Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock | Thomas Creek Brewery

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Thomas Creek Deep Water DopplebockThomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock

Brewed by:
Thomas Creek Brewery
South Carolina, United States

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
30 IBU

Added by aracauna on 10-26-2002

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Reviews: 103 | Ratings: 227
Photo of Hampton73
1.28/5  rDev -62.6%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

The beer looks nice.

The smell is sour. There must be something wrong. This batch is contaminated or something.

The taste is sour and just not drinkable. I will have to throw out the rest of the bottles. Not good.

Thomas Creek is OK beer. I don't know what went wrong with this.

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Photo of SilentSabre
1.55/5  rDev -54.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Wow..I am really sorry, but this is just awful....It looked okay, but the smell is just terrible!!! It literally smells like spoiled food, like bad cheese or milk. Some sort of bad dairy. The taste is bland and sour and that spoiled dairy smell just amplifies everything bad about this beer. This absolutely has to be a bad way is this supposed to smell and taste this way....this is simply offensive...

EDIT: Certain that no beer would ever be crafted to taste this way, I revisited this one again on 09 Oct. 06.
This one was undrinkable, as well. It had the same awful characteristics.

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Photo of Jredner
2/5  rDev -41.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Aroma is tart and sickly smelling like rotting fruits. Dark brown/mahogany in color with a quickly fading tan head. Fore is more rotting/overripe fruits..syrupy mandarin orange notes. Chocolate and caramel malts behind that. The finish is decidedly watery and off tasting.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.3/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a Samuel Smith pint glass in the wee hours of 12/18/11

Courtesy of PDXHops

Loose cap alert - doesn't seem to be a good seal on this one.

Mid-depth cola brown; nice and not too dark. One finger sandy brown head fades after a few minutes to a soapy layer that congregates in the center and along the inside of the glass. No lace to speak of.

Deep aromas of baked dark bread, grains, caramel, toffee and a hint of dusty yeast. Some strange earthy aromatic going on, too (this mostly occurs after swirling the glass; otherwise the aroma is mostly sweeter malt tones). Come to think of it, the strangeness might be oxidation.

My girlfriend took a sip before me; she said it tastes like hippopotamus piss and hint of coffee, aka hippopotamus piss on steroids. Let's see what's going on here. Hmm... coffee and paper. Dear oxidation: thank you. There are some toasted grain and bread notes, but they aren't at the fore like they should be.

The feel is medium-ish, but I get the impression it's thinner than it should be. Carbonation is moderate; maybe a touch on the low side. Hey, at least the carbonation is fine. Finishes dry and kind of gritty.

I had a sample of this on tap at Brewgrass and this bottle isn't what this beer is supposed to be. Still, if you have dicey capping procedures, I reckon I'll let the review stand for the time being. I liked the sample I had, so I intend to give this one another shake.

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Photo of corby112
2.37/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a deep dark brown color that's almost completely opaque with faint mahogany edges and a one finger off-white head that slowly fades into a lasting ring. Sporadic spots of lace left behind.

Smokey dark malt aroma with hints of burnt toast, dark chocolate, ash and coffee bean. Some peppery spice but kind of one dimensional and not characteristic of the style.

Medium bodied with a balance of sweet and smokey malts along with some zesty spice and bitter hops. Slightly acrid and dry with lots of deep roasted malt. Hints of burnt coffee bean, toast and dark chocolate along with some caramel, toffee and peppery spice. The ABV is well balanced but it's a bit harsh and one dimensional. Could use some balance with more sweetness. Again, doesn't really taste like a typical dopplebock.

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Photo of shivtim
2.44/5  rDev -28.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

I wanted to share something new that was "local," so I picked this up at Hop City in Atlanta and took it up to Indiana to share with friends.
Poured out into a glass. It's brown, slightly translucent, with a one-thumb khaki head laden with large bubbles. Fades very slowly.
Nose is incredibly light. Barely noticeable malts. Nothing offensive though.
Taste was slightly toasted malts. Again, very mild. Gentle alcohol twinge. Weak mouthfeel. I guess it's kinda drinkable, just boring.

