Cascade The Vine | Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

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Brewed by:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
Oregon, United States
cascadebrewing.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.73%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"This Northwest Style Sour Ale is a blend of soured Triple, Blonde Quad and Golden ales that have been refermented with the fresh pressed juice of white wine grapes. The beer spent more than six months of lactic fermentation and aging in small oak barrels. 9.2% ABV" - Raccoon Lodge website

ABV seems to vary, between 8.33-9.73%

Added by msubulldog25 on 02-07-2009

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Photo of RedDiamond
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Comparing The Vine to other beer styles quickly proves challenging. But it is a treat to drink. It begins with a vigorous de-corking that unleashes an ale of near rabid carbonation. The beer is simple amber with a soft white head. The aroma suggests grapes, ginger, and grains of paradise. The taste is oaken and dry but not overly sour or acidic. It variously resembles a tart apple soda and a white wine, perhaps champagne.

Overall, a mellow yet complex arrangement that demands leisurely appreciation. Just be advised that the bottle will release plenty of suspended yeast as you draw low on it, and thick gobs of it may drop out at the bottom.

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Photo of rye726
4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours sandy brown with a silky tan head. Excellent lacing and retention.

Interesting noe has herbal spices, white wine grapes, oak, tart apples and subtle manure/horse blanket presence.

Taste is quite vinous with sour tropical fruits, white wine, wood, caramel malts and again just a bit of barnyard funk.

Crisp body is well carbonayed. Nice dry, acidic finish.

Another great sour from Cascade. Superb balance, drinks well.

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Photo of vacax
3.63/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle, corked and caged. $18 from The Wine Country. Took a bit of work to get the cork out before a huge pop at the end.

Pours very bubbly at first, then slowed down. Ended up with about two fingers of white head that died down into a film on top and a ring around the glass with around a centimeter thick ring of residual lacing all around. Liquid is an orange amber almost apple juice color.

It smells spiced, actually quite heavy on a clove note. Lactic tartness is definitely present, some light fruitiness there, grapes, but more like table fruit than wine. The flavor starts sweet and tart, then the sourness grows and grows throughout the midpalate and finish. A bit of funk pops up in there too. In the end, quite sour. That clove note hits in the middle, and the fruit sweetness is there throughout. Feel is light and spritzy, just right.

Some nice stuff here, but could use some more complexity beyond the sweet grapes, clove, and sour factor.

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Photo of nickd717
3.9/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from City Beer in SF.

A - Pours hazy golden in color with a fluffy white head.

S - Aroma is very nice, fairly tart and lactic with white white, oak, and fruity esters.

T - Lactic tartness, white grapes, oak, sour green apple, and citrus. Alcohol noticeable but not too much for the ABV.

M - Palate nice and fairly acidic with medium body and somewhat high carbonation.

D - Above average. This beer is pretty good overall, but not the best from Cascade. A bit expensive at $20+.

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Photo of Docer
4.33/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had a slightly aged bottle of this last night.... the website dumped its database, and wiped my review of this... so here it goes from memory.

- Looked like a slightly cloudy bright orange and golden IPA... large fluffy white head quickly down to a scatter of white lace maker.. and lacing all about.

- Fruity zingy lemon zest, tart sourness, grain... and a bi of funk. Some hay and earthiness in there.

- Wonderful complex flavor of grain, slight funk, tart and yet smooth... and the grapes... love the currants in the background. Fantastic from start to finish.... and boy how it changes all in just only 1 gulp.

- Slightly dry, but so zesty, the mouth waters....

- Super drinkable, and not a mind blowing sour bomb. Lacked any vinegar flavor at all which I like in a sour.... seriously a must try for any person wanting to try sours.. or even a sour master!

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Photo of DiabolikDUB
4/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from Bottle into Tulip glass.

Pours a murky, muddled medium orange with a big fluffy but broken white head that remains atop the glass as its drank. Aroma is tart with green apple and grapes with some slight funk and vanilla notes. The flavor is sweet upfront and then turns immediately tart with sour fruit and the sourness is fairly moderate and pleasant. Its light bodied and very crisp and effervescent. I really find this beer intriguing. Its very delicate and refined. Definitely one of the more moderate sours I've had from Cascade and is certainly another top notch beverage.

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Photo of CoolJosh
3.98/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Shared amongst friends from a 750mL bottle into a thin belgian tapered pint glass. This beer looks really nice. Very hazy amber brown with a soft white creamy head that laces well and retains throughout the duration of the glass. Very impressed by the first impression that this beer has created.

The smell is nice. A nice acetic sour apple with what smells like some spices added. A nice nose puckering lemon scent really adds a nice element. Very floral. A nice dry white grape comes out more as the beer warms. Interesting and I can't keep my nose out of the glass, partly because the smell is more on the lighter side and I really had to dig deep to pull these scents out of the beer.

