not over the top, sour in the right places. Mouth is smooth. This is a really solid brew across the board. Very solid mouthfeel with even and perfect carbonation. Solid start to finish

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Photo of Trailmix242
4.52/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I thoroughly enjoyed this beer. Nice amber color with a great aroma that hints at the joy to be had. Taste is of dark fruits and is quite sour. The wood aging is tasted in the finish though does not overpower the other flavors. A must try if you like sour beers. I also think the classification as a Belgian Strong Pale Ale is quite misleading.

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Photo of CaptainTripps
4.52/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml 2009 bottle poured into a duvel tulip.

A: Pours a very golden-hazy amber. Very much looks like an IPA at pour. Poured gorgeous amount of cream colored head. Left tons of lacing up and down the glass. Very good looking beer.

S: When you dip your nose into the glass some funkyness instantly hits your nose. Also get waves of aromas such as white wine, grapes, oak (major oakyness present), floral notes, and small amounts of orange peel. Some vanilla and small bourbon notes present.

T: Hard one to put a finger on due to its complexness. Sourness really dominates up front and then finishes clean and sweet with vanilla and bourbon aftertones. Some belgian yeast and spicyness are there with a white grape twist to it all. Very rich with some alcohol bite as well. The sweetness of the slight grape aftertaste really balances out the funkyness upfront. Flavors really work in harmony produce a damn fine beer.

M: Has medium carbonation that is long lasting to the very last drop. Not a "pucker-power" sour, but just right on the mouth feel. Beer is smooth with a slight oily feel.

D: A very good beer that isn't a every day sipper, but a beer for special times. A very smooth beer that needs to be appreciated and not abused. Once you get a bottle, savior it and enjoy.

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Photo of Floydster
4.52/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is a blend of Cascade's blonde and quadrupel that is then barrel aged with wild yeast, consumed 12/5/08, reviewed from notes, color was bright medium orange with several golden highlights, 1/2 inch fizzy white head that disappears quickly, no lacing or retention to note, smell contained grapefruit, citrus, barley, funky yeast, tarty brett, wood, green apple, and sour cherries, taste was very tart at first which I was not complaining about, malts come into effect and the beer gets sweeter after the first few sips, really like the citric acid and sweet fruit combination, funky lemons and orange peel in the finish, mouthfeel is faintly sour, sweet, and dry, body is on the medium side, high level of carbonation, taste sticks around for a good amount of time, could have drank several servings of this, refreshing, not overly sour or sweet, not heavy, just a nice tarty Belgian ale, first beer I tasted from this brewery but just had the four sours arrive in the mail a few days ago, now I cannot wait to open those, certainly recommended

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Photo of elliot23
4.5/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Barrel House.

A small head of off yellow foam. Beer pours a strong orange color. cloudy in color. The smell is bourbon and oak intermingling with tart berries and citrus. The taste is complex with spice, citrus, and apple cider. Very nice sipping beer. The mouthfeel is very warming. Low carbonation and a medium body are very welcomed here. The ABV is ridiculously high, but well hidden. Amazingly easier to put back.

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Photo of erikm25
4.5/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Color was a thickened bright, yet hazed, amber hue. A massive glowing ruby red with subtle cherry glazed highlights. Looked like a thick red wine. Definitely a surprise when sat in front of me. There was some minimal lacing that stuck tightly around the glass with nice retention. Great and vibrant looking beer.

S: The aromas were amazingly sharp and vivid. Very difficult to describe. They swirl into the nose with a distorting fragrance. Citrus fruits, cherries, raisins with hints of vanilla. Tart apples and sugary plum-ness.

T: This had an immediate and insanely complex and intense taste. My first thoughts were tartness but that does not do justice to everything going on in the taste. Sour black cherries with blistering orange citrus bite. Lots of apples with a slightly spicy finish. Lemon tang with creamy raspberry and velvety banana-peach flavors. Great barrage of tartness, sourness, and sweetness. Ends with a biting sharpness. Had no idea what the ABV was at the time of tasting but felt it had to be 8% or above.

M: Impressive carbonation and body. Has a nice stickiness around the mouth. Had this after dinner and it was perfect for sipping and enjoying.

D: Review notes from 12/31/08. I had no idea what to expect when I ordered. In all honesty, the name sounded cool so without asking any info I just went for it. I am still new when it comes to expanding my horizons and experimenting with new types of beer. However, the first word that came to my mind when I tried this was "innovation." Definitely unique and I am very glad I gave it try. Highly recommended.