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Photo of bierman2000
2.46/5  rDev -28.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

This beer is so thick and the alcohol is right in your throat at all times. It is only 7 % and is so chewy, sweet, molasses, etc that being a Doppelbock lover I can only drink 1 of these beers.
I won't go out on a limb but I think the South makes a totally different Doppelbock from the North.

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Photo of PhillyStyle
2.48/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Smoke on the Water, Greenville, SC. May 2011:

The beer appeared a darker color, perhaps it was brown, and a thin white head sat on tap that was not all that well retained. The aroma was weak, light roasted malts, not much else. The taste was not that impressive, again some roasted malts and a touch of wood. The beer had a light feel to it; high on the carbonation...I didn't even finish the whole pint. Overall, a pretty weak beer all the way around and one that I will not go out of my way to have again.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
2.58/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

First whiff when I opened the bottle was fruity and cider-like, while the second was smokier and maltier but still with a strong hard cider overtone. Pours an opaque chocolaty brown with a thick, frothy, not too persistent pale tan head. Flavor is rather wan, though - more like cider than beer, just a hint of malt and a touch of hops and smoke, and a little watery. Texture is thin and watery, like flat cola. I have had better, but this is OK.

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Photo of
2.61/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz. bottle in trade from bobbyc881 - Thanks!

Clear, dark mahogany color with lots of ruby highlights. Medium sized, light tan, rocky head. Minimal lacing or legs.

Malty aroma, brown sugar/toffee. Little bit of herbal notes. Overall, smells very sweet. Fruits were expected and seem to be missing.

Taste, um, is this the same beer I just smelled? Much more bitter than aroma, with significant citrus and roast notes. Lingering coffee in aftertaste. Not particulary pleasant all the way around.

Medium body with medium to low carbonation. Drying.

Overall, not appealing and not very true to style. I wouldn't return to this one.

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Photo of Loki
2.73/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This was my first experience with a doppelbock and I was disappointed by this beer. I had heard great things about the style and look forward to comparing this to many of the other doppelbocks I picked up in my recent road trip.

Beer poured a pale brown and due to festival tasting and 2.5oz shot glass servings I couldn?t fairly judge the head. The aroma was of malt and hops. The taste was malty but fairly hoppy which I wasn?t expecting and didn?t really enjoy. Very dry as well, I will have to revisit this after I?ve tried other, but I wasn?t impressed.

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Photo of veech
2.74/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I had this beer on tap at the Knoxville Brewer's Jam 2001 and really enjoyed it. I haven't had it since then, until now, and wow was it better on tap. This pours well but even the nose is soapy and kind of foul. The taste is very similar to the smell. Not much on the front end and a bitter unpleasant bite at the end. I will need to test it on tap again, but if this bottle is indicative of the beer, I must have been drunk 5 years ago.

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Photo of johnmichael712
2.75/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Appearance: Poured out of a 12 oz bottle into a pilsner glass. There is no freshness date on the bottle. This beer pours a cola colored brown with reddish-orange highlights. The small, one fingered head is a nice medium-brown color and is supplemented by a good amount of small carbonation bubbles rising from the bottom of the glass. The head also maintains complete surface coverage throughout my drinking experience, and it leaves a good amount of Belgian lace on the sides of the glass. Overall a good looking beer, but a bit thicker and creamier looking head would have been nice.

Smell: Very pleasant and rich nose, with strong aromas of rum soaked dark fruit (prunes, plums, and raisins) and a very intense roasted maltiness that smells of bittersweet chocolate, espresso beans, and a bit of dark caramel. There are also hints of roasted nuts, and this is overall a very nice nose, but it seems to fit a porter more than a doppelbock (this is a recurring theme in my review of this beer).

Taste: This beer begins beautifully, with a roasted malt flavor that is stout-like in proportions. Rich and intense flavors of dark roasted malts, bittersweet chocolate, fresh roasted coffee, and sweet caramel start this beer off, but unfortunately the beginning of this beer is the apex and the flavor goes downhill from there. Following the aforementioned flavors this beer becomes mildly acidic, and the hops come forth with a slightly bitter and very earthy and leafy flavor that scrubs the palate a little bit. The beer finishes with a bit more hop bitterness, a slight drying effect on the palate, and no perceptible alcohol warming effect.

