Cascade The Vine | Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

Cascade The VineCascade The Vine
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92.2%
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4.21 w/ 883 ratings
Cascade The VineCascade The Vine
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
Oregon, United States
cascadebrewing.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.73%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"This Northwest Style Sour Ale is a blend of soured Triple, Blonde Quad and Golden ales that have been refermented with the fresh pressed juice of white wine grapes. The beer spent more than six months of lactic fermentation and aging in small oak barrels. 9.2% ABV" - Raccoon Lodge website

ABV seems to vary, between 8.33-9.73%

Added by msubulldog25 on 02-07-2009

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#1,091
Reviews:
207
Ratings:
883
Liked:
814
Avg:
4.21/5
pDev:
9.5%
Alströms:
0
 
 
Wants:
269
Gots:
221
Trade:
14
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Photo of acurtis
3.75/5  rDev -10.9%

Photo of kylehay2004
3.88/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4/5  rDev -5%

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3.93/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.3/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle pour sampled at mrbubbler's tasting.

Pours a slightly murky orange with an off-white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of grain, fruit, and some funky aromas. Taste is of grain, grapes, and funk with an acidic finish. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good wild ale with a nice grape flavor to it.

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3.75/5  rDev -10.9%

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4.25/5  rDev +1%

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.71/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

not as intense as I wanted it to be, nor as sour. pale cloudy yellow color, smallish white head without much retention. smells like artificial purple grape candy when I really sniff hard, but smells just like a sweeter sour when I don't try so hard. wheat malt, grape must, and lactic acid are all evident. I taste a lot of oak in this, sweet and earthy, and it pairs well with the sweetness of the grapes. however, the fruitiness takes a lot away from the sour properties, which really only come in as acidity on the finish. not a lot of tartness or funk or pep to this, and it feels a little dull as a result. it could stand more carbonation too, to lighten up the fruit. I think the concept is good and the flavors are good, if a little muted, but the overall product is in need of a refinement. it is a full step or two below the elite sours on the market, but still a quality brew. this bottle had a little age on it, so maybe it hasn't held up super well. will need to try fresh to compare.

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4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

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4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

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4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

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3.89/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4.21/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: The beer is slightly hazy golden yellow in color with some hues of orange and faint hints of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin off white head that quickly died down, leaving a small patch of bubbles in the center of the glass and a thin collar around the edge.
S: Moderate aromas of grapes are present in the nose - its feels like you are standing next to a wild grape vine in the late summer when the smell of ripened grapes is present in the air.
T: The taste starts off with flavors of sourness and oak and transitions into flavors of grapes that linger into the finish and lend a bit of sweetness. No alcohol is noticeable.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a low to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an interesting beer that tastes both sweet and sour. It's quite drinkable because the alcohol is well hidden from the taste.

Notes: 2012 vintage, 8.85% abv

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4.06/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

750ml caged and corked bottle (the 2015 Project), @10.1% ABV. I sure do like me some Gewurztraminer!

This beer pours (it was a gusher, but I caught it just in time!) a slightly hazy, medium golden yellow colour, with a teeming tower of puffy, very loosely foamy, and mainly fizzy off-white head, which leaves but a few specks of remote islet lace around the glass as it quite quickly abates.

It smells of tart lemon, green grape, and red apple fruitiness, gritty and grainy wheat malt, a mild earthy funkiness, gentle toasted oak notes, and a bit of wet hay/straw bitterness. The taste is bready and doughy pale malt, a lesser edgy wheatiness, white wine vinegar, sour apples and lemons, a thankfully restrained barnyard funk character, fruity green grapes on lees, a very tame wet barrel stave woodiness, and further understated earthy, hay-like, and musty bitters.

The carbonation is average in its palate-baiting frothiness, the body a solid medium weight, and sort of smooth, as the hovering tartness kind of has that expected downer effect here. It finishes off-dry, the malt and fruity essences (in all their inherent yin and yang) predominating.

Overall, this is a fairly tasty and engaging version of the style, with the white wine doing well to complement, rather than overwhelm the base sour ale. Not yet mentioned is the surprisingly AWOL north of 22-proof alcohol measure, which is a testament to the brewing prowess on display, I would imagine. Great stuff.

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3.58/5  rDev -15%

2013 project. 9.30% ABV. 750ml brown glass bottle with hood-and-wire (unbranded, gold) cap over a cork purchased directly from Cascade and served into a Lost Abbey teku in high altitude Castle Rock, CO. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the brewery.

Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

This is a mess to pour - the cork was impossible to remove by hand, so I tried pliers - which broke the cork in half. A churchkey removed the cork, but beer quickly surged out, spilling over my bar. Definitely seems overcarbonted especially when you consider it's been aging over a year at cellar temp.

HEAD: Pours a two finger wide off-white colour head - fizzy and violent as hell - which reduces inside 1 minute, though for about half of that it's only fizzing on one side....odd.

After completely disappearing, the head rekindles itself, fizzing back into life for 2 minutes more (still on only one side of the glass) before dying again - completely of its own volition. I've never seen anything like this.

No lacing sticks to the sides of the teku.

BODY: Body is a vibrant lively brilliant gold with blond and copper hues. The carbonation bubbles are magnificent in this colour of body. You could photograph this beer for a magazine cover; it looks incredible. I can't wait to try it.

