Without You I'm Nothing
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Sour - Flanders Oud Bruin
3.23 | pDev: 17.96%
Evil Twin Brewing
New York, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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thepeter from England

3.08/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky, rusty amber color with a wisp of a head and little lacing. A film does sit on top for a while. Aroma light with vinegar, stone fruit, cherry pie, and damp rotting wood. Tastes much of the same but in a less "bad" way than the smell. Body and palate was pretty good, smooth silky and nicely LOW carbonated. Overall, not a great example of the style as there was not enough funk in some areas, too sweet in others and a bit of a mess in yet some more. I will say this though, it may be a decent introductory to someone who has never tried the style as it is mild with many of the different flavors that are usually found in the style.

Jan 25, 2012
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PeterIngemi from Massachusetts

3.7/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a duvel tulip

A- pours deep brown with a touch of Mahogany, pours a film of a slightly off white head that disapates quickly.

S- vinegar, a hint of oaky earthyness, maybe a touch of caramel and chocolate, rotten cherry.

T- subtle cholalte, hints of cherry rot, working with oak , not intensely sour, all the flavors meld very nicley as this beer warms, like chocolate, red wine notes, dash of vinegar and wood. Touch of nuttyness in with the wood notes.

M- light/medium body with very low carbonation,
Not bad for the style, but it could have used a bit more.

O- a solid brew, the flavor profile is very nice, I wish some of the malts were a bit richer, but overall it is a good brew, I wish the price was a little lower, but worth trying

Feb 20, 2012
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thagr81us from South Carolina

3.7/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served from bottle into a Mikkeller stemmed tulip. Poured a massively dark brown with a minimal off-white head. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, wood, vinegar, tart, and subtle fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, peat, dark fruit, tart, vinegar, and wood. It had a medium feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was a decent brew. I really have to be honest that I did not expect this one to have a peat characteristic in it. Usually I despise peat, but this one actually incorporates it fairly well with the tart/vinegar aspect going on. Really wish there were a little more sweetness going on in this one. Let this one warm up and the vinegar tone isn’t as abrasive, just a hint. Worth trying if you get the chance, but that’s about it.

Mar 30, 2012
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95XL from Pennsylvania

2.77/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

$16 for a 16.9 oz bottle into a generic tulip glass

A - dark chestnut brown, minimal carbination, no head, no lacing

S - even before the pour the vinegar smell is present but not
overwhelming. Otherwise unremarkable.

T - very mellow for a sour. Once the initial sourness subsides its very stout like.

M - Flat

If you love sours steer clear of this it's not worth the price.

Dec 10, 2011
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Travisnin from Idaho

2.75/5  rDev -14.9%

Sep 13, 2012
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TheWhiteDoll from Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Mar 09, 2013
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olradetbalder from Sweden

3/5  rDev -7.1%

Dec 02, 2014
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Jspriest from Pennsylvania

2.75/5  rDev -14.9%

Jan 13, 2012

3.86/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle. Flute glass. Enjoyed on dec´11. Bright brown copper. Slightly cloudy appearence. Beige quickly dissipated crown leaves a lasting collar. Fruity aroma with hints of green wood & white grape zest. Smooth acid upfront. Mildy toasted malt flavors with hues of cherries & red fruits. Light body, medium carbonation. Fruity finish & cask-wood notes. Well balanced flavors. Easy drinkability. Nice spot of the Style.

May 03, 2012
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Caterwaul from Ohio

3.75/5  rDev +16.1%

Dec 16, 2012
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DrBier from Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -7.1%

Dec 31, 2011
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cestlavie from New York

3.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Feb 04, 2013
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AlexChillton from Arizona

2.25/5  rDev -30.3%

Jan 21, 2014
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JustinMatthew from Pennsylvania

3.09/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a brown-ish color with no lingering head to Three Philosphers stemmed wear. Smell is pungently sour upon being poured, vinegar, red grapes, cherry and wood. I think the nose was my favorite part of this. The taste is obviously acidic, very sweet, cherries, red grapes, some oak tannins. the most off putting part is an almost ashtray like flavor, not a fan and very evident. Mouthfeel is like red wine like, minimal carbonation, almost flat like. I enjoy a lot of sours and I think one falls somewhere near the bottom in overall enjoyment.