Mouthfeel: This beer is definitely a bit thin and watery. A doppelbock should be thick and medium-full to full bodied, but this beer barely manages a medium-light body. Despite this flaw it is acceptably smooth and creamy, and the low carbonation suits the style well. Not an awful mouthfeel, but definitely not the best, either.

Drinkability: Not all that great. The slightly thin mouthfeel, the acidity, and the burnt, roasted off-flavors that definitely do not belong in a doppelbock make this beer almost difficult to drink.

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Photo of MSchae1017
2.8/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

This beer was tasted in a Pilsner Glass from a bottle.

This beer pours a dark chocolate brown with an off white head that is delightfully frothy. The head dissipates to a thin film that laces nicely down the glass. The beer smells mostly of semi-sweet dark chocolate and is quite nice. Unfotunately this beer seems to fall apart at the taste There is the same underlying chocolate taste but there is a very forward overy sweet almost bad candy like taste to the beer. This is very unenjoyable. The mouthfeel is not to bad with the thickness and carbonation. Overall I cannot say that I would grab this one again. Poor taste just leads to a poor overall experience drinking the beer.

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Photo of AlexJ
2.83/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Frugal MacDoogals in SC.

Medium chestnut brown in color, revealing ruby highlights when held to light. Forms a modest and short-lived head when poured and a few spots of lace that are gone by the time my glass is empty.

Aromas are more in tune with a brown ale or porter. Chocolatey malts, light caramel, and some nondescript hop aromas.

Flavors follow suit with roasty chocolate and slightly floral hops. Very muted flavor leaves a lot to be desired for a dopplebock. It doesn't taste bad, just not true to style, so it doesn't rate very high with me. It lacks any sort of oomph. I think they should wait until the 6% cap is lifted and take another stab at this.

Body is light to medium with a grainy and dry sort of texture. You really can't call this a dopplebock, more of a black lager or shwartzbier.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
2.86/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

The beer poured into the glass slightly hazy brown with an amber highlight and a tannish head which only rose slightly and fell quickly as it tried to lace the glass.

The aroma was lightly tart and slightly acidic in character. Some caramel was present and a light bit of chocolate, but most everything was masked by the tartness.

The flavor was malty with a chocolate and light coffee flavor. The acidic nature of the aroma had not affected the flavor except to dry it out. The chocolate and coffee of the flavor would make this a Porter and not a Dopplebock.

The finish was dry with a lasting light chocolate, coffee and very, very slight tartness into the aftertaste. The body was medium with a low carbonation. This would have made an acceptable Porter but was not much of a Dopplebock at all. The malt, if ever present, had decayed due to the acidity in the beer. Skip it.

12 ounce bottle. TCD-08 on label.

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Photo of thecheapies
2.86/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Pours out a deep maroon brown with a lovely patch of dimpled khaki foam.

Slightly oxidized maltinesd with brown bread kilning, sourdough crusts, Scotch ale meatiness, and a depth of sweetness reminiscent of raisin.

Failed. Overly oxidized and cardboard-like. Malts tried to stay intact, with rickety foundation. Chewed over by apparent time. Dark fruits almost gone. Tinny flavor and aged hop rot preside.


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Photo of ksimons
2.88/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifer, is midnight black with some head that quickly disappears. Smells malty and slightly bitter

Taste is thin but there are flavors of coffee and malts with a very dry finish. Very easy to drink, but much too thin for this style of beer.

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Photo of Buebie
2.89/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

I hope this is the right beer, mine has a different lable and is called deep water dopplebock.

Thanks to pwoods for this brew.

Poured from a 12 oz brown bottle with no freshness date, into a snifter.
Color is black, with some glowing red when held to light.
1 finger fizzy off white head. Quickly fizzles away into a thin layer of retention. Mild thin lace lines the glass.

Aroma is very grainy, with a faint sweetness. Salty buttered popcorn, doughy bread, burnt caramel.

