The Vine
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

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From:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
 
Oregon, United States
Style:
Wild Ale
Ranked #305
ABV:
10.1%
Score:
94
Ranked #2,758
Avg:
4.21 | pDev: 9.26%
Ratings:
913
Status:
Active
Rated:
Sep 20, 2021
Added:
Feb 07, 2009
Wants:
  275
Gots:
  217
SCORE
94
Outstanding
The VineThe Vine
Notes: The Vine is a blend of sour wheat and blond ales aged in white wine barrels for up to 18 months with Gewurztraminer grapes.

ABV seems to vary, between 8.33-10.1%
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4.42 by Jsalz21 from New Jersey on Sep 20, 2021
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3.69/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
by BubbleBobble from New York

2012 vintage. Good pop despite the age. Pours a golden yellow, mild visible carbonation, no head formation. Nose is grape lees and must; light oak, light cardboard. Taste is slight apricot, white white, mildly sweet. A fair amount of musty and wet paper notes, but this is a product of the age of the beer, so hard to knock it as a result. Decent amount of spice notes as well; alcohol not pronounced, but some slight warming. Little to no carb, moderately thick mouthfeel. Would love to get a fresh vintage, but this held up surprising well over the years.

Aug 15, 2021
 
4.23 by golf4collet from West Virginia on Jun 12, 2021
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4.28/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
by kitch from Hong Kong

A 750ml corked and caged bottle, 2015 project. Poured into a 3 Fonteinen stemmed glass.

Appearance: A lightly hazy golden colour, with a thin white head that dissipated quickly, while leaving only some sparse lacing.

Aroma: Tart, oak, funk, vinous, white wine, grape, grape skin, with light citrusy lemon and mixed berry notes.

Taste: Sour, tart, vinous, white wine, lightly sweet, grape skin, oak, wood, lemon.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

Overall: Complex and balanced with good sweet and sour notes and strong vinous and oak presence.

Dec 29, 2020
 
3.77 by WCKDVBZ from South Carolina on Oct 14, 2020
 
4 by RiceOwls27 from Texas on Jul 15, 2020
 
4.25 by bigred89 from Maryland on Feb 23, 2020
 
4.24 by Duncian from Pennsylvania on Aug 15, 2019
 
4.24 by Ristaccia from Nebraska on Jul 31, 2019
 
3.75 by jschott75 from Illinois on Jul 07, 2019
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4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5
by mdfb79 from New York

2013 bottle at the brewery.

Jun 20, 2019
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4.12/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
by thehyperduck from Canada (ON)

750 mL corked and caged bottle received in a trade a few years ago - thanks, Farees! This is the '2012 Project' (8.85%), served slightly chilled. Reviewed from notes.

I was worried that this one might gush once the cork was popped, but it barely reacted at all. It has a hazy golden-orange colour, producing half a finger of loose, foamy white head that quickly degrades to a narrow collar of froth. The surface is otherwise bare, with little in the way of lace; looks a bit dull - maybe cellaring this was a mistake. The aroma is considerably more interesting, with leather (Brett) being the most noticeable presence; this is followed by oak tannin, grape must and a slight hint of vanilla. Not excessively complex, but it does have a pleasant funkiness to it.

Tart and funky, but with a reasonable amount of balance maintained between its disparate parts; leather and barnyard funk are noticeable right off the bat, as are notes of oak and white wine. Minor suggestions of underripe (tart) peach, lemon, acetic acidity and green apples, as well as a grainy, wheaty malt backbone. Funky, tart aftertaste with hints of sweet grape juice and mint persisting into the aftertaste. Medium-full in body, with moderate carbonation levels that impart a relatively prickly bite to its texture. A pleasure to sip, though it's of limited drinkability - and I suspect that the 8.85% is no longer an accurate measurement, based purely upon its inebriating effects.