Nov 13, 2012
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TGS from California

4.5/5  rDev +39.3%

Jan 22, 2012
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NickyDee21 from Pennsylvania

3.25/5  rDev +0.6%

Nov 27, 2012
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mokumies from Netherlands

3/5  rDev -7.1%

Jan 11, 2012
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jollyotter from Massachusetts

3.25/5  rDev +0.6%

May 03, 2012
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beernads from Florida

4/5  rDev +23.8%

May 31, 2013
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rodbeermunch from Nevada

3.14/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Consumed June 2017 round the pool.

Pours dark, looks like a porter. 1/4" brown head. The aroma shows it is not a porter (maybe an old world porter but I digress). Goes with some dark fruit, sourness, earthy dirt and forest feels. Seems like more of a belgo bdsa yeast possibly.

Taste just is another let down, another expensive Evil Twin beer that doesn't check enough boxes to think you didn't waste your money (again). Lots of vinegar and raisin feels. It clearly is neither competition for Tart of Darkness nor Oude Tart. Comes off as boozy. Its kind of a difficult drink. Should mention some nail polish remover going on here, this kind of reminded me of a few of the early Drake's barrel offerings (sour, if not intentionally so possibly). Caramel and black cherry aspect kind of compromised by the vinegar.

There is a bit of palate adjustment shock and awe, but once you get into the middle of the beer, you really start to hate yourself for buying another expensive low quality product from these bros.

Jul 31, 2020
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lacqueredmouse from Australia

3.2/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with @LaitueGonflable and @tobeerornottobe.

Pours a murky brown hue, with a filmy, acidic-looking head of mild white. Pretty thick body, especially for the style, and the carbonation almost remains static when tilted. Very fine, spotty lacing. Looks flat, thick and a little ominous.

Nose is oddly savoury. Speckled salt and pepper sit above a round balsamic acidity the tends towards sweetness. The sweeter body gives hints of cherries and geranium. Very odd, and a little bit unpleasant.

Taste is maybe a little better. Here there's a woody note, much like an aged balsamic vinegar, but without the biting, cutting tartness that follows. There's a hint of dark grains giving a touch of biscuity sweetness, and a true slightly lactic acidity on the back the sharpen it up. It's pretty odd, again, but it works slightly better here.

Overall, it doesn't really work. It has such weirdnesses to it that aren't integrated or explained with the other characters or as a whole. Probably one of my least favourite sours.

Sep 01, 2012
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BeerTruck from Portugal

3.25/5  rDev +0.6%

May 27, 2012
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laituegonflable from Australia

3.44/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a murky dark, but clear, red colour. Sudsy white head, not much to it at all. Not much lace. Nice colour but otherwise pretty meh.

Chocolatey and Belgian on the nose. Lots of dark fruit and pie/cake spice. Sultanas, dates, figs and nutmeg, cloves. Slight tart note, but all part and parcel of the fruity edge. Intriguing.

Sour, and burnt at times on the palate. Largely a wild yeast note, with characters of currants, black pepper, brown sugar and molasses as well. Clove is big, some carbon and mediciney notes. Weird, a little off-putting at times but there's enough there to like.

Fluid mouthfeel, but a bit thin and a little bite at the end. Don't love it.

Not for everyday drinking; has some nice elements but it doesn't quite have as much balance as others of the style I've had.

Feb 24, 2013
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metter98 from New York

3.55/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: The beer is very dark red in color. It poured with a thin head that quickly faded away, leaving only a ring of medium-sized bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are aromas of balsamic vinegar in the nose—if you were blindfolded you might mistake this for salad dressing.
T: Unlike the smell, no vinegar flavors are present in the taste, which has flavors of oak barrels, a light to moderate amount of sourness and some hints of sweetness.
M: It feels light-bodied and smooth on the palate with a low amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink and would probably pair well with an Insalata Caprese.

Jan 10, 2012
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theformula from Virginia

3/5  rDev -7.1%

Jan 19, 2012
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