The mouthfeel is predominatly carbonated and thin. There is a dominating sourness to the brew, almost cherry like.
Roasted malts, a tad cola like in fizzy flavors.

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Photo of torchednoodle
2.93/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Thanks to pwoods for this in a recent trade.

Pours great, deep brown. Had a nice little white trail on the head as I poured, almost looked like I was pouring steamed milk onto a cappucino.

Smells sweet, with roasted malts. Taste like roasted malts too, but there's some sourness that really feels out of place. Well carbonated, but maybe only slightly too much so. Tastes better as the beer warms up (or my palate deadens further) but still not great.

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Photo of nhindian
2.95/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into a Southern Tier goblet. Bottle generously provided as an extra by mikesgroove, thanks Mike!

A - Pours nearly the darkest shade of brown you can get before it starts creeping up on black. About 2-fingers worth of light tan head with decent retention. Lacing covers the majority of the glass with thin, stringy foam.

S - All malts in the nose. Slight roast gives a nice coffee smell, as well as a bit of chocolate. The interesting notes are more subdued, like a bit of smoke and the dark fruits.

T - The taste is a noticeable downgrade from the nose. While the aroma promises a balanced, somewhat complex beer, the taste reduces that premonition to a shred of its former glory. It starts promisingly enough, with a nice burst of dark fruits in plums and figs, followed with a smoky roast. This is short-lived, however, and it's all downhill from there. The mid-palate and finish is desperately bare of much substance; rather it succumbs to residual sweetness from the malts and some watery carbonation feeling.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately light-bodied with high carbonation. It's curse is it's thin, watery texture it takes on shortly after the flavors fade, which is much too soon. This leads to a very disappointing lasting impression.

D/O - Drinkability is pretty low. I hate to say this, because the first moments of this beer are highly enjoyable, but the sudden drop off really hurts it. If it could sustain the momentum that the initial taste delivers, this would be a nice doppelbock for sure, but the way I view it now is as something that could have been.

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Photo of rajendra82
2.95/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A Dopplebock brewed in sub 6% South Carolina seems like a very novel concept to me, and when I saw this new arrival on the shelves in Georgia, I had to snag a six pack to see how close they could get.

The beer poured out dark brown, bordering on black, and had a really small head and very little carbonation. The lacing was sparse and thin. The smell was not malty and floral like a Dopplebock, but more like a chocolaty roasty Porter, or a Belgian Dubbel.

The taste again confirmed the lack of malt in this beer. Roasty, chocolaty, grainy, soured, and a little burnt in the taste profile, this was more or less like a Schwartzbier to me. The flavors were not bad, but were just no match for the real thing. There was no explosion of fruity notes and grassy hop bitterness here at all. All I could detect was a steady and simple mix of the more basic flavors.

The thin body and the lack of strength made this a drinkable beer. Judged on its own merit, it is not half bad. But slapping a label proclaiming the contents to be a well known style does not make it so. And just for that atrocity, a few points were shaved off the rating.

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Photo of Brent
3/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A bit light for the style. Chocolate malt presents up-front, and the beer then thins out a bit too much. Some mild astringency that seemed out of place for the style. On the positive side, the beer was very smooth and the alchohol not at all prominent. Not on par with the traditional German doppels, and at best an average example of a more restrained American take on the style.

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Photo of Likeburning
3.03/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Also called the "Deep Water Dopplebock" on my label. Poured a deep brown, until held up to light and the redness really comes out. After this, the experience is a little bland The aroma is almost as deep as the color, but the intrigue seems to end there. Mouthfeel is quite decent almost reminiscent of a light porter, but the flavor is a little bland, and the alcohol definitely makes an appearance. Not bad, but not the best. I expected more from the guys that make a delicious vanilla cream ale.

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Photo of masstransplant
3.03/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a very dark copper. Thin head that's gone almost immediately. Smells of toasted malt and light chocolate. A bit too highly carbonated...this gets in the way of getting a good taste right up front. The taste is of heavily roasted malt but the finish is watery. Nothing special.

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