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Photo of DovaliHops
4.5/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

2011 Project. Cork was probably one of the most difficult ones to remove...EVER. Pours a murky, golden color with a hint of amber. Small-medium, white head that takes a little time to go down. Good-looking brew. Scent is very inviting... green apples, bourbon, citrus fruit, barnyard funk, pepper, grass...damn, this beer is all over the place. Smells complex. Taste is just as complex! Initial sip is lightly tart with sour apple flavor and lemon peel. Sour lemon flavors with a balance of sweet bourbon. Lovely spiciness that I can't put my finger on...other than being delicious. A bit boozy, especially as it warms. Mouthfeel is a little cloying, but with a dry finish. Seems perfect with this offering. Drinkability is high...especially for such large ABV. Overall, like the other Cascade brews I've had, this one is very complex and delicious. The sweet booziness is definitely present, but the tart fruit, light acidity, and mellow funk make this to be a world-class beer. Have 1 more bottle, definitely going to buy more.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.49/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark golden orange color, mostly clear, with a white head. The aroma is sour, with faint toffee like traces and plenty of barrel. The taste is very complex, oaky, tart, sour, trace bourbon, tannins, ghost fruit. Finishes bittersweet and slightly dry. Overall, a world class sour.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.49/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From 12/12/10 notes. Had at a local tasting thanks to Thorpe429; thanks Mike, really wanted to try this one!

a - Pours a nice amber color with one inch of white head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of sour apples, funk, sour cherries and fruit, oak, vinegar, and light bourbon. Smells pretty amazing.

t - Tastes of sour apples, sour fruit, barnyard funk, vinegar, oak/wood, and bourbon. Again, very enjoyable.

m - Medium body and low carbonation, very smooth body.

d - I thought this was a great beer that smelled absolutely amazing. It had a nice combination of sour fruit and oak, which I thought worked really well together. Would love to get another bottle of this one.

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Photo of scottfrie
4.47/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into tulip. “2011 Project” on the label. 10.91%.

A: Pours a clear light iced-tea color with a very active couple fingers of off-white head that quickly fizzed away into a fuzzy and self-rejuvenating film. Wispy streaks of lace were left down the glass.
S: Musty notes of apple juice mixed with spicy oak and peppery spice. I get a hint of vinous wine and just a touch of buttery and caramely bourbon. Musty and lightly tart smelling.
T: Soft palate of flavors blend very well together with no one aspect standing out. I get a blend of apple cider, buttery oak, peppery spice, green apple, slight stone fruit, creamy yeast, a light earthy funk, and just a touch of caramely bourbon, oxidization, and brown sugar. Flavors are well integrated and smooth.
M: The alcohol is completely hidden and I couldn’t tell this from a beer with half the alcohol. The tartness is low as well, with just a subtle kick of clean sourness. Low acidity. The mouthfeel is very smooth and buttery from the oak. Medium-full body, touch of oxidization.
O: Masterfully crafted and perfectly integrated. Flavors are delicate, complex, and exceptionally smooth. I could sip this all day. Very well done.

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Photo of HopHead84
4.47/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks a ton to Ron for busting this bottle out when I visited the brewery. I'd read about this and never thought I'd get the chance to try it. My notes are a little fuzzy as this was the last beer at the end of a 3 hour tasting, but I believe this is a blend of 2 spiced quads, 2 old triples, and a spiced strong blonde. If that's completely inaccurate you have my permission to execute me.

The beer pours amber with a one inch beige head. Retention and lacing are both great.

The aroma is a complex thing. Notes of candied and brown sugar evident, as well as overripe apples, yeastiness, and sweet bready malt. I detect a faint spiciness as well as, orange peel, oak, and lactic notes. A nice tartness is present. I know that sounds like a crude conglomeration, but my description doesn't do the nose justice as the different aromas do combine nicely.

The flavor is tart, with lots of bready malt, some caramel, and sugar. There's a faint lactic sourness in the flavor, and those interesting overripe apples are back. I get less oak than the nose suggested, but it's still noticeable. The flavor strikes a nice balance between tart and sugary sweet. I notice notes of citrus and dried fruits. The finish is sweet with some acidity and a finishing, lingering tartness. Highly recommended.

2nd bottle opened by jshufelt at our Cascade tasting on 12/11/2009. Thanks Jonathan! The only thing I'd like to add to my previous review is that the beer is a good deal spicier than I remembered it being. Spices are strong in both aroma and flavor, but a bit more so in aroma.

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Cascade Vlad The Imp Aler from Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
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