Final Grade: 4.12, an A-. Cascade's the Vine is one hell of a durable sour: it's in shockingly good shape for something that is at least 6 or 7 years old, though I suspect it would've been better still had I not sat on it for so long. Oh well... you live, you learn, and I still thoroughly enjoyed my bottle anyhow - particularly because I haven't had the opportunity to try very many Brett beers over the last couple of years. Well worth a look if you can find it.

May 17, 2019
 
4.35 by Thorfinn960 from Ohio on May 16, 2019
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3.97/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
by macrosmatic from Florida

Thanks to eyebereej for sending this one! Reviewed from (very) long-standing notes. Marked as "2011 Project", enjoyed on 8/31/17. Poured from the 750mL bottle into an El Catador teku glass.

A: Mildly hazy light gold, until the last 1/8 bottle – then some yeast haze shows up. A few bubbles rise to the surface, but no real head to speak of, despite fairly active visible carbonation.

S: Lactic sourness and some barrel tannins mix with lemony citric acid, some white vinous character, and a touch of funk – musty basement and cheese.

T: A mix of lactic and mild acetic tartness. Sour grapes as well, with some definite grape skin/grape must tannins. Some oaky tannins add a bit of vanilla. Some apricot/stone fruit presence and some lemony citric acid on the tongue as well. Biscuit malty sweet, but this stays fairly mild. Some more lactic sour and dry tannins in the hang.

M: Average to just on the light side of body. Carbonation sensation on the low side, and alcohol presence seems about average - noticeable but not particularly warming.

O: Not a bad beer, and perhaps the time in the bottle has allowed some of the “standard” Cascade "lactic bomb" aspect to mellow somewhat. But the grapey vinous/grape must being added to the sour profile just isn’t a personal favorite to say the least. Nothing that I’d seek out again for sure. Scores given are an attempt to score to style, rather than pure personal preference; I'd estimate personal scores to be below 3.75/5.

Mar 21, 2019
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4.3/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
by WickedBeer from Alabama

2015 Project.

Pours a slightly hazy golden straw yellow. Small clear bubbles rise to the top, but it’s had some time to breathe on ice so the head and lace are essentially nonexistent.

The nose is consumed by musty white wine and Pinot grapes (or in this case, Gewürztraminer).. predominantly sweet, with just enough funk and oak on the back end to create a really nice profile.

Tart white grapes transform into an earthy, oak-forward sour with a sour wheat backbone. Great balance, and a low acidity leaves just enough warmth going down.

Soft, low carb contrast a sharp sourness right away. A dry mouthfeel from the tannins puts a bow on this nicely. Warm, puckering finish.

Sep 20, 2018
 
4.25 by brantleysmith from Texas on Aug 21, 2018
 
4.25 by FLBeerGuy from Florida on Jun 02, 2018
 
4.25 by a77cj7 from South Dakota on Apr 09, 2018
 
3.66 by Casey_L from Texas on Mar 21, 2018
 
4.06 by BalancingBrooms from Illinois on Mar 10, 2018
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3.72/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
by stevoj from Idaho

Draft at the Barrel House. 2015 vintage at 10.1% ABV. Pale, clear golden with big foamy head. Light bodied and light on the palate, but the grapes also lend a lot of flavor, think white grape juice on steroids. Aroma and flavor lean on the grapes, initial tartness dries out on the back end.

Feb 27, 2018
 
4.5 by jgunther71 from Illinois on Jan 26, 2018
 
4.5 by krome from Illinois on Jan 26, 2018
 
4.39 by rcjennings from Ohio on Jan 08, 2018
 
4.24 by Noles9585 from Washington on Dec 08, 2017
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4.25/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
by Ciocanelu from Romania

Slightly hazy orange color with almost no head. Aroma has unripe stonefruits, lemon but also a vanilla sweetness from the barrel aging. Taste is sour and acidic with unripe fruit notes. Quite refreshing yet intense on the flavors and easy to drink.