The taste is pleasant but falls short. Very acetic and there is a nice cinnamon or some other spice that falls in the background. The floral scent appears in taste form and is well done. This beers is full in flavor but lacks complexity. The mouthfeel is a little bit too sharp and dry for liking which comes from the white grapes. I could, however, drink this one all night long.

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Photo of AKBelgianBeast
4.3/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to JohnGalt1 for sending me an incredible box, which contained this and much much more.

Pours a clear orange color with amber tints and a white head that reduces quickly leaving a broken ring around the surface. Ample carbonation can be seen in the depths of this one.

Nose is very very winelike. Lactic notes, oak and certainly noticeable grape presence. Some slight spice is detectable, but not prominent.

Wow! This is a very interesting beer to say the least. Quite complex. Opening notes are very crisp and fruit-like. Grapes are clear and present in the flavor, but not cloying or overbearing. An Oaky dryness starts early and only increases up to the finish. The lacto notes are not quite as balls out as many would like, but i think they compliment the overall state of this beer quite well. Very dry finish, leaves sweet white grape juice flavor lingers, but again, not cloying or too sweet in the least. There is indeed a touch of a spice profile that is most prominent here after the finish.

Mouthfeel is right where it oughta be with ample carbonation. It is the tiniest bit viscous for the style, but for this beer i find it appropriate. Very dry beer.

Drinkability is very strong, especially for the suprisingly high abv. A pretty refreshing beer, really. A wine lover would eat this up i would bet.

Overall an impressive beer from the Cascade series. Alot of people might slam this because it isn't the most sour palate thrashing beer around, but make no mistake, this is a very well crafted and delicate beer, and is certainly a tart brew. I would be willing to bet the brewer acheived almost exactly what they wanted to with this. There is great balance between tart dryness and white grape flavor. I would love to have another bottle of this to see how it does with a bit of age. An interesting beer, and one i would certainly drink again.

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Photo of chinabeergeek
3.07/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle w cork and cage. no date. tasted in mid-may 2009.

poured into tulip. cork was very tight and hard to pull out.

deep amber honey color. gem clear on first pours. foamy, 1-finger off-white head, slowly fades to thin layer, constantly replenished by the duvel tulip's laser etching. amazing continuous curtain of lace.

aroma: lots of fruity muscat grape aroma, with hint of... mint (!?!) amongst the woody oak, mild funk and grassy hay. that menthol/eucalyptus character really dominates though...

taste: similar to aroma, nicely tart, but a bit overwhelmed again by that weird menthol character, persisting even into the otherwise tart and semi-dry finish with fruit tones.

medium body, with acidic and astringent textures. mild to moderate carbonation gives very slight tingle and fluffy lift, but it only ends up accentuating that annoying menthol/eucalyptus note!

what the hell ?!?

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Photo of rhinos00
3.61/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Mychal for this one! Poured from a 750 mL bottle into my tulip glass.

A- Pours a dull amber and for the most part rather clear. Produced three fingers width of vibrant, white head. Reduces to a ring over consumption.

S- Getting a mixture of brett, oak, and medicinal type herbs. Not sure if this was the best combination of aromas. Even more so the aromas were pretty muted.

T- I had mixed feelings with this area. The beautiful part of this beer was that underlying the taste was this sour, acidic, tart, grape flavor that was fantastic. It definitely started to show more as the beer warmed and did become more prevalent in the finish of each sip. HOWEVER, at the forefront was a flavor that represented the aroma to a "T." If this part of the flavor could be removed, this would be one hell of a sour. The medicinal type flavors really distracted the taste buds and put a damper on the experience.

M- Light to medium bodied. Well carbonated and left the palate semi-dry.

D- As mentioned above, if it weren't for the herbal notes in the aroma and taste, this would be much more drinkable.

This was a really frustrating beer to drink. The potential was there. The white grape tartness and sourness was there, but just wasn't showcased. Instead it was overshadowed by the aroma and taste of medicinal type herbs.

EDIT: if you let this beer warm up to room temperature, the medicinal flavors really die down, allowing more of white grape tartness to come through.

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Photo of Sean9689
3.63/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours reddish in color with a white fizzy head.

S - Sour/tart fruity notes, acidic, some floral notes as well.

T - A nice fruity taste mixed with the white grapes pretty up front. Not as sour as I'd like, but not too bad, nonetheless.

M - Fizzy, medium, smooth finish. I really like the mouthfeel on this one, almost perfect.

D - I'm not as inclined to go back for another as compared to some of the Bullfrog and RR sours, but it's not like I'm going to turn down another glass.

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Photo of aerozeppl
4.08/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks dmeadows.

A: Slightly hazy golden color with a minimal amount of white head. Good looking beer but nothing to make it stand out.