That said, it does seem direly overcarbonated. But it's a unique appearance - both in terms of head and (admittedly less so) the body. It's definitely alive, but no yeast particulate is visible.

AROMA: Lovely. Gorgeous blond malts, impeccable white oak tones, white grapes with an ideal sweetness/dryness balance, golden malts, Belgian pale malts, clean crisp full evocative barley, a kiss of juicy fruity hop notes, and marvelous wild yeasts as well as bacterial notes - lactobacillus sure (albeit seemingly not as much as in Cascade Kriek), and ample sourness - about a 6-7/10. There are also some barrel sugars and grape skin notes. I also find a note redolent of pinesol, which works surprisingly well here.

This amazing aroma reminds me of the best Belgian blond sours I've encountered. Really incredible stuff; I'm dying for the first sip. It's mild in strength, but boy is it evocative. The dryness/sweetness balance seems ideal.

TASTE: Blond malts, golden malts, and Belgian pale malts comprise the easily influenced neutral foundation. White grapeskin enters in the early second act, bolstered by the building presence of lacto-induced sourness as the second act progresses. Wild yeasts and bacterial notes complement the lactobacillus well, evoking a truly alive, wild brew.

The moderate tartness of the grape coupled with the intrinsic grape flavours doesn't really fit into this flavour profile as well as I anticipated given the aromatics, but it doesn't feel out of place per se - perhaps just a bit too intense. In a beer so subtle, those notes are noticeably dominant, and while they don't break the cohesion of the beer, they do distract from the gestalt build as a whole.

Disappointingly, the sourness is a relatively mild 5-6/10 in terms of intensity. Cascade's other more sour beers (e.g. Cascade Kriek) offer more depth of flavour, but this beer has good flavour amplitude and duration.

The guiding oak tone throughout the beer is lovely, and bolsters its already impressive cohesion. The neutral barrel sugars found in the aroma are largely absent here, though I do think the beer's balance errs a bit too far on the sweet side. Dryer grapes might fix this minor issue.

What shocks is the absence of alcohol presence, which is damn impressive at 9.30%; how does Cascade produce these high-alcohol sours without seriously compromising balance?

Overall, it's a very likeable flavour profile with some excellent elements, but doesn't quite come together the way a world-class beer would.

TEXTURE: Crisp, overcarbonated, and smooth, with a perfect balance of dryness/wetness. Medium-bodied. Towards the back end, it's fairly smacky on the palate, but I'd love more of that along with more sourness. Thickness is apt for the flavour profile. Fairly acidic.

Good overall presence on the palate. This texture supports the flavour profile well and feels naturally complementary, but it's not a perfect marriage of texture to taste; it could be improved.

OVERALL: As it warms, I do pick up some neutral barrel sugars and some lambic-esque cereals/grains right on the finish, which aren't particularly welcome. This is a very drinkable enjoyable sour from Cascade, and the discerning drinker will be impressed by how well it hides its ABV. That said, Cascade brews world-class beers, but this isn't one of them. A good-but-not-great sour that isn't worth its high pricetag outside of its state of origin, The Vine is a beer I doubt I'll return to but that might be incredible with serious age on it. More solid work from one of the USA's best sour producers.

B

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3.98/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thanks to Chris & Sharon for sharing their Portland bounty!
Quick review from written notes.

Dull hazy orange with a thin ring of foam around the edges. Spotty lace when swirled, that sinks back into the beer without a trace.

Concord grape aroma, reminiscent of Welch's grape jelly or concord grape juice (the "communion wine" of my youth). Light acetic sharpness behind that.

Moderately tart, big concord grape flavor, vitamin C tablets, drying aftertaste. Trace acetic and lactic acidity. Medium bodied and spritzy carbonation. Fairly one-dimensional, continuing my overarching main gripe with Cascade's wild ales.

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3.77/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

2011 Project

Appearance: Pours golden verging on amber, fairly clear; initially, the head looks impressive but it fritters away rather quickly; no lacing, but a steady stream of bubbles rises from the center

Smell: Sweet white wine grape, apricot, tart apple and oak

Taste: Sweet white wine grape flavors, verging on fortified wine, with apricot and vanilla sugar developing; in the middle, the tart side appears, as does the oak; not much funk here and the sweeter flavors tend to overpower the sour ones

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low carbonation

Overall: I wasn't expecting this profile from a Cascade sour, frankly; it was somewhat like a French white wine drinker encountering German whites for the first time; it is interesting but not really what I am looking for in a sour

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4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured from the bottle into a tasting snifter.

The beer pours a light golden amber color with not much head at all. The smell is light with a tart sweetness to it. I am getting a wine note along with a light tartness. The taste is light and sour, but it's not a vinegar sourness. I am getting some wine along with a lemon juice like sourness. There is a slightly herbal funk in the finish. This is a nice sour and it hides the abv quite well.

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4/5  rDev -5%

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2/5  rDev -52.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Bottle: Poured cloudy muddy light brown color ale with a small bubbly head with no retention. Aroma of funky barnyard notes with some tart notes with some vile unrefined grainy notes. Taste is also quite a mess with loads of harsh grainy notes with some vile barnyard notes. Body is full with no carbonation. Either this bottle was off or I clearly don’t get this beer.

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3/5  rDev -28.7%

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4.25/5  rDev +1%

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Cascade The Vine from Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
Beer rating: 92.2% out of 100 with 883 ratings
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