Nov 07, 2017
 
4.24 by bylerteck from Canada (ON) on Nov 04, 2017
 
4.24 by Brendanjames from New Jersey on Nov 03, 2017
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4.26/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
by mkh012 from Colorado

Pours fizzy orange with an equally fizzy head that's gone almost immediately.

The nose is white wine, sour grape, apple, pear, and funk.

This is the least sour of the Cascade beers I've had. The taste up front largely follows the nose. Green apple and white wine. Very balanced for 10% ABV. Oak and orange-y malts mid-palate. Drying on the finish. Mouthfeel is medium. Way more balanced than I expected.

8.5+/10

Nov 03, 2017
 
4.77 by StormAles from Canada (ON) on Oct 31, 2017
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4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4
by Sabtos from Ohio

Beautifully shimmering rare earth golden body with a thin, fuzzy collar.

I can smell Tripel-esque notes of spice and ester coming through with hints of Belgian candi and caramel. However, wheat, oak, nougat, and the botanics of an aromatic forest make their mark and bring this into a realm of its own.

Taste steps further away from the Tripel, with mature and sour grape, pear and funky, fruity oak.

This has become kind of watery and is lacking carbonation with a slick feel and dry chewy finish.

2010 vintage

Oct 18, 2017
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4.06/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25
by biboergosum from Canada (AB)

750ml caged and corked bottle (the 2015 Project), @10.1% ABV. I sure do like me some Gewurztraminer!

This beer pours (it was a gusher, but I caught it just in time!) a slightly hazy, medium golden yellow colour, with a teeming tower of puffy, very loosely foamy, and mainly fizzy off-white head, which leaves but a few specks of remote islet lace around the glass as it quite quickly abates.

It smells of tart lemon, green grape, and red apple fruitiness, gritty and grainy wheat malt, a mild earthy funkiness, gentle toasted oak notes, and a bit of wet hay/straw bitterness. The taste is bready and doughy pale malt, a lesser edgy wheatiness, white wine vinegar, sour apples and lemons, a thankfully restrained barnyard funk character, fruity green grapes on lees, a very tame wet barrel stave woodiness, and further understated earthy, hay-like, and musty bitters.

The carbonation is average in its palate-baiting frothiness, the body a solid medium weight, and sort of smooth, as the hovering tartness kind of has that expected downer effect here. It finishes off-dry, the malt and fruity essences (in all their inherent yin and yang) predominating.

Overall, this is a fairly tasty and engaging version of the style, with the white wine doing well to complement, rather than overwhelm the base sour ale. Not yet mentioned is the surprisingly AWOL north of 22-proof alcohol measure, which is a testament to the brewing prowess on display, I would imagine. Great stuff.

Sep 08, 2017
 
4.07 by briancathy from Virginia on May 29, 2017
 
4.25 by paulish from New York on May 10, 2017
 
4.29 by cd34 from Illinois on May 01, 2017
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3.87/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4
by Beginner2 from Illinois

Beware the wild yeast !
Looks give lots of foam and very quickly ... then all settles down into a sipping experience.
Smells are mostly the wine grapes, plus all that sour.
Tastes are both slightly sweet and then really sour. And while they come and go, sour wins.
Feel has very active carbonation, champagne-like; with an interesting tug between sweet and dry.
Overall, I brought it to a party of wine drinkers and got lots of turn-down faces, a few raised eye-brows and no converts. (But then, I am hardly a sour evangelist... being shy about those styles.)

Listed on the "1001 Beers To Have Before You Die", I think it probably should be there for making the difficult bridge between wine and beer. Glad I Had this one, but probably not again.

Apr 29, 2017
 
4.16 by BdM from Netherlands on Apr 14, 2017
 
4.08 by mattmarka1 from Minnesota on Mar 14, 2017
 
3.88 by Liberatiscioli from Pennsylvania on Mar 04, 2017
 
4.15 by StephenCollinsMarshall from California on Feb 19, 2017
The Vine from Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
Beer rating: 94 out of 100 with 913 ratings