S: The grapes are right up front. Really smells like a white wine with a touch of sourness thrown in. A little bit of apple came through as it warmed up.

T: Tons of light fruit. Not tart but quite a bit of that overipe fruit taste I normally associate with a saison. As it warmed up I got a little bit of tartness and the oak came out a bit more.

M: Very light body with prickly carbonation.

D: Very nice beer. Reminded me of a poor man's Cuvee de Castleton which is still impressive. No hint of the 9.2% ABV at all though all their beers hide the ABV quite well.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.38/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a three-finger thick, lightly tan colored head. The head leaves a nice layer of lace on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a pretty, red-stained, copper color that shows a bright copper-gold color when held up to the light. The aroma smells quite sweet, with honey notes, a floral white-grape fruitiness, plus other aromatic notes of kiwi, ripe honeydew melon and ripe green apple note. Much of the sweetness that I noticed at first actually is contributed by the huge, aromatic ripe fruit character. The ripe fruitiness is almost too much here.

As I expected from the aroma, this beer is quite dry with very little sweetness. The tartness is not overly aggressive here, in fact much of it I would guess comes from the wine grapes, though there is certainly a lactic component here. This has a tropical fruit like note here that is I find in white wines at times. The finish has a bit of astringency and tannins from oak character, there is also a touch of heat from the alcohol, but this actually hides the alcohol pretty well for its strength. I am curious what grapes were used here, with the oak it can remind me of chardonnay, but the ample fruitiness reminds me a bit more of Sauvignon Blanc or Gewurztraminer. Floral tropical fruit notes with quite a bit of ripe melon are noticeable and while not as apparent as in the nose, still manage to be noticeable despite the lack of accentuating sweetness. Spicy, astringent oak adds some structure and bite to the finish that adds balance to the up front tartness and expressive dry fruitiness.

This is a far departure from the Sang Royale I had the other day. It doesn't have nearly the finesse or balance that that one had, but it is still pretty tasty. An interesting beer, I can see this appealing quite a bit to some people, but I don't seem to be one of those people unfortunately.

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Photo of Floydster
4.62/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled at the brewery with Ron and Curtis, thanks again for the awesome hospitality guys, reviewed from notes, color is a medium orange with some amber tones, one inch very bubbly white head that does not last long, not much lacing, aroma has white grapes, sour green apples, oak, grassy accents, white pepper, lactobacillus, herbal accents, apricots, and lemon juice, flavor starts off with a dry grape flavor, sour and sweet fruits in the middle, finishes wine-like with a big oak finish, a little minty as it warms actually, dry, slightly sweet, and tart mouthfeel, thin to medium bodied, heavily carbonated, taste lingers with dryness, could drink the bottle for sure, no booze in the flavor which seems hard to believe for a beer over nine percent, smooth and full of unique fruit flavor, look forward to having again, grab a bottle when you can

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Photo of Overlord
2.86/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Thanks chewy! Now, fly casual!

Pours a hazy, sediment-y burnished amber/orange. Big off-white head.

Smells ... off. Strangely medicinal and herbally. Ugh. There is some muted funk/horse blanket to it, and there is a vinous quality to the smell.

If I focus real hard on the flavor, I get a fantastic, really great vinous, grape-y, acidic undertone. Actually reminds me a bit of consecration. Unfortunately, there is an awful, medicinal herbal taste that is a constant presence. It even lingers as an aftertaste. I'd think I had an off bottle, but other people have noted it as well.

Quite disappointing. There's a base of a really good beer, but something has definitely gone off kilter.

Nice mouthfeel.

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Photo of tendermorsel
4.5/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed from notes:

Poured into a DT tulip glass.

Great head and color. Light brown a bit cloudy. Wonderful aromas of grapes and sour lactic funk. This is areal palate buster. Vinous, lactic and sweet with every sip. White grape juice with an real emphasis on the tannins. Extremely drinkable. Quite thirst quenching.

Overall highly recommended. This beer stands up to any of the big highly touted grape based sour beers. I will definitely try to score some more of this one.

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Photo of JoeMayo
4.67/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a hazy amber/brown with a nice cap of foam.

S- Fresh, raw, white grapes. Slight hints of tartness and mild citrusy tones.

T- Outstanding! More tart than the nose lets on, but exceptionally well-balanced. the flavor profile is actually somewhat reminiscent of a saison with mild lemony/pepper tones in the backgground, but the foreground is a wonderful melding of fresh and sour grape flavors.

M- Fine carbonation and light-bodied.

D- This is one of the best lambics I've ever had. Well-balanced and smooth.

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Photo of ccrida
4/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Russian River "TION" snifter, carefully off the of the yeast, which I'm saving for a wild ale I'm brewing right now. Spritzy, hazy dark bronze with an large, off-white head with nice last that leaves heavy chunks of lace.

Smell is a bit on the sweeter side, honey and white grapes, also a graham cracker like spiciness to it.

Taste is nice a little sweet, nice tart sourness. Something about this reminds me of sweet mead, wildflower honey feel to it. There's a bit of aspirin like astringency as it warms, and the alcohol comes out a bit as well. Enjoyable for sure, but I bet this will really improve over the next year or two as the lacto chews through some of the residual sugars. Although I'm sure some wouldn't prefer that - I say try one now and save some for later! I should note I've had this a few times lately, this is just my first formal review, FWIW...

Mouthfeel is sticky and tannic, not a ton of carbonation, which makes the body seem a little heavy.

Drinkability is pretty good, a nice beer, but I'd like it a little lighter, drier and more sour. Which I think it will become in time, although this is probably their least sour beer young. Another winner from Cascade though, tasty and totally unique as usual.

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Photo of HopHead84
4.08/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours bright gold with a huge beautiful frothy head. The retention is excellent, and there's a surprising amount of lacing on the glass.

The aroma is of sugary grapes with some oak. I'm not sure about the grapes used in this, but it reminds me of Riesling or Muscat. There's a low level of lactic character, but a very low level of tartness. It's sugary and sweet. The flavor is better than the aroma suggested. The taste is sweet with notes of ripe white grape skins and a little musty barnyard. Again, Muscat comes to mind. There's a bit more tartness here than I expected from the aroma. Some oak notes and spices are present. The finish is dry and slightly tart with sugary grapes. No hops or alcohol are noticeable.

The beer is light bodied with good carbonation and a dry mouthfeel.

I was hoping this would be tarter and sourer. I have a few more bottles of this and I'm interested to see how it develops over time.

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Photo of IBUnit63
4.47/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

As Don Carlo told John Gotti (at least in the cheesy yet entertaining and moderately accurate HBO documentary), "I've heard good things." Let's see if the collar matches the cuff. 750, corked and caged into the Ommegang chalice after dropping down and giving me about 20 minutes. Solid pop of the cork.

Pours a silky honey/copper blend - sort of like my favorite herbal tea remedy with lemon, honey and a shot of bourbon. Head is tight bluish white - results in yeast wisps up top rather quickly. Carbonation is steadily represented and rises with decent speed.

I understand that there are muscat grapes in here but this is crazy. It rolls like a legit Moscato d'Asti. Same (at least close) carbonation with a fair amount of sweet yet light muscat fragrance. Husky malt is in the background with a hint of sweet booze. Maybe there are some bright noble Styrian Goldings hops to help dry it out. It has a little creamy orange-vanilla silk. Funk will take a while to warm up but this is quite crazy.

Ahhh, there's the brett. I am digging the muscat topping on this one along with the brett slight horsey funk and a little bit of fermented sourness. I want to see this one age and see how it all calms down and gets husky. This gets better by the minute as the carbonation and over-the-top Muscat sweetness subside and the traditional funk and sourness take up residence.

The carbonation still hits the lips on the sips for a while but it goes away as it travels through the palate. This is one of the lighter and sprightly sours you'll come across - the muscat musk really leaves an impression from front to back to meld sweetness with a mild brett funkiness and austere grains and noble yet piney/balsa wood hops. This isn't over-the-top outstanding but is calmly excellent.

This may not drink quickly but it drinks very nicely. The light muscat sweetness and Moscato D'Asti carbonation breaks up the funk enough to avoid that pucker that is satisfying yet on some level a little painful. I enjoy that this is not a traditional sour and the muscat is a great call. It gets better with warmth. Off the deep end and lovin' every minute of it.

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Photo of 1000Bottles
4.62/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Slightly coppered golden hue with a big velvetty light-tan head. Aroma is lightly tart, touch of grapes, bit of light caramel and a hint of oak. The flavor is very similar to a big Flanders Red, with a wonderful balance of malts and tarts, but with a grape presence replacing the cherries. Layers of flavors bouncing around and playing off each other include light caramel, grapes, biscuit, oak, tangerines and lemons. These are definitely some 'sour grapes' I am enjoying!

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Photo of goodbyeohio
4.72/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

unlabeled bottle, unknown vintage

spiced sour blonde ale blended and aged in oak with an ale containing white grapes. insane. very light in color, like a straight lambic. less sour and funky than dry and tart, white wine is a great comparison. the grape produces more tropical fruit notes.. starfruit and kiwi most noticeably. there is a hint some bitter citrus too, i believe some sort of citrus peel is among the 'spices', although there is no obvious dry spicing. the beer finishes smooth though with the eventual emergence of more traditional sour beer flavor over the winey dryness. the alcohol is unimaginable, strangely, or perhaps its lost to the complexity of flavors. i need another bottle of this all to myself in order to savor and wrap my mind around. one of the best beers ive had in some time, head and shoulders above cuvee de castleton.

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